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Mary Sue Characters: Is Rey TOO Strong with the Force? – Troped!


may the force be with you okay maybe not

may the force be with you okay maybe not that much force that’s how the force

that much force that’s how the force

that much force that’s how the force works welcome to watchmojo.com or great

works welcome to watchmojo.com or great

works welcome to watchmojo.com or great content in this episode we’re taking a

content in this episode we’re taking a

content in this episode we’re taking a look at Mary Sue’s and whether or not

look at Mary Sue’s and whether or not

look at Mary Sue’s and whether or not the term can be used to describe ray in

the term can be used to describe ray in

the term can be used to describe ray in the force awakens a Mary Sue is a

the force awakens a Mary Sue is a

the force awakens a Mary Sue is a character is too good at stuff well kind

character is too good at stuff well kind

character is too good at stuff well kind of this trope is kind of tough to pin

of this trope is kind of tough to pin

of this trope is kind of tough to pin down and can mean different things

down and can mean different things

down and can mean different things depending on who you ask

depending on who you ask

depending on who you ask so to unpack this ambiguous trope got to

so to unpack this ambiguous trope got to

so to unpack this ambiguous trope got to go back to when the term was coined in

go back to when the term was coined in

go back to when the term was coined in the 70s specifically 1973 the Year Paula

the 70s specifically 1973 the Year Paula

the 70s specifically 1973 the Year Paula Smith wrote and published the Trekkies

Smith wrote and published the Trekkies

Smith wrote and published the Trekkies tale a biting parody of the overly and

tale a biting parody of the overly and

tale a biting parody of the overly and inexplicably powerful likable all-around

inexplicably powerful likable all-around

inexplicably powerful likable all-around awesome author avatars that were

awesome author avatars that were

awesome author avatars that were commonplace in Star Trek fan fiction at

commonplace in Star Trek fan fiction at

commonplace in Star Trek fan fiction at the time the story which was published

the time the story which was published

the time the story which was published in the magazine menagerie follows the

in the magazine menagerie follows the

in the magazine menagerie follows the spectacular Adventures of lieutenant

spectacular Adventures of lieutenant

spectacular Adventures of lieutenant Mary Sue 15 year old Vulcan Oh

Mary Sue 15 year old Vulcan Oh

Mary Sue 15 year old Vulcan Oh lieutenant I love you madly will you

lieutenant I love you madly will you

lieutenant I love you madly will you come to bed with me captain I’m not that

come to bed with me captain I’m not that

come to bed with me captain I’m not that kind of girl you’re right and I respect

kind of girl you’re right and I respect

kind of girl you’re right and I respect you for it

you for it

you for it here take over the ship for a minute

here take over the ship for a minute

here take over the ship for a minute while I go get some coffee for us ever

while I go get some coffee for us ever

while I go get some coffee for us ever since Smith’s story was published and

since Smith’s story was published and

since Smith’s story was published and circulated in the Star Trek fan fics

circulated in the Star Trek fan fics

circulated in the Star Trek fan fics community the term has been used to

community the term has been used to

community the term has been used to describe characters outside of fan

describe characters outside of fan

describe characters outside of fan fiction specifically characters who much

fiction specifically characters who much

fiction specifically characters who much like lieutenant mary sue are innately

like lieutenant mary sue are innately

like lieutenant mary sue are innately good at things for the sake of narrative

good at things for the sake of narrative

good at things for the sake of narrative convenience and whose flaws are always

convenience and whose flaws are always

convenience and whose flaws are always in theory in this context Mary Sue can

in theory in this context Mary Sue can

in theory in this context Mary Sue can apply to countless heroines in romance

apply to countless heroines in romance

apply to countless heroines in romance fiction from Bella Swan the plain yet

fiction from Bella Swan the plain yet

fiction from Bella Swan the plain yet beautiful bland but adored protagonist

beautiful bland but adored protagonist

beautiful bland but adored protagonist of The Twilight Saga to Anastasia Steele

of The Twilight Saga to Anastasia Steele

of The Twilight Saga to Anastasia Steele from Fifty Shades of Grey a book that

from Fifty Shades of Grey a book that

from Fifty Shades of Grey a book that was spawned from steamy Twilight fan

was spawned from steamy Twilight fan

was spawned from steamy Twilight fan fiction but what about Ray is she really

fiction but what about Ray is she really

fiction but what about Ray is she really a Mary Sue well to fully answer that

a Mary Sue well to fully answer that

a Mary Sue well to fully answer that let’s start by taking a look at some of

let’s start by taking a look at some of

let’s start by taking a look at some of the things that people cite as being

the things that people cite as being

the things that people cite as being proof of her

proof of her

proof of her Souness Carano by the end of the movie

Souness Carano by the end of the movie

Souness Carano by the end of the movie the audience knows that Ray can speak

the audience knows that Ray can speak

the audience knows that Ray can speak many languages well I’m not a club pilot

many languages well I’m not a club pilot

many languages well I’m not a club pilot and repair a ship and use the force

and repair a ship and use the force

and repair a ship and use the force despite the fact that she has zero Jedi

despite the fact that she has zero Jedi

despite the fact that she has zero Jedi training you’ll remove these restraints

training you’ll remove these restraints

training you’ll remove these restraints and leave this cell with the door open

and leave this cell with the door open

and leave this cell with the door open but all these things are relative

but all these things are relative

but all these things are relative common among our heroes in a galaxy far

common among our heroes in a galaxy far

common among our heroes in a galaxy far far away who can also understand

far away who can also understand

far away who can also understand different languages pilot and repair

different languages pilot and repair

different languages pilot and repair ships and use the force despite the fact

ships and use the force despite the fact

ships and use the force despite the fact that they’ve had practically no Jedi

that they’ve had practically no Jedi

that they’ve had practically no Jedi training it’s easy to categorize a

training it’s easy to categorize a

training it’s easy to categorize a character as a marry suit when they can

character as a marry suit when they can

character as a marry suit when they can move things with their mind but at the

move things with their mind but at the

move things with their mind but at the end of the day that’s just a reality of

end of the day that’s just a reality of

end of the day that’s just a reality of this story world having the force makes

this story world having the force makes

this story world having the force makes characters really good at stuff that’s

characters really good at stuff that’s

characters really good at stuff that’s just the nature of the force but on the

just the nature of the force but on the

just the nature of the force but on the other hand rey is really good with the

other hand rey is really good with the

other hand rey is really good with the force like really really good that’ll

force like really really good that’ll

force like really really good that’ll probably be addressed in a later

probably be addressed in a later

probably be addressed in a later installment of the saga but whether or

installment of the saga but whether or

installment of the saga but whether or not you’re willing to give Disney the

not you’re willing to give Disney the

not you’re willing to give Disney the benefit of the doubt is totally up to

benefit of the doubt is totally up to

benefit of the doubt is totally up to you maybe you don’t like race maybe you

you maybe you don’t like race maybe you

you maybe you don’t like race maybe you think she’s too good with the force too

think she’s too good with the force too

think she’s too good with the force too quickly but part of the reason this

quickly but part of the reason this

quickly but part of the reason this tropes definition is so hard to pin down

tropes definition is so hard to pin down

tropes definition is so hard to pin down nowadays is because people use it to

nowadays is because people use it to

nowadays is because people use it to describe characters they simply don’t

describe characters they simply don’t

describe characters they simply don’t like can you really call Rey a MarySue

like can you really call Rey a MarySue

like can you really call Rey a MarySue you already know the truth well that

you already know the truth well that

you already know the truth well that depends on whether or not you consider

depends on whether or not you consider

depends on whether or not you consider the force awaken a multi-million dollar

the force awaken a multi-million dollar

the force awaken a multi-million dollar budget fanfic which now that I think of

budget fanfic which now that I think of

budget fanfic which now that I think of it is a topic for a whole other video

it is a topic for a whole other video

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