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Making Public Services Better | Caroline Makepeace | TEDxStPeterPort


hello good morning it’s great to be here

hello good morning it’s great to be here I want to talk to you today about

I want to talk to you today about

I want to talk to you today about improving public services my background

improving public services my background

improving public services my background is primarily in the UK government I

is primarily in the UK government I

is primarily in the UK government I spent many years working for the

spent many years working for the

spent many years working for the Department for business and the

Department for business and the

Department for business and the Department for trade but last October

Department for trade but last October

Department for trade but last October October 2016 I left the public sector

October 2016 I left the public sector

October 2016 I left the public sector and I joined a new company with based in

and I joined a new company with based in

and I joined a new company with based in London we called public because I wanted

London we called public because I wanted

London we called public because I wanted to see public sector services improved

to see public sector services improved

to see public sector services improved at a rate that I wasn’t seeing in

at a rate that I wasn’t seeing in

at a rate that I wasn’t seeing in government and we at public have a real

government and we at public have a real

government and we at public have a real belief that if government can really

belief that if government can really

belief that if government can really take advantage of today’s technology of

take advantage of today’s technology of

take advantage of today’s technology of today’s techniques of analyzing data

today’s techniques of analyzing data

today’s techniques of analyzing data public services really could be a lot

public services really could be a lot

public services really could be a lot better and be a lot better quickly and

better and be a lot better quickly and

better and be a lot better quickly and more cheaply and this is better for all

more cheaply and this is better for all

more cheaply and this is better for all of us and the technology is already out

of us and the technology is already out

of us and the technology is already out there and if I think about the phone

there and if I think about the phone

there and if I think about the phone that I have in my handbag today it will

that I have in my handbag today it will

that I have in my handbag today it will manage my schedule for me it will wake

manage my schedule for me it will wake

manage my schedule for me it will wake me up in the morning I can buy a coffee

me up in the morning I can buy a coffee

me up in the morning I can buy a coffee on the way to work with my phone it will

on the way to work with my phone it will

on the way to work with my phone it will tell me within a margin of 15 minutes

tell me within a margin of 15 minutes

tell me within a margin of 15 minutes error if it’s going to rain today but I

error if it’s going to rain today but I

error if it’s going to rain today but I never expect the same level of

never expect the same level of

never expect the same level of convenience from public services from

convenience from public services from

convenience from public services from those services provided by the

those services provided by the

those services provided by the government and why is that I think

government and why is that I think

government and why is that I think partly when a lot of us think about

partly when a lot of us think about

partly when a lot of us think about government they think about this or they

government they think about this or they

government they think about this or they might think about this and in my

might think about this and in my

might think about this and in my experience there’s a bit of both but

experience there’s a bit of both but

experience there’s a bit of both but there’s also this this is a picture of a

there’s also this this is a picture of a

there’s also this this is a picture of a digital team from a UK government

digital team from a UK government

digital team from a UK government central government department their job

central government department their job

central government department their job is all about designing delivering

is all about designing delivering

is all about designing delivering digital public services that meet the

digital public services that meet the

digital public services that meet the needs of the citizens now what does it

needs of the citizens now what does it

needs of the citizens now what does it mean if they do their job right it means

mean if they do their job right it means

mean if they do their job right it means that if you go to a hospital or a doctor

that if you go to a hospital or a doctor

that if you go to a hospital or a doctor surgery in any part of the country

surgery in any part of the country

surgery in any part of the country they’ll have your records they’ll be

they’ll have your records they’ll be

they’ll have your records they’ll be able to help you there

able to help you there

able to help you there and then and give you the help that they

and then and give you the help that they

and then and give you the help that they need it means that if you’re if you live

need it means that if you’re if you live

need it means that if you’re if you live in a low-lying area on a floodplain you

in a low-lying area on a floodplain you

in a low-lying area on a floodplain you can get early alerts about whether or

can get early alerts about whether or

can get early alerts about whether or not there’s a risk of flooding coming up

not there’s a risk of flooding coming up

not there’s a risk of flooding coming up it means that if you’re a security if

it means that if you’re a security if

it means that if you’re a security if you’re in security you can use

you’re in security you can use

you’re in security you can use technology to analyze CCTV footage to

technology to analyze CCTV footage to

technology to analyze CCTV footage to spot anomalies it means if you are a

spot anomalies it means if you are a

spot anomalies it means if you are a vulnerable adult accessing lots of

vulnerable adult accessing lots of

vulnerable adult accessing lots of different parts of the social care

different parts of the social care

different parts of the social care system services will be triangulated for

system services will be triangulated for

system services will be triangulated for you so that you’re getting the support

you so that you’re getting the support

you so that you’re getting the support that you need without needing to make

that you need without needing to make

that you need without needing to make more effort than is realistic or

more effort than is realistic or

more effort than is realistic or necessary so I suppose the theme of my

necessary so I suppose the theme of my

necessary so I suppose the theme of my talk today is what does the public

talk today is what does the public

talk today is what does the public sector need to be thinking about in

sector need to be thinking about in

sector need to be thinking about in order to make these guys succeed firstly

order to make these guys succeed firstly

order to make these guys succeed firstly I want to talk about openness and I mean

I want to talk about openness and I mean

I want to talk about openness and I mean this in terms of government being open

this in terms of government being open

this in terms of government being open to working differently technology and

to working differently technology and

to working differently technology and the face of technology has changed a lot

the face of technology has changed a lot

the face of technology has changed a lot in the last ten years even ten years ago

in the last ten years even ten years ago

in the last ten years even ten years ago if we wanted to access the Internet we’d

if we wanted to access the Internet we’d

if we wanted to access the Internet we’d plug our computer into a cable if we

plug our computer into a cable if we

plug our computer into a cable if we wanted to upgrade our computer we go out

wanted to upgrade our computer we go out

wanted to upgrade our computer we go out we buy a disk and we’d stick the disk in

we buy a disk and we’d stick the disk in

we buy a disk and we’d stick the disk in the computer and that’s how we would

the computer and that’s how we would

the computer and that’s how we would progress that’s how we would upgrade our

progress that’s how we would upgrade our

progress that’s how we would upgrade our software today it’s different we use

software today it’s different we use

software today it’s different we use Wi-Fi to access the Internet if we want

Wi-Fi to access the Internet if we want

Wi-Fi to access the Internet if we want to upgrade software we download it from

to upgrade software we download it from

to upgrade software we download it from the cloud and this is this is a real

the cloud and this is this is a real

the cloud and this is this is a real shift in how we engage with technology

shift in how we engage with technology

shift in how we engage with technology and as humans we like things that are

and as humans we like things that are

and as humans we like things that are tangible we like things that we can

tangible we like things that we can

tangible we like things that we can touch and feel and smell and we think we

touch and feel and smell and we think we

touch and feel and smell and we think we trust those things more because there’s

trust those things more because there’s

trust those things more because there’s something inherently scary about the

something inherently scary about the

something inherently scary about the intangible who knows what’s in the cloud

intangible who knows what’s in the cloud

intangible who knows what’s in the cloud what even is it ghosts a slightly cloudy

what even is it ghosts a slightly cloudy

what even is it ghosts a slightly cloudy we shouldn’t trust them but we need to

we shouldn’t trust them but we need to

we shouldn’t trust them but we need to get comfortable with the idea but this

get comfortable with the idea but this

get comfortable with the idea but this is where technology is going it might

is where technology is going it might

is where technology is going it might seem like a really simple point for

seem like a really simple point for

seem like a really simple point for those of us who’ve used Wi-Fi at home

those of us who’ve used Wi-Fi at home

those of us who’ve used Wi-Fi at home we’re used to this whole idea of not

we’re used to this whole idea of not

we’re used to this whole idea of not necessarily having cables not

necessarily having cables not

necessarily having cables not necessarily having physical things but

necessarily having physical things but

necessarily having physical things but let me tell you that the UK Department

let me tell you that the UK Department

let me tell you that the UK Department for Education only got Wi-Fi this year

for Education only got Wi-Fi this year

for Education only got Wi-Fi this year 2017 it’s a live issue and public sector

2017 it’s a live issue and public sector

2017 it’s a live issue and public sector needs to needs to get comfortable with

needs to needs to get comfortable with

needs to needs to get comfortable with the changes that are happening in the

the changes that are happening in the

the changes that are happening in the technology environment and when I say

technology environment and when I say

technology environment and when I say being open to new ways of working I also

being open to new ways of working I also

being open to new ways of working I also mean that we need to reopen the idea of

mean that we need to reopen the idea of

mean that we need to reopen the idea of what user needs really are we need to

what user needs really are we need to

what user needs really are we need to make sure that public services are being

make sure that public services are being

make sure that public services are being designed around what the end user needs

designed around what the end user needs

designed around what the end user needs now governments operate under all sorts

now governments operate under all sorts

now governments operate under all sorts of constraints from the media from

of constraints from the media from

of constraints from the media from politics and economic changes and in

politics and economic changes and in

politics and economic changes and in that sort of pressurized environment

that sort of pressurized environment

that sort of pressurized environment it’s very easy to take the least risky

it’s very easy to take the least risky

it’s very easy to take the least risky option government is famous for being

option government is famous for being

option government is famous for being risk averse we’re very good at saying

risk averse we’re very good at saying

risk averse we’re very good at saying well we did this yesterday we’ll do it

well we did this yesterday we’ll do it

well we did this yesterday we’ll do it today it’s got to be the right answer

today it’s got to be the right answer

today it’s got to be the right answer we’ve done it before

we’ve done it before

we’ve done it before social services have always looked like

social services have always looked like

social services have always looked like this Healthcare has always looked like

this Healthcare has always looked like

this Healthcare has always looked like this it must be right

this it must be right

this it must be right fundamentally though that’s incorrect

fundamentally though that’s incorrect

fundamentally though that’s incorrect it’s not always right we don’t always

it’s not always right we don’t always

it’s not always right we don’t always know what our end users need we haven’t

know what our end users need we haven’t

know what our end users need we haven’t always asked them we’ve assumed we’ve

always asked them we’ve assumed we’ve

always asked them we’ve assumed we’ve assumed from my ivory tower in the

assumed from my ivory tower in the

assumed from my ivory tower in the public sector that that person over

public sector that that person over

public sector that that person over there with those needs this is what they

there with those needs this is what they

there with those needs this is what they want this is what they need of too often

want this is what they need of too often

want this is what they need of too often government consultations don’t really

government consultations don’t really

government consultations don’t really consult they don’t really find out about

consult they don’t really find out about

consult they don’t really find out about what users need and it doesn’t matter if

what users need and it doesn’t matter if

what users need and it doesn’t matter if your end user is a working adult whether

your end user is a working adult whether

your end user is a working adult whether they are a vulnerable child whether

they are a vulnerable child whether

they are a vulnerable child whether they’re actually someone working in

they’re actually someone working in

they’re actually someone working in public services they might be a

public services they might be a

public services they might be a clinician in a hospital environment they

clinician in a hospital environment they

clinician in a hospital environment they might be a civil servant in the

might be a civil servant in the

might be a civil servant in the Department for business in any event

Department for business in any event

Department for business in any event their needs should be factored into the

their needs should be factored into the

their needs should be factored into the services that they are accessing because

services that they are accessing because

services that they are accessing because that is the only way in which we’re

that is the only way in which we’re

that is the only way in which we’re going to create services that really

going to create services that really

going to create services that really deliver that really make a difference to

deliver that really make a difference to

deliver that really make a difference to people’s lives and it’s very easy to do

people’s lives and it’s very easy to do

people’s lives and it’s very easy to do these things by paper government usually

these things by paper government usually

these things by paper government usually does we need to rethink what being open

does we need to rethink what being open

does we need to rethink what being open and engaging with citizens really means

and engaging with citizens really means

and engaging with citizens really means sometimes that means getting out and

sometimes that means getting out and

sometimes that means getting out and talking hosting roundtables having open

talking hosting roundtables having open

talking hosting roundtables having open discussions about what citizens really

discussions about what citizens really

discussions about what citizens really need because it’s only by being open to

need because it’s only by being open to

need because it’s only by being open to those ways of working that we’re really

those ways of working that we’re really

those ways of working that we’re really going to design server

going to design server

going to design server is that make a difference and improve

is that make a difference and improve

is that make a difference and improve people’s lives now for my second point

people’s lives now for my second point

people’s lives now for my second point let’s assume we know what our users need

let’s assume we know what our users need

let’s assume we know what our users need crucially let’s not jump to a conclusion

crucially let’s not jump to a conclusion

crucially let’s not jump to a conclusion about how we solve the particular

about how we solve the particular

about how we solve the particular problem that they’re facing government

problem that they’re facing government

problem that they’re facing government is terribly good at writing very

is terribly good at writing very

is terribly good at writing very intelligently thought through very

intelligently thought through very

intelligently thought through very detailed specifications about exactly

detailed specifications about exactly

detailed specifications about exactly what they want and they’re going out and

what they want and they’re going out and

what they want and they’re going out and trying to buy it or trying to build it

trying to buy it or trying to build it

trying to buy it or trying to build it however don’t try to don’t Commission a

however don’t try to don’t Commission a

however don’t try to don’t Commission a 200 part contraption to change a light

200 part contraption to change a light

200 part contraption to change a light bulb if perhaps an alternative route

bulb if perhaps an alternative route

bulb if perhaps an alternative route might have been you could just use your

might have been you could just use your

might have been you could just use your hand to take it down yourself so the

hand to take it down yourself so the

hand to take it down yourself so the lesson here is don’t assume that you’ve

lesson here is don’t assume that you’ve

lesson here is don’t assume that you’ve got all the answers already be open to

got all the answers already be open to

got all the answers already be open to the idea that other answers are out

the idea that other answers are out

the idea that other answers are out there so don’t over specify start from

there so don’t over specify start from

there so don’t over specify start from the basis of user needs ask open

the basis of user needs ask open

the basis of user needs ask open questions and then collaborate to find

questions and then collaborate to find

questions and then collaborate to find the right answer and this again this

the right answer and this again this

the right answer and this again this leads into a new way of working that

leads into a new way of working that

leads into a new way of working that feels risky I think from a government

feels risky I think from a government

feels risky I think from a government perspective government is used to trying

perspective government is used to trying

perspective government is used to trying to solve big problems and trying to

to solve big problems and trying to

to solve big problems and trying to solve them all at once having a solution

solve them all at once having a solution

solve them all at once having a solution that takes you from A to Z fixes the

that takes you from A to Z fixes the

that takes you from A to Z fixes the problem in so much of life in so many

problem in so much of life in so many

problem in so much of life in so many public services that it’s based on a

public services that it’s based on a

public services that it’s based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what the

fundamental misunderstanding of what the

fundamental misunderstanding of what the problem really is so often we don’t

problem really is so often we don’t

problem really is so often we don’t really know what the end point is or

really know what the end point is or

really know what the end point is or we’re not yet sure what’s really going

we’re not yet sure what’s really going

we’re not yet sure what’s really going to work in my view governments really

to work in my view governments really

to work in my view governments really need to have a courage to be able to

need to have a courage to be able to

need to have a courage to be able to start small test iterate build build

start small test iterate build build

start small test iterate build build from small beginnings and that’s the way

from small beginnings and that’s the way

from small beginnings and that’s the way in which you design services that really

in which you design services that really

in which you design services that really meet the needs of users that’s the way

meet the needs of users that’s the way

meet the needs of users that’s the way in which you really get the best out of

in which you really get the best out of

in which you really get the best out of technology and that’s what I think smart

technology and that’s what I think smart

technology and that’s what I think smart governments will be doing in the future

governments will be doing in the future

governments will be doing in the future starting small iterating and remembering

starting small iterating and remembering

starting small iterating and remembering to ask the right questions and so my

to ask the right questions and so my

to ask the right questions and so my third point how do we get all of this

third point how do we get all of this

third point how do we get all of this started where does this all come from

started where does this all come from

started where does this all come from and I want to talk about the importance

and I want to talk about the importance

and I want to talk about the importance of nurturing

of nurturing

of nurturing ecosystems now smart governments will

ecosystems now smart governments will

ecosystems now smart governments will know they all recognize that companies

know they all recognize that companies

know they all recognize that companies they do business with will have a stamp

they do business with will have a stamp

they do business with will have a stamp of approval when that business tries to

of approval when that business tries to

of approval when that business tries to scale because they’ve already worked

scale because they’ve already worked

scale because they’ve already worked with the public sector so that means

with the public sector so that means

with the public sector so that means that if you are a business in the UK if

that if you are a business in the UK if

that if you are a business in the UK if you’re a tech business in Guernsey and

you’re a tech business in Guernsey and

you’re a tech business in Guernsey and you are trying to scale internationally

you are trying to scale internationally

you are trying to scale internationally perhaps you’re trying to do business in

perhaps you’re trying to do business in

perhaps you’re trying to do business in Singapore and in Israel in Germany when

Singapore and in Israel in Germany when

Singapore and in Israel in Germany when they are talking to buyers in those

they are talking to buyers in those

they are talking to buyers in those markets it is an instant positive that

markets it is an instant positive that

markets it is an instant positive that they’ve done business in their home

they’ve done business in their home

they’ve done business in their home country indeed it’s a bit of a question

country indeed it’s a bit of a question

country indeed it’s a bit of a question mark about why haven’t you done business

mark about why haven’t you done business

mark about why haven’t you done business in your home country why isn’t your

in your home country why isn’t your

in your home country why isn’t your government buying from you why are you

government buying from you why are you

government buying from you why are you not working with your government and

not working with your government and

not working with your government and that’s a question I think it’s really

that’s a question I think it’s really

that’s a question I think it’s really worth public servants holding in mind do

worth public servants holding in mind do

worth public servants holding in mind do not underestimate the value or the role

not underestimate the value or the role

not underestimate the value or the role public service plays in building healthy

public service plays in building healthy

public service plays in building healthy private-sector ecosystems because it

private-sector ecosystems because it

private-sector ecosystems because it really does count and success breeds

really does count and success breeds

really does count and success breeds success clusters of successful tech

success clusters of successful tech

success clusters of successful tech companies will attract more skill they

companies will attract more skill they

companies will attract more skill they attract more investment it’s only a

attract more investment it’s only a

attract more investment it’s only a benefit for the economy if you nurture

benefit for the economy if you nurture

benefit for the economy if you nurture the companies that are really doing well

the companies that are really doing well

the companies that are really doing well because that becomes an expanding

because that becomes an expanding

because that becomes an expanding positive force with some interesting

positive force with some interesting

positive force with some interesting examples you can see around the world

examples you can see around the world

examples you can see around the world about where this is happening really

about where this is happening really

about where this is happening really well

well

well so Singapore for example Changi Airport

so Singapore for example Changi Airport

so Singapore for example Changi Airport announced this year that they are

announced this year that they are

announced this year that they are creating a living lab they’re putting 50

creating a living lab they’re putting 50

creating a living lab they’re putting 50 million Singaporean dollars into a

million Singaporean dollars into a

million Singaporean dollars into a testing environment so that creative

testing environment so that creative

testing environment so that creative tech businesses can test their products

tech businesses can test their products

tech businesses can test their products can experiment can explore in a live

can experiment can explore in a live

can experiment can explore in a live airport environment and there’s a win

airport environment and there’s a win

airport environment and there’s a win for everybody here the businesses get to

for everybody here the businesses get to

for everybody here the businesses get to test their products they get to improve

test their products they get to improve

test their products they get to improve their products and as we all know by

their products and as we all know by

their products and as we all know by testing and improving that’s how you

testing and improving that’s how you

testing and improving that’s how you really start to meet the needs of your

really start to meet the needs of your

really start to meet the needs of your users

users

users it’s also a real win for the airport

it’s also a real win for the airport

it’s also a real win for the airport they get to be the beneficiaries of that

they get to be the beneficiaries of that

they get to be the beneficiaries of that technology they get to make the most of

technology they get to make the most of

technology they get to make the most of the innovations that are coming out of

the innovations that are coming out of

the innovations that are coming out of those companies they get to be at the

those companies they get to be at the

those companies they get to be at the forefront of the pack of innovation in

forefront of the pack of innovation in

forefront of the pack of innovation in that setting it’s a win win and this I

that setting it’s a win win and this I

that setting it’s a win win and this I think is an example that smart

think is an example that smart

think is an example that smart governments around the world should

governments around the world should

governments around the world should really be looking at and trying to

really be looking at and trying to

really be looking at and trying to emulate as far as possible because

emulate as far as possible because

emulate as far as possible because nurturing your ecosystem is the way in

nurturing your ecosystem is the way in

nurturing your ecosystem is the way in which you’re really going to promote

which you’re really going to promote

which you’re really going to promote technology and drive better public

technology and drive better public

technology and drive better public services I think just to sum up is it

services I think just to sum up is it

services I think just to sum up is it worth it it sounds like an effort it’s a

worth it it sounds like an effort it’s a

worth it it sounds like an effort it’s a lot of change is it really worth it I’d

lot of change is it really worth it I’d

lot of change is it really worth it I’d have to say yes because if governments

have to say yes because if governments

have to say yes because if governments really take advantage of technology

really take advantage of technology

really take advantage of technology today tomorrow the day after that’s the

today tomorrow the day after that’s the

today tomorrow the day after that’s the way in which they will begin to build

way in which they will begin to build

way in which they will begin to build public services that are not only

public services that are not only

public services that are not only cheaper more efficient they’re also more

cheaper more efficient they’re also more

cheaper more efficient they’re also more effective driving better quality of life

effective driving better quality of life

effective driving better quality of life for their citizens and that brings

for their citizens and that brings

for their citizens and that brings benefits for government businesses

benefits for government businesses

benefits for government businesses citizens and society as a whole

citizens and society as a whole

citizens and society as a whole thanks very much

thanks very much

thanks very much [Applause]

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