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so it’s good to be home to where I

so it’s good to be home to where I started my career I spent a little over

started my career I spent a little over

started my career I spent a little over a decade teaching science at Thomas

a decade teaching science at Thomas

a decade teaching science at Thomas Worthington and I now have the pleasure

Worthington and I now have the pleasure

Worthington and I now have the pleasure of working with a group of scientists at

of working with a group of scientists at

of working with a group of scientists at Ohio State that work all over the world

Ohio State that work all over the world

Ohio State that work all over the world to try to understand our climate system

to try to understand our climate system

to try to understand our climate system in polar regions and it’s an exciting

in polar regions and it’s an exciting

in polar regions and it’s an exciting place to work because I get to be a mesh

place to work because I get to be a mesh

place to work because I get to be a mesh within the scientific community and I

within the scientific community and I

within the scientific community and I also get to see what a lot of different

also get to see what a lot of different

also get to see what a lot of different disciplines in the sciences do day to

disciplines in the sciences do day to

disciplines in the sciences do day to day so I wanted to start out with this

day so I wanted to start out with this

day so I wanted to start out with this quote by carl sagan from a few decades

quote by carl sagan from a few decades

quote by carl sagan from a few decades ago that i think unfortunately is still

ago that i think unfortunately is still

ago that i think unfortunately is still very relevant today about three years

very relevant today about three years

very relevant today about three years ago my wife and i purchased a very old

ago my wife and i purchased a very old

ago my wife and i purchased a very old house in the city and is that anybody

house in the city and is that anybody

house in the city and is that anybody knows when you purchase a house you sign

knows when you purchase a house you sign

knows when you purchase a house you sign a lot of documents and one of the

a lot of documents and one of the

a lot of documents and one of the documents you go ahead and you sign

documents you go ahead and you sign

documents you go ahead and you sign deals with lead paint and the lead paint

deals with lead paint and the lead paint

deals with lead paint and the lead paint thats around many houses in the US and

thats around many houses in the US and

thats around many houses in the US and we signed those documents we both

we signed those documents we both

we signed those documents we both renovated houses didn’t think much about

renovated houses didn’t think much about

renovated houses didn’t think much about it during that renovation there’s a

it during that renovation there’s a

it during that renovation there’s a number of precautions we took but there

number of precautions we took but there

number of precautions we took but there was a lot of blood paint chips that were

was a lot of blood paint chips that were

was a lot of blood paint chips that were throughout the house there’s a lot of

throughout the house there’s a lot of

throughout the house there’s a lot of lead paint dust generated and shortly

lead paint dust generated and shortly

lead paint dust generated and shortly after we moved in my daughter was born

after we moved in my daughter was born

after we moved in my daughter was born and during the course of her one-year

and during the course of her one-year

and during the course of her one-year checkup we came to find out that she had

checkup we came to find out that she had

checkup we came to find out that she had an elevated lead level something that we

an elevated lead level something that we

an elevated lead level something that we didn’t expect and we were very surprised

didn’t expect and we were very surprised

didn’t expect and we were very surprised because we thought we had taken the

because we thought we had taken the

because we thought we had taken the right precautions which took me to

right precautions which took me to

right precautions which took me to re-examine some of the work that I had

re-examine some of the work that I had

re-examine some of the work that I had done and some of the challenges that we

done and some of the challenges that we

done and some of the challenges that we were going to face with her health and

were going to face with her health and

were going to face with her health and some of the challenges I faced try to

some of the challenges I faced try to

some of the challenges I faced try to communicate scientific information Ohio

communicate scientific information Ohio

communicate scientific information Ohio State every day in democracy and

State every day in democracy and

State every day in democracy and capitalism there’s two boxes that are

capitalism there’s two boxes that are

capitalism there’s two boxes that are critically important to making decisions

critically important to making decisions

critically important to making decisions and one of those is the ballot box and

and one of those is the ballot box and

and one of those is the ballot box and where we vote for individuals and

where we vote for individuals and

where we vote for individuals and initiatives the second is where we make

initiatives the second is where we make

initiatives the second is where we make decisions every day and that’s the cash

decisions every day and that’s the cash

decisions every day and that’s the cash box places we spend our dollars and we

box places we spend our dollars and we

box places we spend our dollars and we make those decisions we need accurate

make those decisions we need accurate

make those decisions we need accurate information to make those decisions and

information to make those decisions and

information to make those decisions and there’s a number of vehicles we have to

there’s a number of vehicles we have to

there’s a number of vehicles we have to help us make informed decisions one of

help us make informed decisions one of

help us make informed decisions one of those is investigative journalism that

those is investigative journalism that

those is investigative journalism that should give us information about how our

should give us information about how our

should give us information about how our public discourse is operating things

public discourse is operating things

public discourse is operating things that are happening in science business

that are happening in science business

that are happening in science business government the public arena and the

government the public arena and the

government the public arena and the second is science how we go to better

second is science how we go to better

second is science how we go to better understand our natural world and

understand our natural world and

understand our natural world and hopefully use that information to make

hopefully use that information to make

hopefully use that information to make informed decisions about what we’re

informed decisions about what we’re

informed decisions about what we’re doing day to day I’d like to speak a bit

doing day to day I’d like to speak a bit

doing day to day I’d like to speak a bit about science today and how science

about science today and how science

about science today and how science operates for many people you don’t

operates for many people you don’t

operates for many people you don’t realize how much science is impacting

realize how much science is impacting

realize how much science is impacting your everyday life

your everyday life

your everyday life I think there’s an appreciation now for

I think there’s an appreciation now for

I think there’s an appreciation now for the devices we have in our pockets and

the devices we have in our pockets and

the devices we have in our pockets and and how those would have been considered

and how those would have been considered

and how those would have been considered supercomputers three decades ago but we

supercomputers three decades ago but we

supercomputers three decades ago but we also interact with science and a lot of

also interact with science and a lot of

also interact with science and a lot of superficial levels everyday and we don’t

superficial levels everyday and we don’t

superficial levels everyday and we don’t understand the complexity happening

understand the complexity happening

understand the complexity happening below the surface and one of those is

below the surface and one of those is

below the surface and one of those is our weather forecast

our weather forecast

our weather forecast most people when you look at a weather

most people when you look at a weather

most people when you look at a weather forecast on the newspaper TV or radio

forecast on the newspaper TV or radio

forecast on the newspaper TV or radio will think that that forecast is coming

will think that that forecast is coming

will think that that forecast is coming from the agency where you’re watching it

from the agency where you’re watching it

from the agency where you’re watching it the news the newspaper or the online

the news the newspaper or the online

the news the newspaper or the online feed but really they’re just reimaging

feed but really they’re just reimaging

feed but really they’re just reimaging and making data accessible that was

and making data accessible that was

and making data accessible that was created by a government agency and a

created by a government agency and a

created by a government agency and a much bigger scientific community and

much bigger scientific community and

much bigger scientific community and that much bigger scientific community is

that much bigger scientific community is

that much bigger scientific community is the National Weather Service so every

the National Weather Service so every

the National Weather Service so every day there are weather balloons deployed

day there are weather balloons deployed

day there are weather balloons deployed throughout the US we have very complex

throughout the US we have very complex

throughout the US we have very complex satellites that collect data there’s a

satellites that collect data there’s a

satellites that collect data there’s a research community’s going ahead and

research community’s going ahead and

research community’s going ahead and improving the modeling techniques that

improving the modeling techniques that

improving the modeling techniques that we have available and the National

we have available and the National

we have available and the National Weather Service and NOAA provide us with

Weather Service and NOAA provide us with

Weather Service and NOAA provide us with the forecasts that then our news media

the forecasts that then our news media

the forecasts that then our news media goes ahead and provides in a format

goes ahead and provides in a format

goes ahead and provides in a format that’s easier for us to understand but

that’s easier for us to understand but

that’s easier for us to understand but there’s a lot of science below the

there’s a lot of science below the

there’s a lot of science below the surface that we don’t maybe appreciate

surface that we don’t maybe appreciate

surface that we don’t maybe appreciate how those tax dollars are put to work if

how those tax dollars are put to work if

how those tax dollars are put to work if you ask the average student and you ask

you ask the average student and you ask

you ask the average student and you ask them to draw a picture of a scientist

them to draw a picture of a scientist

them to draw a picture of a scientist typically the picture you’ll get is a

typically the picture you’ll get is a

typically the picture you’ll get is a disheveled person in a lab coat maybe

disheveled person in a lab coat maybe

disheveled person in a lab coat maybe some beakers in the background

some beakers in the background

some beakers in the background typically a white male and this is quite

typically a white male and this is quite

typically a white male and this is quite a bit of research in this arena

a bit of research in this arena

a bit of research in this arena if you probe and prod a bit more maybe

if you probe and prod a bit more maybe

if you probe and prod a bit more maybe ask young adults or adults they’ll say

ask young adults or adults they’ll say

ask young adults or adults they’ll say it’s a collection of facts textbooks

it’s a collection of facts textbooks

it’s a collection of facts textbooks things that they learned in school they

things that they learned in school they

things that they learned in school they may even can point to the textbook they

may even can point to the textbook they

may even can point to the textbook they used and if you poke and prod a bit more

used and if you poke and prod a bit more

used and if you poke and prod a bit more you’ll get answers as though it’s it’s

you’ll get answers as though it’s it’s

you’ll get answers as though it’s it’s crazy apparatus it’s an experiment an

crazy apparatus it’s an experiment an

crazy apparatus it’s an experiment an explosion something happening with

explosion something happening with

explosion something happening with flames and if you keep prodding you’ll

flames and if you keep prodding you’ll

flames and if you keep prodding you’ll typically get a reference to the

typically get a reference to the

typically get a reference to the scientific method chapter one of most

scientific method chapter one of most

scientific method chapter one of most high school ninth grade textbooks you

high school ninth grade textbooks you

high school ninth grade textbooks you know a method that most scientists that

know a method that most scientists that

know a method that most scientists that work in the arena would argue nobody

work in the arena would argue nobody

work in the arena would argue nobody follows verbatim some people test

follows verbatim some people test

follows verbatim some people test hypotheses many people I work with don’t

hypotheses many people I work with don’t

hypotheses many people I work with don’t everybody does something in this process

everybody does something in this process

everybody does something in this process and there’s a philosophical underpinning

and there’s a philosophical underpinning

and there’s a philosophical underpinning but nobody actually follows this step

but nobody actually follows this step

but nobody actually follows this step this process lockstep this is a more

this process lockstep this is a more

this process lockstep this is a more accurate portrayal the science I deal

accurate portrayal the science I deal

accurate portrayal the science I deal with every day it’s largely based on

with every day it’s largely based on

with every day it’s largely based on communication we have to get together as

communication we have to get together as

communication we have to get together as a team write a proposal find funding

a team write a proposal find funding

a team write a proposal find funding that funding has to be used to fund the

that funding has to be used to fund the

that funding has to be used to fund the science and pay for the work that’s

science and pay for the work that’s

science and pay for the work that’s being done we have to get together in

being done we have to get together in

being done we have to get together in meetings and figure out how to approach

meetings and figure out how to approach

meetings and figure out how to approach an experiment how to collect data how to

an experiment how to collect data how to

an experiment how to collect data how to share information what are the conclude

share information what are the conclude

share information what are the conclude mean are there any assumptions we

mean are there any assumptions we

mean are there any assumptions we haven’t thought about you create posters

haven’t thought about you create posters

haven’t thought about you create posters and set seminar talks you share that

and set seminar talks you share that

and set seminar talks you share that information more you write manuscripts

information more you write manuscripts

information more you write manuscripts you publish but also there’s data this

you publish but also there’s data this

you publish but also there’s data this all has to be based on and that data is

all has to be based on and that data is

all has to be based on and that data is collected for us in the field and also

collected for us in the field and also

collected for us in the field and also in the laboratory now this process is

in the laboratory now this process is

in the laboratory now this process is quite old and motiva because most people

quite old and motiva because most people

quite old and motiva because most people don’t realize how how long the

don’t realize how how long the

don’t realize how how long the scientific process has been around the

scientific process has been around the

scientific process has been around the formal process we follow today it was

formal process we follow today it was

formal process we follow today it was natural philosophy it largely stems from

natural philosophy it largely stems from

natural philosophy it largely stems from Sir Francis Bacon in the 15 and 1602 who

Sir Francis Bacon in the 15 and 1602 who

Sir Francis Bacon in the 15 and 1602 who said that we couldn’t just base our

said that we couldn’t just base our

said that we couldn’t just base our scientific conclusions on philosophy we

scientific conclusions on philosophy we

scientific conclusions on philosophy we had to have observable facts we had to

had to have observable facts we had to

had to have observable facts we had to use our five senses and those five

use our five senses and those five

use our five senses and those five senses had to inform what we were doing

senses had to inform what we were doing

senses had to inform what we were doing we had to be able to refute the

we had to be able to refute the

we had to be able to refute the information we are coming up with we had

information we are coming up with we had

information we are coming up with we had to be able to share it out and at the

to be able to share it out and at the

to be able to share it out and at the same time the Royal Society in England

same time the Royal Society in England

same time the Royal Society in England was created for people doing research to

was created for people doing research to

was created for people doing research to share out their results with the

share out their results with the

share out their results with the community and with themselves to push

community and with themselves to push

community and with themselves to push themselves ahead to publish their

themselves ahead to publish their

themselves ahead to publish their results now realize these people were

results now realize these people were

results now realize these people were largely aristocrats or people they’re

largely aristocrats or people they’re

largely aristocrats or people they’re able to find favor with wealthy

able to find favor with wealthy

able to find favor with wealthy individuals or royalty but it’s at the

individuals or royalty but it’s at the

individuals or royalty but it’s at the stage for the scientific community we

stage for the scientific community we

stage for the scientific community we see currently and then we saw some

see currently and then we saw some

see currently and then we saw some advancements in our own country and one

advancements in our own country and one

advancements in our own country and one that surprises most people is the

that surprises most people is the

that surprises most people is the development of the National Academies of

development of the National Academies of

development of the National Academies of science which is still present in the

science which is still present in the

science which is still present in the u.s. today the National Academies was

u.s. today the National Academies was

u.s. today the National Academies was started by Abraham Lincoln and Abraham

started by Abraham Lincoln and Abraham

started by Abraham Lincoln and Abraham Lincoln was challenged with a difficult

Lincoln was challenged with a difficult

Lincoln was challenged with a difficult scientific problem which is to develop a

scientific problem which is to develop a

scientific problem which is to develop a magnetic compass to work in an iron

magnetic compass to work in an iron

magnetic compass to work in an iron sighted ship a place that would normally

sighted ship a place that would normally

sighted ship a place that would normally interfere with the compass that was

interfere with the compass that was

interfere with the compass that was developed and they were having problems

developed and they were having problems

developed and they were having problems they couldn’t find a company or

they couldn’t find a company or

they couldn’t find a company or individual to develop this device so he

individual to develop this device so he

individual to develop this device so he went to the scientific community

went to the scientific community

went to the scientific community he created an all-volunteer group that

he created an all-volunteer group that

he created an all-volunteer group that would elect the next generation of

would elect the next generation of

would elect the next generation of researchers but the intent was to make

researchers but the intent was to make

researchers but the intent was to make sure that nobody was biased was nobody

sure that nobody was biased was nobody

sure that nobody was biased was nobody was there to get money off the system

was there to get money off the system

was there to get money off the system they were there to develop the best

they were there to develop the best

they were there to develop the best understanding with the current signs we

understanding with the current signs we

understanding with the current signs we had and the National Academy still

had and the National Academy still

had and the National Academy still exists today and any time the US

exists today and any time the US

exists today and any time the US government has a challenging problem

government has a challenging problem

government has a challenging problem that we can’t find an answer to we turn

that we can’t find an answer to we turn

that we can’t find an answer to we turn to the National Academies to distill

to the National Academies to distill

to the National Academies to distill down the best science that’s out there

following World War two we saw the

following World War two we saw the opening of science in the US there’s

opening of science in the US there’s

opening of science in the US there’s been so much that have been done

been so much that have been done

been so much that have been done preceding World War two and so much

preceding World War two and so much

preceding World War two and so much investment in science that the US had

investment in science that the US had

investment in science that the US had had they decided they need to open up

had they decided they need to open up

had they decided they need to open up funding for researchers that are outside

funding for researchers that are outside

funding for researchers that are outside the typical method

the typical method

the typical method most research as I mentioned have been

most research as I mentioned have been

most research as I mentioned have been funded by wealthy aristocrats royalty

funded by wealthy aristocrats royalty

funded by wealthy aristocrats royalty philanthropists at this point the US

philanthropists at this point the US

philanthropists at this point the US government invested a lot more money and

government invested a lot more money and

government invested a lot more money and we saw research centers like my so the

we saw research centers like my so the

we saw research centers like my so the current one at work at an Ohio State

current one at work at an Ohio State

current one at work at an Ohio State able to go ahead and have their own

able to go ahead and have their own

able to go ahead and have their own projects and research initiatives but

projects and research initiatives but

projects and research initiatives but still we have this misconception every

still we have this misconception every

still we have this misconception every day that science is this linear progress

day that science is this linear progress

day that science is this linear progress process if we look in a textbook we’ll

process if we look in a textbook we’ll

process if we look in a textbook we’ll see this time line the advancement of

see this time line the advancement of

see this time line the advancement of science a few things to consider the

science a few things to consider the

science a few things to consider the process we see has false starts has dead

process we see has false starts has dead

process we see has false starts has dead ends

ends

ends sometimes disciplines fold back in on

sometimes disciplines fold back in on

sometimes disciplines fold back in on themselves the process never ends so the

themselves the process never ends so the

themselves the process never ends so the the timeline that we see shows an ending

the timeline that we see shows an ending

the timeline that we see shows an ending but it never reaches an end we keep

but it never reaches an end we keep

but it never reaches an end we keep advancing our knowledge even with that

advancing our knowledge even with that

advancing our knowledge even with that advancement of knowledge we have to make

advancement of knowledge we have to make

advancement of knowledge we have to make decisions with the best information we

decisions with the best information we

decisions with the best information we have today be at best it’s the best we

have today be at best it’s the best we

have today be at best it’s the best we have even if it’s not final now I’d be

have even if it’s not final now I’d be

have even if it’s not final now I’d be remiss to say that science isn’t perfect

remiss to say that science isn’t perfect

remiss to say that science isn’t perfect we have seen charlatans we have seen

we have seen charlatans we have seen

we have seen charlatans we have seen individuals published information was

individuals published information was

individuals published information was fraudulent the data was shown to be

fraudulent the data was shown to be

fraudulent the data was shown to be invalidated such as the idea that

invalidated such as the idea that

invalidated such as the idea that vaccines would contribute to autism

vaccines would contribute to autism

vaccines would contribute to autism we’ve had individuals steal scientific

we’ve had individuals steal scientific

we’ve had individuals steal scientific data to discern the structure of DNA

data to discern the structure of DNA

data to discern the structure of DNA egos coming in the way of scientific

egos coming in the way of scientific

egos coming in the way of scientific work and ends justifying the means

work and ends justifying the means

work and ends justifying the means nonetheless science is a human process

nonetheless science is a human process

nonetheless science is a human process and we eventually get to truth

and we eventually get to truth

and we eventually get to truth fraudulent data bad information is

fraudulent data bad information is

fraudulent data bad information is eventually found out and as I worked at

eventually found out and as I worked at

eventually found out and as I worked at our Center I’ve learned the complexity

our Center I’ve learned the complexity

our Center I’ve learned the complexity of information the role that science has

of information the role that science has

of information the role that science has had in our policymaking arena I’ll start

had in our policymaking arena I’ll start

had in our policymaking arena I’ll start out with lead paint his lead paints

out with lead paint his lead paints

out with lead paint his lead paints what’s most affected my family recently

what’s most affected my family recently

what’s most affected my family recently and he’ll be started to try to figure

and he’ll be started to try to figure

and he’ll be started to try to figure out was it LED paint dust was it toys

out was it LED paint dust was it toys

out was it LED paint dust was it toys that were painted with lead paint that

that were painted with lead paint that

that were painted with lead paint that were brought in over from overseas was

were brought in over from overseas was

were brought in over from overseas was it lead pipes that were leading into our

it lead pipes that were leading into our

it lead pipes that were leading into our houses we found out that there’s

houses we found out that there’s

houses we found out that there’s actually a very complex history to lead

actually a very complex history to lead

actually a very complex history to lead that’s well understood and that a lot of

that’s well understood and that a lot of

that’s well understood and that a lot of decisions and science hadn’t been taken

decisions and science hadn’t been taken

decisions and science hadn’t been taken into account our first understanding of

into account our first understanding of

into account our first understanding of lead and lead paints is from the

lead and lead paints is from the

lead and lead paints is from the eighteen and 1900s early 1900s and that

eighteen and 1900s early 1900s and that

eighteen and 1900s early 1900s and that information and European countries led

information and European countries led

information and European countries led to the banning of lead paint whitening

to the banning of lead paint whitening

to the banning of lead paint whitening agents that were led based most paints

agents that were led based most paints

agents that were led based most paints by the 1920s now my house was built in

by the 1920s now my house was built in

by the 1920s now my house was built in 1908 so it’s very likely if these had

1908 so it’s very likely if these had

1908 so it’s very likely if these had also been banned in the u.s. my house

also been banned in the u.s. my house

also been banned in the u.s. my house would have never been painted white the

would have never been painted white the

would have never been painted white the insides the wood trim and we would have

insides the wood trim and we would have

insides the wood trim and we would have no paint let pain issue but come to find

no paint let pain issue but come to find

no paint let pain issue but come to find out in our own country

out in our own country

out in our own country didn’t decide to adopt a man until the

didn’t decide to adopt a man until the

didn’t decide to adopt a man until the early 70s and that abandoned go into

early 70s and that abandoned go into

early 70s and that abandoned go into effect into the late 70s dramatically

effect into the late 70s dramatically

effect into the late 70s dramatically affecting my family’s life

affecting my family’s life

affecting my family’s life also realizing that in Columbus there

also realizing that in Columbus there

also realizing that in Columbus there are many houses and many large cities

are many houses and many large cities

are many houses and many large cities throughout the u.s. that have a similar

throughout the u.s. that have a similar

throughout the u.s. that have a similar problem

problem

problem what about CFCs growing up as a child I

what about CFCs growing up as a child I

what about CFCs growing up as a child I remember seeing this in my textbooks all

remember seeing this in my textbooks all

remember seeing this in my textbooks all the time there’s information about

the time there’s information about

the time there’s information about statues that were being discolored or

statues that were being discolored or

statues that were being discolored or disintegrating in large cities we saw a

disintegrating in large cities we saw a

disintegrating in large cities we saw a lot of places out in the eastern US that

lot of places out in the eastern US that

lot of places out in the eastern US that had contaminated watersheds we knew

had contaminated watersheds we knew

had contaminated watersheds we knew about CFCs in the 70s and the scientific

about CFCs in the 70s and the scientific

about CFCs in the 70s and the scientific consensus was pretty clear and we had

consensus was pretty clear and we had

consensus was pretty clear and we had adopted a public policy to deal with

adopted a public policy to deal with

adopted a public policy to deal with this by the late 80s now it’s kind of

this by the late 80s now it’s kind of

this by the late 80s now it’s kind of fallen on a vote today we don’t hear too

fallen on a vote today we don’t hear too

fallen on a vote today we don’t hear too much about it that hole hasn’t

much about it that hole hasn’t

much about it that hole hasn’t disappeared it’s still there and it will

disappeared it’s still there and it will

disappeared it’s still there and it will eventually close we had a success story

eventually close we had a success story

eventually close we had a success story led by the United States acid rain

led by the United States acid rain

led by the United States acid rain another example in this case there was

another example in this case there was

another example in this case there was data that came in from the early 60s and

data that came in from the early 60s and

data that came in from the early 60s and by the nineteen 1995 we had happen trade

by the nineteen 1995 we had happen trade

by the nineteen 1995 we had happen trade system that allowed us to go ahead and

system that allowed us to go ahead and

system that allowed us to go ahead and deal with the the acid rain situation

deal with the the acid rain situation

deal with the the acid rain situation smoking something that a lot of

smoking something that a lot of

smoking something that a lot of consensus has been reached and by early

consensus has been reached and by early

consensus has been reached and by early 60s the Surgeon General had created a

60s the Surgeon General had created a

60s the Surgeon General had created a document that summarized all of our

document that summarized all of our

document that summarized all of our findings about cigarette smoke the

findings about cigarette smoke the

findings about cigarette smoke the contribution to things like lung cancer

contribution to things like lung cancer

contribution to things like lung cancer and by 1998 there was a settlement but

and by 1998 there was a settlement but

and by 1998 there was a settlement but in that settlement we found something

in that settlement we found something

in that settlement we found something out about the process that a lot of

out about the process that a lot of

out about the process that a lot of industries invested int’rested used in

industries invested int’rested used in

industries invested int’rested used in the u.s. to try to debunk the science we

the u.s. to try to debunk the science we

the u.s. to try to debunk the science we found out there was a very clear

found out there was a very clear

found out there was a very clear understanding of the contribution

understanding of the contribution

understanding of the contribution between smoking and lung cancer and

between smoking and lung cancer and

between smoking and lung cancer and other health issues but that information

other health issues but that information

other health issues but that information was buried there was an active vehicle

was buried there was an active vehicle

was buried there was an active vehicle of communication that had been used to

of communication that had been used to

of communication that had been used to try to make the science unclear to

try to make the science unclear to

try to make the science unclear to attack with scientific research done in

attack with scientific research done in

attack with scientific research done in the universities around the u.s. and in

the universities around the u.s. and in

the universities around the u.s. and in some cases to attack individuals which

some cases to attack individuals which

some cases to attack individuals which takes us to the place that I operate day

takes us to the place that I operate day

takes us to the place that I operate day to day climate change still a very

to day climate change still a very

to day climate change still a very contentious issue in United States but

contentious issue in United States but

contentious issue in United States but unique to the United States and that no

unique to the United States and that no

unique to the United States and that no other country is currently having the

other country is currently having the

other country is currently having the same discussion we are now I could show

same discussion we are now I could show

same discussion we are now I could show lots and lots and lots of information on

lots and lots and lots of information on

lots and lots and lots of information on this but the summary is to look at the

this but the summary is to look at the

this but the summary is to look at the past and say our scientific

past and say our scientific

past and say our scientific understanding of climate change is quite

understanding of climate change is quite

understanding of climate change is quite clear and quite old as early as the

clear and quite old as early as the

clear and quite old as early as the 1700s we had an understanding of the

1700s we had an understanding of the

1700s we had an understanding of the greenhouse effect we understood and

greenhouse effect we understood and

greenhouse effect we understood and Sarge calculate how much the warming

Sarge calculate how much the warming

Sarge calculate how much the warming could be we started to go ahead and

could be we started to go ahead and

could be we started to go ahead and monitor co2 and how much mana there was

monitor co2 and how much mana there was

monitor co2 and how much mana there was in the atmosphere

in the atmosphere

in the atmosphere and that consensus would become clear

and that consensus would become clear

and that consensus would become clear enough that by the 1980s the modeling

enough that by the 1980s the modeling

enough that by the 1980s the modeling community and the atmospheric sciences

community and the atmospheric sciences

community and the atmospheric sciences started to understand what we expected

started to understand what we expected

started to understand what we expected the warming to be and started publishing

the warming to be and started publishing

the warming to be and started publishing papers on this currently many of the

papers on this currently many of the

papers on this currently many of the people that led those initiatives have

people that led those initiatives have

people that led those initiatives have since passed away the science is so old

since passed away the science is so old

since passed away the science is so old this is almost three decades ago that

this is almost three decades ago that

this is almost three decades ago that we’ve had consensus on climate change

we’ve had consensus on climate change

we’ve had consensus on climate change additional information came from other

additional information came from other

additional information came from other disciplines by the 90s in the early 90s

disciplines by the 90s in the early 90s

disciplines by the 90s in the early 90s we saw the Kyoto Protocol go into place

we saw the Kyoto Protocol go into place

we saw the Kyoto Protocol go into place unfortunately this initial international

unfortunately this initial international

unfortunately this initial international effort had some countries including the

effort had some countries including the

effort had some countries including the United States not sign up and so those

United States not sign up and so those

United States not sign up and so those mandatory effects never took place which

mandatory effects never took place which

mandatory effects never took place which led us to last December actually

led us to last December actually

led us to last December actually December 1996 when we had the Paris

December 1996 when we had the Paris

December 1996 when we had the Paris agreement and the Paris agreement was

agreement and the Paris agreement was

agreement and the Paris agreement was designed to be a step voluntary step in

designed to be a step voluntary step in

designed to be a step voluntary step in the right direction in the arena where I

the right direction in the arena where I

the right direction in the arena where I sit there are questions of whether this

sit there are questions of whether this

sit there are questions of whether this will get us where we want to be and we

will get us where we want to be and we

will get us where we want to be and we as all countries have agreed to have

as all countries have agreed to have

as all countries have agreed to have warming no greater than two degrees

warming no greater than two degrees

warming no greater than two degrees Celsius it will be difficult to reach

Celsius it will be difficult to reach

Celsius it will be difficult to reach that target so I’d like to show you an

that target so I’d like to show you an

that target so I’d like to show you an image of what changes we’ve seen on the

image of what changes we’ve seen on the

image of what changes we’ve seen on the earth already one thing we can look at

earth already one thing we can look at

earth already one thing we can look at is temperature changes and in the

is temperature changes and in the

is temperature changes and in the observable period since the 1880s we’ve

observable period since the 1880s we’ve

observable period since the 1880s we’ve seen a change in the planet you’ll see

seen a change in the planet you’ll see

seen a change in the planet you’ll see this become most pronounced in the 1960s

this become most pronounced in the 1960s

this become most pronounced in the 1960s areas that are orange are warmer than

areas that are orange are warmer than

areas that are orange are warmer than average areas that are blue are colder

average areas that are blue are colder

average areas that are blue are colder than average you see a dramatic impact

than average you see a dramatic impact

than average you see a dramatic impact especially in the Arctic and this is

especially in the Arctic and this is

especially in the Arctic and this is just one measure the changes we’ve

just one measure the changes we’ve

just one measure the changes we’ve already experienced changes that the

already experienced changes that the

already experienced changes that the scientific community has a very strong

scientific community has a very strong

scientific community has a very strong sense of I could show you other pictures

sense of I could show you other pictures

sense of I could show you other pictures of ice I could show you changes in

of ice I could show you changes in

of ice I could show you changes in precipitation patterns crow bleaching

precipitation patterns crow bleaching

precipitation patterns crow bleaching you can read about in the paper this

you can read about in the paper this

you can read about in the paper this week but that’s just one example which

week but that’s just one example which

week but that’s just one example which leads us to look below the surface if

leads us to look below the surface if

leads us to look below the surface if that’s what our temperature says we are

that’s what our temperature says we are

that’s what our temperature says we are what’s the checkup what other

what’s the checkup what other

what’s the checkup what other information if we start to poke and prod

information if we start to poke and prod

information if we start to poke and prod below the surface and the teams where I

below the surface and the teams where I

below the surface and the teams where I work look at ice and as you look at that

work look at ice and as you look at that

work look at ice and as you look at that ice back 800,000 years we’ve seen that

ice back 800,000 years we’ve seen that

ice back 800,000 years we’ve seen that temperature and co2 levels follow very

temperature and co2 levels follow very

temperature and co2 levels follow very closely in tandem with one another if we

closely in tandem with one another if we

closely in tandem with one another if we look into where we are today right now

look into where we are today right now

look into where we are today right now we’re at 400 parts per million we’ve

we’re at 400 parts per million we’ve

we’re at 400 parts per million we’ve never been at that level in the last

never been at that level in the last

never been at that level in the last three million years it’s a very

three million years it’s a very

three million years it’s a very different system we’re entering than we

different system we’re entering than we

different system we’re entering than we used to be but as a good doctor

used to be but as a good doctor

used to be but as a good doctor you also want to ask what is the

you also want to ask what is the

you also want to ask what is the prognosis of your patient where are you

prognosis of your patient where are you

prognosis of your patient where are you headed and that prognosis at this point

headed and that prognosis at this point

headed and that prognosis at this point looks somewhat tenuous we could be

looks somewhat tenuous we could be

looks somewhat tenuous we could be heading into a realm of 900 to 1100

heading into a realm of 900 to 1100

heading into a realm of 900 to 1100 parts per million which day is very

parts per million which day is very

parts per million which day is very difficult for the atmospheric sciences

difficult for the atmospheric sciences

difficult for the atmospheric sciences community to understand what that would

community to understand what that would

community to understand what that would look like and how dramatically different

look like and how dramatically different

look like and how dramatically different our system would be with that many much

our system would be with that many much

our system would be with that many much co2 in the atmosphere so a much

co2 in the atmosphere so a much

co2 in the atmosphere so a much different system how should we respond

different system how should we respond

different system how should we respond what should we as individuals agencies

what should we as individuals agencies

what should we as individuals agencies communities do so I go back to the two

communities do so I go back to the two

communities do so I go back to the two different boxes that dictate things and

different boxes that dictate things and

different boxes that dictate things and democracy in capitals and places we make

democracy in capitals and places we make

democracy in capitals and places we make decisions on what we should do we all

decisions on what we should do we all

decisions on what we should do we all have to look out for our children and

have to look out for our children and

have to look out for our children and with climate change it’s not so much

with climate change it’s not so much

with climate change it’s not so much looking out for ourselves as the next

looking out for ourselves as the next

looking out for ourselves as the next generation because inevitably our youth

generation because inevitably our youth

generation because inevitably our youth will end up inheriting the problems we

will end up inheriting the problems we

will end up inheriting the problems we create these are problems that don’t go

create these are problems that don’t go

create these are problems that don’t go back in the box

back in the box

back in the box co2 less than the atmosphere for

co2 less than the atmosphere for

co2 less than the atmosphere for centuries to millennia so there’s no way

centuries to millennia so there’s no way

centuries to millennia so there’s no way to Superfund site your way out of this

to Superfund site your way out of this

to Superfund site your way out of this the problem will be there be very

the problem will be there be very

the problem will be there be very difficult to deal with

difficult to deal with

difficult to deal with there’s also inertia in the system it

there’s also inertia in the system it

there’s also inertia in the system it takes 30 years for the warming to be

takes 30 years for the warming to be

takes 30 years for the warming to be fully fell so we are feeling the last

fully fell so we are feeling the last

fully fell so we are feeling the last effects of emissions for the 1980s

effects of emissions for the 1980s

effects of emissions for the 1980s so what will my daughter inherit what

so what will my daughter inherit what

so what will my daughter inherit what does the world look like for her we also

does the world look like for her we also

does the world look like for her we also have to realize there are a lot of

have to realize there are a lot of

have to realize there are a lot of people in the world that are much more

people in the world that are much more

people in the world that are much more vulnerable people that live in the

vulnerable people that live in the

vulnerable people that live in the United States and elsewhere working in

United States and elsewhere working in

United States and elsewhere working in Mumbai that some of them at live at sea

Mumbai that some of them at live at sea

Mumbai that some of them at live at sea level or the live in inland areas whose

level or the live in inland areas whose

level or the live in inland areas whose water tables being brought down each of

water tables being brought down each of

water tables being brought down each of them hope for a bright future for their

them hope for a bright future for their

them hope for a bright future for their children each of them aren’t a statistic

children each of them aren’t a statistic

children each of them aren’t a statistic on a table or a number on a graph but

on a table or a number on a graph but

on a table or a number on a graph but they all want bright futures and those

they all want bright futures and those

they all want bright futures and those bright futures are put in peril by

bright futures are put in peril by

bright futures are put in peril by decisions many of us are making halfway

decisions many of us are making halfway

decisions many of us are making halfway around the world so I wanted to close

around the world so I wanted to close

around the world so I wanted to close with a quote close quote by Isaac Asimov

with a quote close quote by Isaac Asimov

with a quote close quote by Isaac Asimov a quote that’s by somebody who’s a

a quote that’s by somebody who’s a

a quote that’s by somebody who’s a biochemist he happened to be a very

biochemist he happened to be a very

biochemist he happened to be a very famous science fiction writer the

famous science fiction writer the

famous science fiction writer the saddest aspect of life right now is that

saddest aspect of life right now is that

saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than

science gathers knowledge faster than

science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom and my hope is by

society gathers wisdom and my hope is by

society gathers wisdom and my hope is by sharing this information that many

sharing this information that many

sharing this information that many people in this room can take action in

people in this room can take action in

people in this room can take action in order to relegate this quote to the

order to relegate this quote to the

order to relegate this quote to the dustbin of history thank

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