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Thriving in real time reality | Lauren Hurwitz | TEDxLSE


I’m ten months into my first job as an

I’m ten months into my first job as an analyst at a big financial firm it’s

analyst at a big financial firm it’s

analyst at a big financial firm it’s time for my first ever performance

time for my first ever performance

time for my first ever performance review and I’m excited I wear my

review and I’m excited I wear my

review and I’m excited I wear my favorite navy suit and a really pretty

favorite navy suit and a really pretty

favorite navy suit and a really pretty lime scarf I go into the office of the

lime scarf I go into the office of the

lime scarf I go into the office of the senior manager on my team I sit down at

senior manager on my team I sit down at

senior manager on my team I sit down at this very small circular round table

this very small circular round table

this very small circular round table he’s right across from me

he’s right across from me

he’s right across from me it was raining that day I remember that

it was raining that day I remember that

it was raining that day I remember that because it felt so honest the senior

because it felt so honest the senior

because it felt so honest the senior manager lovely man we’ll call him Bob I

manager lovely man we’ll call him Bob I

manager lovely man we’ll call him Bob I see him eyeing this piece of paper out

see him eyeing this piece of paper out

see him eyeing this piece of paper out of the corner of his eye and I think

of the corner of his eye and I think

of the corner of his eye and I think it’s my feedback and it looks like he’s

it’s my feedback and it looks like he’s

it’s my feedback and it looks like he’s reading it for the first time so I

reading it for the first time so I

reading it for the first time so I assume it’s been prepared for him by

assume it’s been prepared for him by

assume it’s been prepared for him by someone else someone in HR it strikes me

someone else someone in HR it strikes me

someone else someone in HR it strikes me how awkward this is Bob and I were on

how awkward this is Bob and I were on

how awkward this is Bob and I were on the same team but we’ve never worked

the same team but we’ve never worked

the same team but we’ve never worked together

together

together and I think he’s feeling kind of awkward

and I think he’s feeling kind of awkward

and I think he’s feeling kind of awkward about it too but he’s been appointed to

about it too but he’s been appointed to

about it too but he’s been appointed to give me this feedback so we get into it

give me this feedback so we get into it

give me this feedback so we get into it he gives me a few generic comments about

he gives me a few generic comments about

he gives me a few generic comments about my performance which were okay and then

my performance which were okay and then

my performance which were okay and then we get to the constructive feedback and

we get to the constructive feedback and

we get to the constructive feedback and this is what I’m excited for because I

this is what I’m excited for because I

this is what I’m excited for because I want to be a valuable member of this

want to be a valuable member of this

want to be a valuable member of this team I want to grow he says Lauren what

team I want to grow he says Lauren what

team I want to grow he says Lauren what you need to focus on is a TD thanks Bob

you need to focus on is a TD thanks Bob

you need to focus on is a TD thanks Bob what does that mean Bob says ah

what does that mean Bob says ah

what does that mean Bob says ah it means attention to detail okay I

it means attention to detail okay I

it means attention to detail okay I think in my head well what does that

think in my head well what does that

think in my head well what does that mean did I get some math wrong on a

mean did I get some math wrong on a

mean did I get some math wrong on a slide did I spell something wrong in an

slide did I spell something wrong in an

slide did I spell something wrong in an email was my shirt untucked was it on

email was my shirt untucked was it on

email was my shirt untucked was it on backwards what did I miss how come

backwards what did I miss how come

backwards what did I miss how come nobody told me I really wanted to just

nobody told me I really wanted to just

nobody told me I really wanted to just launch into a flurry of questions

launch into a flurry of questions

launch into a flurry of questions because they’re scrolling in my mind but

because they’re scrolling in my mind but

because they’re scrolling in my mind but I don’t thank Bob and I leave I go back

I don’t thank Bob and I leave I go back

I don’t thank Bob and I leave I go back to my desk I sit down I log into my

to my desk I sit down I log into my

to my desk I sit down I log into my computer and it hits me but I actually

computer and it hits me but I actually

computer and it hits me but I actually have no idea what to focus on in terms

have no idea what to focus on in terms

have no idea what to focus on in terms of areas for improvement and I might

of areas for improvement and I might

of areas for improvement and I might have to wait another 10 months until my

have to wait another 10 months until my

have to wait another 10 months until my next performance review to find out

next performance review to find out

next performance review to find out years later I’m at a new job new role

years later I’m at a new job new role

years later I’m at a new job new role new company new manager her name is

new company new manager her name is

new company new manager her name is Michelle and I’m on the phone with her

Michelle and I’m on the phone with her

Michelle and I’m on the phone with her and I am pitching her this new idea for

and I am pitching her this new idea for

and I am pitching her this new idea for a somewhat controversial policy my

a somewhat controversial policy my

a somewhat controversial policy my groove going through my slides I get to

groove going through my slides I get to

groove going through my slides I get to slide 12 out of 20 and she just cuts me

slide 12 out of 20 and she just cuts me

slide 12 out of 20 and she just cuts me off

off

off she says Lauren I’ve heard enough I’m

she says Lauren I’ve heard enough I’m

she says Lauren I’ve heard enough I’m not convinced I’m not sold I got to

not convinced I’m not sold I got to

not convinced I’m not sold I got to think about it click in that moment I

think about it click in that moment I

think about it click in that moment I was feeling like a failure and so I

was feeling like a failure and so I

was feeling like a failure and so I decide I’m going to get some fresh air

decide I’m going to get some fresh air

decide I’m going to get some fresh air take a walk so as I’m leaving my office

take a walk so as I’m leaving my office

take a walk so as I’m leaving my office the phone rings so I lunge and I answer

the phone rings so I lunge and I answer

the phone rings so I lunge and I answer the phone it’s Michelle she says Lauren

the phone it’s Michelle she says Lauren

the phone it’s Michelle she says Lauren I want to talk about that call and I

I want to talk about that call and I

I want to talk about that call and I think oh my gosh it clearly went even

think oh my gosh it clearly went even

think oh my gosh it clearly went even worse than I thought

worse than I thought

worse than I thought she asks me what were you trying to

she asks me what were you trying to

she asks me what were you trying to achieve on that call what was your goal

achieve on that call what was your goal

achieve on that call what was your goal so I say to her out Michelle

so I say to her out Michelle

so I say to her out Michelle I wanted to convince you that this

I wanted to convince you that this

I wanted to convince you that this policy was really important that we

policy was really important that we

policy was really important that we should adopt it from wide and that you

should adopt it from wide and that you

should adopt it from wide and that you should be the champion she asks me did

should be the champion she asks me did

should be the champion she asks me did you manage to that outcome

obviously not she’s that she then spent

obviously not she’s that she then spent the next 30 minutes going through with

the next 30 minutes going through with

the next 30 minutes going through with me in detail what I did well where I

me in detail what I did well where I

me in detail what I did well where I lost her in my reasoning and most

lost her in my reasoning and most

lost her in my reasoning and most importantly how she would have done it

importantly how she would have done it

importantly how she would have done it how she would have thought about it how

how she would have thought about it how

how she would have thought about it how she would have pitched it in that moment

she would have pitched it in that moment

she would have pitched it in that moment I learned such a critical skill managed

I learned such a critical skill managed

I learned such a critical skill managed to your outcome I think about that all

to your outcome I think about that all

to your outcome I think about that all the time I use it every day good

the time I use it every day good

the time I use it every day good feedback like that it persists it can

feedback like that it persists it can

feedback like that it persists it can have ripple effects for years Michelle

have ripple effects for years Michelle

have ripple effects for years Michelle is my feedback euro what feedback heroes

is my feedback euro what feedback heroes

is my feedback euro what feedback heroes enable us to do is learn feedback even

enable us to do is learn feedback even

enable us to do is learn feedback even just the word it can trigger our

just the word it can trigger our

just the word it can trigger our fight-or-flight response but feedback

fight-or-flight response but feedback

fight-or-flight response but feedback heroes the way they deliver feedback

heroes the way they deliver feedback

heroes the way they deliver feedback isn’t threatening because it’s

isn’t threatening because it’s

isn’t threatening because it’s forward-looking and I realized that the

forward-looking and I realized that the

forward-looking and I realized that the world needs more feedback heroes people

world needs more feedback heroes people

world needs more feedback heroes people who can lift us up people who can teach

who can lift us up people who can teach

who can lift us up people who can teach us help us grow because we want that

us help us grow because we want that

us help us grow because we want that that matters to us a 2015 Gallup poll

that matters to us a 2015 Gallup poll

that matters to us a 2015 Gallup poll found that the single most important

found that the single most important

found that the single most important factor to Millennials in choosing a job

factor to Millennials in choosing a job

factor to Millennials in choosing a job was the ability to learn and grow a

was the ability to learn and grow a

was the ability to learn and grow a recent cover of the Harvard Business

recent cover of the Harvard Business

recent cover of the Harvard Business Review had an article titled the

Review had an article titled the

Review had an article titled the performance management revolution the

performance management revolution the

performance management revolution the focus is shifting from accountability to

focus is shifting from accountability to

focus is shifting from accountability to learning and so it’s unsurprising that

learning and so it’s unsurprising that

learning and so it’s unsurprising that the performance management industry is

the performance management industry is

the performance management industry is undergoing huge change companies are

undergoing huge change companies are

undergoing huge change companies are trying to redefine and figure out what

trying to redefine and figure out what

trying to redefine and figure out what feedback means in the 21st century old

feedback means in the 21st century old

feedback means in the 21st century old feedback systems like the one I

feedback systems like the one I

feedback systems like the one I experienced are being completely

experienced are being completely

experienced are being completely scrapped

these are the companies that are

these are the companies that are scrapping systems so why now why right

scrapping systems so why now why right

scrapping systems so why now why right now why not when I got to the workforce

now why not when I got to the workforce

now why not when I got to the workforce with Bob it’s generational one eels are

with Bob it’s generational one eels are

with Bob it’s generational one eels are used to working in a way that is

used to working in a way that is

used to working in a way that is completely different we’re used to

completely different we’re used to

completely different we’re used to getting feedback that is more frequent

getting feedback that is more frequent

getting feedback that is more frequent it’s faster and it’s mobile enabled

it’s faster and it’s mobile enabled

it’s faster and it’s mobile enabled let’s admit it we go into a restaurant

let’s admit it we go into a restaurant

let’s admit it we go into a restaurant we have a particularly great or a

we have a particularly great or a

we have a particularly great or a particularly terrible meal we get on the

particularly terrible meal we get on the

particularly terrible meal we get on the interwebs and we write about it I write

interwebs and we write about it I write

interwebs and we write about it I write about it

TripAdvisor a website that some of you

TripAdvisor a website that some of you may know or may have posted on they’ve

may know or may have posted on they’ve

may know or may have posted on they’ve noticed that some of their restaurant

noticed that some of their restaurant

noticed that some of their restaurant goers are sitting in a restaurant eating

goers are sitting in a restaurant eating

goers are sitting in a restaurant eating dinner and they’re writing feedback

dinner and they’re writing feedback

dinner and they’re writing feedback while they’re in the restaurant and the

while they’re in the restaurant and the

while they’re in the restaurant and the restaurants can respond real-time they

restaurants can respond real-time they

restaurants can respond real-time they can address issues before those

can address issues before those

can address issues before those restaurant goers even get to dessert

so what happens when this wave of change

so what happens when this wave of change of performance management collides with

of performance management collides with

of performance management collides with this real-time wave precipitated by the

this real-time wave precipitated by the

this real-time wave precipitated by the Millennials you get a tidal wave and the

Millennials you get a tidal wave and the

Millennials you get a tidal wave and the tidal wave we’re facing is one of

tidal wave we’re facing is one of

tidal wave we’re facing is one of real-time feedback many of the companies

real-time feedback many of the companies

real-time feedback many of the companies that you saw earlier they’re doing

that you saw earlier they’re doing

that you saw earlier they’re doing exactly that they’re rolling out

exactly that they’re rolling out

exactly that they’re rolling out real-time feedback tools as we ride this

real-time feedback tools as we ride this

real-time feedback tools as we ride this wave getting feedback really right is of

wave getting feedback really right is of

wave getting feedback really right is of the utmost importance because we can

the utmost importance because we can

the utmost importance because we can only harness its power if we learn how

only harness its power if we learn how

only harness its power if we learn how to do it articulate it deliver it

to do it articulate it deliver it

to do it articulate it deliver it receive it and implement it and footnote

receive it and implement it and footnote

receive it and implement it and footnote here

here

here this isn’t feedback like you know it

this isn’t feedback like you know it

this isn’t feedback like you know it today or may have experienced its

today or may have experienced its

today or may have experienced its feedback packaged as coaching like the

feedback packaged as coaching like the

feedback packaged as coaching like the kind Michelle gave me we’re on the brink

kind Michelle gave me we’re on the brink

kind Michelle gave me we’re on the brink of a pretty radical change but are we

of a pretty radical change but are we

of a pretty radical change but are we ready for it no I don’t think we are in

ready for it no I don’t think we are in

ready for it no I don’t think we are in my 24 years of education I never learned

my 24 years of education I never learned

my 24 years of education I never learned how to be a coach I never learned how to

how to be a coach I never learned how to

how to be a coach I never learned how to deliver receive or implement feedback

deliver receive or implement feedback

deliver receive or implement feedback and certainly not in real-time in fact I

and certainly not in real-time in fact I

and certainly not in real-time in fact I never thought about any of those things

never thought about any of those things

never thought about any of those things as discrete skills that had to be

as discrete skills that had to be

as discrete skills that had to be learned or mastered and Bob I don’t

learned or mastered and Bob I don’t

learned or mastered and Bob I don’t think he did either think about that for

think he did either think about that for

think he did either think about that for a second

a second

a second bob was giving feedback in a

bob was giving feedback in a

bob was giving feedback in a professional setting for 25 years and I

professional setting for 25 years and I

professional setting for 25 years and I don’t think he was ever given the

don’t think he was ever given the

don’t think he was ever given the opportunity to learn how to do so

opportunity to learn how to do so

opportunity to learn how to do so feedback is like a dark art we know we

feedback is like a dark art we know we

feedback is like a dark art we know we need it we know it’s good for us but we

need it we know it’s good for us but we

need it we know it’s good for us but we hate I mean really hate talking about it

hate I mean really hate talking about it

hate I mean really hate talking about it and it is only just four things four

and it is only just four things four

and it is only just four things four facets articulation are you a powerful

facets articulation are you a powerful

facets articulation are you a powerful observer delivery are you effective at

observer delivery are you effective at

observer delivery are you effective at communicating what it is that you

communicating what it is that you

communicating what it is that you observed depending on who you’re talking

observed depending on who you’re talking

observed depending on who you’re talking to

to

to reception are you open actually open to

reception are you open actually open to

reception are you open actually open to receiving feedback and implementation do

receiving feedback and implementation do

receiving feedback and implementation do you have the nuggets of wisdom that you

you have the nuggets of wisdom that you

you have the nuggets of wisdom that you need to turn that feedback into action

some organizations progressive

some organizations progressive organizations are making this part of

organizations are making this part of

organizations are making this part of the conversation they’re experimenting

the conversation they’re experimenting

the conversation they’re experimenting with new tools new apps new frameworks

with new tools new apps new frameworks

with new tools new apps new frameworks it won’t be one-size-fits-all there

it won’t be one-size-fits-all there

it won’t be one-size-fits-all there won’t be one right answer an extension D

won’t be one right answer an extension D

won’t be one right answer an extension D called this a great social experiment

called this a great social experiment

called this a great social experiment these four facets are important pieces

these four facets are important pieces

these four facets are important pieces of the performance management puzzle but

of the performance management puzzle but

of the performance management puzzle but they have to go from once or twice a

they have to go from once or twice a

they have to go from once or twice a year skills to everyday skills you need

year skills to everyday skills you need

year skills to everyday skills you need to be as good at giving feedback as you

to be as good at giving feedback as you

to be as good at giving feedback as you are at being a doctor or a lawyer or a

are at being a doctor or a lawyer or a

are at being a doctor or a lawyer or a guitar player or a bellhop or a

guitar player or a bellhop or a

guitar player or a bellhop or a financial analyst the future will

financial analyst the future will

financial analyst the future will necessitate this as a core skill as

necessitate this as a core skill as

necessitate this as a core skill as these real-time tools become the norm

these real-time tools become the norm

these real-time tools become the norm there are effects both negative and

there are effects both negative and

there are effects both negative and positive will be amplified

positive will be amplified

positive will be amplified we have a window right now to master

we have a window right now to master

we have a window right now to master this craft before the tidal wave arrives

this craft before the tidal wave arrives

this craft before the tidal wave arrives and here’s the thing when you do when

and here’s the thing when you do when

and here’s the thing when you do when you master this craft everybody will

you master this craft everybody will

you master this craft everybody will want to work with you the most talented

want to work with you the most talented

want to work with you the most talented and ambitious people will want to work

and ambitious people will want to work

and ambitious people will want to work with you because they will know that you

with you because they will know that you

with you because they will know that you can elevate them to a higher level of

can elevate them to a higher level of

can elevate them to a higher level of their own ability I love working with

their own ability I love working with

their own ability I love working with Michele she’s the best because every

Michele she’s the best because every

Michele she’s the best because every time I work with her I grow I learn I

time I work with her I grow I learn I

time I work with her I grow I learn I evolve who doesn’t want that by the way

evolve who doesn’t want that by the way

evolve who doesn’t want that by the way Michele asks me for feedback all the

Michele asks me for feedback all the

Michele asks me for feedback all the time which was scary in the beginning

time which was scary in the beginning

time which was scary in the beginning actually it’s it’s still scary most

actually it’s it’s still scary most

actually it’s it’s still scary most people think about coaching as being a

people think about coaching as being a

people think about coaching as being a one-way dialogue from coach to player I

one-way dialogue from coach to player I

one-way dialogue from coach to player I invite you to think about feedback as

invite you to think about feedback as

invite you to think about feedback as being a two-way street that can go from

being a two-way street that can go from

being a two-way street that can go from player back to coach to our real-time

player back to coach to our real-time

player back to coach to our real-time world will be 360 degrees meaning that

world will be 360 degrees meaning that

world will be 360 degrees meaning that the organizations that we work for that

the organizations that we work for that

the organizations that we work for that you will work for in the future they

you will work for in the future they

you will work for in the future they will ask for feedback on people all

will ask for feedback on people all

will ask for feedback on people all around you

around you

around you junior to you senior to your peers and

junior to you senior to your peers and

junior to you senior to your peers and if you master this craft you will be

if you master this craft you will be

if you master this craft you will be able to give all of those groups great

able to give all of those groups great

able to give all of those groups great feedback and they will seek you out

feedback and they will seek you out

feedback and they will seek you out because everybody wants to work with a

because everybody wants to work with a

because everybody wants to work with a feedback hero so be one the companies

feedback hero so be one the companies

feedback hero so be one the companies the organizations the teams that figure

the organizations the teams that figure

the organizations the teams that figure this out first that teach it faster that

this out first that teach it faster that

this out first that teach it faster that elevate their employees higher they will

elevate their employees higher they will

elevate their employees higher they will win the war for talent and they will

win the war for talent and they will

win the war for talent and they will also have the most engaged workforce

also have the most engaged workforce

also have the most engaged workforce recall the 2015 Gallup poll found that

recall the 2015 Gallup poll found that

recall the 2015 Gallup poll found that the single most important factor for

the single most important factor for

the single most important factor for millenials and looking for a job was the

millenials and looking for a job was the

millenials and looking for a job was the ability to learn and grow you can’t

ability to learn and grow you can’t

ability to learn and grow you can’t invite them to learn and grow just once

invite them to learn and grow just once

invite them to learn and grow just once every 10 months so how do we get there

every 10 months so how do we get there

every 10 months so how do we get there how do we get to a world that is filled

how do we get to a world that is filled

how do we get to a world that is filled with feedback heroes who’s responsible

with feedback heroes who’s responsible

with feedback heroes who’s responsible for teaching us for teaching the

for teaching us for teaching the

for teaching us for teaching the workforce for teaching the future

workforce for teaching the future

workforce for teaching the future workforce we all are each one of us we

workforce we all are each one of us we

workforce we all are each one of us we have to lead by example

have to lead by example

have to lead by example we’ll make small changes every day high

we’ll make small changes every day high

we’ll make small changes every day high schools and colleges they have a role to

schools and colleges they have a role to

schools and colleges they have a role to play in this too the need to integrate

play in this too the need to integrate

play in this too the need to integrate this into their curriculums like it’s

this into their curriculums like it’s

this into their curriculums like it’s just as important as writing or driver’s

just as important as writing or driver’s

just as important as writing or driver’s ed and the workplace this training needs

ed and the workplace this training needs

ed and the workplace this training needs to be part of the curriculum every year

to be part of the curriculum every year

to be part of the curriculum every year because together we can create virtuous

because together we can create virtuous

because together we can create virtuous circles of learning so the next time

circles of learning so the next time

circles of learning so the next time you’re in a meeting or a team huddle or

you’re in a meeting or a team huddle or

you’re in a meeting or a team huddle or even a one-to-one spend that extra five

even a one-to-one spend that extra five

even a one-to-one spend that extra five minutes at the end think deeply about

minutes at the end think deeply about

minutes at the end think deeply about what you observed what you can offer

what you observed what you can offer

what you observed what you can offer pick someone to give feedback to manage

pick someone to give feedback to manage

pick someone to give feedback to manage to your outcome the outcome you want is

to your outcome the outcome you want is

to your outcome the outcome you want is for that person to learn and grow

for that person to learn and grow

for that person to learn and grow so deliver feedback with that framework

so deliver feedback with that framework

so deliver feedback with that framework in mind when you start to do this the

in mind when you start to do this the

in mind when you start to do this the world you inhabit will start to change

world you inhabit will start to change

world you inhabit will start to change imagine you go to sleep every night

imagine you go to sleep every night

imagine you go to sleep every night knowing how you can be better tomorrow

knowing how you can be better tomorrow

knowing how you can be better tomorrow imagine you wake up every day excited to

imagine you wake up every day excited to

imagine you wake up every day excited to learn

learn

learn imagine you even look forward to a

imagine you even look forward to a

imagine you even look forward to a performance review the ability to be a

performance review the ability to be a

performance review the ability to be a real-time feedback hero is in your hands

real-time feedback hero is in your hands

real-time feedback hero is in your hands thank you

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