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Espartanos | Eduardo “Coco” Oderigo | TEDxUCA


at the beginning of March 2009

I go to my rugby club where he played from

9 to 35 years old

the san isidro club and one a person who

he played with me he told me I want to know

a jail

and what do you call me good because

we have worked in the judiciary

for a lot of time in games

criminal

yes but I worked in court the

we put prisoners but from there to go to the

jail

pretty far good but the only

person who can take me or I do not know

to anyone who can put me in a

prison to mean the

good jail I want to know how he lives

half that I took it off and

He started insisting I insisted

he insisted the following week again

he called me on the phone until he pulled out

off as there are in prisons

new near the club were two prisons

very small one of maxims and the

security in the background led us to a

of the maximum front or

sticks

good we combine we combine a one

late we went do not look at and in the entrance

west who are good and now

Secretary of the Federal Court of San

isidro dr pass good

we went through both the place and what

we saw there the truth that unpleasant

there are many people doing nothing

They looked at people badly with resentment

I hate sad people down after

of going around we did not go my friend

Jose met the jail and I stayed

thinking these people who are here not the

we see passing between four walls

every day these are released

They are the ones who come out and kill you and

we do not see them we think that

they are well covered and but all

days leave because Argentina is no pity

of death so these people come out and I

I was thinking that something must be done

you have to be something

the sport did me very well especially

rugby I went to work at that height

is going to let the judiciary is

working in the studio that thoroughly my

grandfather and one day he came back from the center and

I said I will go to jail again and my

life the maximum since the water

does the maximum security very well

the fund and by the director who was and

tell me who you are yourself secretary

general and so it happened doctor wanted to see

the court like him

we went through it and the plot court was

quite large but of rough stones

water and right there I say look I have

good teaching plays rugby

here to rugby not to forget that

this is an extremely sport

violent and these people are extremely

violent

you want to throw naphtha on fire not

last night the ranking and well I

I see on television how they were distributed

head nudges are stepped to give

keep a good view nothing and started

a little angry but good to know good

but I see it is and they regret to insist

insist that it has different values ​​and

blah blah blah has also asked to have

to make a note

we download ideas a paper properly the

Battle of the guy did not know how to get me out

from above when you want to come they did

Friday, Monday will open on

Monday leaves everything for Monday and the

Tuesday left the boys at school

at 9 9 and a half on Tuesday I’m here

seen me pulled out of me I went Monday to

afternoon in the studio suit

computers that tomorrow today in a

maximum security prison a

teach them to play rugby at

worst offenders in the area where I

I say who I called on the phone

hi joseph josé look i went to the bottom

the prosecutor of the fund yes I told him that

wants to be that play the ranking and not you

I can believe

it started tomorrow at half past nine

you accompany children and he tells me neither in fart

I want to meet the jail not

I wanted to go play rugby

but why do not you call him and tell me

the flames at long as long as santiago

artese your second line that measures two

meters weighs 110 kilos that has played

with me

in fact it was already called to the Galicians

I tell you the story you accompany me

hate

so I say instead of wearing a

friend I got a bodyguard

we left this Tuesday morning to the

jail

we arrived the director sees us with

shorts a ball they make

here and I told you on Friday that we were coming

today we spend the people who tell me that

it comes does not come anymore

we do not always try to be difficult

arrival had like 45 meters to get there

to the court

an old shorts can not be

the director tells me good so go

the document the validity of the old

he did not do enough and we got to the court

is that I have seen above but

in there and the month director tells us

Well who do you want to get them down and

We said there were no boys to see

If you have to get off the pavilion

court

well we do now better how is

fact that we have no idea

here there are pavilions are twelve pavilions

in each person and 40 people

if in booth 1 stand the

evangelists painted her is all

ordered they spend it fasting praying

so good for me are two do not

so much prayer the flag 3 no longer

they fast until April 12 where

everything is burned there is one dead per month

I said I am Catholic but now that

we enter the evangelists

He started looking for evangelists and in the

court there were two giants that waited

the director go and say

we want to play by showing their

friends and let’s go to that they left us

we are only with the long to the court

to the ratito and the director of the hand of a

evangelist roberto contented direct

unfortunately the rai do not go to

walk because with us you can play

so accompanies the door not to

for there were 2 on the court that went to

look for friends and suddenly they come 9 so

big guy like longa and the director of

excess of flag 12 are the worst

of all and that height to move

until we will have the same

crazy and the place delivered the ready

entered the 9 between the evangelist

the director says guard let’s go they went

closing the door we never went to a

guard

we made a round and I said I thought

that is more afraid but to speed up the

my subject explains it the longa by

there 45 this can accommodate and I

I’ll have to start running and running

until he grabs me we said good is a

new sport let’s make an entrance

in heat they tie and good all

running there and they come back and the 10

assaults to train a team of minors

10 years old and I said to the boys there

to move them a bit then I said here

we doubt and for boys all when

failed to come back again and again

they started to pay attention to the push-ups

of abdominal arms we teach them

attack loved the tackle the ball

we go back to the match we finish

we made a round and one says good

thank you for coming and others and

thank you thank you and another pull back they ‘re going to

come back one more time and I without thinking and

g

every Tuesday he spent it every month

I came boludo is nothing more

From there it passed over 400

Tuesday we ‘re going to this one to unit 48

san martín to train the team it

called the Spartans started to play

better every time

they started coming from other pavilions

only 12 luckily I got out more

evangelists begin to interact the

first wall topples nap

between them they did not cross over time

more people started coming

accompanying we trained ourselves in wine

another group that we played here

but I can and I must then to the point

that today go on a Monday

group of psychologists Tuesday we are going to

train rag and on Wednesdays another group

to eat croissants afternoon to play

to the trick the games do yoga

imagine the situation doing yoga

and Friday prays the rosary is something

that was implemented four years ago and

today I can say that all the

Friday more than 70 people from the street

as we say nothing to pray the

rosary with them and this this happens the

Monday as told in unit 48 san

kingfisher we started making matches

outside more matches directed why

not playing a game on a court

true because that court of all callao

and also one day we got better game

and as we continue to tear down walls because

do not play a root party

I found out that he saw a radio team

of the metropolitan police police

films that prisoners told me

but hey we finally play cops

prisoners in the margin to win does not matter

it is not a minor detail

we move forward on this and good as me

I found out that there is a team of judges and

prosecutors in the same place

They are the same who had gotten

prisoners had radio equipment and I started

to talk to all the judges and

prosecutors do not pay or do not you kill me

call the street only condemns seven

years and until now and did not give me

wish or not after ‘the of

convince everyone and made that party in

English club no longer provided by the

court went very well in a

opportunity and no agustín pichot

reference of the Argentine rock and it

he found out about that game we played

this match begins when affectation

outside

out 150 people there is no need to

do it in a place that is now going

to play between a couple of months in the

unique stadium of silver juan cougars

all blacks is the game of the year

preliminary spartans judges and prosecutors

file of if we go and I play

Match exercises in the stadium

city ​​of silver that went very well

this generated that after we started

leave every three months to play some

party some club will start to invite

to teams in group 4 of the drugs and

the two worst to the point of arriving

to the first guests in Cuba in the

I know that newman in different teams of

Argentine rally we started to play that

generated with this thing that we

obviously we do not imagine with the logo in

its time in a match a year ago

and peak for all to tell

benidorm was times of 20 minutes in the

first halftime johnny approached me

that in the second line that was not so

wide as canvas but mediated meters me

presents his son Santino Santino five

years are blond or the sanctity of

chacao de ti right

santino and the father presents it to me when

it is going well it is known that coco what

I just know how you just met

and by surprise more than five years ago

and my ex-wife did not take him to jail

with all the reason in the world to see

his father in that situation the truth is not

it’s good but this coming to play

a club three hours leave because they are

three months saved those three again

hours

així and seeing that his father doing

something good if eta is creating that

is jumping on the line or making a

trauma ran then there brought it to me

and I got to know peace

well this continued continued if

we continue playing matches 11 of those of

the people who come with us what

know francisco and they start

interact melba comes to me and already with the

crazy things we had done up there

We said why we’re not going to visit the

Pope with ten former prisoners and people who

have come out that they have been reinserted into the

society

well this finally the pope found out

and we went

to roma to I have to win us friends

and others in that madness that pay it does not

could do

we got to Rome and the pope

I know what 10 spartans expect

they were ahead and all of us behind

and they are all together

yes because the ex-prisoners are a judge

penal

the director of the jail his director

businessman or the srag e so much together and

he the tooth and the correntino order with

Judge

the dwarf santi the hare sleep with the

prison director and the role of all

situation and I know but that’s

integration and so with your hands is

to do it everywhere

we thought it was the strawberry

of dessert go out to see the pope and

Norman to work

we arrived at each turn of the trip and the

justice secretary who had

appointed a few months ago santiago

He has also worked extensively in

courts

Mexico counted spartans before

I want to do in all of Argentina

as you have any idea I would love

that they are volunteers and how would I do if

gave a rage club a talk the

Thursday night they are all

juveniles the top what the

board of directors veterans give

a talk and invite them so that the

next day let’s go to the

jail that is four blocks from the

club that nobody ever entered let’s approve

Formosa La Pampa We did that started

a year ago and coins that are

playing the pampa we did it in jumps and

in jujuy and mendoza in tucumán chubut

Neuquén this end this Thursday and Friday

let’s go to the land of fire

We’ve been two days and we’re back Thursday and

Friday

all this story that seems very beautiful

the truth that behind this there are all

them that are there weeks one more

great other more girls

the vast majority robbery with weapons us

we do not want them to leave even one day before

from there that prison to anyone

some judge or not but yes juanra and for

that can lower your pain if there

someone who is going to lower the penalty to

any of them

I’m going to deny myself so this is not

has nothing to do with the grief that

they made it all fair

or unfair we are more is not our

path is what we are looking for what

yes we want is to give you tools to

that tomorrow when it comes out in

freedom

do not commit new crimes

this has achieved over time to lower the

level of internal violence in prison

first first measure there is no longer

so much fight but with the tackle he did

they were encouraged to lear tac feel

that they can I can shut up

I can study can I change could I do

the evil and what I want to say my

destiny that they believed their destiny was

jail or death and believes appear

other possibilities to the point such that

about a year and a half ago until

this team was training of boys of 10

11 years old already had an opportunity

take us to jail

before the game a classic with the

case and to give it handle and to see

another reality took him to jail 20

boy of 17 years we made a kind of

tournament the boys will be the

coaches of them to give them to

that they know another reality

to all this I had taken to another

my son there there plays one of my

children and another who has had if he had

the version to another opportunity

it was there I thought I want to play and more

evade and dad says

jail is the best

Well, come on, have to wait for a

little to explain it better as the

personal situation of 1717 understand

better the situation

well they went from there and wings to 68

months this episode happens that is that in

an opportunity with the girl came to

his house could workout he gets

a person after the one taken to cook a

knife in the neck

Give me everything finish all poor quality no

was the girl was only with her

parents and their six brothers

the brothers to the screams and one of the

guys that had taken me out

that when I was 17

thomas dekker varela is called what started

to rebuke he had the knife A

person k and tomás who told him everything

insulted him anger and father and that

situation while preparing the

situation

another one of the children of the 911 call the

father takes the reins says to have

that cargo tomás corr leaves you the

appeals is this person puts the

knife to the father they got into the car

of the family is the father hector

handling this person with the knife

back they start to walk and start

it seems the police never gave themselves

mind that there was a hostage if not

I thought they were two criminals

they started throwing throwing away life

throw you are shot in the leg to the

father of a family and he was operated on

three times the newspaper that if the rengo

but good that story to take the head

He spun and the following month

he called me on the phone and tells me little

the episode of houses and of course not

something can be done for that person

that enters house that is stopped what

move to unit 48 and play for

the spartans you take because you want that

I thought this one to want to have it

close to box him an hour and a half

no no what I want is I want to go to

accompany you and help so that

person with the racc and changed to help him

and so that when it goes free we

steal never again did we finally

after many laps it appeared

Javier Cardozo who have a boy of 19

years tomás hoy 18 that message let’s say

that there is no other but for him was what

most natural in the world

for me it was to put it up there this

give second chances take it what

I had very clear with the simple fact of

see another reality and he lived it ugly and

he picked up the phone and we go with

the second opportunities and the message

it’s not the one I want to transmit there’s

what to expect to be how to take varela and

have an episode like this but

Encourage us to give second chances to

people can tell a boss to a

co- worker with family member to a

father or a mother to a brother and up

a son

thank you very much

[Music]

[Applause]

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