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Songs of resilience | Gingger Shankar | TEDxDanubia


the notion of alonein together has been

the notion of alonein together has been very familiar in my life I come from a

very familiar in my life I come from a

very familiar in my life I come from a country of 1.3 billion people so there’s

country of 1.3 billion people so there’s

country of 1.3 billion people so there’s not really such a thing as being alone

not really such a thing as being alone

not really such a thing as being alone you may think you’re alone sometimes but

you may think you’re alone sometimes but

you may think you’re alone sometimes but it’s really an illusion

it’s really an illusion

it’s really an illusion and then growing up between India and

and then growing up between India and

and then growing up between India and the US I really understood what it was

the US I really understood what it was

the US I really understood what it was to be alone I’ve spent most of my life

to be alone I’ve spent most of my life

to be alone I’ve spent most of my life on stage completely feeling alone I’ve

on stage completely feeling alone I’ve

on stage completely feeling alone I’ve been in front of crowds my whole life

been in front of crowds my whole life

been in front of crowds my whole life and even then I’ve always been able to

and even then I’ve always been able to

and even then I’ve always been able to hide behind the illusion of this

hide behind the illusion of this

hide behind the illusion of this constructed intimacy behind technology

constructed intimacy behind technology

constructed intimacy behind technology hiding behind distance being in a room

hiding behind distance being in a room

hiding behind distance being in a room full of people and feeling completely

full of people and feeling completely

full of people and feeling completely alone but as we all know we all want

alone but as we all know we all want

alone but as we all know we all want more than that we have this need for

more than that we have this need for

more than that we have this need for this immediate intimacy upon demand

this immediate intimacy upon demand

this immediate intimacy upon demand whether it’s performing onstage or

whether it’s performing onstage or

whether it’s performing onstage or swiping away at fellow humans on dating

swiping away at fellow humans on dating

swiping away at fellow humans on dating apps over coffee with friends it’s this

apps over coffee with friends it’s this

apps over coffee with friends it’s this constant need and I think for me this

constant need and I think for me this

constant need and I think for me this need for love without having to quite

need for love without having to quite

need for love without having to quite reveal yourself in any sort of way

reveal yourself in any sort of way

reveal yourself in any sort of way the need for wanting everything without

the need for wanting everything without

the need for wanting everything without ever having to give yourself away and I

ever having to give yourself away and I

ever having to give yourself away and I come from a unique situation in the

come from a unique situation in the

come from a unique situation in the sense that I had an identity before I

sense that I had an identity before I

sense that I had an identity before I was born I was the daughter of a famous

was born I was the daughter of a famous

was born I was the daughter of a famous Indian violinist I was the granddaughter

Indian violinist I was the granddaughter

Indian violinist I was the granddaughter of a famous Indian vocalist related to

of a famous Indian vocalist related to

of a famous Indian vocalist related to famous Indian musicians probably the

famous Indian musicians probably the

famous Indian musicians probably the most famous Indian musician of all time

most famous Indian musician of all time

most famous Indian musician of all time but within that I was surrounded by

but within that I was surrounded by

but within that I was surrounded by people since I was little but really

people since I was little but really

people since I was little but really felt alone and didn’t quite understand

felt alone and didn’t quite understand

felt alone and didn’t quite understand why I grew up without my mother without

why I grew up without my mother without

why I grew up without my mother without my family and there was always this hope

my family and there was always this hope

my family and there was always this hope of wanting to find real connections and

of wanting to find real connections and

of wanting to find real connections and I found hope in one of the most

I found hope in one of the most

I found hope in one of the most unexpected places and I’d like to tell

unexpected places and I’d like to tell

unexpected places and I’d like to tell you a story about that

[Music]

[Music] even now I wake up in the middle of the

even now I wake up in the middle of the

even now I wake up in the middle of the night wanting to call my mother wanting

night wanting to call my mother wanting

night wanting to call my mother wanting to ask her what ingredient I’m missing

to ask her what ingredient I’m missing

to ask her what ingredient I’m missing in my mint chutney what that old uncle

in my mint chutney what that old uncle

in my mint chutney what that old uncle and India’s name is and what I’m

and India’s name is and what I’m

and India’s name is and what I’m supposed to do over my latest heartbreak

supposed to do over my latest heartbreak

supposed to do over my latest heartbreak and it hits me every time that she’s

and it hits me every time that she’s

and it hits me every time that she’s gone the ground beneath me no longer

gone the ground beneath me no longer

gone the ground beneath me no longer feels secure and suddenly I’m the adult

feels secure and suddenly I’m the adult

feels secure and suddenly I’m the adult this larger-than-life character the

this larger-than-life character the

this larger-than-life character the center of my universe was the age I am

center of my universe was the age I am

center of my universe was the age I am now I don’t know if it hits me because

now I don’t know if it hits me because

now I don’t know if it hits me because I’m getting older or because my

I’m getting older or because my

I’m getting older or because my all-knowing every powerful mother didn’t

all-knowing every powerful mother didn’t

all-knowing every powerful mother didn’t know any more about life than I do now

know any more about life than I do now

know any more about life than I do now that would be fine in normal

that would be fine in normal

that would be fine in normal circumstances but my mother who used to

circumstances but my mother who used to

circumstances but my mother who used to sing me lullabies was also a Shanker

sing me lullabies was also a Shanker

sing me lullabies was also a Shanker when I was growing up they used to be at

when I was growing up they used to be at

when I was growing up they used to be at lots of concerts my grandmother and my

lots of concerts my grandmother and my

lots of concerts my grandmother and my mother would play all the time they’d

mother would play all the time they’d

mother would play all the time they’d sing with Ravi Shankar George Harrison

sing with Ravi Shankar George Harrison

sing with Ravi Shankar George Harrison but they didn’t really talk about it and

but they didn’t really talk about it and

but they didn’t really talk about it and I didn’t really understand in passing

I didn’t really understand in passing

I didn’t really understand in passing they’d mention yeah we used to tour a

they’d mention yeah we used to tour a

they’d mention yeah we used to tour a little bit we performed but that’s just

little bit we performed but that’s just

little bit we performed but that’s just who these women were if you ask them

who these women were if you ask them

who these women were if you ask them more than that they were completely

more than that they were completely

more than that they were completely modest and I never quite understood

modest and I never quite understood

modest and I never quite understood their power so I used to ask my

their power so I used to ask my

their power so I used to ask my grandmother these questions all the time

grandmother these questions all the time

grandmother these questions all the time tell me more about your touring tell me

tell me more about your touring tell me

tell me more about your touring tell me what you did and was always the same

what you did and was always the same

what you did and was always the same answer you know stop asking us questions

answer you know stop asking us questions

answer you know stop asking us questions nobody wants to hear our story get over

nobody wants to hear our story get over

nobody wants to hear our story get over it so growing up as a chunker the legacy

it so growing up as a chunker the legacy

it so growing up as a chunker the legacy was very complicated for me because most

was very complicated for me because most

was very complicated for me because most people I knew only really heard of my

people I knew only really heard of my

people I knew only really heard of my great uncle Ravi Shankar

great uncle Ravi Shankar

great uncle Ravi Shankar they’d never really heard about the

they’d never really heard about the

they’d never really heard about the women heard about the musicians so at

women heard about the musicians so at

women heard about the musicians so at some point I decided I had to tell this

some point I decided I had to tell this

some point I decided I had to tell this story and I kept bugging my grandmother

story and I kept bugging my grandmother

story and I kept bugging my grandmother about these stories a few years before

about these stories a few years before

about these stories a few years before she passed away I finally got her to

she passed away I finally got her to

she passed away I finally got her to relent she gave me some old instruments

relent she gave me some old instruments

relent she gave me some old instruments and scrapbooks and I asked her every

and scrapbooks and I asked her every

and scrapbooks and I asked her every question I’d ever wanted to ask her and

question I’d ever wanted to ask her and

question I’d ever wanted to ask her and these conversations would change the

these conversations would change the

these conversations would change the course of my life

[Music]

[Music] born in 1926

born in 1926

born in 1926 my grandmother Lakshmi Shastri grew up

my grandmother Lakshmi Shastri grew up

my grandmother Lakshmi Shastri grew up in Madras her mother Vaishali she

in Madras her mother Vaishali she

in Madras her mother Vaishali she despite having no formal education at

despite having no formal education at

despite having no formal education at her own insisted that her daughter was

her own insisted that her daughter was

her own insisted that her daughter was talented it should be educated just like

talented it should be educated just like

talented it should be educated just like the boys

the boys

the boys her father r-v Shastri was the first

her father r-v Shastri was the first

her father r-v Shastri was the first editor of Gandhi’s newspaper hyejin at

editor of Gandhi’s newspaper hyejin at

editor of Gandhi’s newspaper hyejin at the age of 13 my grandmother was

the age of 13 my grandmother was

the age of 13 my grandmother was discovered as a talented dancer by the

discovered as a talented dancer by the

discovered as a talented dancer by the prestigious with a chancre dance troupe

prestigious with a chancre dance troupe

prestigious with a chancre dance troupe at the Almora Center

my grandmother was just a child 13 years

my grandmother was just a child 13 years old but she wanted to lead the life of

old but she wanted to lead the life of

old but she wanted to lead the life of an artist she traveled all over the

an artist she traveled all over the

an artist she traveled all over the world performing and at the age of 15

world performing and at the age of 15

world performing and at the age of 15 she was married off to fellow troupe

she was married off to fellow troupe

she was married off to fellow troupe member Rajendra sunder at the age of 15

member Rajendra sunder at the age of 15

member Rajendra sunder at the age of 15 he was 36 21 years older than her the

he was 36 21 years older than her the

he was 36 21 years older than her the Schenker’s toured all over Europe Russia

Schenker’s toured all over Europe Russia

Schenker’s toured all over Europe Russia and the u.s. bringing Indian music and

and the u.s. bringing Indian music and

and the u.s. bringing Indian music and dance to the West for the first time she

dance to the West for the first time she

dance to the West for the first time she was a celebrated star performing

was a celebrated star performing

was a celebrated star performing everywhere it was her dream and at the

everywhere it was her dream and at the

everywhere it was her dream and at the age of 18 she had her first child she

age of 18 she had her first child she

age of 18 she had her first child she was on top of the world starring in

was on top of the world starring in

was on top of the world starring in movies ballets and then at the age of 20

movies ballets and then at the age of 20

movies ballets and then at the age of 20 she was diagnosed with pleurisy and told

she was diagnosed with pleurisy and told

she was diagnosed with pleurisy and told that she could never dance again

that she could never dance again

that she could never dance again but my grandmother refused to step into

but my grandmother refused to step into

but my grandmother refused to step into the shadows so she was destined for the

the shadows so she was destined for the

the shadows so she was destined for the stage she started studying Indian

stage she started studying Indian

stage she started studying Indian classical vocal and within five years

classical vocal and within five years

classical vocal and within five years became one of the top Indian classical

became one of the top Indian classical

became one of the top Indian classical vocalists in India she was a sudden

vocalists in India she was a sudden

vocalists in India she was a sudden shocking breakout star coming out of

shocking breakout star coming out of

shocking breakout star coming out of nowhere she toured all over the country

nowhere she toured all over the country

nowhere she toured all over the country performing in 14 languages and recording

performing in 14 languages and recording

performing in 14 languages and recording multiple albums critics and music

multiple albums critics and music

multiple albums critics and music critics all agreed the chitta melodious

critics all agreed the chitta melodious

critics all agreed the chitta melodious voice in a five octave range

voice in a five octave range

voice in a five octave range my grandmother was 36 and my mother was

my grandmother was 36 and my mother was

my grandmother was 36 and my mother was 10 by all accounts everyone that

10 by all accounts everyone that

10 by all accounts everyone that remembers my mother said she was a

remembers my mother said she was a

remembers my mother said she was a mischievous dreamer with an incredible

mischievous dreamer with an incredible

mischievous dreamer with an incredible voice she grew up up around her mother

voice she grew up up around her mother

voice she grew up up around her mother who was a musician and wanted to follow

who was a musician and wanted to follow

who was a musician and wanted to follow in her footsteps but the family had

in her footsteps but the family had

in her footsteps but the family had other ideas she was a girl they wanted

other ideas she was a girl they wanted

other ideas she was a girl they wanted her to be a proper girl than get married

her to be a proper girl than get married

her to be a proper girl than get married she used to sneak into her room at night

she used to sneak into her room at night

she used to sneak into her room at night and listen to the old radio she’d listen

and listen to the old radio she’d listen

and listen to the old radio she’d listen to the old Bollywood songs and every

to the old Bollywood songs and every

to the old Bollywood songs and every night she’d practice and practice and

night she’d practice and practice and

night she’d practice and practice and listen one night on the radio it was

listen one night on the radio it was

listen one night on the radio it was announced that there was a competition

announced that there was a competition

announced that there was a competition for the biggest radio station in India

for the biggest radio station in India

for the biggest radio station in India that was going across the country

that was going across the country

that was going across the country finding the best singer it was kind of

finding the best singer it was kind of

finding the best singer it was kind of an early version of American Idol

an early version of American Idol

an early version of American Idol my mother snuck out of the house and

my mother snuck out of the house and

my mother snuck out of the house and entered the competition when it came to

entered the competition when it came to

entered the competition when it came to Bombay she was so excited she had never

Bombay she was so excited she had never

Bombay she was so excited she had never been out and sung in public before so

been out and sung in public before so

been out and sung in public before so she entered the auditorium to a young

she entered the auditorium to a young

she entered the auditorium to a young bunch of faces in front of a panel of

bunch of faces in front of a panel of

bunch of faces in front of a panel of judges and she waited and waited and

judges and she waited and waited and

judges and she waited and waited and waited when it was her time to go up on

waited when it was her time to go up on

waited when it was her time to go up on stage she walked up nervously and for

stage she walked up nervously and for

stage she walked up nervously and for the first time outside of her own room

the first time outside of her own room

the first time outside of her own room anonymously in front of a large crowd on

anonymously in front of a large crowd on

anonymously in front of a large crowd on national radio she sang in public

and she won the whole competition my

and she won the whole competition my mother was a starlet overnight just like

mother was a starlet overnight just like

mother was a starlet overnight just like her mother the first prize of the

her mother the first prize of the

her mother the first prize of the competition was for her to record an

competition was for her to record an

competition was for her to record an album she was 19 years old but she never

album she was 19 years old but she never

album she was 19 years old but she never got to finish that record because the

got to finish that record because the

got to finish that record because the family decided that she should go to

family decided that she should go to

family decided that she should go to London to go to beauty school it was

London to go to beauty school it was

London to go to beauty school it was during that time that some Londoners

during that time that some Londoners

during that time that some Londoners come to India the Beatles

come to India the Beatles

come to India the Beatles George Harrison heard some music that

George Harrison heard some music that

George Harrison heard some music that would change his life George Harrison

would change his life George Harrison

would change his life George Harrison and rubbish hunger struck up a musical

and rubbish hunger struck up a musical

and rubbish hunger struck up a musical friendship that would change a cultural

friendship that would change a cultural

friendship that would change a cultural phenomenon this was the moment Indian

phenomenon this was the moment Indian

phenomenon this was the moment Indian music exploded into the West George

music exploded into the West George

music exploded into the West George brought Ravi and 16 members of his

brought Ravi and 16 members of his

brought Ravi and 16 members of his Indian Orchestra to London to record an

Indian Orchestra to London to record an

Indian Orchestra to London to record an album this musical friendship culminated

album this musical friendship culminated

album this musical friendship culminated into the Ravi Shankar Music Festival of

into the Ravi Shankar Music Festival of

into the Ravi Shankar Music Festival of India tour that’s my mother vide in the

India tour that’s my mother vide in the

India tour that’s my mother vide in the blue sari and my grandmother Lakshmi in

blue sari and my grandmother Lakshmi in

blue sari and my grandmother Lakshmi in the green sari they played a huge part

the green sari they played a huge part

the green sari they played a huge part in the tour success performing to large

in the tour success performing to large

in the tour success performing to large audiences every night touring with the

audiences every night touring with the

audiences every night touring with the top pop musicians of the day and revered

top pop musicians of the day and revered

top pop musicians of the day and revered by Hollywood stars I only found out

by Hollywood stars I only found out

by Hollywood stars I only found out recently that my grandmother also

recently that my grandmother also

recently that my grandmother also conducted the orchestras and did

conducted the orchestras and did

conducted the orchestras and did arrangements when Ravi got sick it was

arrangements when Ravi got sick it was

arrangements when Ravi got sick it was there that my mother met my father the

there that my mother met my father the

there that my mother met my father the violin player and soon she was married

violin player and soon she was married

violin player and soon she was married off and then I was born

off and then I was born

off and then I was born my father always wished that I was a boy

my father always wished that I was a boy

my father always wished that I was a boy I’m pretty sure that I was a

I’m pretty sure that I was a

I’m pretty sure that I was a disappointment to him within the first

disappointment to him within the first

disappointment to him within the first seconds of my life

seconds of my life

seconds of my life as he once told me I’m not a boy I can’t

as he once told me I’m not a boy I can’t

as he once told me I’m not a boy I can’t carry his name on and I can’t light his

carry his name on and I can’t light his

carry his name on and I can’t light his cremation fire I always knew that my dad

cremation fire I always knew that my dad

cremation fire I always knew that my dad was a musician but not my mother even

was a musician but not my mother even

was a musician but not my mother even though all my earliest memories of her

though all my earliest memories of her

though all my earliest memories of her were singing when I was 9 and she was 35

were singing when I was 9 and she was 35

were singing when I was 9 and she was 35 my mother was diagnosed with cancer she

my mother was diagnosed with cancer she

my mother was diagnosed with cancer she would go into remission she’d get worse

would go into remission she’d get worse

would go into remission she’d get worse every time a little worst

every time a little worst

every time a little worst I remember in those moments hearing her

I remember in those moments hearing her

I remember in those moments hearing her sing and she was trying to finish this

sing and she was trying to finish this

sing and she was trying to finish this record that she created when she was 19

record that she created when she was 19

record that she created when she was 19 the record she never got to finish she

the record she never got to finish she

the record she never got to finish she never would finish that record last

never would finish that record last

never would finish that record last summer I finally went in to go listen to

summer I finally went in to go listen to

summer I finally went in to go listen to her old recordings recordings that I’d

her old recordings recordings that I’d

her old recordings recordings that I’d put away for a long time

put away for a long time

put away for a long time recordings that I couldn’t listen to

recordings that I couldn’t listen to

recordings that I couldn’t listen to till I was ready and something in me had

till I was ready and something in me had

till I was ready and something in me had changed I realized on the search for my

changed I realized on the search for my

changed I realized on the search for my grandmother that the person I was

grandmother that the person I was

grandmother that the person I was looking for my whole life was my mother

looking for my whole life was my mother

looking for my whole life was my mother she was what was missing she was what I

she was what was missing she was what I

she was what was missing she was what I needed and these recordings these songs

needed and these recordings these songs

needed and these recordings these songs were her in her own voice in her own

were her in her own voice in her own

were her in her own voice in her own words and it finally hit me that I felt

words and it finally hit me that I felt

words and it finally hit me that I felt so many guilt and boundaries being a

so many guilt and boundaries being a

so many guilt and boundaries being a woman in an artist but I saw how they

woman in an artist but I saw how they

woman in an artist but I saw how they struggled and they fought and those

struggled and they fought and those

struggled and they fought and those struggles became mine and having a

struggles became mine and having a

struggles became mine and having a daughter I want nothing more than for

daughter I want nothing more than for

daughter I want nothing more than for her to live her life outside of these

her to live her life outside of these

her to live her life outside of these boundaries there’s this habit that I

boundaries there’s this habit that I

boundaries there’s this habit that I have before I perform I pace I tune my

have before I perform I pace I tune my

have before I perform I pace I tune my instrument I pace I pace some more I

instrument I pace I pace some more I

instrument I pace I pace some more I think I pace out of nervousness out of

think I pace out of nervousness out of

think I pace out of nervousness out of uncertainty that my voice won’t carry

uncertainty that my voice won’t carry

uncertainty that my voice won’t carry forward in those moments I have to think

forward in those moments I have to think

forward in those moments I have to think of my mother’s lullabies her voice

of my mother’s lullabies her voice

of my mother’s lullabies her voice I let them sing through me and carry me

I let them sing through me and carry me

I let them sing through me and carry me through my mother always said women are

through my mother always said women are

through my mother always said women are resilient they will be remembered

resilient they will be remembered

resilient they will be remembered through their songs so I’m gonna leave

through their songs so I’m gonna leave

through their songs so I’m gonna leave you with one of hers

you

you [Music]

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