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I’m Proud of Lying to Your Doctor | Andrew Roblyer | TEDxTAMU


two years ago I was sitting in a

two years ago I was sitting in a hospital room waiting for doctors and

hospital room waiting for doctors and

hospital room waiting for doctors and nurses to come in my attention was foken

nurses to come in my attention was foken

nurses to come in my attention was foken s focused on a bassinet beside me my

s focused on a bassinet beside me my

s focused on a bassinet beside me my mother was bent over that bassinets

mother was bent over that bassinets

mother was bent over that bassinets because inside of it was my

because inside of it was my

because inside of it was my three-month-old daughter Hannah 24 hours

three-month-old daughter Hannah 24 hours

three-month-old daughter Hannah 24 hours earlier Hannah had been brought to the

earlier Hannah had been brought to the

earlier Hannah had been brought to the ER by her nanny because she had drowned

ER by her nanny because she had drowned

ER by her nanny because she had drowned in the bath when I arrived at the ER a

in the bath when I arrived at the ER a

in the bath when I arrived at the ER a couple hours later after I found out

couple hours later after I found out

couple hours later after I found out they informed me that they actually

they informed me that they actually

they informed me that they actually suspected the nanny of shaking her and

suspected the nanny of shaking her and

suspected the nanny of shaking her and drowning her to try and cover it up but

drowning her to try and cover it up but

drowning her to try and cover it up but none of that mattered in the moment

none of that mattered in the moment

none of that mattered in the moment because the end result was the same

because the end result was the same

because the end result was the same Hannah had no brain function at least

Hannah had no brain function at least

Hannah had no brain function at least that’s what they told me then because of

that’s what they told me then because of

that’s what they told me then because of how young she was they had to wait 24

how young she was they had to wait 24

how young she was they had to wait 24 hours and perform the same brain

hours and perform the same brain

hours and perform the same brain function tests again to ensure that she

function tests again to ensure that she

function tests again to ensure that she was actually dead so we waited my wife

was actually dead so we waited my wife

was actually dead so we waited my wife was in the Navy and was deployed on a

was in the Navy and was deployed on a

was in the Navy and was deployed on a ship at the time so she wasn’t going to

ship at the time so she wasn’t going to

ship at the time so she wasn’t going to make it back in time despite her best

make it back in time despite her best

make it back in time despite her best efforts so my mom was there with me

efforts so my mom was there with me

efforts so my mom was there with me about 20 hours later the doctors and the

about 20 hours later the doctors and the

about 20 hours later the doctors and the nurses came back into the room performed

nurses came back into the room performed

nurses came back into the room performed their tests again and told us the news

their tests again and told us the news

their tests again and told us the news Hannah was gone

Hannah was gone

Hannah was gone anguish is the best word that I can

anguish is the best word that I can

anguish is the best word that I can think of to describe the emotion that I

think of to describe the emotion that I

think of to describe the emotion that I felt right then but I also remember a

felt right then but I also remember a

felt right then but I also remember a lot about the nurses in the room I

lot about the nurses in the room I

lot about the nurses in the room I remember that they didn’t really know

remember that they didn’t really know

remember that they didn’t really know how to handle me or this situation a

how to handle me or this situation a

how to handle me or this situation a couple of them were standing over in the

couple of them were standing over in the

couple of them were standing over in the corner they were quiet seemed frozen in

corner they were quiet seemed frozen in

corner they were quiet seemed frozen in place not sure what to do or say one of

place not sure what to do or say one of

place not sure what to do or say one of them came over and tried to comfort me

them came over and tried to comfort me

them came over and tried to comfort me by putting her hand on my shoulder and I

by putting her hand on my shoulder and I

by putting her hand on my shoulder and I remember yelling at her and pushing her

remember yelling at her and pushing her

remember yelling at her and pushing her away and she kind of responded like I’d

away and she kind of responded like I’d

away and she kind of responded like I’d burned her and then a couple of them I

burned her and then a couple of them I

burned her and then a couple of them I remember giggled and looking back on it

remember giggled and looking back on it

remember giggled and looking back on it I’m sure it was that giggle that

I’m sure it was that giggle that

I’m sure it was that giggle that sometimes happens when we don’t know

sometimes happens when we don’t know

sometimes happens when we don’t know what else to say or do but at the time

what else to say or do but at the time

what else to say or do but at the time that’s not what it felt like it felt

that’s not what it felt like it felt

that’s not what it felt like it felt like they were laughing at me at us in

like they were laughing at me at us in

like they were laughing at me at us in general I didn’t feel particularly well

general I didn’t feel particularly well

general I didn’t feel particularly well cared for in that moment but that was

cared for in that moment but that was

cared for in that moment but that was the point of this simulation

the point of this simulation

the point of this simulation because yes it was a simulation he

because yes it was a simulation he

because yes it was a simulation he gigantic lie if you will I was an actor

gigantic lie if you will I was an actor

gigantic lie if you will I was an actor Hannah was mannequin in a bassinet my

Hannah was mannequin in a bassinet my

Hannah was mannequin in a bassinet my mother was played by another actor who’s

mother was played by another actor who’s

mother was played by another actor who’s not actually related to me even the

not actually related to me even the

not actually related to me even the hospital chaplain that was in the room

hospital chaplain that was in the room

hospital chaplain that was in the room with us was played by yet another actor

with us was played by yet another actor

with us was played by yet another actor but before we talk about this simulation

but before we talk about this simulation

but before we talk about this simulation this lie let’s exercise our imaginations

this lie let’s exercise our imaginations

this lie let’s exercise our imaginations for a minute imagine that you’re a

for a minute imagine that you’re a

for a minute imagine that you’re a nursing student or medical student and

nursing student or medical student and

nursing student or medical student and this is your first encounter with loss

this is your first encounter with loss

this is your first encounter with loss and trauma and it’s the real world with

and trauma and it’s the real world with

and trauma and it’s the real world with real people and real feelings what if

real people and real feelings what if

real people and real feelings what if you didn’t know that that’s how you

you didn’t know that that’s how you

you didn’t know that that’s how you would respond to those situations if you

would respond to those situations if you

would respond to those situations if you didn’t know that you were one of those

didn’t know that you were one of those

didn’t know that you were one of those people that shuts down and doesn’t know

people that shuts down and doesn’t know

people that shuts down and doesn’t know what to say or do what about if you’re

what to say or do what about if you’re

what to say or do what about if you’re one of those people that gets upset when

one of those people that gets upset when

one of those people that gets upset when someone rejects an offer of help that

someone rejects an offer of help that

someone rejects an offer of help that you give them or what about if you’re

you give them or what about if you’re

you give them or what about if you’re one of those people that giggles

one of those people that giggles

one of those people that giggles nervously when you don’t know what else

nervously when you don’t know what else

nervously when you don’t know what else to do

to do

to do if those nurses had been experiencing

if those nurses had been experiencing

if those nurses had been experiencing this in the real world for the first

this in the real world for the first

this in the real world for the first time they would have learned the hard

time they would have learned the hard

time they would have learned the hard way that involuntary reactions and

way that involuntary reactions and

way that involuntary reactions and behaviors can still have very real

behaviors can still have very real

behaviors can still have very real impacts on their patients and their

impacts on their patients and their

impacts on their patients and their patients families but because they were

patients families but because they were

patients families but because they were in a simulated environment because they

in a simulated environment because they

in a simulated environment because they were essentially being lied to they were

were essentially being lied to they were

were essentially being lied to they were safe to learn and to grow so back to the

safe to learn and to grow so back to the

safe to learn and to grow so back to the simulation like I said there were three

simulation like I said there were three

simulation like I said there were three of us in that room that were actors and

of us in that room that were actors and

of us in that room that were actors and acting is and kind of at strictest sense

acting is and kind of at strictest sense

acting is and kind of at strictest sense a lie right after all I’m pretending to

a lie right after all I’m pretending to

a lie right after all I’m pretending to be someone that I’m not when I’m acting

be someone that I’m not when I’m acting

be someone that I’m not when I’m acting but it’s a lie that the audience agrees

but it’s a lie that the audience agrees

but it’s a lie that the audience agrees to and is part of right and that’s why

to and is part of right and that’s why

to and is part of right and that’s why artists and actors specifically in this

artists and actors specifically in this

artists and actors specifically in this instance can tell us important truths

instance can tell us important truths

instance can tell us important truths about ourselves and about the people

about ourselves and about the people

about ourselves and about the people around us that we may not otherwise

around us that we may not otherwise

around us that we may not otherwise realize so that’s why I’m proud of lying

realize so that’s why I’m proud of lying

realize so that’s why I’m proud of lying to your doctor because I’m proud of

to your doctor because I’m proud of

to your doctor because I’m proud of being an artist who works in the

being an artist who works in the

being an artist who works in the healthcare field in the healthcare field

healthcare field in the healthcare field

healthcare field in the healthcare field actors like myself are known as what are

actors like myself are known as what are

actors like myself are known as what are called standardized patients or SPS for

called standardized patients or SPS for

called standardized patients or SPS for short you know SPS were first used by a

short you know SPS were first used by a

short you know SPS were first used by a man named dr. Howard barrows in 1963 so

man named dr. Howard barrows in 1963 so

man named dr. Howard barrows in 1963 so relatively recently when he hired an

relatively recently when he hired an

relatively recently when he hired an actor to portray a patient for medical

actor to portray a patient for medical

actor to portray a patient for medical students who was paraplegic and had

students who was paraplegic and had

students who was paraplegic and had multiple sclerosis now if you know

multiple sclerosis now if you know

multiple sclerosis now if you know anything about paraplegia or MS then you

anything about paraplegia or MS then you

anything about paraplegia or MS then you know that both of these things involve

know that both of these things involve

know that both of these things involve physical manifestations or physical

physical manifestations or physical

physical manifestations or physical symptom ology of these conditions so you

symptom ology of these conditions so you

symptom ology of these conditions so you have to have a lot of control over your

have to have a lot of control over your

have to have a lot of control over your body to mimic those symptoms if you

body to mimic those symptoms if you

body to mimic those symptoms if you don’t actually have them additionally

don’t actually have them additionally

don’t actually have them additionally this actor was responsible for learning

this actor was responsible for learning

this actor was responsible for learning basically the life story of this patient

basically the life story of this patient

basically the life story of this patient so that if the students asked them

so that if the students asked them

so that if the students asked them questions about the care they’d received

questions about the care they’d received

questions about the care they’d received or what their experience was like they

or what their experience was like they

or what their experience was like they could answer those questions

could answer those questions

could answer those questions realistically but dr. Howard barrows

realistically but dr. Howard barrows

realistically but dr. Howard barrows used this actor in another way as well

used this actor in another way as well

used this actor in another way as well in addition to being someone that the

in addition to being someone that the

in addition to being someone that the students could evaluate he was

students could evaluate he was

students could evaluate he was evaluating the students he could give

evaluating the students he could give

evaluating the students he could give these students feedback about what it

these students feedback about what it

these students feedback about what it was like to be their patient about what

was like to be their patient about what

was like to be their patient about what it was like to receive care from them

it was like to receive care from them

it was like to receive care from them before they ever interacted with a

before they ever interacted with a

before they ever interacted with a patient like the person he was

patient like the person he was

patient like the person he was pretending to be in the real world

pretending to be in the real world

pretending to be in the real world since that time standardized patients

since that time standardized patients

since that time standardized patients have become much more widespread across

have become much more widespread across

have become much more widespread across the world they’re very common in medical

the world they’re very common in medical

the world they’re very common in medical school training now to varying degrees

school training now to varying degrees

school training now to varying degrees depending on which medical school you’re

depending on which medical school you’re

depending on which medical school you’re talking about and they’ve expanded

talking about and they’ve expanded

talking about and they’ve expanded nursing program to use standardized

nursing program to use standardized

nursing program to use standardized patients including the one here at Texas

patients including the one here at Texas

patients including the one here at Texas A&M University

A&M University

A&M University even veterinary medicine programs

even veterinary medicine programs

even veterinary medicine programs sometimes use standardized patients like

sometimes use standardized patients like

sometimes use standardized patients like the one here at Texas A&M after all

the one here at Texas A&M after all

the one here at Texas A&M after all that’s happened communicate with the

that’s happened communicate with the

that’s happened communicate with the human companions of their animal

human companions of their animal

human companions of their animal patients right so standardized patients

patients right so standardized patients

patients right so standardized patients have become so important to medical care

have become so important to medical care

have become so important to medical care that in the United States one of the

that in the United States one of the

that in the United States one of the tests that medical students have to take

tests that medical students have to take

tests that medical students have to take on their way to receiving their medical

on their way to receiving their medical

on their way to receiving their medical license

license

license involves what I call the SP gauntlet or

involves what I call the SP gauntlet or

involves what I call the SP gauntlet or twelve standardized patient encounters

twelve standardized patient encounters

twelve standardized patient encounters over the course of eight hours which

over the course of eight hours which

over the course of eight hours which means that they’re evaluating twelve

means that they’re evaluating twelve

means that they’re evaluating twelve patients but they’re also being

patients but they’re also being

patients but they’re also being evaluated by twelve patients on the

evaluated by twelve patients on the

evaluated by twelve patients on the level of care they receive their

level of care they receive their

level of care they receive their communication their rapport building

communication their rapport building

communication their rapport building skills etc so who are these standardized

skills etc so who are these standardized

skills etc so who are these standardized patients who are these people that are

patients who are these people that are

patients who are these people that are so important to medical training well

so important to medical training well

so important to medical training well the short answer is that they could be

the short answer is that they could be

the short answer is that they could be anyone right some of them are like me

anyone right some of them are like me

anyone right some of them are like me and have a lot of formal training and

and have a lot of formal training and

and have a lot of formal training and acting and theater and acting teaching

acting and theater and acting teaching

acting and theater and acting teaching some of them are former or current

some of them are former or current

some of them are former or current educators or former

educators or former

educators or former current healthcare professionals future

current healthcare professionals future

current healthcare professionals future educators future healthcare

educators future healthcare

educators future healthcare professionals and some of them are none

professionals and some of them are none

professionals and some of them are none of the above some of them are people

of the above some of them are people

of the above some of them are people that are passionate about the work that

that are passionate about the work that

that are passionate about the work that we do to help prepare the next

we do to help prepare the next

we do to help prepare the next generation of healthcare professionals

generation of healthcare professionals

generation of healthcare professionals but they don’t necessarily have a

but they don’t necessarily have a

but they don’t necessarily have a history of artistic training like I said

history of artistic training like I said

history of artistic training like I said I have a lot of formal training I

I have a lot of formal training I

I have a lot of formal training I graduated from a and I’m with the Duke

graduated from a and I’m with the Duke

graduated from a and I’m with the Duke in theatre arts and I actually got into

in theatre arts and I actually got into

in theatre arts and I actually got into work being as a standard being a

work being as a standard being a

work being as a standard being a standardized patient by googling the

standardized patient by googling the

standardized patient by googling the phrase day jobs that use acting skills

phrase day jobs that use acting skills

phrase day jobs that use acting skills because I knew as most artists do that I

because I knew as most artists do that I

because I knew as most artists do that I probably wasn’t gonna make a living as

probably wasn’t gonna make a living as

probably wasn’t gonna make a living as an actor at least not right away and so

an actor at least not right away and so

an actor at least not right away and so I needed a day job to pay the bills but

I needed a day job to pay the bills but

I needed a day job to pay the bills but I wanted to find a job that would

I wanted to find a job that would

I wanted to find a job that would complement and build on the skills that

complement and build on the skills that

complement and build on the skills that I was already developing as an artist

I was already developing as an artist

I was already developing as an artist and I stumbled across a blog from this

and I stumbled across a blog from this

and I stumbled across a blog from this Google search that I can’t find anymore

Google search that I can’t find anymore

Google search that I can’t find anymore otherwise I tell you which one it was

otherwise I tell you which one it was

otherwise I tell you which one it was written by a woman who lived in the San

written by a woman who lived in the San

written by a woman who lived in the San Francisco Bay Area talking about this

Francisco Bay Area talking about this

Francisco Bay Area talking about this really cool job she had where she

really cool job she had where she

really cool job she had where she basically pretended to be sick all day

basically pretended to be sick all day

basically pretended to be sick all day and medical students came in and

and medical students came in and

and medical students came in and evaluated her so I looked into it more

evaluated her so I looked into it more

evaluated her so I looked into it more and found out that we had a program here

and found out that we had a program here

and found out that we had a program here at A&M and got involved because of my

at A&M and got involved because of my

at A&M and got involved because of my background and because of my training I

background and because of my training I

background and because of my training I now all trained standardized patients as

now all trained standardized patients as

now all trained standardized patients as well as trained people who trained and

well as trained people who trained and

well as trained people who trained and standardized patients so I’ve moved

standardized patients so I’ve moved

standardized patients so I’ve moved beyond simply just performing as a

beyond simply just performing as a

beyond simply just performing as a standardized patient but anyone can be a

standardized patient but anyone can be a

standardized patient but anyone can be a standardized patient it takes work it

standardized patient it takes work it

standardized patient it takes work it takes dedication and the skill set that

takes dedication and the skill set that

takes dedication and the skill set that it requires is more artistic than

it requires is more artistic than

it requires is more artistic than technical in nature but just because

technical in nature but just because

technical in nature but just because it’s artistic doesn’t necessarily mean

it’s artistic doesn’t necessarily mean

it’s artistic doesn’t necessarily mean it’s easy so to demonstrate this you’re

it’s easy so to demonstrate this you’re

it’s easy so to demonstrate this you’re all going to become standardized

all going to become standardized

all going to become standardized patients for just a moment okay so I

patients for just a moment okay so I

patients for just a moment okay so I want you to imagine that you are going

want you to imagine that you are going

want you to imagine that you are going to portray a patient who has a really

to portray a patient who has a really

to portray a patient who has a really really bad headache and when I say

really bad headache and when I say

really bad headache and when I say really really bad headache I mean a

really really bad headache I mean a

really really bad headache I mean a headache that if you were to rate it on

headache that if you were to rate it on

headache that if you were to rate it on a scale from zero to ten with zero being

a scale from zero to ten with zero being

a scale from zero to ten with zero being no pain and ten being the worst pain of

no pain and ten being the worst pain of

no pain and ten being the worst pain of your life it is a 10 out of 10 headache

your life it is a 10 out of 10 headache

your life it is a 10 out of 10 headache okay

okay

okay maybe you’ve had a headache like this

maybe you’ve had a headache like this

maybe you’ve had a headache like this before maybe you’ve had a migraine maybe

before maybe you’ve had a migraine maybe

before maybe you’ve had a migraine maybe you have experienced a really bad

you have experienced a really bad

you have experienced a really bad tension headache or maybe you’ve woken

tension headache or maybe you’ve woken

tension headache or maybe you’ve woken up one morning after having a little too

up one morning after having a little too

up one morning after having a little too much fun the night before right so I

much fun the night before right so I

much fun the night before right so I want you to imagine

want you to imagine

want you to imagine okay close your eyes if you need to you

okay close your eyes if you need to you

okay close your eyes if you need to you don’t have to but I want you to imagine

don’t have to but I want you to imagine

don’t have to but I want you to imagine that kind of tension that pounding that

that kind of tension that pounding that

that kind of tension that pounding that you feel in the center of your head when

you feel in the center of your head when

you feel in the center of your head when you have a really bad headache maybe as

you have a really bad headache maybe as

you have a really bad headache maybe as you start to imagine this you’ll notice

you start to imagine this you’ll notice

you start to imagine this you’ll notice your face kind of starting to tense up a

your face kind of starting to tense up a

your face kind of starting to tense up a little bit right because it just that’s

little bit right because it just that’s

little bit right because it just that’s what happens when you feel pain as your

what happens when you feel pain as your

what happens when you feel pain as your body kind of tenses up so as you imagine

body kind of tenses up so as you imagine

body kind of tenses up so as you imagine that pain that tension moving down into

that pain that tension moving down into

that pain that tension moving down into the back of your neck right maybe you

the back of your neck right maybe you

the back of your neck right maybe you start to imagine those muscles tensing

start to imagine those muscles tensing

start to imagine those muscles tensing maybe you even start to actually feel

maybe you even start to actually feel

maybe you even start to actually feel them tensing okay and then I want you to

them tensing okay and then I want you to

them tensing okay and then I want you to think about the fact that light is going

think about the fact that light is going

think about the fact that light is going to hurt your eyes right it’s going to

to hurt your eyes right it’s going to

to hurt your eyes right it’s going to make the headache worse you don’t want

make the headache worse you don’t want

make the headache worse you don’t want to move too quickly or too much in any

to move too quickly or too much in any

to move too quickly or too much in any part of your body because that jostles

part of your body because that jostles

part of your body because that jostles your head and hurts you right so you’re

your head and hurts you right so you’re

your head and hurts you right so you’re going to keep everything tense right and

going to keep everything tense right and

going to keep everything tense right and maybe you notice your breathing start to

maybe you notice your breathing start to

maybe you notice your breathing start to change because when we’re in pain we try

change because when we’re in pain we try

change because when we’re in pain we try to hold everything still and keep

to hold everything still and keep

to hold everything still and keep everything from hurting right and maybe

everything from hurting right and maybe

everything from hurting right and maybe as I’m talking and as these loud sounds

as I’m talking and as these loud sounds

as I’m talking and as these loud sounds are coming in that’s hurting your head

are coming in that’s hurting your head

are coming in that’s hurting your head even more so you got to talk a little

even more so you got to talk a little

even more so you got to talk a little bit more quietly right oh okay now I

bit more quietly right oh okay now I

bit more quietly right oh okay now I want you to imagine holding that level

want you to imagine holding that level

want you to imagine holding that level of pain for 20 minutes at a time up to

of pain for 20 minutes at a time up to

of pain for 20 minutes at a time up to 10 times per day because that’s how many

10 times per day because that’s how many

10 times per day because that’s how many students we can see in a given day it’s

students we can see in a given day it’s

students we can see in a given day it’s not easy right it takes skill it takes

not easy right it takes skill it takes

not easy right it takes skill it takes practice it takes training to be able to

practice it takes training to be able to

practice it takes training to be able to use our bodies in this way right but not

use our bodies in this way right but not

use our bodies in this way right but not only that you have to maintain that

only that you have to maintain that

only that you have to maintain that level of pain for that long and you have

level of pain for that long and you have

level of pain for that long and you have to be able to listen to this entire talk

to be able to listen to this entire talk

to be able to listen to this entire talk and give me feedback on it afterwards so

and give me feedback on it afterwards so

and give me feedback on it afterwards so you have to be paying attention to it

you have to be paying attention to it

you have to be paying attention to it well enough that you can give me

well enough that you can give me

well enough that you can give me feedback about how I can improve after

feedback about how I can improve after

feedback about how I can improve after I’m done talking so like I said not an

I’m done talking so like I said not an

I’m done talking so like I said not an easy skill but that realism is really

easy skill but that realism is really

easy skill but that realism is really really important and that’s where the

really important and that’s where the

really important and that’s where the term is standardized in standardized

term is standardized in standardized

term is standardized in standardized patient comes into play here at Texas

patient comes into play here at Texas

patient comes into play here at Texas A&M University we have five campuses of

A&M University we have five campuses of

A&M University we have five campuses of our Health Science Center we have

our Health Science Center we have

our Health Science Center we have medical students on all five of those

medical students on all five of those

medical students on all five of those campuses and nursing students on two on

campuses and nursing students on two on

campuses and nursing students on two on all of the campuses the students should

all of the campuses the students should

all of the campuses the students should be receiving and are receiving the same

be receiving and are receiving the same

be receiving and are receiving the same education right they should be going

education right they should be going

education right they should be going through the same curriculum learning the

through the same curriculum learning the

through the same curriculum learning the same material taking the same tests we

same material taking the same tests we

same material taking the same tests we don’t want one campus to

don’t want one campus to

don’t want one campus to have more educational opportunity it’s

have more educational opportunity it’s

have more educational opportunity it’s been another campus so we have to

been another campus so we have to

been another campus so we have to standardize it which means that let’s

standardize it which means that let’s

standardize it which means that let’s say we’ll use this headache example we

say we’ll use this headache example we

say we’ll use this headache example we have campus a where we have standardized

have campus a where we have standardized

have campus a where we have standardized patient a and student a and campus B

patient a and student a and campus B

patient a and student a and campus B where we have standardized patient B and

where we have standardized patient B and

where we have standardized patient B and student B and on campus a student a

student B and on campus a student a

student B and on campus a student a walks into C standardized patient egg

walks into C standardized patient egg

walks into C standardized patient egg like this and as soon as they walk in

like this and as soon as they walk in

like this and as soon as they walk in without even talking is the student can

without even talking is the student can

without even talking is the student can see that this patient is in a lot of

see that this patient is in a lot of

see that this patient is in a lot of pain right think about how you would

pain right think about how you would

pain right think about how you would want this position this young medical

want this position this young medical

want this position this young medical student to interact with a patient like

student to interact with a patient like

student to interact with a patient like that especially if you were that patient

that especially if you were that patient

that especially if you were that patient you want a sense of urgency you’d want

you want a sense of urgency you’d want

you want a sense of urgency you’d want them to engage with you you want them to

them to engage with you you want them to

them to engage with you you want them to keep their voice down you want them to

keep their voice down you want them to

keep their voice down you want them to acknowledge your pain as quickly as

acknowledge your pain as quickly as

acknowledge your pain as quickly as possible right all of these skills that

possible right all of these skills that

possible right all of these skills that we may be evaluating as a standardized

we may be evaluating as a standardized

we may be evaluating as a standardized patient that we may be wanting to

patient that we may be wanting to

patient that we may be wanting to examine whether these students have

examine whether these students have

examine whether these students have developed these skills now imagine that

developed these skills now imagine that

developed these skills now imagine that on another campus we have a student

on another campus we have a student

on another campus we have a student that’s seeing the exact same case with

that’s seeing the exact same case with

that’s seeing the exact same case with all of the same information a 10 out of

all of the same information a 10 out of

all of the same information a 10 out of 10 headache right all of the same things

10 headache right all of the same things

10 headache right all of the same things except that when they walk in the room

except that when they walk in the room

except that when they walk in the room they walk in and they see a patient that

they walk in and they see a patient that

they walk in and they see a patient that looks like this

right extremely different experience

right extremely different experience especially because if you saw a patient

especially because if you saw a patient

especially because if you saw a patient like that who said that they were in ten

like that who said that they were in ten

like that who said that they were in ten out of ten pain you might think that

out of ten pain you might think that

out of ten pain you might think that they were lying in order to get pain

they were lying in order to get pain

they were lying in order to get pain medications right and so the skills that

medications right and so the skills that

medications right and so the skills that this student is going to be tested on

this student is going to be tested on

this student is going to be tested on are going to vary very drastically from

are going to vary very drastically from

are going to vary very drastically from the skills that this student is going to

the skills that this student is going to

the skills that this student is going to be tested on so we have to make sure

be tested on so we have to make sure

be tested on so we have to make sure that we’re standardized but not only

that we’re standardized but not only

that we’re standardized but not only that not only do we have to be

that not only do we have to be

that not only do we have to be standardized across all of our campuses

standardized across all of our campuses

standardized across all of our campuses which means that everyone has to be able

which means that everyone has to be able

which means that everyone has to be able to all of these performers these actors

to all of these performers these actors

to all of these performers these actors these artists who work as standardized

these artists who work as standardized

these artists who work as standardized patients they have to be able to be at

patients they have to be able to be at

patients they have to be able to be at the same level as each other

the same level as each other

the same level as each other we also have to be at the same level

we also have to be at the same level

we also have to be at the same level with ourselves which means that of those

with ourselves which means that of those

with ourselves which means that of those ten encounters that we may see

ten encounters that we may see

ten encounters that we may see throughout the day we don’t want our

throughout the day we don’t want our

throughout the day we don’t want our first one to look like this and our last

first one to look like this and our last

first one to look like this and our last one to look like this right because we

one to look like this right because we

one to look like this right because we want every student to get the same

want every student to get the same

want every student to get the same experience which means that we have to

experience which means that we have to

experience which means that we have to maintain that level of realism for the

maintain that level of realism for the

maintain that level of realism for the entire day now it’s not to say that

entire day now it’s not to say that

entire day now it’s not to say that students can’t learn from less realistic

students can’t learn from less realistic

students can’t learn from less realistic simulations we use mannequins in the

simulations we use mannequins in the

simulations we use mannequins in the simulation center we use

simulation center we use

simulation center we use computer programs and video that virtual

computer programs and video that virtual

computer programs and video that virtual reality virtual reality is becoming a

reality virtual reality is becoming a

reality virtual reality is becoming a bigger thing in the simulation world but

bigger thing in the simulation world but

bigger thing in the simulation world but I like to think of those simulations as

I like to think of those simulations as

I like to think of those simulations as living textbook simulations right there

living textbook simulations right there

living textbook simulations right there taking a textbook and kind of bringing

taking a textbook and kind of bringing

taking a textbook and kind of bringing it to life but a human being is not a

it to life but a human being is not a

it to life but a human being is not a textbook we’re not even close to a

textbook we’re not even close to a

textbook we’re not even close to a textbook right and so even though we

textbook right and so even though we

textbook right and so even though we have to be standardized there’s

have to be standardized there’s

have to be standardized there’s something incredibly important about the

something incredibly important about the

something incredibly important about the realism that artists can bring to this

realism that artists can bring to this

realism that artists can bring to this process as an example of this one of the

process as an example of this one of the

process as an example of this one of the people that I work with now at the

people that I work with now at the

people that I work with now at the clinical Learning Resource Center at the

clinical Learning Resource Center at the

clinical Learning Resource Center at the Health Science Center used to be a

Health Science Center used to be a

Health Science Center used to be a nursing student and she went through a

nursing student and she went through a

nursing student and she went through a simulation identical to the one that I

simulation identical to the one that I

simulation identical to the one that I told you about at the beginning of this

told you about at the beginning of this

told you about at the beginning of this talk with me and my daughter Hannah and

talk with me and my daughter Hannah and

talk with me and my daughter Hannah and she talks about the fact that not long

she talks about the fact that not long

she talks about the fact that not long after she went through that simulation

after she went through that simulation

after she went through that simulation she actually experienced something

she actually experienced something

she actually experienced something almost identical to that in the real

almost identical to that in the real

almost identical to that in the real world and she says that had she not

world and she says that had she not

world and she says that had she not experienced something that felt so real

experienced something that felt so real

experienced something that felt so real in a safe space she never would have

in a safe space she never would have

in a safe space she never would have been prepared for that situation when it

been prepared for that situation when it

been prepared for that situation when it happened in front of her but because

happened in front of her but because

happened in front of her but because she’d been through it once in a very

she’d been through it once in a very

she’d been through it once in a very real way with a real emotions and a real

real way with a real emotions and a real

real way with a real emotions and a real experience a very well told lie if you

experience a very well told lie if you

experience a very well told lie if you will she was able to maintain her cool

will she was able to maintain her cool

will she was able to maintain her cool under pressure

under pressure

under pressure respond to the family in a way that was

respond to the family in a way that was

respond to the family in a way that was meaningful and engaged with them and

meaningful and engaged with them and

meaningful and engaged with them and cared for them in a way that they could

cared for them in a way that they could

cared for them in a way that they could appreciate and receive in that moment so

appreciate and receive in that moment so

appreciate and receive in that moment so this is the importance of art in

this is the importance of art in

this is the importance of art in medicine a field that we don’t

medicine a field that we don’t

medicine a field that we don’t necessarily think of as being in any way

necessarily think of as being in any way

necessarily think of as being in any way artistic right we think of it as being

artistic right we think of it as being

artistic right we think of it as being clinical as being scientific you might

clinical as being scientific you might

clinical as being scientific you might think you might have heard the acronym

think you might have heard the acronym

think you might have heard the acronym stem right science technology

stem right science technology

stem right science technology engineering and math but I think it’s

engineering and math but I think it’s

engineering and math but I think it’s incredibly important that we don’t

incredibly important that we don’t

incredibly important that we don’t forget to add the a right because steam

forget to add the a right because steam

forget to add the a right because steam right steam powers our medical field

right steam powers our medical field

right steam powers our medical field it’s what broadens the horizon of

it’s what broadens the horizon of

it’s what broadens the horizon of medical care it’s what what improves the

medical care it’s what what improves the

medical care it’s what what improves the future of the care that we will receive

future of the care that we will receive

future of the care that we will receive as patients because none of us want to

as patients because none of us want to

as patients because none of us want to be cogs in a machine right so how do you

be cogs in a machine right so how do you

be cogs in a machine right so how do you as a nurse who has a lot of patients to

as a nurse who has a lot of patients to

as a nurse who has a lot of patients to see in a given day on a hospital floor

see in a given day on a hospital floor

see in a given day on a hospital floor make every single one of them feel like

make every single one of them feel like

make every single one of them feel like they matter and that they’re not just a

they matter and that they’re not just a

they matter and that they’re not just a number on your clip

number on your clip

number on your clip bored standardized patients artists can

bored standardized patients artists can

bored standardized patients artists can help you teach help you learn that but

help you teach help you learn that but

help you teach help you learn that but if you’re a medical student are a doctor

if you’re a medical student are a doctor

if you’re a medical student are a doctor and you have to explain a really

and you have to explain a really

and you have to explain a really complicated diagnosis and a complicated

complicated diagnosis and a complicated

complicated diagnosis and a complicated plan of care to a patient and you want

plan of care to a patient and you want

plan of care to a patient and you want to make sure they actually understand

to make sure they actually understand

to make sure they actually understand you and that they’re not just saying

you and that they’re not just saying

you and that they’re not just saying they understand because they’re

they understand because they’re

they understand because they’re intimidated by you as a physician right

intimidated by you as a physician right

intimidated by you as a physician right standardized patients artists can help

standardized patients artists can help

standardized patients artists can help you learn that what if you’re trying to

you learn that what if you’re trying to

you learn that what if you’re trying to deal with an angry patient and you need

deal with an angry patient and you need

deal with an angry patient and you need to learn how to get at the core of that

to learn how to get at the core of that

to learn how to get at the core of that anger right rather than just treating

anger right rather than just treating

anger right rather than just treating the symptoms of the anger but really

the symptoms of the anger but really

the symptoms of the anger but really truly help that person feel understood

truly help that person feel understood

truly help that person feel understood about the thing that is causing them

about the thing that is causing them

about the thing that is causing them pain and frustration and anger

pain and frustration and anger

pain and frustration and anger standardized patients and artists can

standardized patients and artists can

standardized patients and artists can help you learn how to do that right so

help you learn how to do that right so

help you learn how to do that right so this is the point of using artists in

this is the point of using artists in

this is the point of using artists in healthcare we bring a truth to these

healthcare we bring a truth to these

healthcare we bring a truth to these students and your future doctors by

students and your future doctors by

students and your future doctors by telling lies by pretending to be someone

telling lies by pretending to be someone

telling lies by pretending to be someone that we’re not and by doing it

that we’re not and by doing it

that we’re not and by doing it extraordinarily well so that’s why I’m

extraordinarily well so that’s why I’m

extraordinarily well so that’s why I’m proud of lying to your doctor that’s why

proud of lying to your doctor that’s why

proud of lying to your doctor that’s why I’m proud of teaching other people to

I’m proud of teaching other people to

I’m proud of teaching other people to lie to your doctors extraordinarily well

lie to your doctors extraordinarily well

lie to your doctors extraordinarily well we lie because you shouldn’t have to

we lie because you shouldn’t have to

we lie because you shouldn’t have to thank

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