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You win, I win, we all win! You just have to “lose it” first | Kate Harvey | TEDxColegioNuevaGranada


I just brought you into one of my

I just brought you into one of my memories I was living in Kuwait when I

memories I was living in Kuwait when I

memories I was living in Kuwait when I was 23 years old and I used to run along

was 23 years old and I used to run along

was 23 years old and I used to run along the corniche to the Kuwait towers and

the corniche to the Kuwait towers and

the corniche to the Kuwait towers and back listening to no doubt I’m just a

back listening to no doubt I’m just a

back listening to no doubt I’m just a girl and there was a bit of taste of

girl and there was a bit of taste of

girl and there was a bit of taste of irony in her lyrics a line just a girl

irony in her lyrics a line just a girl

irony in her lyrics a line just a girl yet she’s really strong punk rocker and

yet she’s really strong punk rocker and

yet she’s really strong punk rocker and there was a taste of irony in the sense

there was a taste of irony in the sense

there was a taste of irony in the sense that I miss female from the United

that I miss female from the United

that I miss female from the United States and I’m running in a country

States and I’m running in a country

States and I’m running in a country where women are really pushed down low

where women are really pushed down low

where women are really pushed down low low second-class and it also made me

low second-class and it also made me

low second-class and it also made me question well how much power do they

question well how much power do they

question well how much power do they even have and so that’s kind of where a

even have and so that’s kind of where a

even have and so that’s kind of where a lot of this started in my mind you’re

lot of this started in my mind you’re

lot of this started in my mind you’re going to hear me use the words boys

going to hear me use the words boys

going to hear me use the words boys girls females males today in my top and

girls females males today in my top and

girls females males today in my top and I want you to know that I do not use

I want you to know that I do not use

I want you to know that I do not use their traditional boxes for that that

their traditional boxes for that that

their traditional boxes for that that gender has a personality and

gender has a personality and

gender has a personality and characteristics and nonconformity and I

characteristics and nonconformity and I

characteristics and nonconformity and I invite you to be very open with those

invite you to be very open with those

invite you to be very open with those terms so my kids are in second third

terms so my kids are in second third

terms so my kids are in second third grade here at Colegio nueva Granada and

grade here at Colegio nueva Granada and

grade here at Colegio nueva Granada and they said to me mama we saw your face

they said to me mama we saw your face

they said to me mama we saw your face mother coaster your payment and I was so

mother coaster your payment and I was so

mother coaster your payment and I was so excited I had to run to campus and see

excited I had to run to campus and see

excited I had to run to campus and see it and I looked at the title my title

it and I looked at the title my title

it and I looked at the title my title this title kind of for the first time

this title kind of for the first time

this title kind of for the first time from a distance and I was a little

from a distance and I was a little

from a distance and I was a little worried I’m like okay I’m going to begin

worried I’m like okay I’m going to begin

worried I’m like okay I’m going to begin to teenagers and they’re going to see

to teenagers and they’re going to see

to teenagers and they’re going to see losing you have to lose it first and I’m

losing you have to lose it first and I’m

losing you have to lose it first and I’m so scared they’re gonna think just lose

so scared they’re gonna think just lose

so scared they’re gonna think just lose your virginity and then we’re all going

your virginity and then we’re all going

your virginity and then we’re all going to be cold and I was like oh my gosh

to be cold and I was like oh my gosh

to be cold and I was like oh my gosh okay

okay

okay I had change that now you’re going to

I had change that now you’re going to

I had change that now you’re going to change that in the future but what I

change that in the future but what I

change that in the future but what I meant by lose it was really talking to

meant by lose it was really talking to

meant by lose it was really talking to the females about losing that really

the females about losing that really

the females about losing that really mean

mean

mean inner dialogue we sometimes have when we

inner dialogue we sometimes have when we

inner dialogue we sometimes have when we look in the mirror and therefore also

look in the mirror and therefore also

look in the mirror and therefore also losing kind of the cut downs and

losing kind of the cut downs and

losing kind of the cut downs and put-downs we give to other females so

put-downs we give to other females so

put-downs we give to other females so this was my essential question do women

this was my essential question do women

this was my essential question do women more than men hold their core self value

more than men hold their core self value

more than men hold their core self value in their perception of their bodies and

in their perception of their bodies and

in their perception of their bodies and looks and if yes does that impact gender

looks and if yes does that impact gender

looks and if yes does that impact gender inequality and the answers are I don’t

inequality and the answers are I don’t

inequality and the answers are I don’t know and this is really a conversation

know and this is really a conversation

know and this is really a conversation starter that I hope that you’ll see me

starter that I hope that you’ll see me

starter that I hope that you’ll see me after the chat or the middle school and

after the chat or the middle school and

after the chat or the middle school and high school counselors all have my email

high school counselors all have my email

high school counselors all have my email I’d like to know what you think I’m

I’d like to know what you think I’m

I’d like to know what you think I’m going to share what I see and feel I

going to share what I see and feel I

going to share what I see and feel I believe it does impact but I don’t have

believe it does impact but I don’t have

believe it does impact but I don’t have a final answer on that and I believe

a final answer on that and I believe

a final answer on that and I believe that you’re a much better generation

that you’re a much better generation

that you’re a much better generation than my generation and so maybe it feels

than my generation and so maybe it feels

than my generation and so maybe it feels a lot different for you guys so I really

a lot different for you guys so I really

a lot different for you guys so I really want to hear from you so the global

want to hear from you so the global

want to hear from you so the global gender reporter studies the inequalities

gender reporter studies the inequalities

gender reporter studies the inequalities around the world and that some countries

around the world and that some countries

around the world and that some countries are doing better than others but

are doing better than others but

are doing better than others but globally they say we’ve reached our

globally they say we’ve reached our

globally they say we’ve reached our goals sixty-eight percent so if one

goals sixty-eight percent so if one

goals sixty-eight percent so if one hundred percent is 100 percent gender

hundred percent is 100 percent gender

hundred percent is 100 percent gender equality

equality

equality we’re only 68 percent there and then by

we’re only 68 percent there and then by

we’re only 68 percent there and then by their projections they say it’ll take a

their projections they say it’ll take a

their projections they say it’ll take a hundred and seventy years for global

hundred and seventy years for global

hundred and seventy years for global gender equality which is waiting room

gender equality which is waiting room

gender equality which is waiting room and again the reason why I’m talking to

and again the reason why I’m talking to

and again the reason why I’m talking to you is you are the future I’m moving

you is you are the future I’m moving

you is you are the future I’m moving you’re going to speak that

you’re going to speak that

you’re going to speak that big time um the Global Gender report

big time um the Global Gender report

big time um the Global Gender report looks at health education economics and

looks at health education economics and

looks at health education economics and politics and I’m just wondering if

politics and I’m just wondering if

politics and I’m just wondering if there’s another piece that we could look

there’s another piece that we could look

there’s another piece that we could look at so there are definitely systemic

at so there are definitely systemic

at so there are definitely systemic problems out there of why men and women

problems out there of why men and women

problems out there of why men and women globally aren’t equal and so we can look

globally aren’t equal and so we can look

globally aren’t equal and so we can look to the outside and say well this is what

to the outside and say well this is what

to the outside and say well this is what might be wrong but I’m going to ask us

might be wrong but I’m going to ask us

might be wrong but I’m going to ask us to look to the inside and when sometimes

to look to the inside and when sometimes

to look to the inside and when sometimes I feel like I can’t change things in my

I feel like I can’t change things in my

I feel like I can’t change things in my outer world I need to ask myself what

outer world I need to ask myself what

outer world I need to ask myself what could I do to change the inside so this

could I do to change the inside so this

could I do to change the inside so this is what I see just me personally growing

is what I see just me personally growing

is what I see just me personally growing up and having about 20 years now in

up and having about 20 years now in

up and having about 20 years now in education as a teacher and a counselor

education as a teacher and a counselor

education as a teacher and a counselor so I do see that there are inequalities

so I do see that there are inequalities

so I do see that there are inequalities but I see it i see qualities becoming

but I see it i see qualities becoming

but I see it i see qualities becoming much better than they were when I was a

much better than they were when I was a

much better than they were when I was a teenager and what I want to take off

teenager and what I want to take off

teenager and what I want to take off that table is beautifying there’s

that table is beautifying there’s

that table is beautifying there’s nothing wrong with wanting to look

nothing wrong with wanting to look

nothing wrong with wanting to look beautiful so I’m not talking about that

beautiful so I’m not talking about that

beautiful so I’m not talking about that and in fact I think that there’s just as

and in fact I think that there’s just as

and in fact I think that there’s just as many girls and boys

many girls and boys

many girls and boys stand in front of the mirror for an hour

stand in front of the mirror for an hour

stand in front of the mirror for an hour before school starts as there’s just as

before school starts as there’s just as

before school starts as there’s just as many boys and girls that are like I

many boys and girls that are like I

many boys and girls that are like I don’t care how I look and the fact that

don’t care how I look and the fact that

don’t care how I look and the fact that we might go to the gym to feel good

we might go to the gym to feel good

we might go to the gym to feel good about ourselves and the fact that we

about ourselves and the fact that we

about ourselves and the fact that we think clothes to look good or do our

think clothes to look good or do our

think clothes to look good or do our hair all that is great there’s nothing

hair all that is great there’s nothing

hair all that is great there’s nothing wrong with that and I think it’s equal

wrong with that and I think it’s equal

wrong with that and I think it’s equal across genders and I’m also not talking

across genders and I’m also not talking

across genders and I’m also not talking about self-esteem a lot of research

about self-esteem a lot of research

about self-esteem a lot of research still shows that men and women have

still shows that men and women have

still shows that men and women have equal self-esteem and there’s just as

equal self-esteem and there’s just as

equal self-esteem and there’s just as many women that are confident as there

many women that are confident as there

many women that are confident as there are men so taking self esteem off the

are men so taking self esteem off the

are men so taking self esteem off the table and we’re kind of all equally up

table and we’re kind of all equally up

table and we’re kind of all equally up or down on the self esteem and when

or down on the self esteem and when

or down on the self esteem and when you’re in your adolescent years we’re

you’re in your adolescent years we’re

you’re in your adolescent years we’re kind of all down

kind of all down

kind of all down this view because we’re changing so fast

this view because we’re changing so fast

this view because we’re changing so fast we have a lot of self doubt and it’s

we have a lot of self doubt and it’s

we have a lot of self doubt and it’s kind of our ugliest phase I mean ask any

kind of our ugliest phase I mean ask any

kind of our ugliest phase I mean ask any adult to show you their middle school

adult to show you their middle school

adult to show you their middle school picture they’re like nothing’s two maybe

picture they’re like nothing’s two maybe

picture they’re like nothing’s two maybe more mom equally in adolescence on the

more mom equally in adolescence on the

more mom equally in adolescence on the lower end whereas when we get to a kind

lower end whereas when we get to a kind

lower end whereas when we get to a kind of university above we’re on the higher

of university above we’re on the higher

of university above we’re on the higher end I also see in developed societies

end I also see in developed societies

end I also see in developed societies like Clayton River Grenada ice emails

like Clayton River Grenada ice emails

like Clayton River Grenada ice emails wanting equality as much as females if

wanting equality as much as females if

wanting equality as much as females if you think about your fathers they wanted

you think about your fathers they wanted

you think about your fathers they wanted just as much as your mothers for you to

just as much as your mothers for you to

just as much as your mothers for you to have a great education and send you to

have a great education and send you to

have a great education and send you to this school you look at your teachers

this school you look at your teachers

this school you look at your teachers your male teachers want you just as much

your male teachers want you just as much

your male teachers want you just as much into the math and science as the arts

into the math and science as the arts

into the math and science as the arts and music as they want through both

and music as they want through both

and music as they want through both genders and you look at your classmates

genders and you look at your classmates

genders and you look at your classmates your the boys in class don’t litter in

your the boys in class don’t litter in

your the boys in class don’t litter in all my school they go to a coed school

all my school they go to a coed school

all my school they go to a coed school like having girls in class for whatever

like having girls in class for whatever

like having girls in class for whatever reason it’s a good thing I like to show

reason it’s a good thing I like to show

reason it’s a good thing I like to show up to class because you’re there all

up to class because you’re there all

up to class because you’re there all right so I see in developed areas the

right so I see in developed areas the

right so I see in developed areas the men taking part in it too so what I was

men taking part in it too so what I was

men taking part in it too so what I was feeling like I was feeling if you’re in

feeling like I was feeling if you’re in

feeling like I was feeling if you’re in a developed area like Glade November

a developed area like Glade November

a developed area like Glade November banana and there feels like there’s a

banana and there feels like there’s a

banana and there feels like there’s a lot of equality is there kind of still

lot of equality is there kind of still

lot of equality is there kind of still that missing piece and so I guess the

that missing piece and so I guess the

that missing piece and so I guess the way I perceive it males also have doubts

way I perceive it males also have doubts

way I perceive it males also have doubts about their bodies but I feel like a

about their bodies but I feel like a

about their bodies but I feel like a male will be like okay I could lose a

male will be like okay I could lose a

male will be like okay I could lose a few pounds or he’d go to the gym and put

few pounds or he’d go to the gym and put

few pounds or he’d go to the gym and put on muscle and that’s like this little

on muscle and that’s like this little

on muscle and that’s like this little part of my personality but I’m also

part of my personality but I’m also

part of my personality but I’m also braided this and smarted this and I love

braided this and smarted this and I love

braided this and smarted this and I love you

you

you these things and I perceive women being

these things and I perceive women being

these things and I perceive women being more like okay I’m graded this I’m

more like okay I’m graded this I’m

more like okay I’m graded this I’m really smart at this I love doing this

really smart at this I love doing this

really smart at this I love doing this and then you take it all away and you

and then you take it all away and you

and then you take it all away and you come down to my core and I’m like and I

come down to my core and I’m like and I

come down to my core and I’m like and I don’t like the way I look

don’t like the way I look

don’t like the way I look and I feel like that kind of carries in

and I feel like that kind of carries in

and I feel like that kind of carries in the center and they worry that that’s

the center and they worry that that’s

the center and they worry that that’s what holds us down and then I’m worried

what holds us down and then I’m worried

what holds us down and then I’m worried that we then tear each other females

that we then tear each other females

that we then tear each other females down because of that this is what I feel

down because of that this is what I feel

down because of that this is what I feel that okay you see the number one I just

that okay you see the number one I just

that okay you see the number one I just lost my audience okay boys are mean to

lost my audience okay boys are mean to

lost my audience okay boys are mean to boys are mean to but girls are mean in

boys are mean to but girls are mean in

boys are mean to but girls are mean in this like psychological warfare kind of

this like psychological warfare kind of

this like psychological warfare kind of thing like I feel like with when a guy

thing like I feel like with when a guy

thing like I feel like with when a guy is a jerk like a mean jerk the guy’s

is a jerk like a mean jerk the guy’s

is a jerk like a mean jerk the guy’s like hey I’m a jerk what and so you can

like hey I’m a jerk what and so you can

like hey I’m a jerk what and so you can decide if you want to take it or leave

decide if you want to take it or leave

decide if you want to take it or leave it it’s kind of all up front there but

it it’s kind of all up front there but

it it’s kind of all up front there but some of the meanest girls are like the

some of the meanest girls are like the

some of the meanest girls are like the teachers favorites because they’re know

teachers favorites because they’re know

teachers favorites because they’re know how to talk to adults they’re like

how to talk to adults they’re like

how to talk to adults they’re like popular and they’re even your friend

popular and they’re even your friend

popular and they’re even your friend because they know how to put on this

because they know how to put on this

because they know how to put on this surface thing look behind your back

surface thing look behind your back

surface thing look behind your back they’re like tearing you down I just

they’re like tearing you down I just

they’re like tearing you down I just feel like that a gender difference and I

feel like that a gender difference and I

feel like that a gender difference and I don’t know maybe you don’t feel that I

don’t know maybe you don’t feel that I

don’t know maybe you don’t feel that I did and I do

did and I do

did and I do um so if you like together it’s kind of

um so if you like together it’s kind of

um so if you like together it’s kind of like I think nails using competition as

like I think nails using competition as

like I think nails using competition as a way to motivate them to be better so

a way to motivate them to be better so

a way to motivate them to be better so if a guy is like okay that dudes my boss

if a guy is like okay that dudes my boss

if a guy is like okay that dudes my boss or that guy is the starting player on

or that guy is the starting player on

or that guy is the starting player on our team what can I do to get better so

our team what can I do to get better so

our team what can I do to get better so that I’m the boss and then

that I’m the boss and then

that I’m the boss and then in the starting player and I’m worried

in the starting player and I’m worried

in the starting player and I’m worried that girls and not all girls at all and

that girls and not all girls at all and

that girls and not all girls at all and maybe not girls at our school maybe

maybe not girls at our school maybe

maybe not girls at our school maybe elsewhere that girls tend to use

elsewhere that girls tend to use

elsewhere that girls tend to use competition as a way to validate their

competition as a way to validate their

competition as a way to validate their fears like hey that girl is my boss or

fears like hey that girl is my boss or

fears like hey that girl is my boss or that girl has a starting position so how

that girl has a starting position so how

that girl has a starting position so how can I tear her down so that she doesn’t

can I tear her down so that she doesn’t

can I tear her down so that she doesn’t have power over me and that’s what I

have power over me and that’s what I

have power over me and that’s what I worry about and that’s what I want to

worry about and that’s what I want to

worry about and that’s what I want to change and that’s what I just want to

change and that’s what I just want to

change and that’s what I just want to look at today so I don’t want to sound

look at today so I don’t want to sound

look at today so I don’t want to sound like I’m a total bummer

like I’m a total bummer

like I’m a total bummer and downer on females I love females I

and downer on females I love females I

and downer on females I love females I love the female I love myself

love the female I love myself

love the female I love myself some of my best friends are females okay

some of my best friends are females okay

some of my best friends are females okay so I’m definitely not being a downer um

so I’m definitely not being a downer um

so I’m definitely not being a downer um but what do I want to get out of this

but what do I want to get out of this

but what do I want to get out of this and yes that’s me um I’m not looking to

and yes that’s me um I’m not looking to

and yes that’s me um I’m not looking to be like a zero or a big changer but I

be like a zero or a big changer but I

be like a zero or a big changer but I wanted to use this as a conversation

wanted to use this as a conversation

wanted to use this as a conversation starter and and ask you guys to make

starter and and ask you guys to make

starter and and ask you guys to make some changes the thing is is that in

some changes the thing is is that in

some changes the thing is is that in adolescence you guys are making neural

adolescence you guys are making neural

adolescence you guys are making neural pathways in your brains you’re making

pathways in your brains you’re making

pathways in your brains you’re making them right now the ones that last and

them right now the ones that last and

them right now the ones that last and you’re pruning away all the stuff you

you’re pruning away all the stuff you

you’re pruning away all the stuff you don’t need so don’t don’t stay with that

don’t need so don’t don’t stay with that

don’t need so don’t don’t stay with that negative vibe you could change it right

negative vibe you could change it right

negative vibe you could change it right now and collectively I believe as women

now and collectively I believe as women

now and collectively I believe as women we rise up because of it

we rise up because of it

we rise up because of it so I’m asking the boys and the males and

so I’m asking the boys and the males and

so I’m asking the boys and the males and the audience continue to keep equality

the audience continue to keep equality

the audience continue to keep equality going as you’re doing please remember

going as you’re doing please remember

going as you’re doing please remember that the word feminism means equality it

that the word feminism means equality it

that the word feminism means equality it doesn’t mean girls rule so boys don’t be

doesn’t mean girls rule so boys don’t be

doesn’t mean girls rule so boys don’t be afraid to say you’re a feminist and

afraid to say you’re a feminist and

afraid to say you’re a feminist and girls please remember when you look in

girls please remember when you look in

girls please remember when you look in the mirror and you’re kind of putting

the mirror and you’re kind of putting

the mirror and you’re kind of putting yourself down and then you might then

yourself down and then you might then

yourself down and then you might then tear somebody else down another female

tear somebody else down another female

tear somebody else down another female down we just stayed down here in

down we just stayed down here in

down we just stayed down here in second-class you know let’s just kind of

second-class you know let’s just kind of

second-class you know let’s just kind of link arms together and rise up together

link arms together and rise up together

link arms together and rise up together all right

all right

all right [Applause]

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