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why are we so fascinated with Mars

why are we so fascinated with Mars there’s this visceral connection that we

there’s this visceral connection that we

there’s this visceral connection that we have it’s been a constant steady light

have it’s been a constant steady light

have it’s been a constant steady light in the night sky for us you and I can go

in the night sky for us you and I can go

in the night sky for us you and I can go outside tonight on a clear night look

outside tonight on a clear night look

outside tonight on a clear night look towards the south western sky and see a

towards the south western sky and see a

towards the south western sky and see a bright orange star the Red Planet

looking at Mars it’s also of interest

looking at Mars it’s also of interest because it is within what we call the

because it is within what we call the

because it is within what we call the habitable zone around the Sun and so

habitable zone around the Sun and so

habitable zone around the Sun and so we’re going to be exploring tonight a

we’re going to be exploring tonight a

we’re going to be exploring tonight a little bit more I’d like to ask our

little bit more I’d like to ask our

little bit more I’d like to ask our guest here our experts on a little bit

guest here our experts on a little bit

guest here our experts on a little bit about that and let’s get into the

about that and let’s get into the

about that and let’s get into the challenges and what it really takes to

challenges and what it really takes to

challenges and what it really takes to get to Mars Mars is incredibly difficult

get to Mars Mars is incredibly difficult

get to Mars Mars is incredibly difficult to get on to because you have to go

to get on to because you have to go

to get on to because you have to go through the atmosphere and the

through the atmosphere and the

through the atmosphere and the atmosphere is not your friend

atmosphere is not your friend

atmosphere is not your friend because it swells up because of dust

because it swells up because of dust

because it swells up because of dust when there’s a lot of dust in the

when there’s a lot of dust in the

when there’s a lot of dust in the atmosphere it shrinks there are lateral

atmosphere it shrinks there are lateral

atmosphere it shrinks there are lateral winds although the atmosphere is thin

winds although the atmosphere is thin

winds although the atmosphere is thin but it is a scientific bonanza once

but it is a scientific bonanza once

but it is a scientific bonanza once you’re on the surface it has ancient

you’re on the surface it has ancient

you’re on the surface it has ancient rivers at ancient Lakes hydrothermal

rivers at ancient Lakes hydrothermal

rivers at ancient Lakes hydrothermal systems all the evidence is there the

systems all the evidence is there the

systems all the evidence is there the geologic evidence it’s from the first

geologic evidence it’s from the first

geologic evidence it’s from the first half of geologic time so early in

half of geologic time so early in

half of geologic time so early in geologic time Mars was warm and wet and

geologic time Mars was warm and wet and

geologic time Mars was warm and wet and the international exploration of Mars

the international exploration of Mars

the international exploration of Mars robotically is all focused on if it was

robotically is all focused on if it was

robotically is all focused on if it was habitable and whether or not life got

habitable and whether or not life got

habitable and whether or not life got started and evolved and is still there

started and evolved and is still there

started and evolved and is still there it’s amazing so let’s look at some of

it’s amazing so let’s look at some of

it’s amazing so let’s look at some of the technology let’s talk about this

the technology let’s talk about this

the technology let’s talk about this character here I have you means making a

character here I have you means making a

character here I have you means making a lot of buzz in the media right Elon Musk

lot of buzz in the media right Elon Musk

lot of buzz in the media right Elon Musk he’s the head of SpaceX and his true

he’s the head of SpaceX and his true

he’s the head of SpaceX and his true love and passion is space exploration

love and passion is space exploration

love and passion is space exploration and his vision is to send humans to Mars

and his vision is to send humans to Mars

and his vision is to send humans to Mars so NASA isn’t really alone they have

so NASA isn’t really alone they have

so NASA isn’t really alone they have partnerships is that right yeah integral

partnerships is that right yeah integral

partnerships is that right yeah integral well yes so you know NASA historically

well yes so you know NASA historically

well yes so you know NASA historically has partnered with people has consulted

has partnered with people has consulted

has partnered with people has consulted and contracted with organizations all

and contracted with organizations all

and contracted with organizations all over the country right and so as we’re

over the country right and so as we’re

over the country right and so as we’re looking at to this next phase is going

looking at to this next phase is going

looking at to this next phase is going to Mars where they’re still going to

to Mars where they’re still going to

to Mars where they’re still going to have to be these partnerships as you say

have to be these partnerships as you say

have to be these partnerships as you say Elon Musk is one but there are others

Elon Musk is one but there are others

Elon Musk is one but there are others that are going to help us do the

that are going to help us do the

that are going to help us do the important work of figuring out what

important work of figuring out what

important work of figuring out what exactly the best technology is but it is

exactly the best technology is but it is

exactly the best technology is but it is definitely something that we’re going to

definitely something that we’re going to

definitely something that we’re going to have to do together it’s not an easy

have to do together it’s not an easy

have to do together it’s not an easy thing no right so take a look at this

thing no right so take a look at this

thing no right so take a look at this t-minus four minutes we reached a

t-minus four minutes we reached a

t-minus four minutes we reached a tipping point

tipping point

tipping point thousands of years from now whatever we

thousands of years from now whatever we

thousands of years from now whatever we become whoever we are will look back at

become whoever we are will look back at

become whoever we are will look back at these next few decades is the moment in

these next few decades is the moment in

these next few decades is the moment in time that we are moving off this planet

time that we are moving off this planet

time that we are moving off this planet as a multiplanetary species b c and d c

as a multiplanetary species b c and d c

as a multiplanetary species b c and d c verify f 9 at Dragonheart startup f 9

verify f 9 at Dragonheart startup f 9

verify f 9 at Dragonheart startup f 9 isn’t start-up and SpaceX stands as

isn’t start-up and SpaceX stands as

isn’t start-up and SpaceX stands as nothing less than a massive game-changer

nothing less than a massive game-changer

nothing less than a massive game-changer stage 1 stage 2 pressing for flight

stage 1 stage 2 pressing for flight

stage 1 stage 2 pressing for flight Elon Musk says the only reason that I

Elon Musk says the only reason that I

Elon Musk says the only reason that I founded this company is to get human

founded this company is to get human

founded this company is to get human beings to Mars lc/ld go for lunch the

beings to Mars lc/ld go for lunch the

beings to Mars lc/ld go for lunch the key to making Mars economical is the

key to making Mars economical is the

key to making Mars economical is the reusability

reusability

reusability of rockets t-minus one minute I just

of rockets t-minus one minute I just

of rockets t-minus one minute I just don’t think there’s any way to have a

don’t think there’s any way to have a

don’t think there’s any way to have a self-sustaining Mars space without

self-sustaining Mars space without

self-sustaining Mars space without reusability getting the cost down is

reusability getting the cost down is

reusability getting the cost down is really fundamental

really fundamental

really fundamental if wooden sailing ships in the old days

if wooden sailing ships in the old days

if wooden sailing ships in the old days we’re not reusable I don’t think the

we’re not reusable I don’t think the

we’re not reusable I don’t think the United States would exist t-minus 30

United States would exist t-minus 30

United States would exist t-minus 30 seconds and if they nail this ability to

seconds and if they nail this ability to

seconds and if they nail this ability to land a rocket any way they want on earth

land a rocket any way they want on earth

land a rocket any way they want on earth then they can nail doing it on Mars 2015

then they can nail doing it on Mars 2015

then they can nail doing it on Mars 2015 this was a huge deal we haven’t yet

this was a huge deal we haven’t yet

this was a huge deal we haven’t yet landed the rocket so this is gonna be

landed the rocket so this is gonna be

landed the rocket so this is gonna be hopefully after a successful landing –

hopefully after a successful landing –

hopefully after a successful landing – 10 9 8 7 6 5

10 9 8 7 6 5

10 9 8 7 6 5 three two one

vehicles reach maximum aerodynamic

vehicles reach maximum aerodynamic pressure stable propulsion is still not

pressure stable propulsion is still not

pressure stable propulsion is still not altitude 32 kilometers speed one

altitude 32 kilometers speed one

altitude 32 kilometers speed one kilometer per second average distance 30

kilometer per second average distance 30

kilometer per second average distance 30 kilometers

space is defined by the strange

space is defined by the strange relationship between failure risk and

relationship between failure risk and

relationship between failure risk and innovation which is you can take risks

innovation which is you can take risks

innovation which is you can take risks you can try something very innovative

you can try something very innovative

you can try something very innovative but you are more likely to fail so what

but you are more likely to fail so what

but you are more likely to fail so what was it supposed to look like well you’d

was it supposed to look like well you’d

was it supposed to look like well you’d have the booster going up what I’m

have the booster going up what I’m

have the booster going up what I’m showing you here is going to be a

showing you here is going to be a

showing you here is going to be a composite a long exposure photograph

composite a long exposure photograph

composite a long exposure photograph what it’s supposed to have looked like

what it’s supposed to have looked like

what it’s supposed to have looked like and then the booster coming back down

and then the booster coming back down

and then the booster coming back down and what you see on your right-hand side

and what you see on your right-hand side

and what you see on your right-hand side of the screen is the booster that came

of the screen is the booster that came

of the screen is the booster that came down back onto the launch pad and what I

down back onto the launch pad and what I

down back onto the launch pad and what I want to know to diet is why is it so

want to know to diet is why is it so

want to know to diet is why is it so important to have reusability when when

important to have reusability when when

important to have reusability when when we’re talking I’m talking about Mars

we’re talking I’m talking about Mars

we’re talking I’m talking about Mars going to Mars why is that so important

going to Mars why is that so important

going to Mars why is that so important yeah over the long term the hope is that

yeah over the long term the hope is that

yeah over the long term the hope is that if you can reuse something it’s cheaper

if you can reuse something it’s cheaper

if you can reuse something it’s cheaper right you want to be cheaper and more

right you want to be cheaper and more

right you want to be cheaper and more efficient it’s sort of your your

efficient it’s sort of your your

efficient it’s sort of your your workhorse that you just continue to use

workhorse that you just continue to use

workhorse that you just continue to use it’s not always the case that things are

it’s not always the case that things are

it’s not always the case that things are cheaper when you reuse them but but you

cheaper when you reuse them but but you

cheaper when you reuse them but but you want something that you can you know use

want something that you can you know use

want something that you can you know use rinse recycle reuse right that’s rinse

rinse recycle reuse right that’s rinse

rinse recycle reuse right that’s rinse repeat that’s what you want the other

repeat that’s what you want the other

repeat that’s what you want the other thing is you want to be able to use that

thing is you want to be able to use that

thing is you want to be able to use that piece of technology as scaffolding for

piece of technology as scaffolding for

piece of technology as scaffolding for the next thing you do maybe you you know

the next thing you do maybe you you know

the next thing you do maybe you you know a piece of your booster to build the

a piece of your booster to build the

a piece of your booster to build the first structure right maybe you recycle

first structure right maybe you recycle

first structure right maybe you recycle it in that way so you hope first that

it in that way so you hope first that

it in that way so you hope first that there’s a cost savings you hope that

there’s a cost savings you hope that

there’s a cost savings you hope that there’s a sort of efficiency that you

there’s a sort of efficiency that you

there’s a sort of efficiency that you can build in and third that you can use

can build in and third that you can use

can build in and third that you can use it as a scaffolding for the next thing

it as a scaffolding for the next thing

it as a scaffolding for the next thing let’s look at the the idea of the

let’s look at the the idea of the

let’s look at the the idea of the timeline what is it like it seven months

timeline what is it like it seven months

timeline what is it like it seven months to get there all right just to get there

to get there all right just to get there

to get there all right just to get there so we need to right now start building

so we need to right now start building

so we need to right now start building up on that and one of the most recent

up on that and one of the most recent

up on that and one of the most recent attempts at that is the year-long

attempts at that is the year-long

attempts at that is the year-long mission that both the US and Russians

mission that both the US and Russians

mission that both the US and Russians took pardon u.s. astronaut scott kelly

took pardon u.s. astronaut scott kelly

took pardon u.s. astronaut scott kelly you can see here in this image spent a

you can see here in this image spent a

you can see here in this image spent a whole year coming back in March

whole year coming back in March

whole year coming back in March exploring this whole concept of what

exploring this whole concept of what

exploring this whole concept of what happens to human body

happens to human body

happens to human body being exposed to microgravity for long

being exposed to microgravity for long

being exposed to microgravity for long duration so we’re starting to work on

duration so we’re starting to work on

duration so we’re starting to work on that those aspects and I’d like to know

that those aspects and I’d like to know

that those aspects and I’d like to know I mean what toll does it take on the

I mean what toll does it take on the

I mean what toll does it take on the human body what the space travel

human body what the space travel

human body what the space travel long-term spacer do to a human body the

long-term spacer do to a human body the

long-term spacer do to a human body the truth is we don’t really know right

truth is we don’t really know right

truth is we don’t really know right we’ve never done this before

we’ve never done this before

we’ve never done this before commander Scott Kelly and his colleagues

commander Scott Kelly and his colleagues

commander Scott Kelly and his colleagues were sort of the first to stay in space

were sort of the first to stay in space

were sort of the first to stay in space as long as they did and even there they

as long as they did and even there they

as long as they did and even there they had a lot more protection from Earth

had a lot more protection from Earth

had a lot more protection from Earth from the sort of microgravity also we

from the sort of microgravity also we

from the sort of microgravity also we were still in the magnetosphere so they

were still in the magnetosphere so they

were still in the magnetosphere so they had protection from radiation still more

had protection from radiation still more

had protection from radiation still more radiation than they have if they were

radiation than they have if they were

radiation than they have if they were where we are but we don’t know what’s

where we are but we don’t know what’s

where we are but we don’t know what’s going to happen when you put a person in

going to happen when you put a person in

going to happen when you put a person in sort of interstellar trap interplanetary

sort of interstellar trap interplanetary

sort of interstellar trap interplanetary travel for seven months we don’t know we

travel for seven months we don’t know we

travel for seven months we don’t know we know already that you lose bone mass we

know already that you lose bone mass we

know already that you lose bone mass we know that you’ve got these radiation

know that you’ve got these radiation

know that you’ve got these radiation effects we have no idea about the

effects we have no idea about the

effects we have no idea about the psychological impact so these are all

psychological impact so these are all

psychological impact so these are all things that we’re still trying to

things that we’re still trying to

things that we’re still trying to understand and his mission their mission

understand and his mission their mission

understand and his mission their mission was Critias critical to understanding

was Critias critical to understanding

was Critias critical to understanding least you know step one in the process

least you know step one in the process

least you know step one in the process so there’s there’s a lot to be to be

so there’s there’s a lot to be to be

so there’s there’s a lot to be to be understood when we get there I like to

understood when we get there I like to

understood when we get there I like to know like how are we going to choose the

know like how are we going to choose the

know like how are we going to choose the the landing sites now what I’ve got here

the landing sites now what I’ve got here

the landing sites now what I’ve got here for you is the map of Mars and these are

for you is the map of Mars and these are

for you is the map of Mars and these are potential landing sites that we have

potential landing sites that we have

potential landing sites that we have what goes in ray maybe you can speak to

what goes in ray maybe you can speak to

what goes in ray maybe you can speak to this about you know their their

this about you know their their

this about you know their their engineering aspects their our science

engineering aspects their our science

engineering aspects their our science aspect you want to go to a place that’s

aspect you want to go to a place that’s

aspect you want to go to a place that’s scientifically interesting could be

scientifically interesting could be

scientifically interesting could be layered deposits that represent kind of

layered deposits that represent kind of

layered deposits that represent kind of ancient riverbeds or lakes it could be

ancient riverbeds or lakes it could be

ancient riverbeds or lakes it could be ancient hydrothermal deposits from

ancient hydrothermal deposits from

ancient hydrothermal deposits from volcanoes or whatever it turns out to be

volcanoes or whatever it turns out to be

volcanoes or whatever it turns out to be but you also need to land in a place

but you also need to land in a place

but you also need to land in a place that you can get back out of and that’s

that you can get back out of and that’s

that you can get back out of and that’s the plus or minus 50 it’s relatively

the plus or minus 50 it’s relatively

the plus or minus 50 it’s relatively easy to go back into orbit and not too

easy to go back into orbit and not too

easy to go back into orbit and not too cold as Mars is cold to begin with it’s

cold as Mars is cold to begin with it’s

cold as Mars is cold to begin with it’s way below freezing on average and if you

way below freezing on average and if you

way below freezing on average and if you go to the high latitudes it’s super cold

go to the high latitudes it’s super cold

go to the high latitudes it’s super cold you know the ultimate goal is to send

you know the ultimate goal is to send

you know the ultimate goal is to send humans so what I like to know is what

humans so what I like to know is what

humans so what I like to know is what you guys think in terms of the

you guys think in terms of the

you guys think in terms of the specialties what kind of people should

specialties what kind of people should

specialties what kind of people should we be sending to Mars it’s an important

we be sending to Mars it’s an important

we be sending to Mars it’s an important point to recognize that going to Mars is

point to recognize that going to Mars is

point to recognize that going to Mars is going to be you know what they call

going to be you know what they call

going to be you know what they call socio technological right it is not just

socio technological right it is not just

socio technological right it is not just maybe the technical that takes us there

maybe the technical that takes us there

maybe the technical that takes us there it’s not just going to be the

it’s not just going to be the

it’s not just going to be the sociological or the psychological it is

sociological or the psychological it is

sociological or the psychological it is going to be the interaction of those two

going to be the interaction of those two

going to be the interaction of those two things that the optimization of those

things that the optimization of those

things that the optimization of those two things that makes it happen so yeah

two things that makes it happen so yeah

two things that makes it happen so yeah you want people that have skills there

you want people that have skills there

you want people that have skills there are technical you want them to be able

are technical you want them to be able

are technical you want them to be able to fix things and create experiments

to fix things and create experiments

to fix things and create experiments physicians you need someone there in

physicians you need someone there in

physicians you need someone there in case you have medical emergencies but

case you have medical emergencies but

case you have medical emergencies but you also want the kind of mental stamina

you also want the kind of mental stamina

you also want the kind of mental stamina to be able to deal with all of the

to be able to deal with all of the

to be able to deal with all of the conditions that you’re going to you’re

conditions that you’re going to you’re

conditions that you’re going to you’re going to be sort of faced with so you

going to be sort of faced with so you

going to be sort of faced with so you know as I look at it I think about not

know as I look at it I think about not

know as I look at it I think about not just your skills in terms of what you’ve

just your skills in terms of what you’ve

just your skills in terms of what you’ve been educated to do I think of a variety

been educated to do I think of a variety

been educated to do I think of a variety of perspectives of life experiences of

of perspectives of life experiences of

of perspectives of life experiences of outlooks on life because all of those

outlooks on life because all of those

outlooks on life because all of those things are going to be necessary to make

things are going to be necessary to make

things are going to be necessary to make this work so need an inclusive

this work so need an inclusive

this work so need an inclusive environment and an inclusive set of

environment and an inclusive set of

environment and an inclusive set of people I guess growing food is going to

people I guess growing food is going to

people I guess growing food is going to be important isn’t that to diet yeah so

be important isn’t that to diet yeah so

be important isn’t that to diet yeah so this idea of being able to reuse and

this idea of being able to reuse and

this idea of being able to reuse and create a sense of self sufficiency right

create a sense of self sufficiency right

create a sense of self sufficiency right we cannot haul all the food will ever

we cannot haul all the food will ever

we cannot haul all the food will ever eat to Mars if we go if we stay all of

eat to Mars if we go if we stay all of

eat to Mars if we go if we stay all of these questions right you just can’t

these questions right you just can’t

these questions right you just can’t bring it you’ve got to create self

bring it you’ve got to create self

bring it you’ve got to create self sufficiency and food security there

sufficiency and food security there

sufficiency and food security there right so the idea is is that you you

right so the idea is is that you you

right so the idea is is that you you want to figure out ways to grow things

want to figure out ways to grow things

want to figure out ways to grow things on Mars and not just for food which is

on Mars and not just for food which is

on Mars and not just for food which is going to be important but again towards

going to be important but again towards

going to be important but again towards that social component you’ll want

that social component you’ll want

that social component you’ll want something to do that brings you closer

something to do that brings you closer

something to do that brings you closer to nature right we’ve seen Mars is an

to nature right we’ve seen Mars is an

to nature right we’ve seen Mars is an arid place it’s there’s not much

arid place it’s there’s not much

arid place it’s there’s not much happening there as we can see so far so

happening there as we can see so far so

happening there as we can see so far so you want some green you’ll want to get

you want some green you’ll want to get

you want some green you’ll want to get your hands in the dirt you’ll want to

your hands in the dirt you’ll want to

your hands in the dirt you’ll want to grow something see it progress over time

grow something see it progress over time

grow something see it progress over time so there’s that mental sort of

so there’s that mental sort of

so there’s that mental sort of restorative peace of going and being out

restorative peace of going and being out

restorative peace of going and being out in nature even on Mars I mean that’s

in nature even on Mars I mean that’s

in nature even on Mars I mean that’s interesting but you know when we’re

interesting but you know when we’re

interesting but you know when we’re talking about going to Mars to me this

talking about going to Mars to me this

talking about going to Mars to me this looks like a candy wrapper I don’t know

looks like a candy wrapper I don’t know

looks like a candy wrapper I don’t know but there’s like trash on Mars right now

but there’s like trash on Mars right now

but there’s like trash on Mars right now already right this time I mean we’re

already right this time I mean we’re

already right this time I mean we’re already used to peace probably a piece

already used to peace probably a piece

already used to peace probably a piece of the sky cream right we’re not but

of the sky cream right we’re not but

of the sky cream right we’re not but we’re not we’re not living there humans

we’re not we’re not living there humans

we’re not we’re not living there humans aren’t there yet we’re sending our stuff

aren’t there yet we’re sending our stuff

aren’t there yet we’re sending our stuff there and then

there and then

there and then we’re already you know altering Mars

we’re already you know altering Mars

we’re already you know altering Mars right there’s all the alterations of

right there’s all the alterations of

right there’s all the alterations of Mars and there’s talk about you know how

Mars and there’s talk about you know how

Mars and there’s talk about you know how humans will be altered by Mars as well

humans will be altered by Mars as well

humans will be altered by Mars as well there’s a lot of talk about that and I

there’s a lot of talk about that and I

there’s a lot of talk about that and I want you guys to check this little video

want you guys to check this little video

want you guys to check this little video out this whole idea of altering Mars and

out this whole idea of altering Mars and

out this whole idea of altering Mars and stuff it’s really fascinating

terraforming Mars is not a small jar

terraforming Mars is not a small jar this is a massive project this is a

this is a massive project this is a

this is a massive project this is a bigger project than anything humanity

bigger project than anything humanity

bigger project than anything humanity has ever attempted terraforming is

has ever attempted terraforming is

has ever attempted terraforming is taking an environment such as Mars and

taking an environment such as Mars and

taking an environment such as Mars and making it more earth-like terraforming

making it more earth-like terraforming

making it more earth-like terraforming is like like super science fictiony

is like like super science fictiony

is like like super science fictiony right now I don’t think people

right now I don’t think people

right now I don’t think people understand how big planets are so

understand how big planets are so

understand how big planets are so terraforming one is a ludicrous to ask

terraforming one is a ludicrous to ask

terraforming one is a ludicrous to ask you solve all the problems except

you solve all the problems except

you solve all the problems except breathing so once Mars is terraformed it

breathing so once Mars is terraformed it

breathing so once Mars is terraformed it made more earth-like you’re still going

made more earth-like you’re still going

made more earth-like you’re still going to have to wear a helmet on your head of

to have to wear a helmet on your head of

to have to wear a helmet on your head of some sort or some kind of breathing

some sort or some kind of breathing

some sort or some kind of breathing apparatus might we have the urge to

apparatus might we have the urge to

apparatus might we have the urge to tinker with our DNA such that you don’t

tinker with our DNA such that you don’t

tinker with our DNA such that you don’t need a spacesuit on Mars

need a spacesuit on Mars

need a spacesuit on Mars we’re on the edge right now of being

we’re on the edge right now of being

we’re on the edge right now of being able to change our own genome and our

able to change our own genome and our

able to change our own genome and our own genetics in our own bodies in real

own genetics in our own bodies in real

own genetics in our own bodies in real time our ability to control DNA the

time our ability to control DNA the

time our ability to control DNA the programming language of life helps us

programming language of life helps us

programming language of life helps us open up Mars what happens if there is a

open up Mars what happens if there is a

open up Mars what happens if there is a virus that bribes some kind of a flu and

virus that bribes some kind of a flu and

virus that bribes some kind of a flu and knocks out a large population or a large

knocks out a large population or a large

knocks out a large population or a large percentage of your group you can

percentage of your group you can

percentage of your group you can actually sequence the virus send it back

actually sequence the virus send it back

actually sequence the virus send it back to earth to analyze and you can send

to earth to analyze and you can send

to earth to analyze and you can send back from Earth you know a upgraded

back from Earth you know a upgraded

back from Earth you know a upgraded t-cell if you do interfere with our

t-cell if you do interfere with our

t-cell if you do interfere with our genomes so that you can survive on Mars

genomes so that you can survive on Mars

genomes so that you can survive on Mars you’re pretty much going through a

you’re pretty much going through a

you’re pretty much going through a one-way door and saying I will never go

one-way door and saying I will never go

one-way door and saying I will never go back to earth

back to earth

back to earth we might very well have a future in

we might very well have a future in

we might very well have a future in which you have different kinds of humans

which you have different kinds of humans

which you have different kinds of humans that look very different from each other

that look very different from each other

that look very different from each other once we get computers that are like

once we get computers that are like

once we get computers that are like smarter than humans and thinking about

smarter than humans and thinking about

smarter than humans and thinking about stuff and coming up with stuff we can

stuff and coming up with stuff we can

stuff and coming up with stuff we can ask them to figure out how to cure

ask them to figure out how to cure

ask them to figure out how to cure viruses we can kind of tell them look we

viruses we can kind of tell them look we

viruses we can kind of tell them look we want to explore and this is what we

want to explore and this is what we

want to explore and this is what we would like to do and then the robot

would like to do and then the robot

would like to do and then the robot scisors or overs or the helicopters or

scisors or overs or the helicopters or

scisors or overs or the helicopters or the balloons can make their own judgment

the balloons can make their own judgment

the balloons can make their own judgment and actually do the exploration so

and actually do the exploration so

and actually do the exploration so ultimately we’re going to need things

ultimately we’re going to need things

ultimately we’re going to need things like machines that can make machines if

like machines that can make machines if

like machines that can make machines if we want to have a solar system

we want to have a solar system

we want to have a solar system civilization well future technologies

civilization well future technologies

civilization well future technologies that we’re developing on earth now like

that we’re developing on earth now like

that we’re developing on earth now like 3d printing and electric cars can

3d printing and electric cars can

3d printing and electric cars can actually be extremely useful to us in

actually be extremely useful to us in

actually be extremely useful to us in creating a outpost of civilization on

creating a outpost of civilization on

creating a outpost of civilization on Mars imagine being able to send a 3d

Mars imagine being able to send a 3d

Mars imagine being able to send a 3d prayer of the Martian surface that sort

prayer of the Martian surface that sort

prayer of the Martian surface that sort of pulls the soil out add some water add

of pulls the soil out add some water add

of pulls the soil out add some water add some binder and is sitting there 3d

some binder and is sitting there 3d

some binder and is sitting there 3d printing shelters in advance of a

printing shelters in advance of a

printing shelters in advance of a community coming and you’ve got your

community coming and you’ve got your

community coming and you’ve got your homes pre-built

homes pre-built

homes pre-built waiting for you right there so to died

waiting for you right there so to died

waiting for you right there so to died up this is all nice but what happens if

up this is all nice but what happens if

up this is all nice but what happens if we find life on Mars with our plans to

we find life on Mars with our plans to

we find life on Mars with our plans to be altered I think they should be right

be altered I think they should be right

be altered I think they should be right because now we’ve got to understand and

because now we’ve got to understand and

because now we’ve got to understand and figure out what’s happening

figure out what’s happening

figure out what’s happening try not to completely decimate their way

try not to completely decimate their way

try not to completely decimate their way of being in life in terms of probably

of being in life in terms of probably

of being in life in terms of probably microbial structures and such also just

microbial structures and such also just

microbial structures and such also just small tidbit no terraforming why is that

small tidbit no terraforming why is that

small tidbit no terraforming why is that it’s a stupid idea

okay-y it’s out of equilibrium

okay-y it’s out of equilibrium I mean Mars is cold and dry today for a

I mean Mars is cold and dry today for a

I mean Mars is cold and dry today for a reason early in geologic time there were

reason early in geologic time there were

reason early in geologic time there were volcanoes there was a massive amount of

volcanoes there was a massive amount of

volcanoes there was a massive amount of greenhouse warming from the gases coming

greenhouse warming from the gases coming

greenhouse warming from the gases coming up because it’s a small planet relative

up because it’s a small planet relative

up because it’s a small planet relative to earth it stopped its internal

to earth it stopped its internal

to earth it stopped its internal activity sooner than the earth so the

activity sooner than the earth so the

activity sooner than the earth so the gases in the atmosphere were on a

gases in the atmosphere were on a

gases in the atmosphere were on a one-way trip to be oxidized and placed

one-way trip to be oxidized and placed

one-way trip to be oxidized and placed into minerals so if you increase the

into minerals so if you increase the

into minerals so if you increase the amount of sunlight with mirrors or

amount of sunlight with mirrors or

amount of sunlight with mirrors or whatever you can sublimate get more

whatever you can sublimate get more

whatever you can sublimate get more water vapour in the atmosphere more rain

water vapour in the atmosphere more rain

water vapour in the atmosphere more rain but what’s going to happen it’s going to

but what’s going to happen it’s going to

but what’s going to happen it’s going to react with the rocks and go back down

react with the rocks and go back down

react with the rocks and go back down into the into the subsurface eventually

into the into the subsurface eventually

into the into the subsurface eventually there’s a famous reaction that was

there’s a famous reaction that was

there’s a famous reaction that was codified by Harold Urey it’s a very

codified by Harold Urey it’s a very

codified by Harold Urey it’s a very distinguished Nobel what Nobel

distinguished Nobel what Nobel

distinguished Nobel what Nobel prize-winning chemist and it’s the way

prize-winning chemist and it’s the way

prize-winning chemist and it’s the way the earth stays more or less the way we

the earth stays more or less the way we

the earth stays more or less the way we like it sometimes it goes into the deep

like it sometimes it goes into the deep

like it sometimes it goes into the deep freeze sometimes it’s really warm but

freeze sometimes it’s really warm but

freeze sometimes it’s really warm but what happens is the volcanoes pump up

what happens is the volcanoes pump up

what happens is the volcanoes pump up the gases that keep us warm but the

the gases that keep us warm but the

the gases that keep us warm but the hydrologic cycle consumes those gases as

hydrologic cycle consumes those gases as

hydrologic cycle consumes those gases as carbonic acid co2 goes into the water

carbonic acid co2 goes into the water

carbonic acid co2 goes into the water and it reacts in forms lime stones but

and it reacts in forms lime stones but

and it reacts in forms lime stones but the lime stones go back downstairs get

the lime stones go back downstairs get

the lime stones go back downstairs get decomposed and the gases come back up

decomposed and the gases come back up

decomposed and the gases come back up you know as greenhouse gases through

you know as greenhouse gases through

you know as greenhouse gases through volcanoes if you stop the internal

volcanoes if you stop the internal

volcanoes if you stop the internal engine you go in the one way deep freeze

engine you go in the one way deep freeze

engine you go in the one way deep freeze it’s what happened to Mars because it’s

it’s what happened to Mars because it’s

it’s what happened to Mars because it’s smaller than the earth so terraforming

smaller than the earth so terraforming

smaller than the earth so terraforming can increase the temperature of the

can increase the temperature of the

can increase the temperature of the surface but you can get some gas out but

surface but you can get some gas out but

surface but you can get some gas out but it will eventually get corroded and put

it will eventually get corroded and put

it will eventually get corroded and put back down into the subsurface in a

back down into the subsurface in a

back down into the subsurface in a one-way trip so it may work for a couple

one-way trip so it may work for a couple

one-way trip so it may work for a couple decades but over longer time it’s bogus

decades but over longer time it’s bogus

decades but over longer time it’s bogus in my opinion

in my opinion

in my opinion and also would decimate whatever is

and also would decimate whatever is

and also would decimate whatever is there that we don’t know yet yeah

there that we don’t know yet yeah

there that we don’t know yet yeah there’s a very important paradigm that

there’s a very important paradigm that

there’s a very important paradigm that all the nations are following called

all the nations are following called

all the nations are following called planetary protection so you sterilize

planetary protection so you sterilize

planetary protection so you sterilize spacecraft before they’re on the surface

spacecraft before they’re on the surface

spacecraft before they’re on the surface because the worst thing to have happen

because the worst thing to have happen

because the worst thing to have happen is to go to Mars in the future and find

is to go to Mars in the future and find

is to go to Mars in the future and find ourselves alright I have a question one

ourselves alright I have a question one

ourselves alright I have a question one last question if you could take anything

last question if you could take anything

last question if you could take anything from or any physical object in there

from or any physical object in there

from or any physical object in there what would it be any ticket to Mars but

what would it be any ticket to Mars but

what would it be any ticket to Mars but you want to take something what would

you want to take something what would

you want to take something what would what one thing going on by 47th wedding

what one thing going on by 47th wedding

what one thing going on by 47th wedding anniversary and I really like my wife so

anniversary and I really like my wife so

anniversary and I really like my wife so she would go with me you get points

she would go with me you get points

she would go with me you get points there places as videos is this being

there places as videos is this being

there places as videos is this being taped

there are many reasons that we want to

there are many reasons that we want to go to Mars the first big one is why did

go to Mars the first big one is why did

go to Mars the first big one is why did Mars transition from what was once a

Mars transition from what was once a

Mars transition from what was once a warmer wetter world to the cold dry

warmer wetter world to the cold dry

warmer wetter world to the cold dry planet we see today

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