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the 3 R’s some of you have heard this

the 3 R’s some of you have heard this phrase before reading writing arithmetic

phrase before reading writing arithmetic

phrase before reading writing arithmetic that’s what people used to say Wikipedia

that’s what people used to say Wikipedia

that’s what people used to say Wikipedia tells me that that started in 1800 that

tells me that that started in 1800 that

tells me that that started in 1800 that phrase and hopefully some of you out

phrase and hopefully some of you out

phrase and hopefully some of you out there are saying wait a minute

there are saying wait a minute

there are saying wait a minute writing doesn’t start with an R rythmic

writing doesn’t start with an R rythmic

writing doesn’t start with an R rythmic do arithmetic doesn’t start with an hour

do arithmetic doesn’t start with an hour

do arithmetic doesn’t start with an hour and you’re right it was about fie gnomes

and you’re right it was about fie gnomes

and you’re right it was about fie gnomes and sounds back then then some of my

and sounds back then then some of my

and sounds back then then some of my tree-hugging sustainability people that

tree-hugging sustainability people that

tree-hugging sustainability people that I know my friends they decided to coin

I know my friends they decided to coin

I know my friends they decided to coin the phrase reduce reuse and recycle

the phrase reduce reuse and recycle

the phrase reduce reuse and recycle there we go

there we go

there we go there’s some tree huggers don’t don’t

there’s some tree huggers don’t don’t

there’s some tree huggers don’t don’t embarrass yourselves now in the audience

embarrass yourselves now in the audience

embarrass yourselves now in the audience today we’re going to talk a little bit

today we’re going to talk a little bit

today we’re going to talk a little bit more about risk research and reward

more about risk research and reward

more about risk research and reward maybe I’ll be able to update the

maybe I’ll be able to update the

maybe I’ll be able to update the Wikipedia page after today and we’re

Wikipedia page after today and we’re

Wikipedia page after today and we’re also going to talk about energy because

also going to talk about energy because

also going to talk about energy because I direct an energy Research Center at

I direct an energy Research Center at

I direct an energy Research Center at North Carolina A&T just a little bit

North Carolina A&T just a little bit

North Carolina A&T just a little bit down the road from here so energy is

down the road from here so energy is

down the road from here so energy is something we all need I’ve been a serial

something we all need I’ve been a serial

something we all need I’ve been a serial researcher or serial entrepreneur all of

researcher or serial entrepreneur all of

researcher or serial entrepreneur all of my career and that’s led me to take lots

my career and that’s led me to take lots

my career and that’s led me to take lots of risk take do lots and lots of

of risk take do lots and lots of

of risk take do lots and lots of research and always reach for that

research and always reach for that

research and always reach for that reward and I love taking risk it

reward and I love taking risk it

reward and I love taking risk it energizes me hopefully you understand

energizes me hopefully you understand

energizes me hopefully you understand it’s a small joke energy small joke it’s

it’s a small joke energy small joke it’s

it’s a small joke energy small joke it’s sad I had to say something like that but

sad I had to say something like that but

sad I had to say something like that but but I remember the very first time I

but I remember the very first time I

but I remember the very first time I took a big risk it was when I left

took a big risk it was when I left

took a big risk it was when I left Purdue University I had a guaranteed PhD

Purdue University I had a guaranteed PhD

Purdue University I had a guaranteed PhD scholarship offered to me and I decided

scholarship offered to me and I decided

scholarship offered to me and I decided to go to MIT that was what I thought was

to go to MIT that was what I thought was

to go to MIT that was what I thought was the my ultimate vision for graduate

the my ultimate vision for graduate

the my ultimate vision for graduate research opportunity so I left in

research opportunity so I left in

research opportunity so I left in January in the middle of the year with

January in the middle of the year with

January in the middle of the year with absolutely no funding

absolutely no funding

absolutely no funding in my pocket and I went to MIT I spent a

in my pocket and I went to MIT I spent a

in my pocket and I went to MIT I spent a few days I ran around campus I

few days I ran around campus I

few days I ran around campus I introduced myself to people I landed a

introduced myself to people I landed a

introduced myself to people I landed a research opportunity on the third day so

research opportunity on the third day so

research opportunity on the third day so this gave me my reward I was now on my

this gave me my reward I was now on my

this gave me my reward I was now on my path to an MIT PhD and I even did a

path to an MIT PhD and I even did a

path to an MIT PhD and I even did a little jig that night I remember dancing

little jig that night I remember dancing

little jig that night I remember dancing and I can’t sing very well but I

and I can’t sing very well but I

and I can’t sing very well but I but I sang the Mickey Mouse song MIT PhD

but I sang the Mickey Mouse song MIT PhD

but I sang the Mickey Mouse song MIT PhD mo ne Y so this is what I’ve been doing

mo ne Y so this is what I’ve been doing

mo ne Y so this is what I’ve been doing ever since my energy Research Center is

ever since my energy Research Center is

ever since my energy Research Center is working on energy research trying to

working on energy research trying to

working on energy research trying to solve energy problems I’m doing this

solve energy problems I’m doing this

solve energy problems I’m doing this along with my collaborators at the

along with my collaborators at the

along with my collaborators at the University and across the globe and

University and across the globe and

University and across the globe and we’re trying to address the risks and

we’re trying to address the risks and

we’re trying to address the risks and there really are real risks because as

there really are real risks because as

there really are real risks because as you generate electricity

you generate electricity

you generate electricity you also generate waste as you generate

you also generate waste as you generate

you also generate waste as you generate food you generate waste so our Center is

food you generate waste so our Center is

food you generate waste so our Center is trying to address those things we need

trying to address those things we need

trying to address those things we need the energy we need the earth and our

the energy we need the earth and our

the energy we need the earth and our centers are trying to figure out how to

centers are trying to figure out how to

centers are trying to figure out how to have both it’s one and the other not one

have both it’s one and the other not one

have both it’s one and the other not one or the other so let’s talk a little bit

or the other so let’s talk a little bit

or the other so let’s talk a little bit about how we got to where we are today

about how we got to where we are today

about how we got to where we are today we started with an electric grid

we started with an electric grid

we started with an electric grid not much of a grid mind you a battery

not much of a grid mind you a battery

not much of a grid mind you a battery and a light bulb back in 1870 and then

and a light bulb back in 1870 and then

and a light bulb back in 1870 and then 100 years later let’s say 1970 we’re in

100 years later let’s say 1970 we’re in

100 years later let’s say 1970 we’re in the middle of a centralized energy power

the middle of a centralized energy power

the middle of a centralized energy power system that you see here we’re

system that you see here we’re

system that you see here we’re generating huge amounts of electricity

generating huge amounts of electricity

generating huge amounts of electricity from hydroelectric power from coal from

from hydroelectric power from coal from

from hydroelectric power from coal from from natural gas and from nuclear and

from natural gas and from nuclear and

from natural gas and from nuclear and that centralized energy started to be

that centralized energy started to be

that centralized energy started to be looked at by other researchers and they

looked at by other researchers and they

looked at by other researchers and they started to say hey wait a minute we’re

started to say hey wait a minute we’re

started to say hey wait a minute we’re polluting our earth and our planets at

polluting our earth and our planets at

polluting our earth and our planets at risk we’re seeing lots of carbon

risk we’re seeing lots of carbon

risk we’re seeing lots of carbon building up in the atmosphere we’re

building up in the atmosphere we’re

building up in the atmosphere we’re seeing a correlation to the temperature

seeing a correlation to the temperature

seeing a correlation to the temperature of the earth rising and then then we

of the earth rising and then then we

of the earth rising and then then we said maybe we need to do something

said maybe we need to do something

said maybe we need to do something different

different

different and those researchers drove us to think

and those researchers drove us to think

and those researchers drove us to think about renewable energy and how do we

about renewable energy and how do we

about renewable energy and how do we change and transform our system into

change and transform our system into

change and transform our system into something else and you have to think

something else and you have to think

something else and you have to think about what happened in 1970 I was a

about what happened in 1970 I was a

about what happened in 1970 I was a semiconductor guy coming out of school

semiconductor guy coming out of school

semiconductor guy coming out of school and it turns out that we didn’t have

and it turns out that we didn’t have

and it turns out that we didn’t have very good semiconductors in 1970 this

very good semiconductors in 1970 this

very good semiconductors in 1970 this transistor was just invented in 1953 so

transistor was just invented in 1953 so

transistor was just invented in 1953 so we couldn’t generate the kind of

we couldn’t generate the kind of

we couldn’t generate the kind of electricity from photovoltaic panels

electricity from photovoltaic panels

electricity from photovoltaic panels that we wanted we couldn’t build those

that we wanted we couldn’t build those

that we wanted we couldn’t build those enormous wind turbines that we see today

enormous wind turbines that we see today

enormous wind turbines that we see today dotting the earth so we were facing some

dotting the earth so we were facing some

dotting the earth so we were facing some real issues in it and it took time but

real issues in it and it took time but

real issues in it and it took time but we transformed ourselves and we started

we transformed ourselves and we started

we transformed ourselves and we started to think about what kind of what kind of

to think about what kind of what kind of

to think about what kind of what kind of a earth do we want what kind of an

a earth do we want what kind of an

a earth do we want what kind of an energy generating system do we need in

energy generating system do we need in

energy generating system do we need in the future and we started what I would

the future and we started what I would

the future and we started what I would refer to as the distributed energy

refer to as the distributed energy

refer to as the distributed energy revolution and that involves lots of

revolution and that involves lots of

revolution and that involves lots of photovoltaic arrays lots of wind farms

photovoltaic arrays lots of wind farms

photovoltaic arrays lots of wind farms lots of bioenergy and doing that more

lots of bioenergy and doing that more

lots of bioenergy and doing that more and more efficiently doing more and more

and more efficiently doing more and more

and more efficiently doing more and more energy generation along the way and this

energy generation along the way and this

energy generation along the way and this has allowed us to make a transition and

has allowed us to make a transition and

has allowed us to make a transition and at the same time we also realize that

at the same time we also realize that

at the same time we also realize that food production that had been come

food production that had been come

food production that had been come centralized was was also crop with

centralized was was also crop with

centralized was was also crop with causing problems we were producing huge

causing problems we were producing huge

causing problems we were producing huge amounts of waste particularly in North

amounts of waste particularly in North

amounts of waste particularly in North Carolina we’re talking about pig manure

Carolina we’re talking about pig manure

Carolina we’re talking about pig manure no pig manure but we generated a lot of

no pig manure but we generated a lot of

no pig manure but we generated a lot of manure we have to deal with that as a as

manure we have to deal with that as a as

manure we have to deal with that as a as a problem now for the last 50 years

a problem now for the last 50 years

a problem now for the last 50 years we’ve been in this distributed energy

we’ve been in this distributed energy

we’ve been in this distributed energy revolution and this distributed energy

revolution and this distributed energy

revolution and this distributed energy revolution is going to go into the

revolution is going to go into the

revolution is going to go into the future we still face risks we still have

future we still face risks we still have

future we still face risks we still have to do the research and we still have to

to do the research and we still have to

to do the research and we still have to reach for those rewards so what’s it

reach for those rewards so what’s it

reach for those rewards so what’s it going to look like in the next 50 years

going to look like in the next 50 years

going to look like in the next 50 years well it’s going to continue and I want

well it’s going to continue and I want

well it’s going to continue and I want to paint a little picture of that for

to paint a little picture of that for

to paint a little picture of that for you

you

you renewable energy is going to continue

renewable energy is going to continue

renewable energy is going to continue we’re going to have more and more solar

we’re going to have more and more solar

we’re going to have more and more solar wind and bioenergy generated and as that

wind and bioenergy generated and as that

wind and bioenergy generated and as that takes place we have another big research

takes place we have another big research

takes place we have another big research project that’s going on in the world

project that’s going on in the world

project that’s going on in the world today and that’s an energy storage

today and that’s an energy storage

today and that’s an energy storage we need lithium ion batteries we need

we need lithium ion batteries we need

we need lithium ion batteries we need hydroelectric battery storage we need

hydroelectric battery storage we need

hydroelectric battery storage we need compressed gas storage because renewal

compressed gas storage because renewal

compressed gas storage because renewal don’t work all day long when the wind

don’t work all day long when the wind

don’t work all day long when the wind stops the turbines stop no energy when

stops the turbines stop no energy when

stops the turbines stop no energy when the Sun Goes Down the photovoltaic

the Sun Goes Down the photovoltaic

the Sun Goes Down the photovoltaic panels stop making energy so you’re

panels stop making energy so you’re

panels stop making energy so you’re dealing with issues that are of

dealing with issues that are of

dealing with issues that are of intermittency and the only way to deal

intermittency and the only way to deal

intermittency and the only way to deal with that was with storage okay so now

with that was with storage okay so now

with that was with storage okay so now we’ve got all these renewable energy

we’ve got all these renewable energy

we’ve got all these renewable energy sources on our roofs in our backyards in

sources on our roofs in our backyards in

sources on our roofs in our backyards in our communities in solar farms wind

our communities in solar farms wind

our communities in solar farms wind farms onshore offshore big prop big

farms onshore offshore big prop big

farms onshore offshore big prop big energy generation but it’s dotting the

energy generation but it’s dotting the

energy generation but it’s dotting the entire nation so how do we deal with

entire nation so how do we deal with

entire nation so how do we deal with that we need a smart grid we need

that we need a smart grid we need

that we need a smart grid we need something and what is this market it’s

something and what is this market it’s

something and what is this market it’s pretty simple it’s a computer with a lot

pretty simple it’s a computer with a lot

pretty simple it’s a computer with a lot of data and a lot of algorithms telling

of data and a lot of algorithms telling

of data and a lot of algorithms telling us exactly how to move the energy around

us exactly how to move the energy around

us exactly how to move the energy around to each of our homes to each of our

to each of our homes to each of our

to each of our homes to each of our businesses and to deliver the energy we

businesses and to deliver the energy we

businesses and to deliver the energy we need when we need it and get it to our

need when we need it and get it to our

need when we need it and get it to our front door nice okay so now we’ve done

front door nice okay so now we’ve done

front door nice okay so now we’ve done that we’ve built ourselves a nice smart

that we’ve built ourselves a nice smart

that we’ve built ourselves a nice smart crew we’ve got a great computer then we

crew we’ve got a great computer then we

crew we’ve got a great computer then we open ourselves up to the hackers because

open ourselves up to the hackers because

open ourselves up to the hackers because everybody in the world wants to hack

everybody in the world wants to hack

everybody in the world wants to hack into something it’s just fun to do so so

into something it’s just fun to do so so

into something it’s just fun to do so so now we have a whole other Research

now we have a whole other Research

now we have a whole other Research Center in the energy environment called

Center in the energy environment called

Center in the energy environment called cyber security just like we have cyber

cyber security just like we have cyber

cyber security just like we have cyber security in the financial industry we

security in the financial industry we

security in the financial industry we have a cyber security research effort

have a cyber security research effort

have a cyber security research effort going on in the energy industry all

going on in the energy industry all

going on in the energy industry all right so now we’ve talked about the

right so now we’ve talked about the

right so now we’ve talked about the energy generation side of the business

energy generation side of the business

energy generation side of the business but there’s also a lot of research going

but there’s also a lot of research going

but there’s also a lot of research going on at our universities and elsewhere

on at our universities and elsewhere

on at our universities and elsewhere that that are dealing with the energy

that that are dealing with the energy

that that are dealing with the energy use side we have to say we have to find

use side we have to say we have to find

use side we have to say we have to find ways of using less energy and primarily

ways of using less energy and primarily

ways of using less energy and primarily that falls into two areas buildings and

that falls into two areas buildings and

that falls into two areas buildings and transportation so in buildings we’re

transportation so in buildings we’re

transportation so in buildings we’re looking for those ways to reduce the

looking for those ways to reduce the

looking for those ways to reduce the amount of energy that’s required from

amount of energy that’s required from

amount of energy that’s required from heating and air conditioning systems

heating and air conditioning systems

heating and air conditioning systems we’re looking for ways to insulate our

we’re looking for ways to insulate our

we’re looking for ways to insulate our buildings better to use the natural

buildings better to use the natural

buildings better to use the natural light of the sunshine to produce energy

light of the sunshine to produce energy

light of the sunshine to produce energy for on the inside of our buildings

for on the inside of our buildings

for on the inside of our buildings without having to generate electricity

without having to generate electricity

without having to generate electricity to do so and a transportation we all see

to do so and a transportation we all see

to do so and a transportation we all see it coming electric vehicles and the

it coming electric vehicles and the

it coming electric vehicles and the electrification our transportation

electrification our transportation

electrification our transportation sector is happening today and we’re

sector is happening today and we’re

sector is happening today and we’re going to see that happen in the next

going to see that happen in the next

going to see that happen in the next decade or two I expect to see lots and

decade or two I expect to see lots and

decade or two I expect to see lots and lots of electric vehicles on the road

lots of electric vehicles on the road

lots of electric vehicles on the road and then no drivers either we’re going

and then no drivers either we’re going

and then no drivers either we’re going to have autonomous vehicles and that’s

to have autonomous vehicles and that’s

to have autonomous vehicles and that’s going to help us save it enormous

going to help us save it enormous

going to help us save it enormous amount of energy we won’t have to

amount of energy we won’t have to

amount of energy we won’t have to produce as much energy if we have

produce as much energy if we have

produce as much energy if we have electrification on the transportation

electrification on the transportation

electrification on the transportation sector and I would be remiss if I didn’t

sector and I would be remiss if I didn’t

sector and I would be remiss if I didn’t mention one more big research area

mention one more big research area

mention one more big research area that’s going to be very important and

that’s going to be very important and

that’s going to be very important and it’s getting a lot of attention today

it’s getting a lot of attention today

it’s getting a lot of attention today and that’s the Nexus of food energy and

and that’s the Nexus of food energy and

and that’s the Nexus of food energy and water you see food energy and water are

water you see food energy and water are

water you see food energy and water are interrelated they depend upon each other

interrelated they depend upon each other

interrelated they depend upon each other energy energy uses one quarter of all

energy energy uses one quarter of all

energy energy uses one quarter of all the surface water just to cool those

the surface water just to cool those

the surface water just to cool those plants today it’s a lot of it’s a lot of

plants today it’s a lot of it’s a lot of

plants today it’s a lot of it’s a lot of and in California it takes 25% of their

and in California it takes 25% of their

and in California it takes 25% of their entire energy bill just to move water

entire energy bill just to move water

entire energy bill just to move water around the state it’s enormous

around the state it’s enormous

around the state it’s enormous and food we want to grow more food with

and food we want to grow more food with

and food we want to grow more food with less water so we have to figure out ways

less water so we have to figure out ways

less water so we have to figure out ways to study that relationship between those

to study that relationship between those

to study that relationship between those three so you see we’re going to do the

three so you see we’re going to do the

three so you see we’re going to do the research we’re going to address the risk

research we’re going to address the risk

research we’re going to address the risk so we can continue to reap the rewards

so we can continue to reap the rewards

so we can continue to reap the rewards from energy sources like electricity and

from energy sources like electricity and

from energy sources like electricity and food now let’s take a look at a few of

food now let’s take a look at a few of

food now let’s take a look at a few of these a little with a little bit more

these a little with a little bit more

these a little with a little bit more detail environmental risk from coal

detail environmental risk from coal

detail environmental risk from coal exists you can tell it’s risky because

exists you can tell it’s risky because

exists you can tell it’s risky because the guys wearing a gas mask he’s taking

the guys wearing a gas mask he’s taking

the guys wearing a gas mask he’s taking samples from the Dan River here in North

samples from the Dan River here in North

samples from the Dan River here in North Carolina after a coal spill nasty right

Carolina after a coal spill nasty right

Carolina after a coal spill nasty right very nasty so we’re trying to figure out

very nasty so we’re trying to figure out

very nasty so we’re trying to figure out how do we do this how do we how do we

how do we do this how do we how do we

how do we do this how do we how do we take care of this risk what do we do

take care of this risk what do we do

take care of this risk what do we do well one of the best thing that’s being

well one of the best thing that’s being

well one of the best thing that’s being done right now is calls being used less

done right now is calls being used less

done right now is calls being used less in 1985 57% of our electricity came from

in 1985 57% of our electricity came from

in 1985 57% of our electricity came from coal today it’s just barely above 30% in

coal today it’s just barely above 30% in

coal today it’s just barely above 30% in fact in the last couple of years natural

fact in the last couple of years natural

fact in the last couple of years natural gas surpassed call electricity

gas surpassed call electricity

gas surpassed call electricity production that’s a good thing because

production that’s a good thing because

production that’s a good thing because it produces less carbon emissions but we

it produces less carbon emissions but we

it produces less carbon emissions but we also have to deal with it with the

also have to deal with it with the

also have to deal with it with the actual coal ash that’s produced and one

actual coal ash that’s produced and one

actual coal ash that’s produced and one way that’s done is with cement it turns

way that’s done is with cement it turns

way that’s done is with cement it turns out that half of the weight of cement is

out that half of the weight of cement is

out that half of the weight of cement is coal ash and it’s good because you mix

coal ash and it’s good because you mix

coal ash and it’s good because you mix this coal ash which is filled with

this coal ash which is filled with

this coal ash which is filled with horrible things heavy metals and

horrible things heavy metals and

horrible things heavy metals and hazardous substances you put it in

hazardous substances you put it in

hazardous substances you put it in cement and locks it up and prevents it

cement and locks it up and prevents it

cement and locks it up and prevents it from getting into the environment it

from getting into the environment it

from getting into the environment it prevents it from being spilled into the

prevents it from being spilled into the

prevents it from being spilled into the water systems and when it spills in our

water systems and when it spills in our

water systems and when it spills in our water systems

water systems

water systems it gets a damages the water people drink

it gets a damages the water people drink

it gets a damages the water people drink the water

the water

the water people get sick people file suit the

people get sick people file suit the

people get sick people file suit the judge’s order clean up to take place the

judge’s order clean up to take place the

judge’s order clean up to take place the electric companies go out there and

electric companies go out there and

electric companies go out there and clean up the mess and that costs a

clean up the mess and that costs a

clean up the mess and that costs a fortune and who pays for that you and me

fortune and who pays for that you and me

fortune and who pays for that you and me okay so we all understand that problem

okay so we all understand that problem

okay so we all understand that problem this is what we’re doing in our research

this is what we’re doing in our research

this is what we’re doing in our research center we’re looking at ways to make

center we’re looking at ways to make

center we’re looking at ways to make coal ash composites we’re mixing the

coal ash composites we’re mixing the

coal ash composites we’re mixing the coal ash up to as much as 85 percent by

coal ash up to as much as 85 percent by

coal ash up to as much as 85 percent by weight with polyurethane and making

weight with polyurethane and making

weight with polyurethane and making these coal ash composites it locks up

these coal ash composites it locks up

these coal ash composites it locks up the material just like some cement does

the material just like some cement does

the material just like some cement does and prevents it from getting into the

and prevents it from getting into the

and prevents it from getting into the into the environment we’ve tested these

into the environment we’ve tested these

into the environment we’ve tested these we put them in water streams and we

we put them in water streams and we

we put them in water streams and we tested them over time and we know that

tested them over time and we know that

tested them over time and we know that the amount of leaching that comes out of

the amount of leaching that comes out of

the amount of leaching that comes out of these blocks these polyurethane blocks

these blocks these polyurethane blocks

these blocks these polyurethane blocks is very very low much lower than the EPA

is very very low much lower than the EPA

is very very low much lower than the EPA standards and it doesn’t pollute the

standards and it doesn’t pollute the

standards and it doesn’t pollute the environment other ways we can use these

environment other ways we can use these

environment other ways we can use these same materials is add a little bit more

same materials is add a little bit more

same materials is add a little bit more air make them into lighter foam like

air make them into lighter foam like

air make them into lighter foam like materials their fire resistant after you

materials their fire resistant after you

materials their fire resistant after you burn coal and you’re left with coal ash

burn coal and you’re left with coal ash

burn coal and you’re left with coal ash there is absolutely nothing left to burn

there is absolutely nothing left to burn

there is absolutely nothing left to burn it doesn’t doesn’t have any energy in it

it doesn’t doesn’t have any energy in it

it doesn’t doesn’t have any energy in it anymore so you mix it with something

anymore so you mix it with something

anymore so you mix it with something else and it’s going to be naturally fire

else and it’s going to be naturally fire

else and it’s going to be naturally fire resistant so we could turn these blocks

resistant so we could turn these blocks

resistant so we could turn these blocks into walls retaining walls there also

into walls retaining walls there also

into walls retaining walls there also sound absorbent so they can do some

sound absorbent so they can do some

sound absorbent so they can do some sound insulation at the same time the

sound insulation at the same time the

sound insulation at the same time the big winner in in our research could be

big winner in in our research could be

big winner in in our research could be in the area of lumber we can make

in the area of lumber we can make

in the area of lumber we can make materials that look just like lumber

materials that look just like lumber

materials that look just like lumber just like wood anything you can make

just like wood anything you can make

just like wood anything you can make with wood you can make with these coal

with wood you can make with these coal

with wood you can make with these coal ash composites you can mold it cut it

ash composites you can mold it cut it

ash composites you can mold it cut it form it connect it to each other you can

form it connect it to each other you can

form it connect it to each other you can make things like molding railroad ties

make things like molding railroad ties

make things like molding railroad ties decks for your pool or your backyard

decks for your pool or your backyard

decks for your pool or your backyard telephone pole crossbars anything you

telephone pole crossbars anything you

telephone pole crossbars anything you want it’s possible with these materials

want it’s possible with these materials

want it’s possible with these materials so let’s take another look at some other

so let’s take another look at some other

so let’s take another look at some other issues with the environmental risk this

issues with the environmental risk this

issues with the environmental risk this is a picture of the shipping port

is a picture of the shipping port

is a picture of the shipping port Pennsylvania coal ash plants the largest

Pennsylvania coal ash plants the largest

Pennsylvania coal ash plants the largest in the United States and I just put this

in the United States and I just put this

in the United States and I just put this picture up to show you the stuff that

picture up to show you the stuff that

picture up to show you the stuff that comes out of the stacks which contains

comes out of the stacks which contains

comes out of the stacks which contains some carbon so the carbon emissions is a

some carbon so the carbon emissions is a

some carbon so the carbon emissions is a big issue in North Carolina we have the

big issue in North Carolina we have the

big issue in North Carolina we have the same problems we generate lots and lots

same problems we generate lots and lots

same problems we generate lots and lots of carbon and we put it into the air and

of carbon and we put it into the air and

of carbon and we put it into the air and as I said this is an

as I said this is an

as I said this is an environmental risk for our planet so

environmental risk for our planet so

environmental risk for our planet so part of the research we’re doing is to

part of the research we’re doing is to

part of the research we’re doing is to model some of these things and try to

model some of these things and try to

model some of these things and try to understand how their scenarios or ways

understand how their scenarios or ways

understand how their scenarios or ways to get around these kinds of risks in

to get around these kinds of risks in

to get around these kinds of risks in the environment that we live in today

the environment that we live in today

the environment that we live in today and there are it turns out we collect

and there are it turns out we collect

and there are it turns out we collect the data from 700 energy generating

the data from 700 energy generating

the data from 700 energy generating plants across this state we have

plants across this state we have

plants across this state we have electric we have we have PV excuse me

electric we have we have PV excuse me

electric we have we have PV excuse me visit the photovoltaics we have

visit the photovoltaics we have

visit the photovoltaics we have hydroelectric power we have wind power

hydroelectric power we have wind power

hydroelectric power we have wind power we have nuclear power we have coal oil

we have nuclear power we have coal oil

we have nuclear power we have coal oil and natural gas power so we collect the

and natural gas power so we collect the

and natural gas power so we collect the information that gets reported to the

information that gets reported to the

information that gets reported to the Energy Information Administration that’s

Energy Information Administration that’s

Energy Information Administration that’s the EIA on an hourly basis 365 for all

the EIA on an hourly basis 365 for all

the EIA on an hourly basis 365 for all 700 plants and we put them into a

700 plants and we put them into a

700 plants and we put them into a computer program this is tens of

computer program this is tens of

computer program this is tens of millions of pieces of data and we model

millions of pieces of data and we model

millions of pieces of data and we model and simulate what happens if you change

and simulate what happens if you change

and simulate what happens if you change some of the makeup of that system take

some of the makeup of that system take

some of the makeup of that system take away a little coal add some natural gas

away a little coal add some natural gas

away a little coal add some natural gas add a whole bunch of photovoltaics

add a whole bunch of photovoltaics

add a whole bunch of photovoltaics add as much as you can of wind power

add as much as you can of wind power

add as much as you can of wind power like our Amazon wind station out in the

like our Amazon wind station out in the

like our Amazon wind station out in the North East part of North Carolina and it

North East part of North Carolina and it

North East part of North Carolina and it turns out that we can reach the kinds of

turns out that we can reach the kinds of

turns out that we can reach the kinds of goals that have been set by the Paris

goals that have been set by the Paris

goals that have been set by the Paris Accord in late 2015

Accord in late 2015

Accord in late 2015 30% reductions in emissions by the year

30% reductions in emissions by the year

30% reductions in emissions by the year 2030 are possible in this state and

2030 are possible in this state and

2030 are possible in this state and probably most every other state in the

probably most every other state in the

probably most every other state in the nation and the way we do that is we just

nation and the way we do that is we just

nation and the way we do that is we just introduce natural gas solar and wind

introduce natural gas solar and wind

introduce natural gas solar and wind while still producing the amount of

while still producing the amount of

while still producing the amount of energy that all of us need is even a

energy that all of us need is even a

energy that all of us need is even a projected 20% growth for the state of

projected 20% growth for the state of

projected 20% growth for the state of North Carolina but it appears possible

North Carolina but it appears possible

North Carolina but it appears possible from our scenarios and our modeling that

from our scenarios and our modeling that

from our scenarios and our modeling that we can do all of that we can have all

we can do all of that we can have all

we can do all of that we can have all the energy we want and we can reduce the

the energy we want and we can reduce the

the energy we want and we can reduce the carbon emissions at the same time now

carbon emissions at the same time now

carbon emissions at the same time now let’s switch the food production every

let’s switch the food production every

let’s switch the food production every good talk should have pictures of pigs I

good talk should have pictures of pigs I

good talk should have pictures of pigs I meant every talk I give from now on I’m

meant every talk I give from now on I’m

meant every talk I give from now on I’m going to put a picture of a pig up there

going to put a picture of a pig up there

going to put a picture of a pig up there they’re really cute everybody loves the

they’re really cute everybody loves the

they’re really cute everybody loves the look at pigs but behind all those pigs

look at pigs but behind all those pigs

look at pigs but behind all those pigs there’s an issue and that’s poop and pig

there’s an issue and that’s poop and pig

there’s an issue and that’s poop and pig manure or pig poop is it comes a lot

manure or pig poop is it comes a lot

manure or pig poop is it comes a lot there’s a lot of pig poop it comes out

there’s a lot of pig poop it comes out

there’s a lot of pig poop it comes out almost a ton of pig manure

almost a ton of pig manure

almost a ton of pig manure per year and in the state and in the

per year and in the state and in the

per year and in the state and in the United States it’s 40 million tons of

United States it’s 40 million tons of

United States it’s 40 million tons of pig manure being produced fortunately

pig manure being produced fortunately

pig manure being produced fortunately we’re not first

we’re not first

we’re not first that’s Iowa oh it has three to four

that’s Iowa oh it has three to four

that’s Iowa oh it has three to four times the number of pigs as we do we’re

times the number of pigs as we do we’re

times the number of pigs as we do we’re second right

second right

second right but being second in pig production means

but being second in pig production means

but being second in pig production means we’re second in pig poop production as

we’re second in pig poop production as

we’re second in pig poop production as well but don’t feel bad

well but don’t feel bad

well but don’t feel bad China’s even worse they have 400 million

China’s even worse they have 400 million

China’s even worse they have 400 million tons of pig manure that they have to

tons of pig manure that they have to

tons of pig manure that they have to deal with each year ten times what the

deal with each year ten times what the

deal with each year ten times what the United States faces but we need to find

United States faces but we need to find

United States faces but we need to find ways to deal with this well pig manure

ways to deal with this well pig manure

ways to deal with this well pig manure is not the greatest thing for making you

is not the greatest thing for making you

is not the greatest thing for making you know it’s not it’s not the same as the

know it’s not it’s not the same as the

know it’s not it’s not the same as the kinds of manure you get from chicken

kinds of manure you get from chicken

kinds of manure you get from chicken manure for instance you can’t use it as

manure for instance you can’t use it as

manure for instance you can’t use it as a composting material it has a very low

a composting material it has a very low

a composting material it has a very low level of phosphorus and nitrogen it’s

level of phosphorus and nitrogen it’s

level of phosphorus and nitrogen it’s not a very good composting material so

not a very good composting material so

not a very good composting material so we needed to find something different

we needed to find something different

we needed to find something different and that’s something that the difference

and that’s something that the difference

and that’s something that the difference is in the transportation sector it turns

is in the transportation sector it turns

is in the transportation sector it turns out that the oils in pig manure are very

out that the oils in pig manure are very

out that the oils in pig manure are very similar to the oils in petroleum and can

similar to the oils in petroleum and can

similar to the oils in petroleum and can be used to make that black gooey asphalt

be used to make that black gooey asphalt

be used to make that black gooey asphalt type material that we see on our roads

type material that we see on our roads

type material that we see on our roads it’s not good for making gasoline either

it’s not good for making gasoline either

it’s not good for making gasoline either like petroleum is so we’ve focused on

like petroleum is so we’ve focused on

like petroleum is so we’ve focused on the transportation sector and making tar

the transportation sector and making tar

the transportation sector and making tar like asphalt materials to make roads and

like asphalt materials to make roads and

like asphalt materials to make roads and it turns out that it passes all the

it turns out that it passes all the

it turns out that it passes all the tests from the Department of

tests from the Department of

tests from the Department of Transportation it doesn’t crack it

Transportation it doesn’t crack it

Transportation it doesn’t crack it stands up to the cold the wind the rain

stands up to the cold the wind the rain

stands up to the cold the wind the rain the sleet and it and it doesn’t deform

the sleet and it and it doesn’t deform

the sleet and it and it doesn’t deform too much so it’s very much equivalent to

too much so it’s very much equivalent to

too much so it’s very much equivalent to what we get out of petroleum production

what we get out of petroleum production

what we get out of petroleum production and that’s where we are today and now

and that’s where we are today and now

and that’s where we are today and now we’re looking at how do we ramp up that

we’re looking at how do we ramp up that

we’re looking at how do we ramp up that research work to turn that into a

research work to turn that into a

research work to turn that into a production environment and start making

production environment and start making

production environment and start making roads right here in North Carolina and

roads right here in North Carolina and

roads right here in North Carolina and there’s our reward

there’s our reward

there’s our reward some of you may have had an Easter ham

some of you may have had an Easter ham

some of you may have had an Easter ham this past Sunday and some of you might

this past Sunday and some of you might

this past Sunday and some of you might have bacon I’m going to this weekend at

have bacon I’m going to this weekend at

have bacon I’m going to this weekend at my favorite breakfast restaurant here in

my favorite breakfast restaurant here in

my favorite breakfast restaurant here in town so the point here is that we face

town so the point here is that we face

town so the point here is that we face risks and there are rewards at the end

risks and there are rewards at the end

risks and there are rewards at the end and the way to get there is through

and the way to get there is through

and the way to get there is through really hard research work and the

really hard research work and the

really hard research work and the distributed energy revolution is going

distributed energy revolution is going

distributed energy revolution is going to continue for the next 50 years it’s

to continue for the next 50 years it’s

to continue for the next 50 years it’s going to take decades change is

going to take decades change is

going to take decades change is inevitable research will address the

inevitable research will address the

inevitable research will address the risks and I promise the rewards will

risks and I promise the rewards will

risks and I promise the rewards will astound us all thank you

astound us all thank you

astound us all thank you [Applause]

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