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Will schools exist 50 years from now? | Marc Sanz López | TEDxESADE


hello everyone how’s everyone was was

hello everyone how’s everyone was was lunch good that’s great so thanks for

lunch good that’s great so thanks for

lunch good that’s great so thanks for the introduction

the introduction

the introduction thanks for all the organization this

thanks for all the organization this

thanks for all the organization this looks great my name is mark since Lopez

looks great my name is mark since Lopez

looks great my name is mark since Lopez as I was introduced

as I was introduced

as I was introduced I was alumna of the house actually I’m

I was alumna of the house actually I’m

I was alumna of the house actually I’m really excited to be here today as me

really excited to be here today as me

really excited to be here today as me and two colleagues found that TEDx s at

and two colleagues found that TEDx s at

and two colleagues found that TEDx s at about six years ago it’s so good to see

about six years ago it’s so good to see

about six years ago it’s so good to see how much it’s progressed them and how

how much it’s progressed them and how

how much it’s progressed them and how professionals become as well so my job

professionals become as well so my job

professionals become as well so my job is ahead of Google for education for the

is ahead of Google for education for the

is ahead of Google for education for the south of Europe as you heard and I

south of Europe as you heard and I

south of Europe as you heard and I literally talked to thousands of schools

literally talked to thousands of schools

literally talked to thousands of schools on how to improve teaching and learning

on how to improve teaching and learning

on how to improve teaching and learning at their schools with the help of

at their schools with the help of

at their schools with the help of technology now education is transforming

technology now education is transforming

technology now education is transforming it’s transforming a lot and today we’re

it’s transforming a lot and today we’re

it’s transforming a lot and today we’re going to talk a little bit about how

going to talk a little bit about how

going to talk a little bit about how this transformation is going what’s

this transformation is going what’s

this transformation is going what’s going good what’s gone bad and also why

going good what’s gone bad and also why

going good what’s gone bad and also why that transformation which I don’t here

that transformation which I don’t here

that transformation which I don’t here we’re talking off about so the world is

we’re talking off about so the world is

we’re talking off about so the world is changing fast right I’m not sure if your

changing fast right I’m not sure if your

changing fast right I’m not sure if your Christmas letters we’re looking like

Christmas letters we’re looking like

Christmas letters we’re looking like that some time ago but I always tell

that some time ago but I always tell

that some time ago but I always tell schools the world is changing faster

schools the world is changing faster

schools the world is changing faster than yesterday but it’s changing slower

than yesterday but it’s changing slower

than yesterday but it’s changing slower than tomorrow and it always will and in

than tomorrow and it always will and in

than tomorrow and it always will and in this transformation that is happening I

this transformation that is happening I

this transformation that is happening I always tell schools that the sooner they

always tell schools that the sooner they

always tell schools that the sooner they endorse and acknowledge these

endorse and acknowledge these

endorse and acknowledge these transformation their needs the new needs

transformation their needs the new needs

transformation their needs the new needs for education how we transforming how

for education how we transforming how

for education how we transforming how the classes work or what we learn in

the classes work or what we learn in

the classes work or what we learn in them and how to adopt technology in an

them and how to adopt technology in an

them and how to adopt technology in an efficient way

efficient way

efficient way the sooner they do that the easier will

the sooner they do that the easier will

the sooner they do that the easier will be because every time we’ll go faster

be because every time we’ll go faster

be because every time we’ll go faster every time we’ll be further away from

every time we’ll be further away from

every time we’ll be further away from where that school is if it’s been very

where that school is if it’s been very

where that school is if it’s been very conservative and has an adopted new

conservative and has an adopted new

conservative and has an adopted new technology so why are school’s

technology so why are school’s

technology so why are school’s transforming right like I just don’t see

transforming right like I just don’t see

transforming right like I just don’t see people talking so much about the why and

people talking so much about the why and

people talking so much about the why and if we don’t know why we’re transforming

if we don’t know why we’re transforming

if we don’t know why we’re transforming our education system throughout higher

our education system throughout higher

our education system throughout higher education throughout k12 that means

education throughout k12 that means

education throughout k12 that means primary and secondary we won’t know how

primary and secondary we won’t know how

primary and secondary we won’t know how we do it how to do it and we won’t know

we do it how to do it and we won’t know

we do it how to do it and we won’t know how to evaluate if we’ve done it well

how to evaluate if we’ve done it well

how to evaluate if we’ve done it well the why is everything guys so what

the why is everything guys so what

the why is everything guys so what happened is we’ve changed there right

happened is we’ve changed there right

happened is we’ve changed there right before um the information was a very

before um the information was a very

before um the information was a very scarce resource an education education

scarce resource an education education

scarce resource an education education purpose for the last couple thousand

purpose for the last couple thousand

purpose for the last couple thousand years it’s been mainly to transfer

years it’s been mainly to transfer

years it’s been mainly to transfer to students because you had knowledge if

to students because you had knowledge if

to students because you had knowledge if you knew stuff you were very valuable in

you knew stuff you were very valuable in

you knew stuff you were very valuable in the workplace right um whose parents

the workplace right um whose parents

the workplace right um whose parents didn’t have paper encyclopedias at home

didn’t have paper encyclopedias at home

didn’t have paper encyclopedias at home right how many of you have used it in

right how many of you have used it in

right how many of you have used it in the last year none right I mean you

the last year none right I mean you

the last year none right I mean you probably don’t even have them in your

probably don’t even have them in your

probably don’t even have them in your new flats either and that’s that’s a

new flats either and that’s that’s a

new flats either and that’s that’s a that’s kind of a sign of how information

that’s kind of a sign of how information

that’s kind of a sign of how information now is everywhere and that’s a problem

now is everywhere and that’s a problem

now is everywhere and that’s a problem for schools that have been not you know

for schools that have been not you know

for schools that have been not you know they’re still focusing older job all the

they’re still focusing older job all the

they’re still focusing older job all the work on transferring their knowledge of

work on transferring their knowledge of

work on transferring their knowledge of it it’s not really a problem it’s really

it it’s not really a problem it’s really

it it’s not really a problem it’s really nice that information is everywhere

nice that information is everywhere

nice that information is everywhere right but what matters now is how we use

right but what matters now is how we use

right but what matters now is how we use that information things like creativity

that information things like creativity

that information things like creativity problem-solving communication on

problem-solving communication on

problem-solving communication on collaboration or decision-making those

collaboration or decision-making those

collaboration or decision-making those are the skills that being demanded in

are the skills that being demanded in

are the skills that being demanded in the workplace today now this is a

the workplace today now this is a

the workplace today now this is a problem how to evaluate those skills as

problem how to evaluate those skills as

problem how to evaluate those skills as well as to teach them right schools have

well as to teach them right schools have

well as to teach them right schools have to transform they have to teach new

to transform they have to teach new

to transform they have to teach new things more skill based education rather

things more skill based education rather

things more skill based education rather than knowledge but the hardest challenge

than knowledge but the hardest challenge

than knowledge but the hardest challenge as Andreas Wagner from the OECD points

as Andreas Wagner from the OECD points

as Andreas Wagner from the OECD points out is how to evaluate because how do we

out is how to evaluate because how do we

out is how to evaluate because how do we measure how good you are taking

measure how good you are taking

measure how good you are taking decisions and this is something that

decisions and this is something that

decisions and this is something that sadly puts a lot of thought into right

sadly puts a lot of thought into right

sadly puts a lot of thought into right how do we measure how well you

how do we measure how well you

how do we measure how well you collaborate there’s ways to do it but

collaborate there’s ways to do it but

collaborate there’s ways to do it but especially in in the k-12 right in the

especially in in the k-12 right in the

especially in in the k-12 right in the younger education stages this is being

younger education stages this is being

younger education stages this is being pleased to be improving to be really

pleased to be improving to be really

pleased to be improving to be really hard so what makes you competitive

hard so what makes you competitive

hard so what makes you competitive nowadays I think there’s a lot of

nowadays I think there’s a lot of

nowadays I think there’s a lot of students in the audience right what do

students in the audience right what do

students in the audience right what do you think companies are going to look

you think companies are going to look

you think companies are going to look for when they when they’re hiring when

for when they when they’re hiring when

for when they when they’re hiring when you get out and you’ll applying for that

you get out and you’ll applying for that

you get out and you’ll applying for that job what do you think they’re looking

job what do you think they’re looking

job what do you think they’re looking for do you think they’re looking for

for do you think they’re looking for

for do you think they’re looking for grades isn’t they they’re looking for

grades isn’t they they’re looking for

grades isn’t they they’re looking for certificates of stuff depending what

certificates of stuff depending what

certificates of stuff depending what certificate right here the depends over

certificate right here the depends over

certificate right here the depends over there right like it’s not the same just

there right like it’s not the same just

there right like it’s not the same just like a curry or five years in a

like a curry or five years in a

like a curry or five years in a university then as then a course around

university then as then a course around

university then as then a course around maybe Stanford or even a certification

maybe Stanford or even a certification

maybe Stanford or even a certification around my company we look into more

around my company we look into more

around my company we look into more about it before but the reality is we

about it before but the reality is we

about it before but the reality is we actually don’t have much debate about

actually don’t have much debate about

actually don’t have much debate about this and it’s good it’s really good

this and it’s good it’s really good

this and it’s good it’s really good because if we if we didn’t know and we

because if we if we didn’t know and we

because if we if we didn’t know and we had a lot of conflict around

had a lot of conflict around

had a lot of conflict around understanding this we would be really

understanding this we would be really

understanding this we would be really lost right now but this is a store

lost right now but this is a store

lost right now but this is a store study from the economies group um they

study from the economies group um they

study from the economies group um they interviewed many multinational companies

interviewed many multinational companies

interviewed many multinational companies and they asked them what are you looking

and they asked them what are you looking

and they asked them what are you looking for in the new recruits right new

for in the new recruits right new

for in the new recruits right new employees what kind of skills are you

employees what kind of skills are you

employees what kind of skills are you looking for and the top three we’re

looking for and the top three we’re

looking for and the top three we’re absolutely unanimous problem-solving

absolutely unanimous problem-solving

absolutely unanimous problem-solving teamwork on communications and

teamwork on communications and

teamwork on communications and communications is a very broad skill

communications is a very broad skill

communications is a very broad skill right it includes from social network to

right it includes from social network to

right it includes from social network to meetings to speeches – why not TED Talks

meetings to speeches – why not TED Talks

meetings to speeches – why not TED Talks as well so the problem is how do we

as well so the problem is how do we

as well so the problem is how do we teach them on how to evaluate them and

teach them on how to evaluate them and

teach them on how to evaluate them and this is not new right this is not like

this is not new right this is not like

this is not new right this is not like we haven’t discovered this this year

we haven’t discovered this this year

we haven’t discovered this this year we’ve been like easily a couple decades

we’ve been like easily a couple decades

we’ve been like easily a couple decades thinking about skill based learning and

thinking about skill based learning and

thinking about skill based learning and there’s been a lot of research about it

there’s been a lot of research about it

there’s been a lot of research about it and people like like bloom I’ve put a

and people like like bloom I’ve put a

and people like like bloom I’ve put a lot of effort under their taxonomy and

lot of effort under their taxonomy and

lot of effort under their taxonomy and then to redesign in how classes work so

then to redesign in how classes work so

then to redesign in how classes work so we knew we needed to change our

we knew we needed to change our

we knew we needed to change our education system but unfortunately

education system but unfortunately

education system but unfortunately during the last 10 years we really have

during the last 10 years we really have

during the last 10 years we really have built a house upside-down and we’ve you

built a house upside-down and we’ve you

built a house upside-down and we’ve you probably if you talk to schools you

probably if you talk to schools you

probably if you talk to schools you probably hear a lot of tragic stories or

probably hear a lot of tragic stories or

probably hear a lot of tragic stories or horror stories about how technology’s

horror stories about how technology’s

horror stories about how technology’s been implemented in a really bad way and

been implemented in a really bad way and

been implemented in a really bad way and it’s really not proven effective um so

it’s really not proven effective um so

it’s really not proven effective um so let’s go through a lot of some of the

let’s go through a lot of some of the

let’s go through a lot of some of the causes of why technology has not worked

causes of why technology has not worked

causes of why technology has not worked in schools thought that was pretty

in schools thought that was pretty

in schools thought that was pretty self-explanatory a lot of schools have

self-explanatory a lot of schools have

self-explanatory a lot of schools have seen technology as a miracle cure for

seen technology as a miracle cure for

seen technology as a miracle cure for example um school had less students

example um school had less students

example um school had less students every year and they had a problem of new

every year and they had a problem of new

every year and they had a problem of new new students coming in or they had a

new students coming in or they had a

new students coming in or they had a problem around results they didn’t have

problem around results they didn’t have

problem around results they didn’t have the achievements right on the select

the achievements right on the select

the achievements right on the select evil or the a levels whatever it was and

evil or the a levels whatever it was and

evil or the a levels whatever it was and they say why not let’s buy a lot of

they say why not let’s buy a lot of

they say why not let’s buy a lot of computers let’s buy a lot of screens and

computers let’s buy a lot of screens and

computers let’s buy a lot of screens and it’ll solve it guess what it doesn’t

it’ll solve it guess what it doesn’t

it’ll solve it guess what it doesn’t work that way does it we know technology

work that way does it we know technology

work that way does it we know technology can be really productive it can be

can be really productive it can be

can be really productive it can be really efficient I mean half of you are

really efficient I mean half of you are

really efficient I mean half of you are on your phone right now by the way can

on your phone right now by the way can

on your phone right now by the way can you please

I’m kidding you’re actually paying a lot

I’m kidding you’re actually paying a lot of tension I’m really happy but

of tension I’m really happy but

of tension I’m really happy but technology doesn’t work that we’re right

technology doesn’t work that we’re right

technology doesn’t work that we’re right it can be very productive if used in the

it can be very productive if used in the

it can be very productive if used in the right way and that’s really important

right way and that’s really important

right way and that’s really important education marketing all my education

education marketing all my education

education marketing all my education marketing if you allow me I think

marketing if you allow me I think

marketing if you allow me I think education marketing deserves a slide of

education marketing deserves a slide of

education marketing deserves a slide of its own it’s just really really boring

its own it’s just really really boring

its own it’s just really really boring um a lot of people think most people

um a lot of people think most people

um a lot of people think most people think that the people working in

think that the people working in

think that the people working in education are philanthropist unicorns

education are philanthropist unicorns

education are philanthropist unicorns are just really nice people right that

are just really nice people right that

are just really nice people right that don’t care about money and they’re just

don’t care about money and they’re just

don’t care about money and they’re just very very ultra stand like amazing

very very ultra stand like amazing

very very ultra stand like amazing people guess what is just another

people guess what is just another

people guess what is just another industry it’s a business with customers

industry it’s a business with customers

industry it’s a business with customers with actually with many many customers

with actually with many many customers

with actually with many many customers so education means money to a lot of

so education means money to a lot of

so education means money to a lot of people and money means students in

people and money means students in

people and money means students in education the more students you have the

education the more students you have the

education the more students you have the more money you have as an institution if

more money you have as an institution if

more money you have as an institution if you’re public you’ll get more subsidies

you’re public you’ll get more subsidies

you’re public you’ll get more subsidies from the government if you’re private

from the government if you’re private

from the government if you’re private you’ll get more tuitions but students

you’ll get more tuitions but students

you’ll get more tuitions but students equal money you guys have a dollar sign

equal money you guys have a dollar sign

equal money you guys have a dollar sign on top of your heads guys and if you see

on top of your heads guys and if you see

on top of your heads guys and if you see here this is a population pyramid for

here this is a population pyramid for

here this is a population pyramid for the European Union I need you can see

the European Union I need you can see

the European Union I need you can see it’s constricted constricted means it’s

it’s constricted constricted means it’s

it’s constricted constricted means it’s a little bit lower than the base that

a little bit lower than the base that

a little bit lower than the base that are on the top and what that means is

are on the top and what that means is

are on the top and what that means is the same number of schools and

the same number of schools and

the same number of schools and universities the 20 years were we’re

universities the 20 years were we’re

universities the 20 years were we’re needed now we’re fighting for a much

needed now we’re fighting for a much

needed now we’re fighting for a much significantly less amount of students

significantly less amount of students

significantly less amount of students and that’s why education marketing Rises

and that’s why education marketing Rises

and that’s why education marketing Rises because they need to fight for their

because they need to fight for their

because they need to fight for their students for the first time or in a way

students for the first time or in a way

students for the first time or in a way that they didn’t have to before so if

that they didn’t have to before so if

that they didn’t have to before so if you actually look for education

you actually look for education

you actually look for education marketing Google you’ll be surprised at

marketing Google you’ll be surprised at

marketing Google you’ll be surprised at the number of conferences and seminars

the number of conferences and seminars

the number of conferences and seminars and masters about education marketing

and masters about education marketing

and masters about education marketing it’s just a very big need now now the

it’s just a very big need now now the

it’s just a very big need now now the problem is when when when you do

problem is when when when you do

problem is when when when you do education marketing and it’s a necessary

education marketing and it’s a necessary

education marketing and it’s a necessary evil right but when you do it sometimes

evil right but when you do it sometimes

evil right but when you do it sometimes you end up innovating for the wrong

you end up innovating for the wrong

you end up innovating for the wrong reasons for example you’ll say well we

reasons for example you’ll say well we

reasons for example you’ll say well we have to lure students right and there’s

have to lure students right and there’s

have to lure students right and there’s these other university we’re not that

these other university we’re not that

these other university we’re not that different why don’t I buy a shiny tablet

different why don’t I buy a shiny tablet

different why don’t I buy a shiny tablet and give it to all my students so they

and give it to all my students so they

and give it to all my students so they think they’re so you know so much better

think they’re so you know so much better

think they’re so you know so much better here and they’ll have the newest

here and they’ll have the newest

here and they’ll have the newest technology and we’ll look sewing not

technology and we’ll look sewing not

technology and we’ll look sewing not even so modern and that’s putting

even so modern and that’s putting

even so modern and that’s putting technology in the class for the wrong

technology in the class for the wrong

technology in the class for the wrong reasons that’s building the house upside

reasons that’s building the house upside

reasons that’s building the house upside down I thought it’d be relevant to put

down I thought it’d be relevant to put

down I thought it’d be relevant to put the

the

the local example as well this is the

local example as well this is the

local example as well this is the pyramid for Spain you can see it’s a

pyramid for Spain you can see it’s a

pyramid for Spain you can see it’s a leave it even more constricted you can

leave it even more constricted you can

leave it even more constricted you can say is a little bit more Latin right I’d

say is a little bit more Latin right I’d

say is a little bit more Latin right I’d like to say but it’s very the same we

like to say but it’s very the same we

like to say but it’s very the same we have even a more acute problem and yeah

have even a more acute problem and yeah

have even a more acute problem and yeah I also either you know any single people

I also either you know any single people

I also either you know any single people in the room any single detail oriented

in the room any single detail oriented

in the room any single detail oriented people in the room you might have

people in the room you might have

people in the room you might have realized there’s a 3.3 percent more

realized there’s a 3.3 percent more

realized there’s a 3.3 percent more woman in Spain than men that’s

woman in Spain than men that’s

woman in Spain than men that’s completely irrelevant I just wanted to

completely irrelevant I just wanted to

completely irrelevant I just wanted to point it out so let’s continue with the

point it out so let’s continue with the

point it out so let’s continue with the causes of bad technology using schools

causes of bad technology using schools

causes of bad technology using schools one-size-fits-all approach right I think

one-size-fits-all approach right I think

one-size-fits-all approach right I think that better than explaining it there’s

that better than explaining it there’s

that better than explaining it there’s just this comic vignette which is

just this comic vignette which is

just this comic vignette which is perfect so that’s funny um it’s exactly

perfect so that’s funny um it’s exactly

perfect so that’s funny um it’s exactly how it is it’s really exactly how it is

how it is it’s really exactly how it is

how it is it’s really exactly how it is people are all evaluated the same way

people are all evaluated the same way

people are all evaluated the same way same ties same device same expectations

same ties same device same expectations

same ties same device same expectations same process same space the same time

same process same space the same time

same process same space the same time scope slot for everyone one size fits

scope slot for everyone one size fits

scope slot for everyone one size fits all just doesn’t work like the biggest

all just doesn’t work like the biggest

all just doesn’t work like the biggest innovation we’re bringing with

innovation we’re bringing with

innovation we’re bringing with technology the biggest value we’re

technology the biggest value we’re

technology the biggest value we’re trying to bring with technology to the

trying to bring with technology to the

trying to bring with technology to the class is personalization is you know

class is personalization is you know

class is personalization is you know attending that diverse environment of

attending that diverse environment of

attending that diverse environment of learning needs that Steven have and we

learning needs that Steven have and we

learning needs that Steven have and we Thomas needs students from any age right

Thomas needs students from any age right

Thomas needs students from any age right this applies to higher education as well

this applies to higher education as well

this applies to higher education as well as k12 all the hole-in-the-wall syndrome

as k12 all the hole-in-the-wall syndrome

as k12 all the hole-in-the-wall syndrome some of you might know Sugata Mitra

some of you might know Sugata Mitra

some of you might know Sugata Mitra which is a personal hero of mine most

which is a personal hero of mine most

which is a personal hero of mine most known for the computer in the hole in

known for the computer in the hole in

known for the computer in the hole in the wall some of humor interest in

the wall some of humor interest in

the wall some of humor interest in EdTech might know about him basically

EdTech might know about him basically

EdTech might know about him basically what he did was he put a computer in a

what he did was he put a computer in a

what he did was he put a computer in a wall that was facing a slum in in India

wall that was facing a slum in in India

wall that was facing a slum in in India in Delhi near where he was working and

in Delhi near where he was working and

in Delhi near where he was working and he just put it there and the objective

he just put it there and the objective

he just put it there and the objective was what will they do with it will they

was what will they do with it will they

was what will they do with it will they be able to use it and the most important

be able to use it and the most important

be able to use it and the most important thing is will they be able to use it

thing is will they be able to use it

thing is will they be able to use it with no one teaching them that was the

with no one teaching them that was the

with no one teaching them that was the key thing few weeks later he realized

key thing few weeks later he realized

key thing few weeks later he realized the kids were searching they were

the kids were searching they were

the kids were searching they were browsing they were using a mouse to be

browsing they were using a mouse to be

browsing they were using a mouse to be using a keyboard I was like who taught

using a keyboard I was like who taught

using a keyboard I was like who taught you like how do you do it is right well

you like how do you do it is right well

you like how do you do it is right well they just did not happy with the results

they just did not happy with the results

they just did not happy with the results he replicated this all over India in

he replicated this all over India in

he replicated this all over India in more remote places where there was no

more remote places where there was no

more remote places where there was no chance someone would have coincidentally

chance someone would have coincidentally

chance someone would have coincidentally were accidentally no hey taught them how

were accidentally no hey taught them how

were accidentally no hey taught them how to use the computer and the results were

to use the computer and the results were

to use the computer and the results were astonishing like they were amazing he

astonishing like they were amazing he

astonishing like they were amazing he there’s a lot of white papers you want

there’s a lot of white papers you want

there’s a lot of white papers you want to read more

to read more

to read more about it but basically he proved that

about it but basically he proved that

about it but basically he proved that kids could teach themselves English

kids could teach themselves English

kids could teach themselves English could in themselves biology and other

could in themselves biology and other

could in themselves biology and other subjects by themselves that’s the basis

subjects by themselves that’s the basis

subjects by themselves that’s the basis of flipped learning right flipped

of flipped learning right flipped

of flipped learning right flipped learning is when you do a lot of the

learning is when you do a lot of the

learning is when you do a lot of the homework right a lot of the content or

homework right a lot of the content or

homework right a lot of the content or knowledge processing at home or by your

knowledge processing at home or by your

knowledge processing at home or by your own and then you go to class to the

own and then you go to class to the

own and then you go to class to the teacher for activities for collaboration

teacher for activities for collaboration

teacher for activities for collaboration for doubts for coaching from mentoring

for doubts for coaching from mentoring

for doubts for coaching from mentoring and we know that this has a profound

and we know that this has a profound

and we know that this has a profound positive impact on the teaching and

positive impact on the teaching and

positive impact on the teaching and learning and especially around every

learning and especially around every

learning and especially around every spectrum right I don’t know everyone’s

spectrum right I don’t know everyone’s

spectrum right I don’t know everyone’s needs in education so they’re holding

needs in education so they’re holding

needs in education so they’re holding the world syndrome there was a long

the world syndrome there was a long

the world syndrome there was a long explanation for this one but the

explanation for this one but the

explanation for this one but the hole-in-the-wall syndrome is there’s a

hole-in-the-wall syndrome is there’s a

hole-in-the-wall syndrome is there’s a lot of schools that have thought you

lot of schools that have thought you

lot of schools that have thought you know what if this if these Indian kids

know what if this if these Indian kids

know what if this if these Indian kids with with a only one old computer with

with with a only one old computer with

with with a only one old computer with nearly no accessibility or connectivity

nearly no accessibility or connectivity

nearly no accessibility or connectivity have learned by themselves so much

have learned by themselves so much

have learned by themselves so much imagine when my students can do with an

imagine when my students can do with an

imagine when my students can do with an iPad and that’s just not how it works is

iPad and that’s just not how it works is

iPad and that’s just not how it works is how it works at all big why because in

how it works at all big why because in

how it works at all big why because in as a matter of fact tablets come from

as a matter of fact tablets come from

as a matter of fact tablets come from the consumer market they actually don’t

the consumer market they actually don’t

the consumer market they actually don’t come from the lake from the workplace

come from the lake from the workplace

come from the lake from the workplace remember education is there to prepare

remember education is there to prepare

remember education is there to prepare students for the life for being

students for the life for being

students for the life for being productive in their life apart from the

productive in their life apart from the

productive in their life apart from the culturalization and other learnings

culturalization and other learnings

culturalization and other learnings right if you put a device that is not

right if you put a device that is not

right if you put a device that is not being used in the workplace at all how

being used in the workplace at all how

being used in the workplace at all how do you think that’s going to work right

do you think that’s going to work right

do you think that’s going to work right you go to companies like Apple companies

you go to companies like Apple companies

you go to companies like Apple companies like Google they don’t use tablets as a

like Google they don’t use tablets as a

like Google they don’t use tablets as a main device didn’t you stop which is a

main device didn’t you stop which is a

main device didn’t you stop which is a secondary values even it’s only as a

secondary values even it’s only as a

secondary values even it’s only as a leisure device that people use tablets

leisure device that people use tablets

leisure device that people use tablets in general except very single cases

in general except very single cases

in general except very single cases right and then there’s well been a big

right and then there’s well been a big

right and then there’s well been a big approach about people thinking this is

approach about people thinking this is

approach about people thinking this is an old teachers problem right is that

an old teachers problem right is that

an old teachers problem right is that all you know the old teachers they don’t

all you know the old teachers they don’t

all you know the old teachers they don’t know how to use technology they not tech

know how to use technology they not tech

know how to use technology they not tech savvy they were not taught things before

savvy they were not taught things before

savvy they were not taught things before and that’s that’s very scary it’s very

and that’s that’s very scary it’s very

and that’s that’s very scary it’s very is a very big problem because if you

is a very big problem because if you

is a very big problem because if you think that you think the problem will

think that you think the problem will

think that you think the problem will end by itself will solve itself now

end by itself will solve itself now

end by itself will solve itself now that’s not true at all also because I

that’s not true at all also because I

that’s not true at all also because I see young teachers that are struggling

see young teachers that are struggling

see young teachers that are struggling with technology as much or even more

with technology as much or even more

with technology as much or even more than their older counterparts they’re

than their older counterparts they’re

than their older counterparts they’re basically the teachers are getting out

basically the teachers are getting out

basically the teachers are getting out of University have not been taught in

of University have not been taught in

of University have not been taught in general there’s new active methodologies

general there’s new active methodologies

general there’s new active methodologies for education there’s not being taught

for education there’s not being taught

for education there’s not being taught how to use technology effectively in the

how to use technology effectively in the

how to use technology effectively in the classroom and they haven’t been titled a

classroom and they haven’t been titled a

classroom and they haven’t been titled a new things that we

new things that we

new things that we want to do with education so they’re not

want to do with education so they’re not

want to do with education so they’re not being prepared either it this is not an

being prepared either it this is not an

being prepared either it this is not an old teachers problem this is a whole

old teachers problem this is a whole

old teachers problem this is a whole education system reform and there has to

education system reform and there has to

education system reform and there has to be comprehensive and lastly and a bit of

be comprehensive and lastly and a bit of

be comprehensive and lastly and a bit of a summary of the rest um it’s it’s

a summary of the rest um it’s it’s

a summary of the rest um it’s it’s there’s been an approach of like tech

there’s been an approach of like tech

there’s been an approach of like tech first and pedagogy maybe I can’t say how

first and pedagogy maybe I can’t say how

first and pedagogy maybe I can’t say how many projects I’ve seen in schools with

many projects I’ve seen in schools with

many projects I’ve seen in schools with the make big purchases big purchase of

the make big purchases big purchase of

the make big purchases big purchase of thousands of devices

thousands of devices

thousands of devices unlike interactive whiteboards and

unlike interactive whiteboards and

unlike interactive whiteboards and whatnot and there was not a pedagogical

whatnot and there was not a pedagogical

whatnot and there was not a pedagogical project an initiative behind that’s

project an initiative behind that’s

project an initiative behind that’s completely useless guys there needs to

completely useless guys there needs to

completely useless guys there needs to be a project and technologies there to

be a project and technologies there to

be a project and technologies there to support that project so you know one of

support that project so you know one of

support that project so you know one of the things that I wanted to do in this

the things that I wanted to do in this

the things that I wanted to do in this talk as well is answer some of the most

talk as well is answer some of the most

talk as well is answer some of the most frequent questions that people ask me a

frequent questions that people ask me a

frequent questions that people ask me a lot of people ask me lesson like I don’t

lot of people ask me lesson like I don’t

lot of people ask me lesson like I don’t know anything about education but I I

know anything about education but I I

know anything about education but I I have kids or I’m having kids or I will

have kids or I’m having kids or I will

have kids or I’m having kids or I will have kids I might have kids and I don’t

have kids I might have kids and I don’t

have kids I might have kids and I don’t know not really um

know not really um

know not really um I say what what what should I looking

I say what what what should I looking

I say what what what should I looking for in a school oh how should I post my

for in a school oh how should I post my

for in a school oh how should I post my school to do better um tell me something

school to do better um tell me something

school to do better um tell me something right and it’s hard right because

right and it’s hard right because

right and it’s hard right because obviously it’s a whole industry you

obviously it’s a whole industry you

obviously it’s a whole industry you don’t want to be an expert but I think

don’t want to be an expert but I think

don’t want to be an expert but I think there’s three things that you can take

there’s three things that you can take

there’s three things that you can take here home whether you’re stealing your a

here home whether you’re stealing your a

here home whether you’re stealing your a parent or your your parent want to be

parent or your your parent want to be

parent or your your parent want to be you can take this tree home first this

you can take this tree home first this

you can take this tree home first this develop a critical eye most of the

develop a critical eye most of the

develop a critical eye most of the technology we’re using um it’s very

technology we’re using um it’s very

technology we’re using um it’s very obsolete technology dressed with amazing

obsolete technology dressed with amazing

obsolete technology dressed with amazing UI user interface right basically as a

UI user interface right basically as a

UI user interface right basically as a rule of thumb if the device you’re using

rule of thumb if the device you’re using

rule of thumb if the device you’re using right now or the tools that you use to

right now or the tools that you use to

right now or the tools that you use to work have either a number after the name

work have either a number after the name

work have either a number after the name or a year it’s not transformative

or a year it’s not transformative

or a year it’s not transformative technology it’s incremental innovation

technology it’s incremental innovation

technology it’s incremental innovation right it’s a 10 20 30 40 percent

right it’s a 10 20 30 40 percent

right it’s a 10 20 30 40 percent improvement on what was there before but

improvement on what was there before but

improvement on what was there before but it’s not transformative for example

it’s not transformative for example

it’s not transformative for example iPhone one transformative very

iPhone one transformative very

iPhone one transformative very transformative iPhone 7 plus not

transformative iPhone 7 plus not

transformative iPhone 7 plus not transform it right it’s an improvement

transform it right it’s an improvement

transform it right it’s an improvement on the twenty five previous iPhone so

on the twenty five previous iPhone so

on the twenty five previous iPhone so however the many others before that

however the many others before that

however the many others before that right and that that transformative tools

right and that that transformative tools

right and that that transformative tools is what we need now in education as I

is what we need now in education as I

is what we need now in education as I said both in incremental innovation and

said both in incremental innovation and

said both in incremental innovation and transformative innovation are both

transformative innovation are both

transformative innovation are both extremely necessary and they complement

extremely necessary and they complement

extremely necessary and they complement each other but you can’t use one when

each other but you can’t use one when

each other but you can’t use one when you need the other one

you need the other one

you need the other one right that’s not going to work well so I

right that’s not going to work well so I

right that’s not going to work well so I think like the example I think it’s very

think like the example I think it’s very

think like the example I think it’s very illustrative here like if you were

illustrative here like if you were

illustrative here like if you were building a car you can keep improving it

building a car you can keep improving it

building a car you can keep improving it but at some point if you want to fly you

but at some point if you want to fly you

but at some point if you want to fly you want to start over you want to start

want to start over you want to start

want to start over you want to start from scratch

from scratch

from scratch I’m build a plane you don’t want to put

I’m build a plane you don’t want to put

I’m build a plane you don’t want to put wings to an existing car right and a lot

wings to an existing car right and a lot

wings to an existing car right and a lot of the technology surprisingly that

of the technology surprisingly that

of the technology surprisingly that we’re using nowadays is exactly this

we’re using nowadays is exactly this

we’re using nowadays is exactly this secondly you can ask about skill based

secondly you can ask about skill based

secondly you can ask about skill based learning right we said it was difficult

learning right we said it was difficult

learning right we said it was difficult to measure and if you evaluate but the

to measure and if you evaluate but the

to measure and if you evaluate but the school should be really thinking and put

school should be really thinking and put

school should be really thinking and put a lot of effort on how are they going to

a lot of effort on how are they going to

a lot of effort on how are they going to teach and evaluate skills you can ask

teach and evaluate skills you can ask

teach and evaluate skills you can ask for example whether your kids where do

for example whether your kids where do

for example whether your kids where do they stand on those skills right how

they stand on those skills right how

they stand on those skills right how good is my kid on teamwork and how good

good is my kid on teamwork and how good

good is my kid on teamwork and how good is in communication how are you dealing

is in communication how are you dealing

is in communication how are you dealing with it lastly I think the third

with it lastly I think the third

with it lastly I think the third question that you can ask is ask what

question that you can ask is ask what

question that you can ask is ask what they do with a non tech savvy teachers

they do with a non tech savvy teachers

they do with a non tech savvy teachers because like I have to say and is it

because like I have to say and is it

because like I have to say and is it this is important for me to say I have a

this is important for me to say I have a

this is important for me to say I have a huge respect for teachers huge and you

huge respect for teachers huge and you

huge respect for teachers huge and you know why I think we’re were there’s no

know why I think we’re were there’s no

know why I think we’re were there’s no other profession in the world right now

other profession in the world right now

other profession in the world right now that we’re asking them to reinvent

that we’re asking them to reinvent

that we’re asking them to reinvent themselves as much as we’re doing to

themselves as much as we’re doing to

themselves as much as we’re doing to teachers it’s just amazing we’re turning

teachers it’s just amazing we’re turning

teachers it’s just amazing we’re turning their profession upside down you said

their profession upside down you said

their profession upside down you said everything you learned before not okay

everything you learned before not okay

everything you learned before not okay now everything you were teaching before

now everything you were teaching before

now everything you were teaching before this the way you would teach you before

this the way you would teach you before

this the way you would teach you before different now where they’re asking

different now where they’re asking

different now where they’re asking afterwards how they’re measuring you are

afterwards how they’re measuring you are

afterwards how they’re measuring you are they evaluating you all completely

they evaluating you all completely

they evaluating you all completely different so um what are they going to

different so um what are they going to

different so um what are they going to do with those teachers right how do they

do with those teachers right how do they

do with those teachers right how do they train them to the just ignore them do

train them to the just ignore them do

train them to the just ignore them do they say oh I can teach them they’ve

they say oh I can teach them they’ve

they say oh I can teach them they’ve been here forever the answer to that is

been here forever the answer to that is

been here forever the answer to that is going to give you a lot of insight into

going to give you a lot of insight into

going to give you a lot of insight into how good that school or the institution

how good that school or the institution

how good that school or the institution deals with changing and adapting to the

deals with changing and adapting to the

deals with changing and adapting to the changes they’re in education sector

changes they’re in education sector

changes they’re in education sector nowadays so um

nowadays so um

nowadays so um lastly I wanted to give you a bit of an

lastly I wanted to give you a bit of an

lastly I wanted to give you a bit of an a personal opinion on what the next

a personal opinion on what the next

a personal opinion on what the next waves of innovation are going to look

waves of innovation are going to look

waves of innovation are going to look like well I’m first the first point and

like well I’m first the first point and

like well I’m first the first point and I call this prophecy time right is a

I call this prophecy time right is a

I call this prophecy time right is a network education right now we have

network education right now we have

network education right now we have occasion system which is a school it’s

occasion system which is a school it’s

occasion system which is a school it’s very school or institution centric and

very school or institution centric and

very school or institution centric and all the students go to law school and

all the students go to law school and

all the students go to law school and you’re part of that school and if you’re

you’re part of that school and if you’re

you’re part of that school and if you’re university you call it alma mater right

university you call it alma mater right

university you call it alma mater right it’s nearly a family it is a massive

it’s nearly a family it is a massive

it’s nearly a family it is a massive bomb and I think this is going to evolve

bomb and I think this is going to evolve

bomb and I think this is going to evolve towards a much more broadening our

towards a much more broadening our

towards a much more broadening our education system much more diverse and

education system much more diverse and

education system much more diverse and much

much

much inclusive of what we see in the real

inclusive of what we see in the real

inclusive of what we see in the real life I think them schools are going to

life I think them schools are going to

life I think them schools are going to include way more stakeholders for

include way more stakeholders for

include way more stakeholders for example you’re going to see more

example you’re going to see more

example you’re going to see more companies part of schools teaching

companies part of schools teaching

companies part of schools teaching something collaborating asking for

something collaborating asking for

something collaborating asking for projects the way they do in university

projects the way they do in university

projects the way they do in university why not at a younger age

why not at a younger age

why not at a younger age you’re going to have courses from

you’re going to have courses from

you’re going to have courses from different places so you’re in school you

different places so you’re in school you

different places so you’re in school you might have a lesson with your teacher

might have a lesson with your teacher

might have a lesson with your teacher but maybe the next lesson you do from a

but maybe the next lesson you do from a

but maybe the next lesson you do from a picture in Singapore which is doing it

picture in Singapore which is doing it

picture in Singapore which is doing it online and maybe the next project you do

online and maybe the next project you do

online and maybe the next project you do collaboratively with other kids around

collaboratively with other kids around

collaboratively with other kids around the world because why wouldn’t you you

the world because why wouldn’t you you

the world because why wouldn’t you you live in the world you don’t live in

live in the world you don’t live in

live in the world you don’t live in Barcelona Catalonia Spain Europe you

Barcelona Catalonia Spain Europe you

Barcelona Catalonia Spain Europe you live in the world and why not start like

live in the world and why not start like

live in the world and why not start like that right that culturalization that

that right that culturalization that

that right that culturalization that damn that adapting to life to real life

damn that adapting to life to real life

damn that adapting to life to real life should be as real as possible and I

should be as real as possible and I

should be as real as possible and I think they’ve been a bit detached right

think they’ve been a bit detached right

think they’ve been a bit detached right like school from what we see in the real

like school from what we see in the real

like school from what we see in the real world around the friends about online

world around the friends about online

world around the friends about online about even how we relate and how we find

about even how we relate and how we find

about even how we relate and how we find partners nowadays with online dating

partners nowadays with online dating

partners nowadays with online dating right everything’s changed a lot I think

right everything’s changed a lot I think

right everything’s changed a lot I think schools are going to still exist

schools are going to still exist

schools are going to still exist but they’re going to be more diverse

but they’re going to be more diverse

but they’re going to be more diverse more open spaces I call them call

more open spaces I call them call

more open spaces I call them call education spaces kind of mirroring a

education spaces kind of mirroring a

education spaces kind of mirroring a little bit of co-working spaces that we

little bit of co-working spaces that we

little bit of co-working spaces that we find an entrepreneurship environment we

find an entrepreneurship environment we

find an entrepreneurship environment we can see startups or the the new way of

can see startups or the the new way of

can see startups or the the new way of co-working and all those new working

co-working and all those new working

co-working and all those new working kind of trends right now are

kind of trends right now are

kind of trends right now are transforming the more legacy or

transforming the more legacy or

transforming the more legacy or traditional legacy corporate life the

traditional legacy corporate life the

traditional legacy corporate life the same way I think is going to happen in

same way I think is going to happen in

same way I think is going to happen in education so I think those schools will

education so I think those schools will

education so I think those schools will have you’ll see people collaborating and

have you’ll see people collaborating and

have you’ll see people collaborating and taking lessons both online and presents

taking lessons both online and presents

taking lessons both online and presents I think you’ll see companies coming and

I think you’ll see companies coming and

I think you’ll see companies coming and doing workshops and doing and analyzing

doing workshops and doing and analyzing

doing workshops and doing and analyzing and understanding better different

and understanding better different

and understanding better different things I think people going to do

things I think people going to do

things I think people going to do projects there’s going to be a lot of

projects there’s going to be a lot of

projects there’s going to be a lot of games and social activities as well

games and social activities as well

games and social activities as well remember education it’s not only about

remember education it’s not only about

remember education it’s not only about knowledge it’s about motor skills about

knowledge it’s about motor skills about

knowledge it’s about motor skills about attitude in life is about a

attitude in life is about a

attitude in life is about a culturalization into life so I think

culturalization into life so I think

culturalization into life so I think schools are going to be much more

schools are going to be much more

schools are going to be much more attractive and much more interesting in

attractive and much more interesting in

attractive and much more interesting in a couple decades and lately we mentioned

a couple decades and lately we mentioned

a couple decades and lately we mentioned how hard evaluation is right the OECD

how hard evaluation is right the OECD

how hard evaluation is right the OECD brandston is one of the main problems of

brandston is one of the main problems of

brandston is one of the main problems of the new technology environment that we

the new technology environment that we

the new technology environment that we want to set so I think the companies

want to set so I think the companies

want to set so I think the companies that are demanding those skills from us

that are demanding those skills from us

that are demanding those skills from us why we said that economy economists

why we said that economy economists

why we said that economy economists study before why do they not train us on

study before why do they not train us on

study before why do they not train us on the

the

the skills they’re asking for and why do

skills they’re asking for and why do

skills they’re asking for and why do they not certify in the skills they’re

they not certify in the skills they’re

they not certify in the skills they’re most known for for example if you’re

most known for for example if you’re

most known for for example if you’re learning about fashion or operation so

learning about fashion or operation so

learning about fashion or operation so processes maybe Zara can give you a

processes maybe Zara can give you a

processes maybe Zara can give you a really good training and certify you in

really good training and certify you in

really good training and certify you in it maybe you’re working about innovation

it maybe you’re working about innovation

it maybe you’re working about innovation and work working collaboratively and

and work working collaboratively and

and work working collaboratively and things like that Google can give you a

things like that Google can give you a

things like that Google can give you a great certification same as digital

great certification same as digital

great certification same as digital marketing which we already do if you’re

marketing which we already do if you’re

marketing which we already do if you’re doing fashion Nike or sports and seem

doing fashion Nike or sports and seem

doing fashion Nike or sports and seem like that maybe Nike Cola these

like that maybe Nike Cola these

like that maybe Nike Cola these companies can do and all that applies to

companies can do and all that applies to

companies can do and all that applies to all the humanities as well I’m just more

all the humanities as well I’m just more

all the humanities as well I’m just more of a techie person somewhere closer to

of a techie person somewhere closer to

of a techie person somewhere closer to that world right but everything could be

that world right but everything could be

that world right but everything could be more related more immersed in what life

more related more immersed in what life

more related more immersed in what life really is and that comes back to what

really is and that comes back to what

really is and that comes back to what education looks like in the tribes in in

education looks like in the tribes in in

education looks like in the tribes in in Africa or other more remote places where

Africa or other more remote places where

Africa or other more remote places where they’re not that developed and they

they’re not that developed and they

they’re not that developed and they think the whole tribe is responsible for

think the whole tribe is responsible for

think the whole tribe is responsible for the education of every single kid

the education of every single kid

the education of every single kid frequently you know they all feel like

frequently you know they all feel like

frequently you know they all feel like parents of the kids of the tribe and I

parents of the kids of the tribe and I

parents of the kids of the tribe and I think we’ve lost a lot of that with

think we’ve lost a lot of that with

think we’ve lost a lot of that with detached from our human side in the

detached from our human side in the

detached from our human side in the education system because we’ve made it

education system because we’ve made it

education system because we’ve made it like a factory right Ken Robinson talks

like a factory right Ken Robinson talks

like a factory right Ken Robinson talks about that really really well and I

about that really really well and I

about that really really well and I think we as we develop our and we

think we as we develop our and we

think we as we develop our and we transform education system we should

transform education system we should

transform education system we should reach out for that human side and

reach out for that human side and

reach out for that human side and connect the oldest stakeholders in

connect the oldest stakeholders in

connect the oldest stakeholders in society so that we all feel responsible

society so that we all feel responsible

society so that we all feel responsible and be kind that come back comes back to

and be kind that come back comes back to

and be kind that come back comes back to you guys as well we all feel responsible

you guys as well we all feel responsible

you guys as well we all feel responsible for the next generation of human beings

for the next generation of human beings

for the next generation of human beings here so that’s about it and to the

here so that’s about it and to the

here so that’s about it and to the question will the schools exist 50 years

question will the schools exist 50 years

question will the schools exist 50 years from now I think they will but I think

from now I think they will but I think

from now I think they will but I think they’ll they look very different than

they’ll they look very different than

they’ll they look very different than they do now and maybe they’re not even

they do now and maybe they’re not even

they do now and maybe they’re not even cold schools thank you very much

cold schools thank you very much

cold schools thank you very much [Applause]

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