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Embracing Mental Illness | John Hoffman | TEDxKeene


today I’m going to share with you a

today I’m going to share with you a personal story and I hope that talking

personal story and I hope that talking

personal story and I hope that talking about my decades of dealing with

about my decades of dealing with

about my decades of dealing with depression might shed some light on this

depression might shed some light on this

depression might shed some light on this very common disease and help show why

very common disease and help show why

very common disease and help show why mental illness shouldn’t be considered

mental illness shouldn’t be considered

mental illness shouldn’t be considered any more shameful than diabetes or

any more shameful than diabetes or

any more shameful than diabetes or asthma or all sorts of other common

asthma or all sorts of other common

asthma or all sorts of other common chronic disorders briefly here’s the

chronic disorders briefly here’s the

chronic disorders briefly here’s the chronology I was born in New York City

chronology I was born in New York City

chronology I was born in New York City into a modest middle-class family in the

into a modest middle-class family in the

into a modest middle-class family in the middle of the Great Depression and grew

middle of the Great Depression and grew

middle of the Great Depression and grew up in White Plains a Westchester County

up in White Plains a Westchester County

up in White Plains a Westchester County suburb north of the city my parents were

suburb north of the city my parents were

suburb north of the city my parents were both college graduates and my mother

both college graduates and my mother

both college graduates and my mother even went to law school at a time when

even went to law school at a time when

even went to law school at a time when women didn’t do that sort of thing they

women didn’t do that sort of thing they

women didn’t do that sort of thing they they valued education and I was

they valued education and I was

they valued education and I was fortunate and that they made available

fortunate and that they made available

fortunate and that they made available for me a series of first-rate

for me a series of first-rate

for me a series of first-rate opportunities so I spent four years at

opportunities so I spent four years at

opportunities so I spent four years at the chowk School in Wallingford

the chowk School in Wallingford

the chowk School in Wallingford Connecticut followed by Princeton where

Connecticut followed by Princeton where

Connecticut followed by Princeton where I graduated with honors in psychology

I graduated with honors in psychology

I graduated with honors in psychology and then on to Harvard Law School but

and then on to Harvard Law School but

and then on to Harvard Law School but only after serving a couple of years as

only after serving a couple of years as

only after serving a couple of years as an officer in the US Army I was

an officer in the US Army I was

an officer in the US Army I was recruited right out of law school into a

recruited right out of law school into a

recruited right out of law school into a major Wall Street law firm where

major Wall Street law firm where

major Wall Street law firm where elevation to partnership was the single

elevation to partnership was the single

elevation to partnership was the single one step past a professional success and

one step past a professional success and

one step past a professional success and on May 1 1968 I became a partner I then

on May 1 1968 I became a partner I then

on May 1 1968 I became a partner I then spent years dealing playing in the major

spent years dealing playing in the major

spent years dealing playing in the major leagues of Finance and legal affairs

leagues of Finance and legal affairs

leagues of Finance and legal affairs specializing in international dispute

specializing in international dispute

specializing in international dispute resolution litigation and negotiation in

resolution litigation and negotiation in

resolution litigation and negotiation in my practice I represented a variety of

my practice I represented a variety of

my practice I represented a variety of very prominent US and foreign

very prominent US and foreign

very prominent US and foreign corporations and their senior management

corporations and their senior management

corporations and their senior management and some of their more challenging legal

and some of their more challenging legal

and some of their more challenging legal and financial problems my practice made

and financial problems my practice made

and financial problems my practice made me financially secure and while the

me financially secure and while the

me financially secure and while the hours were long and sometimes stressful

hours were long and sometimes stressful

hours were long and sometimes stressful and had minimal family to

and had minimal family to

and had minimal family to I was supported throughout by my child

I was supported throughout by my child

I was supported throughout by my child bride and partner of over 60 years as

bride and partner of over 60 years as

bride and partner of over 60 years as Jean and I raised five children in the

Jean and I raised five children in the

Jean and I raised five children in the commuter town of Chappaqua New York

commuter town of Chappaqua New York

commuter town of Chappaqua New York followed by 12 grandchildren two

followed by 12 grandchildren two

followed by 12 grandchildren two great-grandchildren and now two more

great-grandchildren and now two more

great-grandchildren and now two more twin boys on the way my legal career

twin boys on the way my legal career

twin boys on the way my legal career took off to heights I never could have

took off to heights I never could have

took off to heights I never could have imagined resulting at one time and

imagined resulting at one time and

imagined resulting at one time and national acclaim praise from the

national acclaim praise from the

national acclaim praise from the President of the United States and

President of the United States and

President of the United States and congressional committees and being named

congressional committees and being named

congressional committees and being named the International lawyer of the year

the International lawyer of the year

the International lawyer of the year after it became public knowledge that I

after it became public knowledge that I

after it became public knowledge that I had spent a year conducting secret but

had spent a year conducting secret but

had spent a year conducting secret but government authorized negotiations with

government authorized negotiations with

government authorized negotiations with Iran leading to the release of the

Iran leading to the release of the

Iran leading to the release of the American hostages from the US Embassy in

American hostages from the US Embassy in

American hostages from the US Embassy in Tehran where they’d been held captive

Tehran where they’d been held captive

Tehran where they’d been held captive for over a year

thank you I retired at the peak of my

thank you I retired at the peak of my legal career as a senior partner in a

legal career as a senior partner in a

legal career as a senior partner in a major international law firm and moved

major international law firm and moved

major international law firm and moved to the little hill town of Sullivan New

to the little hill town of Sullivan New

to the little hill town of Sullivan New Hampshire where unexpectedly I I became

Hampshire where unexpectedly I I became

Hampshire where unexpectedly I I became involved in a second career rather

involved in a second career rather

involved in a second career rather quickly in the nonprofit sector where

quickly in the nonprofit sector where

quickly in the nonprofit sector where I’ve served on or led a variety of

I’ve served on or led a variety of

I’ve served on or led a variety of social service and all sorts of other

social service and all sorts of other

social service and all sorts of other charitable organizations and local

charitable organizations and local

charitable organizations and local governmental committees this latter day

governmental committees this latter day

governmental committees this latter day and still active engagement has also led

and still active engagement has also led

and still active engagement has also led to some gratifying local statewide

to some gratifying local statewide

to some gratifying local statewide recognition and formal Awards looking

recognition and formal Awards looking

recognition and formal Awards looking looking only at that brief outline one

looking only at that brief outline one

looking only at that brief outline one might think that this is quite an

might think that this is quite an

might think that this is quite an enviable life journey but it was also

enviable life journey but it was also

enviable life journey but it was also one impacted by mental illness and

one impacted by mental illness and

one impacted by mental illness and periods of alcohol abuse

as I look back now over these years in

as I look back now over these years in the context of the theme here today I

the context of the theme here today I

the context of the theme here today I think I can identify a series of what

think I can identify a series of what

think I can identify a series of what you could call tipping points all by

you could call tipping points all by

you could call tipping points all by some strange coincidence occurring on

some strange coincidence occurring on

some strange coincidence occurring on May 1 to begin with I was born on May 1

May 1 to begin with I was born on May 1

May 1 to begin with I was born on May 1 1934 and some 30 odd years later was

1934 and some 30 odd years later was

1934 and some 30 odd years later was elected to partnership in in my law firm

elected to partnership in in my law firm

elected to partnership in in my law firm on May 1 1968 while this was a pivotal

on May 1 1968 while this was a pivotal

on May 1 1968 while this was a pivotal pivotal career achievement within a year

pivotal career achievement within a year

pivotal career achievement within a year I crashed and fell into an almost

I crashed and fell into an almost

I crashed and fell into an almost catatonic depression my condition caused

catatonic depression my condition caused

catatonic depression my condition caused frightful pain and an anxiety for my

frightful pain and an anxiety for my

frightful pain and an anxiety for my family and when efforts to get me back

family and when efforts to get me back

family and when efforts to get me back on a road to recovery failed on another

on a road to recovery failed on another

on a road to recovery failed on another May 1 1969 I was placed into a locked

May 1 1969 I was placed into a locked

May 1 1969 I was placed into a locked ward of a New York metal Hospital and

ward of a New York metal Hospital and

ward of a New York metal Hospital and there I remained for a year with little

there I remained for a year with little

there I remained for a year with little promise of recovery behind those locked

promise of recovery behind those locked

promise of recovery behind those locked doors and windows I lived in a mindless

doors and windows I lived in a mindless

doors and windows I lived in a mindless days of aimless limbo punctuated by

days of aimless limbo punctuated by

days of aimless limbo punctuated by almost 30 applications of the

almost 30 applications of the

almost 30 applications of the old-fashioned strapped down on the table

old-fashioned strapped down on the table

old-fashioned strapped down on the table Cuckoo’s Nest style electroshock

Cuckoo’s Nest style electroshock

Cuckoo’s Nest style electroshock treatment finally after a year with no

treatment finally after a year with no

treatment finally after a year with no apparent meaningful progress my wife

apparent meaningful progress my wife

apparent meaningful progress my wife took things into her own hands Jeanne

took things into her own hands Jeanne

took things into her own hands Jeanne had been consulting a psychiatrist as

had been consulting a psychiatrist as

had been consulting a psychiatrist as she and our five young children

she and our five young children

she and our five young children struggled to cope with my seeming

struggled to cope with my seeming

struggled to cope with my seeming endless absence and Jean and the doctor

endless absence and Jean and the doctor

endless absence and Jean and the doctor managed to persuade the hospital to

managed to persuade the hospital to

managed to persuade the hospital to release me into their care and their

release me into their care and their

release me into their care and their sole responsibility so the hospital

sole responsibility so the hospital

sole responsibility so the hospital people washed

people washed

people washed their hands of me and on another May 1

their hands of me and on another May 1

their hands of me and on another May 1 1970 a year to the day that I was put

1970 a year to the day that I was put

1970 a year to the day that I was put away I finally emerged from that

away I finally emerged from that

away I finally emerged from that god-awful

god-awful

god-awful dismal gothic institution I then began a

dismal gothic institution I then began a

dismal gothic institution I then began a a steady climb out of the worst period

a steady climb out of the worst period

a steady climb out of the worst period of clinical depression that I had ever

of clinical depression that I had ever

of clinical depression that I had ever experienced and within a year I was able

experienced and within a year I was able

experienced and within a year I was able to start back at work at my law firm

to start back at work at my law firm

to start back at work at my law firm which had been helping my family

which had been helping my family

which had been helping my family throughout my absence and supported me

throughout my absence and supported me

throughout my absence and supported me in my recovery the early years consisted

in my recovery the early years consisted

in my recovery the early years consisted of traditional old-fashioned talk

of traditional old-fashioned talk

of traditional old-fashioned talk therapy Prozac and and all these other

therapy Prozac and and all these other

therapy Prozac and and all these other antidepressants weren’t much in use in

antidepressants weren’t much in use in

antidepressants weren’t much in use in those days but fortunately an accidental

those days but fortunately an accidental

those days but fortunately an accidental factor in my recovery it was a lifestyle

factor in my recovery it was a lifestyle

factor in my recovery it was a lifestyle change that that remains part of our

change that that remains part of our

change that that remains part of our regular routine day without knowing what

regular routine day without knowing what

regular routine day without knowing what to expect

to expect

to expect Jean and I got into the running craze

Jean and I got into the running craze

Jean and I got into the running craze just as it was taking off in the late

just as it was taking off in the late

just as it was taking off in the late 1970s and we quickly became active race

1970s and we quickly became active race

1970s and we quickly became active race participants including many full 26-mile

participants including many full 26-mile

participants including many full 26-mile marathons we became firm believers in

marathons we became firm believers in

marathons we became firm believers in the theory that’s now really pretty well

the theory that’s now really pretty well

the theory that’s now really pretty well accepted if not proved that running can

accepted if not proved that running can

accepted if not proved that running can have a beneficial positive beneficial

have a beneficial positive beneficial

have a beneficial positive beneficial effect on emotional condition sometimes

effect on emotional condition sometimes

effect on emotional condition sometimes even referred to as the runner’s high or

even referred to as the runner’s high or

even referred to as the runner’s high or the endorphin effect whatever the

the endorphin effect whatever the

the endorphin effect whatever the biochemical explanation may be the fact

biochemical explanation may be the fact

biochemical explanation may be the fact is that doing it can make you feel good

is that doing it can make you feel good

is that doing it can make you feel good and as most runners know you miss it if

and as most runners know you miss it if

and as most runners know you miss it if you miss it running still helps and

you miss it running still helps and

you miss it running still helps and together with all other factors

together with all other factors

together with all other factors including modest but regular medication

including modest but regular medication

including modest but regular medication and other lifestyle practices such as

and other lifestyle practices such as

and other lifestyle practices such as yoga and met

yoga and met

yoga and met led to unexpected levels of comfort

led to unexpected levels of comfort

led to unexpected levels of comfort happiness and an extraordinary

happiness and an extraordinary

happiness and an extraordinary professional success now I don’t want to

professional success now I don’t want to

professional success now I don’t want to suggest that I consider myself fully

suggest that I consider myself fully

suggest that I consider myself fully cured one of the one of the common side

cured one of the one of the common side

cured one of the one of the common side effects of shock therapy is a periodic

effects of shock therapy is a periodic

effects of shock therapy is a periodic impairment of short-term memory and that

impairment of short-term memory and that

impairment of short-term memory and that only slowly abated in the early in the

only slowly abated in the early in the

only slowly abated in the early in the early times and sometimes I think that

early times and sometimes I think that

early times and sometimes I think that it’s even present today although Jean

it’s even present today although Jean

it’s even present today although Jean insists that it’s no more virulent than

insists that it’s no more virulent than

insists that it’s no more virulent than the common puzzlement of people our age

the common puzzlement of people our age

the common puzzlement of people our age what what did I come into this room for

what what did I come into this room for

what what did I come into this room for I think she’s probably right and these

I think she’s probably right and these

I think she’s probably right and these senior moments are just another aspect

senior moments are just another aspect

senior moments are just another aspect of of what I prefer to think of as

of of what I prefer to think of as

of of what I prefer to think of as creeping maturity more seriously there

creeping maturity more seriously there

creeping maturity more seriously there are still some difficult times but when

are still some difficult times but when

are still some difficult times but when darkness descends or the anxiety beast

darkness descends or the anxiety beast

darkness descends or the anxiety beast attacks at least now I understand these

attacks at least now I understand these

attacks at least now I understand these problems better and I have better tools

problems better and I have better tools

problems better and I have better tools to cope with them painful is as my

to cope with them painful is as my

to cope with them painful is as my illness was for me and for those who

illness was for me and for those who

illness was for me and for those who loved and supported me I came over time

loved and supported me I came over time

loved and supported me I came over time to realize that I’m simply subject to a

to realize that I’m simply subject to a

to realize that I’m simply subject to a chronic but very common and treatable

chronic but very common and treatable

chronic but very common and treatable disease recognizing that I’m stuck with

disease recognizing that I’m stuck with

disease recognizing that I’m stuck with this I decided that I’ll try to learn to

this I decided that I’ll try to learn to

this I decided that I’ll try to learn to live with it and and to use the

live with it and and to use the

live with it and and to use the experience rather than have the

experience rather than have the

experience rather than have the experience use me the irony of this

experience use me the irony of this

experience use me the irony of this story is that that my illness and my

story is that that my illness and my

story is that that my illness and my recovery became positive influences and

recovery became positive influences and

recovery became positive influences and positive influence in both my personal

positive influence in both my personal

positive influence in both my personal and professional life living through

and professional life living through

and professional life living through those dreadful times changed my life

those dreadful times changed my life

those dreadful times changed my life they changed my

they changed my

they changed my values and my priorities and those

values and my priorities and those

values and my priorities and those changes led me to try to be more

changes led me to try to be more

changes led me to try to be more sensitive to the values and concerns of

sensitive to the values and concerns of

sensitive to the values and concerns of others for example back in the day when

others for example back in the day when

others for example back in the day when in my professional life I used to do a

in my professional life I used to do a

in my professional life I used to do a lot of negotiating sometimes in

lot of negotiating sometimes in

lot of negotiating sometimes in difficult situations for example dealing

difficult situations for example dealing

difficult situations for example dealing with the Iranians during the hostage

with the Iranians during the hostage

with the Iranians during the hostage crisis I think that my efforts at trying

crisis I think that my efforts at trying

crisis I think that my efforts at trying to understand and appreciate what’s

to understand and appreciate what’s

to understand and appreciate what’s going on with the other guy even if it’s

going on with the other guy even if it’s

going on with the other guy even if it’s an adversary we’re helpful trying to

an adversary we’re helpful trying to

an adversary we’re helpful trying to discover what’s important or difficult

discover what’s important or difficult

discover what’s important or difficult for others became a working priority for

for others became a working priority for

for others became a working priority for me it’s still a work in progress today

me it’s still a work in progress today

me it’s still a work in progress today and I need to keep at it constantly my

and I need to keep at it constantly my

and I need to keep at it constantly my message today is obviously that mental

message today is obviously that mental

message today is obviously that mental illness need not be a barrier to

illness need not be a barrier to

illness need not be a barrier to happiness or success and despite the the

happiness or success and despite the the

happiness or success and despite the the stigma that still unfortunately prevails

stigma that still unfortunately prevails

stigma that still unfortunately prevails mental illness doesn’t have to preclude

mental illness doesn’t have to preclude

mental illness doesn’t have to preclude a productive and otherwise normal life

a productive and otherwise normal life

a productive and otherwise normal life even if at times it’s painful and

even if at times it’s painful and

even if at times it’s painful and sometimes seems hopeless my own

sometimes seems hopeless my own

sometimes seems hopeless my own experience with depression is hardly

experience with depression is hardly

experience with depression is hardly unique or even unusual the disease of

unique or even unusual the disease of

unique or even unusual the disease of depression has always been a common

depression has always been a common

depression has always been a common affliction and the experience of all

affliction and the experience of all

affliction and the experience of all sorts of people including many

sorts of people including many

sorts of people including many well-known and legendary figures for for

well-known and legendary figures for for

well-known and legendary figures for for example from Abraham Lincoln to Bruce

example from Abraham Lincoln to Bruce

example from Abraham Lincoln to Bruce Springsteen to the extent that they’re

Springsteen to the extent that they’re

Springsteen to the extent that they’re available they’re stories of illness and

available they’re stories of illness and

available they’re stories of illness and recovery or informative and even

recovery or informative and even

recovery or informative and even inspiring william Styron the the

inspiring william Styron the the

inspiring william Styron the the Pulitzer prize-winning author of

Pulitzer prize-winning author of

Pulitzer prize-winning author of Sophie’s Choice and as some of you may

Sophie’s Choice and as some of you may

Sophie’s Choice and as some of you may know who was a medalist over the module

know who was a medalist over the module

know who was a medalist over the module colony a couple of years ago Styron in

colony a couple of years ago Styron in

colony a couple of years ago Styron in his autobiography referred to his

his autobiography referred to his

his autobiography referred to his depression

depression

depression as the wind of the wing of madness

as the wind of the wing of madness

as the wind of the wing of madness Styron’s book darkness visible a memoir

Styron’s book darkness visible a memoir

Styron’s book darkness visible a memoir of madness describes his illness and

of madness describes his illness and

of madness describes his illness and recovery more eloquently than anything

recovery more eloquently than anything

recovery more eloquently than anything I’ve ever come across in read and he

I’ve ever come across in read and he

I’ve ever come across in read and he concludes his personal story with a

concludes his personal story with a

concludes his personal story with a beautifully promising message depression

beautifully promising message depression

beautifully promising message depression is not the soul’s annihilation

is not the soul’s annihilation

is not the soul’s annihilation it is conquerable and then he finishes

it is conquerable and then he finishes

it is conquerable and then he finishes by quoting Dante’s allegorical image of

by quoting Dante’s allegorical image of

by quoting Dante’s allegorical image of recovery from darkness and despair at

recovery from darkness and despair at

recovery from darkness and despair at the end of the inferno when the narrator

the end of the inferno when the narrator

the end of the inferno when the narrator describes emerging from hell’s black

describes emerging from hell’s black

describes emerging from hell’s black depths and so we came forth and once

depths and so we came forth and once

depths and so we came forth and once again beheld the Stars and so we came

again beheld the Stars and so we came

again beheld the Stars and so we came forth and once again beheld the Stars

forth and once again beheld the Stars

forth and once again beheld the Stars and you imagine a more beautiful and

and you imagine a more beautiful and

and you imagine a more beautiful and inspiring message of what it feels like

inspiring message of what it feels like

inspiring message of what it feels like to come out of a pit of depression and

to come out of a pit of depression and

to come out of a pit of depression and despair why can’t I obviously can’t

despair why can’t I obviously can’t

despair why can’t I obviously can’t compete with Dante or Styron and I don’t

compete with Dante or Styron and I don’t

compete with Dante or Styron and I don’t have any fanciful names for my own

have any fanciful names for my own

have any fanciful names for my own condition although I often refer to the

condition although I often refer to the

condition although I often refer to the Dark Ages when Jean and I talk about the

Dark Ages when Jean and I talk about the

Dark Ages when Jean and I talk about the past my own struggle with the depression

past my own struggle with the depression

past my own struggle with the depression anxiety complex has hardly been a walk

anxiety complex has hardly been a walk

anxiety complex has hardly been a walk in the park but there’s no doubt that it

in the park but there’s no doubt that it

in the park but there’s no doubt that it changed my life and for the better

changed my life and for the better

changed my life and for the better in closing I’d ask that you take and

in closing I’d ask that you take and

in closing I’d ask that you take and help share the message that improvement

help share the message that improvement

help share the message that improvement in mental health needs to be

in mental health needs to be

in mental health needs to be a regional and national priority and

a regional and national priority and

a regional and national priority and requires public understanding that

requires public understanding that

requires public understanding that mental illness is just another serious

mental illness is just another serious

mental illness is just another serious but manageable disease that needs to be

but manageable disease that needs to be

but manageable disease that needs to be brought out of the closet recognized

brought out of the closet recognized

brought out of the closet recognized accepted without shame and treated it

accepted without shame and treated it

accepted without shame and treated it can be and it should be and in my case

can be and it should be and in my case

can be and it should be and in my case it has been thank you

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