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Art for the Public | Tony Tasset | TEDxUofIChicago


so I’m here to talk a little bit about

so I’m here to talk a little bit about public art and I’m going to show you I’m

public art and I’m going to show you I’m

public art and I’m going to show you I’m also going to show you a few examples of

also going to show you a few examples of

also going to show you a few examples of some of my favorite public art it’s all

some of my favorite public art it’s all

some of my favorite public art it’s all happens to be done by me but just

happens to be done by me but just

happens to be done by me but just coincidentally but first of all so what

coincidentally but first of all so what

coincidentally but first of all so what is public art I’ve done a lot of

is public art I’ve done a lot of

is public art I’ve done a lot of research on this meaning I looked it up

research on this meaning I looked it up

research on this meaning I looked it up on Wikipedia before this talk and in in

on Wikipedia before this talk and in in

on Wikipedia before this talk and in in general public artists all it really

general public artists all it really

general public artists all it really says is that it’s art that’s been

says is that it’s art that’s been

says is that it’s art that’s been planned and is staged for a public space

planned and is staged for a public space

planned and is staged for a public space and it said that’s Akama accessible to

and it said that’s Akama accessible to

and it said that’s Akama accessible to all end quote

all end quote

all end quote so it’s that part of accessible at all

so it’s that part of accessible at all

so it’s that part of accessible at all that I want to talk about I think they

that I want to talk about I think they

that I want to talk about I think they mean a location which is certainly true

mean a location which is certainly true

mean a location which is certainly true but I also started to think that

but I also started to think that

but I also started to think that accessibility was also a kind of a

accessibility was also a kind of a

accessibility was also a kind of a visual language it really does talk

visual language it really does talk

visual language it really does talk about how to speak to the public and

about how to speak to the public and

about how to speak to the public and I’ll explain that a little bit as I go

I’ll explain that a little bit as I go

I’ll explain that a little bit as I go on so keep thinking about this idea of

on so keep thinking about this idea of

on so keep thinking about this idea of public art public art if there’s public

public art public art if there’s public

public art public art if there’s public art there must conversely be private art

art there must conversely be private art

art there must conversely be private art nobody really I don’t know that term

nobody really I don’t know that term

nobody really I don’t know that term private art sounds dirty

private art sounds dirty

private art sounds dirty doesn’t it private art what I’ve been

doesn’t it private art what I’ve been

doesn’t it private art what I’ve been thinking about this and I think I know

thinking about this and I think I know

thinking about this and I think I know what private art is so let me just this

what private art is so let me just this

what private art is so let me just this is supposed to be about our origins

is supposed to be about our origins

is supposed to be about our origins tonight I don’t think I was as an

tonight I don’t think I was as an

tonight I don’t think I was as an exceptional child there’s a lot of our

exceptional child there’s a lot of our

exceptional child there’s a lot of our speakers my origin story is I was raised

speakers my origin story is I was raised

speakers my origin story is I was raised in suburbs of Cincinnati and I grew up

in suburbs of Cincinnati and I grew up

in suburbs of Cincinnati and I grew up drawing I think a lot of kids draw I

drawing I think a lot of kids draw I

drawing I think a lot of kids draw I just never stopped so I just drew and

just never stopped so I just drew and

just never stopped so I just drew and watch television basically now

this is how I’m going to do this the

this is how I’m going to do this the rest of the talk this is a performance

rest of the talk this is a performance

rest of the talk this is a performance now so anyway that’s what I did growing

now so anyway that’s what I did growing

now so anyway that’s what I did growing up and then eventually it seemed like I

up and then eventually it seemed like I

up and then eventually it seemed like I was very happy drawing watching

was very happy drawing watching

was very happy drawing watching television until finally it seemed like

television until finally it seemed like

television until finally it seemed like it was time to either go to Hollywood or

it was time to either go to Hollywood or

it was time to either go to Hollywood or college and I decided to do the more

college and I decided to do the more

college and I decided to do the more practical thing I went to college to get

practical thing I went to college to get

practical thing I went to college to get to get a degree in art a very practical

to get a degree in art a very practical

to get a degree in art a very practical decision so I went to as was said I got

decision so I went to as was said I got

decision so I went to as was said I got my bachelor’s degree and then I came to

my bachelor’s degree and then I came to

my bachelor’s degree and then I came to Chicago and got my master’s degree and

Chicago and got my master’s degree and

Chicago and got my master’s degree and in college and in graduate school I

in college and in graduate school I

in college and in graduate school I really fell in love with art and I mean

really fell in love with art and I mean

really fell in love with art and I mean the whole history of it the theories

the whole history of it the theories

the whole history of it the theories behind it modern art and contemporary

behind it modern art and contemporary

behind it modern art and contemporary art and there I learned all the isms

art and there I learned all the isms

art and there I learned all the isms meaning Abstract Expressionism modernism

meaning Abstract Expressionism modernism

meaning Abstract Expressionism modernism neo Expressionism I could go on and on

neo Expressionism I could go on and on

neo Expressionism I could go on and on and on post-modernism of course and I

and on post-modernism of course and I

and on post-modernism of course and I loved that all that info and I continued

loved that all that info and I continued

loved that all that info and I continued to love that information and I continued

to love that information and I continued

to love that information and I continued to learn about it but I think that’s

to learn about it but I think that’s

to learn about it but I think that’s what private art is I think it is what I

what private art is I think it is what I

what private art is I think it is what I learned in school and what I’ve been

learned in school and what I’ve been

learned in school and what I’ve been teaching for the last 28 years

teaching for the last 28 years

teaching for the last 28 years meaning hey I went to school for six

meaning hey I went to school for six

meaning hey I went to school for six years I’ve been teaching this no problem

years I’ve been teaching this no problem

years I’ve been teaching this no problem with that sort of specialized language

with that sort of specialized language

with that sort of specialized language except all of a sudden when I started to

except all of a sudden when I started to

except all of a sudden when I started to have the opportunity to make public art

have the opportunity to make public art

have the opportunity to make public art I don’t know I began to question that a

I don’t know I began to question that a

I don’t know I began to question that a little bit that maybe there was

little bit that maybe there was

little bit that maybe there was something different between what I call

something different between what I call

something different between what I call private art what I learned in school and

private art what I learned in school and

private art what I learned in school and public art what I was then you know

public art what I was then you know

public art what I was then you know asked to do so in public private art can

asked to do so in public private art can

asked to do so in public private art can be subversive it can be anti esthetical

be subversive it can be anti esthetical

be subversive it can be anti esthetical it can be critical it can be dirty right

it can be critical it can be dirty right

it can be critical it can be dirty right so even I just to give you an example of

so even I just to give you an example of

so even I just to give you an example of something this is a photograph I made in

something this is a photograph I made in

something this is a photograph I made in 1994 it’s life-size and it’s called I

1994 it’s life-size and it’s called I

1994 it’s life-size and it’s called I peed in my pants and

peed in my pants and

peed in my pants and and I did okay and so this is a good

and I did okay and so this is a good

and I did okay and so this is a good example of what I would call maybe

example of what I would call maybe

example of what I would call maybe private art meaning it is art that is

private art meaning it is art that is

private art meaning it is art that is transgressive I don’t want to get into

transgressive I don’t want to get into

transgressive I don’t want to get into too much about what I was thinking about

too much about what I was thinking about

too much about what I was thinking about it’s a very deep psychological piece

it’s a very deep psychological piece

it’s a very deep psychological piece about kind of desire and sort of wanting

about kind of desire and sort of wanting

about kind of desire and sort of wanting approval but being in control of that at

approval but being in control of that at

approval but being in control of that at the same time it’s my transgressive

the same time it’s my transgressive

the same time it’s my transgressive gesture so this is I was thinking about

gesture so this is I was thinking about

gesture so this is I was thinking about a lot of things but I would not call

a lot of things but I would not call

a lot of things but I would not call this public art you know what I mean so

this public art you know what I mean so

this public art you know what I mean so I just want to show that as a kind of an

I just want to show that as a kind of an

I just want to show that as a kind of an example of other stuff that I’ve done so

example of other stuff that I’ve done so

example of other stuff that I’ve done so before I really had this opportunity to

before I really had this opportunity to

before I really had this opportunity to make public art you know I’ve been

make public art you know I’ve been

make public art you know I’ve been making art for 20 years I’ve been

making art for 20 years I’ve been

making art for 20 years I’ve been showing in galleries and museums I know

showing in galleries and museums I know

showing in galleries and museums I know you’re saying wait a minute that’s

you’re saying wait a minute that’s

you’re saying wait a minute that’s public too you go to a gallery or you go

public too you go to a gallery or you go

public too you go to a gallery or you go to a museum you’re going to be

to a museum you’re going to be

to a museum you’re going to be confronted by art you’re going there to

confronted by art you’re going there to

confronted by art you’re going there to be confounded it’s not exactly the same

be confounded it’s not exactly the same

be confounded it’s not exactly the same public art is something you sort of bump

public art is something you sort of bump

public art is something you sort of bump into on your way to work right it’s not

into on your way to work right it’s not

into on your way to work right it’s not a destination it’s actually something

a destination it’s actually something

a destination it’s actually something you encounter bla bla bla

you encounter bla bla bla

you encounter bla bla bla okay so I got this opportunity a little

okay so I got this opportunity a little

okay so I got this opportunity a little over a dozen years ago to make a piece

over a dozen years ago to make a piece

over a dozen years ago to make a piece for Pittsburgh and started thinking

for Pittsburgh and started thinking

for Pittsburgh and started thinking public art that’s a little different you

public art that’s a little different you

public art that’s a little different you know it was intimidating making

know it was intimidating making

know it was intimidating making something that really speaks to an

something that really speaks to an

something that really speaks to an audience and these are not temporary

audience and these are not temporary

audience and these are not temporary pieces these are permanent pieces so I

pieces these are permanent pieces so I

pieces these are permanent pieces so I started to research Chicago’s got a lot

started to research Chicago’s got a lot

started to research Chicago’s got a lot of great public art started looking at a

of great public art started looking at a

of great public art started looking at a lot of the art in Chicago and other

lot of the art in Chicago and other

lot of the art in Chicago and other places and I’m going to say there are

places and I’m going to say there are

places and I’m going to say there are two main categories and this is a gross

two main categories and this is a gross

two main categories and this is a gross generalization but it’s fun for

generalization but it’s fun for

generalization but it’s fun for discussion one category of public art

discussion one category of public art

discussion one category of public art let’s call it the classical heroic

let’s call it the classical heroic

let’s call it the classical heroic sculpture and you know what these are

sculpture and you know what these are

sculpture and you know what these are they’re fairly realistic often bronze

they’re fairly realistic often bronze

they’re fairly realistic often bronze sometimes stone realistic portrait

sometimes stone realistic portrait

sometimes stone realistic portrait statue of a dead white man and there are

statue of a dead white man and there are

statue of a dead white man and there are lots of these around founding fathers

lots of these around founding fathers

lots of these around founding fathers are very popular Illinois there are lots

are very popular Illinois there are lots

are very popular Illinois there are lots of Abraham Lincoln sculptures we all

of Abraham Lincoln sculptures we all

of Abraham Lincoln sculptures we all know that actually a true fact there are

know that actually a true fact there are

know that actually a true fact there are as many Lincoln sculptures in Illinois

as many Lincoln sculptures in Illinois

as many Lincoln sculptures in Illinois as they are

as they are

as they are books coffee that’s a true fact no it’s

books coffee that’s a true fact no it’s

books coffee that’s a true fact no it’s not that’s kiss so anyway but that’s the

not that’s kiss so anyway but that’s the

not that’s kiss so anyway but that’s the genre right and you know that you know

genre right and you know that you know

genre right and you know that you know the it was so quiet I thought you

the it was so quiet I thought you

the it was so quiet I thought you believed and so you know that kind of

believed and so you know that kind of

believed and so you know that kind of sculpture that of course the most famous

sculpture that of course the most famous

sculpture that of course the most famous is the Lincoln Memorial in that genre

is the Lincoln Memorial in that genre

is the Lincoln Memorial in that genre women in this category don’t do quite as

women in this category don’t do quite as

women in this category don’t do quite as well they’re not really real people per

well they’re not really real people per

well they’re not really real people per se they’re more they’re more like

se they’re more they’re more like

se they’re more they’re more like virtues like blind justice or the most

virtues like blind justice or the most

virtues like blind justice or the most famous

famous

famous Statue of Liberty not a real person but

Statue of Liberty not a real person but

Statue of Liberty not a real person but still an icon and you know with all the

still an icon and you know with all the

still an icon and you know with all the problems of those pieces meaning there’s

problems of those pieces meaning there’s

problems of those pieces meaning there’s racism and sexism that’s sort of

racism and sexism that’s sort of

racism and sexism that’s sort of implicit in in part of that history but

implicit in in part of that history but

implicit in in part of that history but I did admire those works ability to

I did admire those works ability to

I did admire those works ability to speak to a wide audience you don’t have

speak to a wide audience you don’t have

speak to a wide audience you don’t have to know anything to experience them and

to know anything to experience them and

to know anything to experience them and heck even the Statue of Liberty tells

heck even the Statue of Liberty tells

heck even the Statue of Liberty tells you what it’s about right on the bottom

you what it’s about right on the bottom

you what it’s about right on the bottom so there’s no mystery the second

so there’s no mystery the second

so there’s no mystery the second category the second category I would

category the second category I would

category the second category I would call the modernist abstraction right and

call the modernist abstraction right and

call the modernist abstraction right and you know what I’m talking about it’s so

you know what I’m talking about it’s so

you know what I’m talking about it’s so radical it’s fabulous everything I’ve

radical it’s fabulous everything I’ve

radical it’s fabulous everything I’ve been talking about is sort of all of

been talking about is sort of all of

been talking about is sort of all of history and then all of a sudden 20th

history and then all of a sudden 20th

history and then all of a sudden 20th century we have modernism and

century we have modernism and

century we have modernism and abstraction and these are the big steel

abstraction and these are the big steel

abstraction and these are the big steel let’s call the heavy metal sculptures

let’s call the heavy metal sculptures

let’s call the heavy metal sculptures steel welded steel you know I’m going to

steel welded steel you know I’m going to

steel welded steel you know I’m going to do impressions of them now they’re like

do impressions of them now they’re like

do impressions of them now they’re like I beams you know a lot of I beams bright

I beams you know a lot of I beams bright

I beams you know a lot of I beams bright colors orange is popular I’m not showing

colors orange is popular I’m not showing

colors orange is popular I’m not showing you these sculptures because you know

you these sculptures because you know

you these sculptures because you know what I’m talking about and this is my

what I’m talking about and this is my

what I’m talking about and this is my TED talk so and I thought as fabulous as

TED talk so and I thought as fabulous as

TED talk so and I thought as fabulous as a lot of that art is and of course I’m

a lot of that art is and of course I’m

a lot of that art is and of course I’m bringing it all together it’s like it’s

bringing it all together it’s like it’s

bringing it all together it’s like it’s even if it was radical at one time

even if it was radical at one time

even if it was radical at one time imagine think of all the sculptures you

imagine think of all the sculptures you

imagine think of all the sculptures you walk past in shopping malls and

walk past in shopping malls and

walk past in shopping malls and libraries and that are these generic

libraries and that are these generic

libraries and that are these generic metal welded steel rocker that it’s just

metal welded steel rocker that it’s just

metal welded steel rocker that it’s just they’re just too many of them they lost

they’re just too many of them they lost

they’re just too many of them they lost the radicality to me so those are the

the radicality to me so those are the

the radicality to me so those are the two categories blah blah blah so finally

two categories blah blah blah so finally

two categories blah blah blah so finally I had my opportunity to make this piece

I had my opportunity to make this piece

I had my opportunity to make this piece in Pittsburgh and I kind of went with

in Pittsburgh and I kind of went with

in Pittsburgh and I kind of went with the classical model but I wasn’t going

the classical model but I wasn’t going

the classical model but I wasn’t going to deal with the figure this is a it’s a

to deal with the figure this is a it’s a

to deal with the figure this is a it’s a little hard to see in the life but this

little hard to see in the life but this

little hard to see in the life but this is a bronze magnolia tree this is a

is a bronze magnolia tree this is a

is a bronze magnolia tree this is a magnolia tree that I sculpted hand

magnolia tree that I sculpted hand

magnolia tree that I sculpted hand sculpted then had a cast and bronze cast

sculpted then had a cast and bronze cast

sculpted then had a cast and bronze cast twice painted realistically and I put it

twice painted realistically and I put it

twice painted realistically and I put it in a little grove of five real magnolia

in a little grove of five real magnolia

in a little grove of five real magnolia trees so so this is a real tree and this

trees so so this is a real tree and this

trees so so this is a real tree and this is any excuse I got it wrong this is the

is any excuse I got it wrong this is the

is any excuse I got it wrong this is the real tree and this is the bronze right

real tree and this is the bronze right

real tree and this is the bronze right so it’s this little fairy tale magic

so it’s this little fairy tale magic

so it’s this little fairy tale magic moment the bronzes matches the real

moment the bronzes matches the real

moment the bronzes matches the real trees for just a couple of weeks out of

trees for just a couple of weeks out of

trees for just a couple of weeks out of the year and then the rest of the time

the year and then the rest of the time

the year and then the rest of the time it’s more of a you know it’s this sort

it’s more of a you know it’s this sort

it’s more of a you know it’s this sort of surprise this is it and winter so

of surprise this is it and winter so

of surprise this is it and winter so those are all bronze that’s just

those are all bronze that’s just

those are all bronze that’s just something I got off the internet it’s a

something I got off the internet it’s a

something I got off the internet it’s a funny which I’m going to talk about that

funny which I’m going to talk about that

funny which I’m going to talk about that in a second it’s a funny thing about

in a second it’s a funny thing about

in a second it’s a funny thing about this piece is that I didn’t really

this piece is that I didn’t really

this piece is that I didn’t really expect is people did kind of walk past

expect is people did kind of walk past

expect is people did kind of walk past it they didn’t necessarily register it

it they didn’t necessarily register it

it they didn’t necessarily register it right away because I think people don’t

right away because I think people don’t

right away because I think people don’t once they think something they stop

once they think something they stop

once they think something they stop looking so they saw these trees thought

looking so they saw these trees thought

looking so they saw these trees thought they were real and kept going so it

they were real and kept going so it

they were real and kept going so it becomes almost like an insider thing

becomes almost like an insider thing

becomes almost like an insider thing after a while or maybe you would

after a while or maybe you would

after a while or maybe you would recognize later that night you’re like

recognize later that night you’re like

recognize later that night you’re like wait a minute

wait a minute

wait a minute it’s winter why is that tree blooming so

it’s winter why is that tree blooming so

it’s winter why is that tree blooming so anyway that was that piece and my next

anyway that was that piece and my next

anyway that was that piece and my next piece I didn’t want people to just walk

piece I didn’t want people to just walk

piece I didn’t want people to just walk by it so this is a piece in Dallas Texas

by it so this is a piece in Dallas Texas

by it so this is a piece in Dallas Texas it’s called I it’s 30 feet in diameter

it’s called I it’s 30 feet in diameter

it’s called I it’s 30 feet in diameter and here I’m going back to nature again

and here I’m going back to nature again

and here I’m going back to nature again but instead of this little fairy tale

but instead of this little fairy tale

but instead of this little fairy tale moment it’s a little more of a nightmare

moment it’s a little more of a nightmare

moment it’s a little more of a nightmare maybe still thinking about nature but

maybe still thinking about nature but

maybe still thinking about nature but instead of nature as this sort of symbol

instead of nature as this sort of symbol

instead of nature as this sort of symbol it’s more about the psychological the

it’s more about the psychological the

it’s more about the psychological the eye is this you know it’s one of the

eye is this you know it’s one of the

eye is this you know it’s one of the most used symbols in the world there’s

most used symbols in the world there’s

most used symbols in the world there’s the Pharaohs eye the eye on the Masonic

the Pharaohs eye the eye on the Masonic

the Pharaohs eye the eye on the Masonic dollar there’s the you know it’s also

dollar there’s the you know it’s also

dollar there’s the you know it’s also just cool it’s a big bloody eyeball it’s

just cool it’s a big bloody eyeball it’s

just cool it’s a big bloody eyeball it’s like I think if you look at my high

like I think if you look at my high

like I think if you look at my high school you know your book or my

school you know your book or my

school you know your book or my uh schoolbooks they probably had you

uh schoolbooks they probably had you

uh schoolbooks they probably had you know flaming eyeballs in the in the

know flaming eyeballs in the in the

know flaming eyeballs in the in the margins you know in ballpoint pen

margins you know in ballpoint pen

margins you know in ballpoint pen there’s people doing me yoga in front of

there’s people doing me yoga in front of

there’s people doing me yoga in front of the eye I also got this off the internet

the eye I also got this off the internet

the eye I also got this off the internet I wanted to say just about that about

I wanted to say just about that about

I wanted to say just about that about that this internet these images because

that this internet these images because

that this internet these images because even though like I’m an old-timey I feel

even though like I’m an old-timey I feel

even though like I’m an old-timey I feel so old here tonight with all this great

so old here tonight with all this great

so old here tonight with all this great technology but so I make these you know

technology but so I make these you know

technology but so I make these you know plop sculptures but I know we live in

plop sculptures but I know we live in

plop sculptures but I know we live in this digital world in this world of

this digital world in this world of

this digital world in this world of communication so one way my works live

communication so one way my works live

communication so one way my works live beyond have a second life is they are

beyond have a second life is they are

beyond have a second life is they are these kind of magnets for selfies you

these kind of magnets for selfies you

these kind of magnets for selfies you know and so if you look at any of these

know and so if you look at any of these

know and so if you look at any of these pieces on Instagram this literally gets

pieces on Instagram this literally gets

pieces on Instagram this literally gets something every week some on and it’s

something every week some on and it’s

something every week some on and it’s been up for a few years this is a piece

been up for a few years this is a piece

been up for a few years this is a piece it’s called Paul this is governor state

it’s called Paul this is governor state

it’s called Paul this is governor state sculpture park just south of here I made

sculpture park just south of here I made

sculpture park just south of here I made this piece short well we had already

this piece short well we had already

this piece short well we had already been in Iraq for a little over a year

been in Iraq for a little over a year

been in Iraq for a little over a year and it was appearing to be wherever

and it was appearing to be wherever

and it was appearing to be wherever there was out there was a feeling that

there was out there was a feeling that

there was out there was a feeling that we were entering a quagmire you know

we were entering a quagmire you know

we were entering a quagmire you know this is not this was not a short shock

this is not this was not a short shock

this is not this was not a short shock and all this was something that was

and all this was something that was

and all this was something that was going to last and of course it has

going to last and of course it has

going to last and of course it has and everybody knows Paul Bunyan it’s a

and everybody knows Paul Bunyan it’s a

and everybody knows Paul Bunyan it’s a you know I use things that are already

you know I use things that are already

you know I use things that are already familiar icons icons so there are lots

familiar icons icons so there are lots

familiar icons icons so there are lots of Paul Bunyan sculptures Paul Bunyan

of Paul Bunyan sculptures Paul Bunyan

of Paul Bunyan sculptures Paul Bunyan he’s usually this young guy broad

he’s usually this young guy broad

he’s usually this young guy broad shoulders you know axe on his shoulder

shoulders you know axe on his shoulder

shoulders you know axe on his shoulder he might have bathed this blue ox his

he might have bathed this blue ox his

he might have bathed this blue ox his buddy with him I just thought what would

buddy with him I just thought what would

buddy with him I just thought what would happen and I always thought of that

happen and I always thought of that

happen and I always thought of that character as a kind of like a figure of

character as a kind of like a figure of

character as a kind of like a figure of manifest destiny or a sense of American

manifest destiny or a sense of American

manifest destiny or a sense of American exceptionalism a symbol of that and I

exceptionalism a symbol of that and I

exceptionalism a symbol of that and I thought what would happen if Paul got a

thought what would happen if Paul got a

thought what would happen if Paul got a little older maybe he had a little

little older maybe he had a little

little older maybe he had a little regret in life maybe he’s worse babe the

regret in life maybe he’s worse babe the

regret in life maybe he’s worse babe the Blue Ox he’s in a funk I don’t know so I

Blue Ox he’s in a funk I don’t know so I

Blue Ox he’s in a funk I don’t know so I thought about you know just giving him

thought about you know just giving him

thought about you know just giving him basically making Paul grow up and he’s

basically making Paul grow up and he’s

basically making Paul grow up and he’s also 30 feet tall you see little figure

also 30 feet tall you see little figure

also 30 feet tall you see little figure there to give it scale I was thinking

there to give it scale I was thinking

there to give it scale I was thinking about I mean it sounds pretentious but

about I mean it sounds pretentious but

about I mean it sounds pretentious but I’m thinking about Michelangelo and King

I’m thinking about Michelangelo and King

I’m thinking about Michelangelo and King Lear

Lear

Lear and and Walt Disney this is called

and and Walt Disney this is called

and and Walt Disney this is called rainbow it’s for Sony it said so I was

rainbow it’s for Sony it said so I was

rainbow it’s for Sony it said so I was invited to do something at Sony

invited to do something at Sony

invited to do something at Sony Entertainment and Culver City Sony

Entertainment and Culver City Sony

Entertainment and Culver City Sony Entertainment is where the old MGM grand

Entertainment is where the old MGM grand

Entertainment is where the old MGM grand studios were so it’s this historic movie

studios were so it’s this historic movie

studios were so it’s this historic movie set or studio a lot it’s where Citizen

set or studio a lot it’s where Citizen

set or studio a lot it’s where Citizen Kane was filmed it’s where gone with the

Kane was filmed it’s where gone with the

Kane was filmed it’s where gone with the wind was filmed and it’s where The

wind was filmed and it’s where The

wind was filmed and it’s where The Wizard of Oz was filmed allow the the

Wizard of Oz was filmed allow the the

Wizard of Oz was filmed allow the the this thing is it’s almost 100 feet tall

this thing is it’s almost 100 feet tall

this thing is it’s almost 100 feet tall by 200 feet wide and it really does

by 200 feet wide and it really does

by 200 feet wide and it really does become kind of an icon for Culver City

become kind of an icon for Culver City

become kind of an icon for Culver City this piece is a little different uh it

this piece is a little different uh it

this piece is a little different uh it operates a little differently I think

operates a little differently I think

operates a little differently I think it’s not as public you know what this is

it’s not as public you know what this is

it’s not as public you know what this is instead of let me see how I can say this

instead of let me see how I can say this

instead of let me see how I can say this instead of making a public work of art

instead of making a public work of art

instead of making a public work of art this is a work that makes art public and

this is a work that makes art public and

this is a work that makes art public and what I mean by that is this is called

what I mean by that is this is called

what I mean by that is this is called the artist Monument and it’s 80 feet by

the artist Monument and it’s 80 feet by

the artist Monument and it’s 80 feet by 8 feet by 8 feet tall and around all

8 feet by 8 feet tall and around all

8 feet by 8 feet tall and around all four sides it is it’s acrylic panels and

four sides it is it’s acrylic panels and

four sides it is it’s acrylic panels and it’s etched with the names of almost

it’s etched with the names of almost

it’s etched with the names of almost 400,000 modern and contemporary artists

400,000 modern and contemporary artists

400,000 modern and contemporary artists so it’s it’s hard to explain it’s in

so it’s it’s hard to explain it’s in

so it’s it’s hard to explain it’s in alphabetical order it’s hard to explain

alphabetical order it’s hard to explain

alphabetical order it’s hard to explain how thorough it is how big that is but

how thorough it is how big that is but

how thorough it is how big that is but we’re in this era of big data so I was

we’re in this era of big data so I was

we’re in this era of big data so I was able to to collect this data in a way

able to to collect this data in a way

able to to collect this data in a way that’s never been able before and so the

that’s never been able before and so the

that’s never been able before and so the most famous you know Picasso Warhol

most famous you know Picasso Warhol

most famous you know Picasso Warhol Georgia O’Keeffe they’re right next to

Georgia O’Keeffe they’re right next to

Georgia O’Keeffe they’re right next to you know Joe Blow who’s never done it

you know Joe Blow who’s never done it

you know Joe Blow who’s never done it who’s had one show 15 years ago at a

who’s had one show 15 years ago at a

who’s had one show 15 years ago at a university gallery they’re in there at

university gallery they’re in there at

university gallery they’re in there at the same you know same point up and it’s

the same you know same point up and it’s

the same you know same point up and it’s been a great piece because people come

been a great piece because people come

been a great piece because people come and it’s you know they come and they

and it’s you know they come and they

and it’s you know they come and they find their relatives or they find

find their relatives or they find

find their relatives or they find themselves on it so obviously I’m

themselves on it so obviously I’m

themselves on it so obviously I’m riffing on something like the Vietnam

riffing on something like the Vietnam

riffing on something like the Vietnam Memorial and other memorials those

Memorial and other memorials those

Memorial and other memorials those pieces usually you know they’re

pieces usually you know they’re

pieces usually you know they’re memorializing a tragedy in a way right

memorializing a tragedy in a way right

memorializing a tragedy in a way right maybe heroic event but still a tragedy I

maybe heroic event but still a tragedy I

maybe heroic event but still a tragedy I thought it’d be interesting

thought it’d be interesting

thought it’d be interesting to memorialize or to make a monument to

to memorialize or to make a monument to

to memorialize or to make a monument to creativity to something I don’t want to

creativity to something I don’t want to

creativity to something I don’t want to say necessarily more positive but

say necessarily more positive but

say necessarily more positive but something different and also it’s I

something different and also it’s I

something different and also it’s I guess why that’s all I want to say just

guess why that’s all I want to say just

guess why that’s all I want to say just to bring art bring art to the public

to bring art bring art to the public

to bring art bring art to the public this is the last piece I’ll show you I

this is the last piece I’ll show you I

this is the last piece I’ll show you I finally had the guts to make something

finally had the guts to make something

finally had the guts to make something figurative and this is a this is going

figurative and this is a this is going

figurative and this is a this is going to this is a piece that’s in progress I

to this is a piece that’s in progress I

to this is a piece that’s in progress I go next week to sort of pitch it to a

go next week to sort of pitch it to a

go next week to sort of pitch it to a it’s a Women’s and Children’s Hospital

it’s a Women’s and Children’s Hospital

it’s a Women’s and Children’s Hospital in Santa Clara and this is going to be a

in Santa Clara and this is going to be a

in Santa Clara and this is going to be a mural not a mural it’s actually going to

mural not a mural it’s actually going to

mural not a mural it’s actually going to be laser-cut and put up on the top of

be laser-cut and put up on the top of

be laser-cut and put up on the top of the building hopefully and you know I’m

the building hopefully and you know I’m

the building hopefully and you know I’m looking I mean a point of this talk or

looking I mean a point of this talk or

looking I mean a point of this talk or these public pieces is that I’m looking

these public pieces is that I’m looking

these public pieces is that I’m looking for

for

for you know even though I’ve had this

you know even though I’ve had this

you know even though I’ve had this specialized language of art in a funny

specialized language of art in a funny

specialized language of art in a funny way my years of watching television were

way my years of watching television were

way my years of watching television were just as informative when I wanted to

just as informative when I wanted to

just as informative when I wanted to speak to a big audience so this is a

speak to a big audience so this is a

speak to a big audience so this is a piece that’s obviously you know riffing

piece that’s obviously you know riffing

piece that’s obviously you know riffing on these heroic battle scenes but here

on these heroic battle scenes but here

on these heroic battle scenes but here I’m making the heroes doctors and nurses

I’m making the heroes doctors and nurses

I’m making the heroes doctors and nurses and orderlies and and they’re in this

and orderlies and and they’re in this

and orderlies and and they’re in this fight with diseases and these are

fight with diseases and these are

fight with diseases and these are actually real like like this here is

actually real like like this here is

actually real like like this here is streptococcus and anyway I tried to be

streptococcus and anyway I tried to be

streptococcus and anyway I tried to be very sort of diverse and and it’s in

very sort of diverse and and it’s in

very sort of diverse and and it’s in this superhero language it’s important

this superhero language it’s important

this superhero language it’s important that the bodies were normal bodies they

that the bodies were normal bodies they

that the bodies were normal bodies they were not pumped up you know superhero

were not pumped up you know superhero

were not pumped up you know superhero bodies it’s funny because I worked with

bodies it’s funny because I worked with

bodies it’s funny because I worked with an illustrator to make this and I kept

an illustrator to make this and I kept

an illustrator to make this and I kept saying like make him a little heavier

saying like make him a little heavier

saying like make him a little heavier could this guy be bald or could you know

could this guy be bald or could you know

could this guy be bald or could you know so anyway it was important that they

so anyway it was important that they

so anyway it was important that they were like real people and that they were

were like real people and that they were

were like real people and that they were in this battle so I don’t know I like I

in this battle so I don’t know I like I

in this battle so I don’t know I like I like its message it’s sort of it’s also

like its message it’s sort of it’s also

like its message it’s sort of it’s also this is a hospital and it’s a place

this is a hospital and it’s a place

this is a hospital and it’s a place where you know people come and they keep

where you know people come and they keep

where you know people come and they keep coming back and forth so unlike the big

coming back and forth so unlike the big

coming back and forth so unlike the big iconic like the big eyeball or the big

iconic like the big eyeball or the big

iconic like the big eyeball or the big rainbow

rainbow

rainbow I wanted something that would sustain

I wanted something that would sustain

I wanted something that would sustain you know looking at it for longer and

you know looking at it for longer and

you know looking at it for longer and longer so that’s part of what my idea

longer so that’s part of what my idea

longer so that’s part of what my idea was okay thank you very much

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