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Consciousness – Where next? | Adam Wilson | TEDxFolkestone


good morning you know there’s a lot of

good morning you know there’s a lot of bad news out there but in some respects

bad news out there but in some respects

bad news out there but in some respects there’s never been a more exciting time

there’s never been a more exciting time

there’s never been a more exciting time to be alive recent developments in brain

to be alive recent developments in brain

to be alive recent developments in brain imaging technology mean that we now

imaging technology mean that we now

imaging technology mean that we now understand more about the brain than we

understand more about the brain than we

understand more about the brain than we ever could before what does this mean

ever could before what does this mean

ever could before what does this mean the brain is the new frontier of

the brain is the new frontier of

the brain is the new frontier of exploration it’s a bit like sending a

exploration it’s a bit like sending a

exploration it’s a bit like sending a man to the moon but in my mind it’s kind

man to the moon but in my mind it’s kind

man to the moon but in my mind it’s kind of more exciting you know consider this

of more exciting you know consider this

of more exciting you know consider this we each of us have on our on our

we each of us have on our on our

we each of us have on our on our shoulders a lump of gray matter

shoulders a lump of gray matter

shoulders a lump of gray matter containing 100 billion neurons compare

containing 100 billion neurons compare

containing 100 billion neurons compare that with the population of the planet

that with the population of the planet

that with the population of the planet which is 8 billion neurons it seems like

which is 8 billion neurons it seems like

which is 8 billion neurons it seems like this this system that we have on our on

this this system that we have on our on

this this system that we have on our on our heads is more sophisticated than the

our heads is more sophisticated than the

our heads is more sophisticated than the Attar world’s population it’s amazing

Attar world’s population it’s amazing

Attar world’s population it’s amazing now the obvious question which arises is

now the obvious question which arises is

now the obvious question which arises is if I’ve got 100 billion neurons on my

if I’ve got 100 billion neurons on my

if I’ve got 100 billion neurons on my shoulders why can I never find my car

shoulders why can I never find my car

shoulders why can I never find my car keys now here’s another thing our our

keys now here’s another thing our our

keys now here’s another thing our our our brains contain a sophisticated

our brains contain a sophisticated

our brains contain a sophisticated electronic circuitry called neural

electronic circuitry called neural

electronic circuitry called neural pathways and we now know that they’re

pathways and we now know that they’re

pathways and we now know that they’re not fixed we can change them by learning

not fixed we can change them by learning

not fixed we can change them by learning new skills in 2004 a the University of

new skills in 2004 a the University of

new skills in 2004 a the University of Regensburg in Germany carried out an

Regensburg in Germany carried out an

Regensburg in Germany carried out an interesting experiment involving

interesting experiment involving

interesting experiment involving juggling they got a group of people

juggling they got a group of people

juggling they got a group of people who’d never juggled before and they

who’d never juggled before and they

who’d never juggled before and they taught them how to juggle actually the

taught them how to juggle actually the

taught them how to juggle actually the first thing that it was scan them then

first thing that it was scan them then

first thing that it was scan them then they taught them how to juggle it sent

they taught them how to juggle it sent

they taught them how to juggle it sent them away for three months and then they

them away for three months and then they

them away for three months and then they brought them back and they scanned the

brought them back and they scanned the

brought them back and they scanned the brains again and they discovered that

brains again and they discovered that

brains again and they discovered that part of the brain which is involved in

part of the brain which is involved in

part of the brain which is involved in juggling had grown significantly

juggling had grown significantly

juggling had grown significantly responsible for detecting visual motion

responsible for detecting visual motion

responsible for detecting visual motion okay so we’ve got this hugely

okay so we’ve got this hugely

okay so we’ve got this hugely sophisticated thing on our shoulders and

sophisticated thing on our shoulders and

sophisticated thing on our shoulders and it’s malleable we can upgrade it by

it’s malleable we can upgrade it by

it’s malleable we can upgrade it by learning new skills

learning new skills

learning new skills notice that in that example there was no

notice that in that example there was no

notice that in that example there was no man with a screwdriver

man with a screwdriver

man with a screwdriver okay it was a hardware upgrade not a

okay it was a hardware upgrade not a

okay it was a hardware upgrade not a software upgrade but nobody undid the

software upgrade but nobody undid the

software upgrade but nobody undid the brain it happened naturally nature did

brain it happened naturally nature did

brain it happened naturally nature did it all these people did was practice

it all these people did was practice

it all these people did was practice okay so what does this mean does it mean

okay so what does this mean does it mean

okay so what does this mean does it mean we should all learn to juggle well we

we should all learn to juggle well we

we should all learn to juggle well we could do but I think there’s a much

could do but I think there’s a much

could do but I think there’s a much bigger opportunity out there that we’re

bigger opportunity out there that we’re

bigger opportunity out there that we’re missing um something that could really

missing um something that could really

missing um something that could really change society for the better and that’s

change society for the better and that’s

change society for the better and that’s what I’d like to talk to you about this

what I’d like to talk to you about this

what I’d like to talk to you about this morning okay it all comes down to

morning okay it all comes down to

morning okay it all comes down to consciousness so let’s understand a bit

consciousness so let’s understand a bit

consciousness so let’s understand a bit more about consciousness and how human

more about consciousness and how human

more about consciousness and how human consciousness differs from animal

consciousness differs from animal

consciousness differs from animal consciousness and we’ll start with birds

consciousness and we’ll start with birds

consciousness and we’ll start with birds imagine a flock of swallows okay maybe

imagine a flock of swallows okay maybe

imagine a flock of swallows okay maybe you’re out on an autumn walk the skies

you’re out on an autumn walk the skies

you’re out on an autumn walk the skies beautiful and overcome this beautiful

beautiful and overcome this beautiful

beautiful and overcome this beautiful flock of swallows swallows were trained

flock of swallows swallows were trained

flock of swallows swallows were trained to migrate in the autumn and they’re on

to migrate in the autumn and they’re on

to migrate in the autumn and they’re on their way where are they going

their way where are they going

their way where are they going they’re going 5,000 miles to Botswana

they’re going 5,000 miles to Botswana

they’re going 5,000 miles to Botswana and South Africa

and South Africa

and South Africa well I’ve discovered how far they went I

well I’ve discovered how far they went I

well I’ve discovered how far they went I just couldn’t believe it it’s a hugely

just couldn’t believe it it’s a hugely

just couldn’t believe it it’s a hugely perilous journey many died on the way of

perilous journey many died on the way of

perilous journey many died on the way of starvation exhaustion resistant storms

starvation exhaustion resistant storms

starvation exhaustion resistant storms but all UK swallows our population of 1

but all UK swallows our population of 1

but all UK swallows our population of 1 million swallows they do this journey

million swallows they do this journey

million swallows they do this journey every year

every year

every year compare that with us human beings okay

compare that with us human beings okay

compare that with us human beings okay what we can we can choose to fly south

what we can we can choose to fly south

what we can we can choose to fly south in the winter if we want to but thanks

in the winter if we want to but thanks

in the winter if we want to but thanks to low-cost airlines other destinations

to low-cost airlines other destinations

to low-cost airlines other destinations are available

are available

are available we could fly somewhere else if you want

we could fly somewhere else if you want

we could fly somewhere else if you want and we’re doing a much much better job

and we’re doing a much much better job

and we’re doing a much much better job than swallows looking after our children

than swallows looking after our children

than swallows looking after our children I just have to look at the decline in

I just have to look at the decline in

I just have to look at the decline in infant mortality to recognize that if

infant mortality to recognize that if

infant mortality to recognize that if you look at any developed country okay

you look at any developed country okay

you look at any developed country okay I’ll just show you a graph of what the

I’ll just show you a graph of what the

I’ll just show you a graph of what the decline in infant mortality in the 20th

decline in infant mortality in the 20th

decline in infant mortality in the 20th century looked like okay it looks like a

century looked like okay it looks like a

century looked like okay it looks like a swallows dive like this okay do we have

swallows dive like this okay do we have

swallows dive like this okay do we have any Arabic members in the audience I’ll

any Arabic members in the audience I’ll

any Arabic members in the audience I’ll do that again for you you know reading

do that again for you you know reading

do that again for you you know reading the other way around adult war like

the other way around adult war like

the other way around adult war like please so what’s the difference well the

please so what’s the difference well the

please so what’s the difference well the difference is is that swallows have a

difference is is that swallows have a

difference is is that swallows have a low consciousness we have a much higher

low consciousness we have a much higher

low consciousness we have a much higher consciousness which is why we can choose

consciousness which is why we can choose

consciousness which is why we can choose to fly south and they can’t so let’s

to fly south and they can’t so let’s

to fly south and they can’t so let’s understand this conscious thing a little

understand this conscious thing a little

understand this conscious thing a little bit more what is consciousness the best

bit more what is consciousness the best

bit more what is consciousness the best definition I’ve come across was by

definition I’ve come across was by

definition I’ve come across was by Portuguese neurologist neuroscientist

Portuguese neurologist neuroscientist

Portuguese neurologist neuroscientist Antonio Damasio and he described

Antonio Damasio and he described

Antonio Damasio and he described consciousness as a movie playing inside

consciousness as a movie playing inside

consciousness as a movie playing inside your head which begins when you wake up

your head which begins when you wake up

your head which begins when you wake up in the morning and plays through until

in the morning and plays through until

in the morning and plays through until you go to sleep at night or lose

you go to sleep at night or lose

you go to sleep at night or lose consciousness for some other reason so

consciousness for some other reason so

consciousness for some other reason so there are three elements to that okay

there are three elements to that okay

there are three elements to that okay this is the movie playing out on the

this is the movie playing out on the

this is the movie playing out on the screen and then there’s this scene going

screen and then there’s this scene going

screen and then there’s this scene going on and then there’s you sitting in your

on and then there’s you sitting in your

on and then there’s you sitting in your seat doing the scene okay where are you

seat doing the scene okay where are you

seat doing the scene okay where are you in this in this well you’re in all three

in this in this well you’re in all three

in this in this well you’re in all three places all three places at once you’re

places all three places at once you’re

places all three places at once you’re involved in the movie you are doing the

involved in the movie you are doing the

involved in the movie you are doing the scene and you’re also sitting in your

scene and you’re also sitting in your

scene and you’re also sitting in your seat observing yourself doing the scene

seat observing yourself doing the scene

seat observing yourself doing the scene it’s hugely sophisticated well how does

it’s hugely sophisticated well how does

it’s hugely sophisticated well how does this work I’d love to tell you the

this work I’d love to tell you the

this work I’d love to tell you the answer well I can’t because nobody knows

answer well I can’t because nobody knows

answer well I can’t because nobody knows the answer there are lots of really

the answer there are lots of really

the answer there are lots of really clever people looking into this and we

clever people looking into this and we

clever people looking into this and we seem to be edging towards an

seem to be edging towards an

seem to be edging towards an understanding of consciousness but as

understanding of consciousness but as

understanding of consciousness but as yet nobody really understands how this

yet nobody really understands how this

yet nobody really understands how this works whoever gets it

works whoever gets it

works whoever gets it first we’ll get a Nobel price absolutely

first we’ll get a Nobel price absolutely

first we’ll get a Nobel price absolutely but for me that’s not the most important

but for me that’s not the most important

but for me that’s not the most important thing and for lots of other people well

thing and for lots of other people well

thing and for lots of other people well for any normal person understanding

for any normal person understanding

for any normal person understanding consciousness is great and it’s a

consciousness is great and it’s a

consciousness is great and it’s a wonderful thing but it’s not really

wonderful thing but it’s not really

wonderful thing but it’s not really going to make a huge impact on our lives

going to make a huge impact on our lives

going to make a huge impact on our lives what will what really concerns me is the

what will what really concerns me is the

what will what really concerns me is the quality of my consciousness and what I

quality of my consciousness and what I

quality of my consciousness and what I mean by that is how present am I in the

mean by that is how present am I in the

mean by that is how present am I in the moment that affects my experience in the

moment that affects my experience in the

moment that affects my experience in the world my relationship with other people

world my relationship with other people

world my relationship with other people and their relationship with me okay

and their relationship with me okay

and their relationship with me okay quality of consciousness the idea that

quality of consciousness the idea that

quality of consciousness the idea that there could be different qualities of

there could be different qualities of

there could be different qualities of consciousness or different types of

consciousness or different types of

consciousness or different types of consciousness is very very old it goes

consciousness is very very old it goes

consciousness is very very old it goes back more than 4,000 years to ancient

back more than 4,000 years to ancient

back more than 4,000 years to ancient Vedic civilization in India they

Vedic civilization in India they

Vedic civilization in India they believed there were there were seven

believed there were there were seven

believed there were there were seven levels of consciousness and the idea of

levels of consciousness and the idea of

levels of consciousness and the idea of life was that you climbed the

life was that you climbed the

life was that you climbed the consciousness ladder and you grew your

consciousness ladder and you grew your

consciousness ladder and you grew your consciousness as you as you as you grew

consciousness as you as you as you grew

consciousness as you as you as you grew through life now neuroscientists

through life now neuroscientists

through life now neuroscientists haven’t really gripped onto this let me

haven’t really gripped onto this let me

haven’t really gripped onto this let me put it in context by telling you a bit

put it in context by telling you a bit

put it in context by telling you a bit about my own consciousness story in 2011

about my own consciousness story in 2011

about my own consciousness story in 2011 at Steve Jobs died in 212 his biography

at Steve Jobs died in 212 his biography

at Steve Jobs died in 212 his biography came out I jumped on it because I’m a

came out I jumped on it because I’m a

came out I jumped on it because I’m a business mentor and I wanted to

business mentor and I wanted to

business mentor and I wanted to understand something about the most

understand something about the most

understand something about the most successful businessman in my lifetime

successful businessman in my lifetime

successful businessman in my lifetime and I read the book and first thing I

and I read the book and first thing I

and I read the book and first thing I noticed was that I seem to have all his

noticed was that I seem to have all his

noticed was that I seem to have all his bad qualities and that made me happy in

bad qualities and that made me happy in

bad qualities and that made me happy in a way because that obviously wasn’t

a way because that obviously wasn’t

a way because that obviously wasn’t holding me back the second thing that I

holding me back the second thing that I

holding me back the second thing that I noticed what he was a meditator and I’d

noticed what he was a meditator and I’d

noticed what he was a meditator and I’d always thought about taking up

always thought about taking up

always thought about taking up meditation but I’d never quite got

meditation but I’d never quite got

meditation but I’d never quite got around to it so I thought okay well

around to it so I thought okay well

around to it so I thought okay well now’s the time a bit of a problem didn’t

now’s the time a bit of a problem didn’t

now’s the time a bit of a problem didn’t know anybody who meditated and so I

know anybody who meditated and so I

know anybody who meditated and so I started asking around finally I found a

started asking around finally I found a

started asking around finally I found a client of mine who was a meditator

client of mine who was a meditator

client of mine who was a meditator hadn’t been doing it very long I said

hadn’t been doing it very long I said

hadn’t been doing it very long I said how’s it going okay you know are you

how’s it going okay you know are you

how’s it going okay you know are you people good yes there

people good yes there

people good yes there okay so next thing I’m going to a

okay so next thing I’m going to a

okay so next thing I’m going to a meeting to find out more about it and

meeting to find out more about it and

meeting to find out more about it and I’ve signed up for a beginner’s

I’ve signed up for a beginner’s

I’ve signed up for a beginner’s meditation course so that tells you what

meditation course so that tells you what

meditation course so that tells you what meditation is just like football I bet

meditation is just like football I bet

meditation is just like football I bet that more than half the audience in me

that more than half the audience in me

that more than half the audience in me here’s support Football Club nobody went

here’s support Football Club nobody went

here’s support Football Club nobody went onto google and looked at the stats

onto google and looked at the stats

onto google and looked at the stats before deciding which club to join or

before deciding which club to join or

before deciding which club to join or support it’s too important decision than

support it’s too important decision than

support it’s too important decision than that for something really important like

that for something really important like

that for something really important like that we asked somebody important parent

that we asked somebody important parent

that we asked somebody important parent sister classmate that’s same with

sister classmate that’s same with

sister classmate that’s same with meditation big decision okay so going

meditation big decision okay so going

meditation big decision okay so going back to my story for the first few

back to my story for the first few

back to my story for the first few months I had this little voice inside my

months I had this little voice inside my

months I had this little voice inside my head telling me this was pretentious

head telling me this was pretentious

head telling me this was pretentious waste of time and what was I doing

waste of time and what was I doing

waste of time and what was I doing and yeah I’m doing it wrong luckily my

and yeah I’m doing it wrong luckily my

and yeah I’m doing it wrong luckily my teacher was fantastic and she just told

teacher was fantastic and she just told

teacher was fantastic and she just told me this was normal so I carried on after

me this was normal so I carried on after

me this was normal so I carried on after a bit I went to India with them and then

a bit I went to India with them and then

a bit I went to India with them and then the voice quieting down

the voice quieting down

the voice quieting down things became a bit nicer you know I

things became a bit nicer you know I

things became a bit nicer you know I began to have some of these pleasant

began to have some of these pleasant

began to have some of these pleasant experiences people talk about and I also

experiences people talk about and I also

experiences people talk about and I also began to learn about Vedic civilization

began to learn about Vedic civilization

began to learn about Vedic civilization which is 4,000 years older there’s no

which is 4,000 years older there’s no

which is 4,000 years older there’s no nothing else like it on the planet

nothing else like it on the planet

nothing else like it on the planet something that’s intact from 4,000 years

something that’s intact from 4,000 years

something that’s intact from 4,000 years ago come down to us today so now I’ve

ago come down to us today so now I’ve

ago come down to us today so now I’ve been meditating for about five years and

been meditating for about five years and

been meditating for about five years and I believe I’ve experienced improvements

I believe I’ve experienced improvements

I believe I’ve experienced improvements in my life in many respects but I can’t

in my life in many respects but I can’t

in my life in many respects but I can’t say for sure whether that’s down to

say for sure whether that’s down to

say for sure whether that’s down to getting older or eating better or

getting older or eating better or

getting older or eating better or something else it might be any of those

something else it might be any of those

something else it might be any of those things the only thing I can say is that

things the only thing I can say is that

things the only thing I can say is that I tend to excite a bit of curiosity with

I tend to excite a bit of curiosity with

I tend to excite a bit of curiosity with people you know people think I’ve got

people you know people think I’ve got

people you know people think I’ve got something and they don’t quite know what

something and they don’t quite know what

something and they don’t quite know what it is and they’d like to know but it

it is and they’d like to know but it

it is and they’d like to know but it might just be that I’ve wear stupid

might just be that I’ve wear stupid

might just be that I’ve wear stupid glasses

glasses

glasses I don’t know there are other people like

I don’t know there are other people like

I don’t know there are other people like me on the planet who are doing this as

me on the planet who are doing this as

me on the planet who are doing this as well lots of people doing mindfulness

well lots of people doing mindfulness

well lots of people doing mindfulness things a lot of them pretty smart people

things a lot of them pretty smart people

things a lot of them pretty smart people and if that might be helping them feel a

and if that might be helping them feel a

and if that might be helping them feel a bit better but ultimately and they

bit better but ultimately and they

bit better but ultimately and they probably don’t know whether that’s doing

probably don’t know whether that’s doing

probably don’t know whether that’s doing them any real good either so my question

them any real good either so my question

them any real good either so my question is wouldn’t it be great if there was

is wouldn’t it be great if there was

is wouldn’t it be great if there was some way we could measure the results of

some way we could measure the results of

some way we could measure the results of all this activity well of course there

all this activity well of course there

all this activity well of course there is the technology exists but it’s just

is the technology exists but it’s just

is the technology exists but it’s just not available to us ordinary people but

not available to us ordinary people but

not available to us ordinary people but being plenty of studies about meditation

being plenty of studies about meditation

being plenty of studies about meditation you know and and have they demonstrated

you know and and have they demonstrated

you know and and have they demonstrated that they have that meditation makes

that they have that meditation makes

that they have that meditation makes changes in the brain and the leader in

changes in the brain and the leader in

changes in the brain and the leader in this area is a lady called Sarah Lazar

this area is a lady called Sarah Lazar

this area is a lady called Sarah Lazar from Harvard she did this study where

from Harvard she did this study where

from Harvard she did this study where she took a group of people who had never

she took a group of people who had never

she took a group of people who had never meditated and put them on a course sent

meditated and put them on a course sent

meditated and put them on a course sent them away to meditate for seven weeks

them away to meditate for seven weeks

them away to meditate for seven weeks and when went when she got them back she

and when went when she got them back she

and when went when she got them back she discovered that the following changes in

discovered that the following changes in

discovered that the following changes in the brain okay first of all left

the brain okay first of all left

the brain okay first of all left hippocampus which is a thing like a

hippocampus which is a thing like a

hippocampus which is a thing like a seahorse that sits on top of your spine

seahorse that sits on top of your spine

seahorse that sits on top of your spine the left hippocampus is responsible for

the left hippocampus is responsible for

the left hippocampus is responsible for learning memory and emotional regulation

learning memory and emotional regulation

learning memory and emotional regulation then the temporal parietal cortex which

then the temporal parietal cortex which

then the temporal parietal cortex which is temporal brutal Junction which is

is temporal brutal Junction which is

is temporal brutal Junction which is roughly here okay fat is responsible for

roughly here okay fat is responsible for

roughly here okay fat is responsible for perspective empathy and compassion and

perspective empathy and compassion and

perspective empathy and compassion and then the other thing she found was that

then the other thing she found was that

then the other thing she found was that the amygdalas on these people had got

the amygdalas on these people had got

the amygdalas on these people had got smaller now I don’t know you most of you

smaller now I don’t know you most of you

smaller now I don’t know you most of you probably know what an amygdala is but

probably know what an amygdala is but

probably know what an amygdala is but just let me tell you it it’s the thing

just let me tell you it it’s the thing

just let me tell you it it’s the thing that regulates your fight-or-flight

that regulates your fight-or-flight

that regulates your fight-or-flight mechanism so a smaller amygdala meant

mechanism so a smaller amygdala meant

mechanism so a smaller amygdala meant that these people were less stressed

that these people were less stressed

that these people were less stressed sits in about that in another study Sara

sits in about that in another study Sara

sits in about that in another study Sara farm that meditators tended to have

farm that meditators tended to have

farm that meditators tended to have larger prefrontal cortexes than the

larger prefrontal cortexes than the

larger prefrontal cortexes than the general population the prefrontal cortex

general population the prefrontal cortex

general population the prefrontal cortex is a thing that you use for fine

is a thing that you use for fine

is a thing that you use for fine judgment and decision-making so taken

judgment and decision-making so taken

judgment and decision-making so taken together these collection of benefits

together these collection of benefits

together these collection of benefits seems to me to correspond quite closely

seems to me to correspond quite closely

seems to me to correspond quite closely to my definition of higher consciousness

to my definition of higher consciousness

to my definition of higher consciousness consciousness which as I said was being

consciousness which as I said was being

consciousness which as I said was being highly present in

highly present in

highly present in moment being aware of what’s going

moment being aware of what’s going

moment being aware of what’s going around you picking things up

around you picking things up

around you picking things up interestingly it also corresponds quite

interestingly it also corresponds quite

interestingly it also corresponds quite closely with some of the the two main

closely with some of the the two main

closely with some of the the two main features of high consciousness under

features of high consciousness under

features of high consciousness under Vedic tradition which is having a

Vedic tradition which is having a

Vedic tradition which is having a broader perspective a spectrum of

broader perspective a spectrum of

broader perspective a spectrum of awareness and being able to appreciate

awareness and being able to appreciate

awareness and being able to appreciate the finer distinctions between things so

the finer distinctions between things so

the finer distinctions between things so what I’m saying is it looks like higher

what I’m saying is it looks like higher

what I’m saying is it looks like higher consciousness is something that you can

consciousness is something that you can

consciousness is something that you can these physical traces on the brain which

these physical traces on the brain which

these physical traces on the brain which you can pick up on a brain scan it’s

you can pick up on a brain scan it’s

you can pick up on a brain scan it’s pretty interesting other studies have

pretty interesting other studies have

pretty interesting other studies have found that meditation produces general

found that meditation produces general

found that meditation produces general health benefits like less susceptibility

health benefits like less susceptibility

health benefits like less susceptibility to stress-related diseases such as high

to stress-related diseases such as high

to stress-related diseases such as high blood pressure heart disease cancer so

blood pressure heart disease cancer so

blood pressure heart disease cancer so what’s the conclusion well I think that

what’s the conclusion well I think that

what’s the conclusion well I think that the fat that we can pick up higher

the fat that we can pick up higher

the fat that we can pick up higher consciousness on a brain scanner that it

consciousness on a brain scanner that it

consciousness on a brain scanner that it leaves physical traces on the brain is a

leaves physical traces on the brain is a

leaves physical traces on the brain is a massive idea and something that we can

massive idea and something that we can

massive idea and something that we can use to really push meditation in this

use to really push meditation in this

use to really push meditation in this country and I think if we did that

country and I think if we did that

country and I think if we did that meditation could go viral and I’m not

meditation could go viral and I’m not

meditation could go viral and I’m not talking about you know a mindfulness app

talking about you know a mindfulness app

talking about you know a mindfulness app that you download for free on your

that you download for free on your

that you download for free on your mobile phone I’m talking about something

mobile phone I’m talking about something

mobile phone I’m talking about something that involves a bit of commitment the

that involves a bit of commitment the

that involves a bit of commitment the other thing that we need to do is is

other thing that we need to do is is

other thing that we need to do is is gather more data to convince people of

gather more data to convince people of

gather more data to convince people of the benefits of meditation so we need

the benefits of meditation so we need

the benefits of meditation so we need more access to scanning technology and

first of all to look at you know what

first of all to look at you know what the immediate benefits were as in Sara’s

the immediate benefits were as in Sara’s

the immediate benefits were as in Sara’s study and then to monitor people on

study and then to monitor people on

study and then to monitor people on their consciousness journey through life

their consciousness journey through life

their consciousness journey through life if we do those two things as I say I

if we do those two things as I say I

if we do those two things as I say I think meditation could go viral if that

think meditation could go viral if that

think meditation could go viral if that happened the NHS could save an enormous

happened the NHS could save an enormous

happened the NHS could save an enormous amount of money because we have far

amount of money because we have far

amount of money because we have far fewer people suffering from these

fewer people suffering from these

fewer people suffering from these stress-related diseases and the other

stress-related diseases and the other

stress-related diseases and the other thing that could happen is that we could

thing that could happen is that we could

thing that could happen is that we could realize my personal dream of a happier

realize my personal dream of a happier

realize my personal dream of a happier healthier Society which is richer in

healthier Society which is richer in

healthier Society which is richer in every respect I think that’s something

every respect I think that’s something

every respect I think that’s something worth striving for idealistic you might

worth striving for idealistic you might

worth striving for idealistic you might say maybe but if we can put a man on the

say maybe but if we can put a man on the

say maybe but if we can put a man on the moon why can’t we do these two simple

moon why can’t we do these two simple

moon why can’t we do these two simple things it’s not rocket science thank you

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