hi I’m Philip and I’m a recovering engineer so when I heard a colleague use
engineer so when I heard a colleague use
engineer so when I heard a colleague use that introduction at a conference for
that introduction at a conference for
that introduction at a conference for the first time I thought to myself huh
the first time I thought to myself huh
the first time I thought to myself huh that’s interesting but as I was
that’s interesting but as I was
that’s interesting but as I was listening to her talk about her
listening to her talk about her
listening to her talk about her engineering journey and the kind of
engineering journey and the kind of
engineering journey and the kind of things that she had experienced I was
things that she had experienced I was
things that she had experienced I was thinking well maybe I am a recovering
thinking well maybe I am a recovering
thinking well maybe I am a recovering engineer too so here I am today still
engineer too so here I am today still
engineer too so here I am today still recovering but I’m fine I’m good so like
recovering but I’m fine I’m good so like
recovering but I’m fine I’m good so like John mentioned I am a professor and one
John mentioned I am a professor and one
John mentioned I am a professor and one of the things that I like to do as a
of the things that I like to do as a
of the things that I like to do as a professor is ask some questions and so
professor is ask some questions and so
professor is ask some questions and so as I’m going through my talk I would
as I’m going through my talk I would
as I’m going through my talk I would like to ask you awesome questions and I
like to ask you awesome questions and I
like to ask you awesome questions and I hope that you all will work with me I
hope that you all will work with me I
hope that you all will work with me I really do want to hear your answers and
really do want to hear your answers and
really do want to hear your answers and what you have to say so the first
what you have to say so the first
what you have to say so the first question is a show of hands question how
question is a show of hands question how
question is a show of hands question how many people in the room are engineers or
many people in the room are engineers or
many people in the room are engineers or consider themselves engineers okay you
consider themselves engineers okay you
consider themselves engineers okay you have some folks great cool
have some folks great cool
have some folks great cool waving yeah hey how you doing um how
waving yeah hey how you doing um how
waving yeah hey how you doing um how many people are not engineers in the
many people are not engineers in the
many people are not engineers in the room
room
room okay how many of you know an engineer
okay how many of you know an engineer
okay how many of you know an engineer okay most of you any recovering
okay most of you any recovering
okay most of you any recovering engineers in the room one great this is
engineers in the room one great this is
engineers in the room one great this is good
good
good the next question I’d like to ask I will
the next question I’d like to ask I will
the next question I’d like to ask I will mostly directed those in the front so I
mostly directed those in the front so I
mostly directed those in the front so I can hear your answer so just shout them
can hear your answer so just shout them
can hear your answer so just shout them out and that for the rest of you just
out and that for the rest of you just
out and that for the rest of you just think about what your answers would be
think about what your answers would be
think about what your answers would be so I want to know what comes to your
so I want to know what comes to your
so I want to know what comes to your mind when I say the word engineering
mind when I say the word engineering
mind when I say the word engineering threw out some answers building ok sorry
threw out some answers building ok sorry
threw out some answers building ok sorry tagging manufacturing no sleep okay
tagging manufacturing no sleep okay
tagging manufacturing no sleep okay muddy ok great
muddy ok great
muddy ok great that’s a good one sorry second crazy ok
that’s a good one sorry second crazy ok
that’s a good one sorry second crazy ok creating ok great cool so I like to ask
creating ok great cool so I like to ask
creating ok great cool so I like to ask this question to Locke I think with
this question to Locke I think with
this question to Locke I think with questions like this is you just never
questions like this is you just never
questions like this is you just never know the kind of answers that you’re
know the kind of answers that you’re
know the kind of answers that you’re going to get and usually I get answers
going to get and usually I get answers
going to get and usually I get answers like buildings and infrastructure
like buildings and infrastructure
like buildings and infrastructure technology that John talked about
technology that John talked about
technology that John talked about earlier cellphones electronics cars
earlier cellphones electronics cars
earlier cellphones electronics cars those kinds of things and every now and
those kinds of things and every now and
those kinds of things and every now and then I do hear about crazy and how hard
then I do hear about crazy and how hard
then I do hear about crazy and how hard it is and students who are stressing out
it is and students who are stressing out
it is and students who are stressing out pulling out their hair now one of the
pulling out their hair now one of the
pulling out their hair now one of the things that did not come up which I do
things that did not come up which I do
things that did not come up which I do hear a lot too is the thing that tends
hear a lot too is the thing that tends
hear a lot too is the thing that tends to scare some people away from
to scare some people away from
to scare some people away from engineering math right the numbers the
engineering math right the numbers the
engineering math right the numbers the symbols the letters that are equal to
symbols the letters that are equal to
symbols the letters that are equal to other letters that no one seems to
other letters that no one seems to
other letters that no one seems to understand and I’ll get back to these
understand and I’ll get back to these
understand and I’ll get back to these later so there was a time when I also
later so there was a time when I also
later so there was a time when I also used to think about things that way when
used to think about things that way when
used to think about things that way when I hear engineering I think about the
I hear engineering I think about the
I hear engineering I think about the products and the things that we develop
products and the things that we develop
products and the things that we develop but these days when I think about
but these days when I think about
but these days when I think about engineering one of the first things that
engineering one of the first things that
engineering one of the first things that comes to mind is images like this a
comes to mind is images like this a
comes to mind is images like this a person so that image is of a man named
person so that image is of a man named
person so that image is of a man named Andrew Viterbi and my relationship with
Andrew Viterbi and my relationship with
Andrew Viterbi and my relationship with Viterbi I don’t know the guy is similar
Viterbi I don’t know the guy is similar
Viterbi I don’t know the guy is similar to my relationship with engineering I
to my relationship with engineering I
to my relationship with engineering I had heard about the things that he had
had heard about the things that he had
had heard about the things that he had developed before I knew who he was
developed before I knew who he was
developed before I knew who he was so Viterbi is known for a thing that is
so Viterbi is known for a thing that is
so Viterbi is known for a thing that is called of all things the Viterbi
called of all things the Viterbi
called of all things the Viterbi algorithm and what it does is it allows
algorithm and what it does is it allows
algorithm and what it does is it allows communication systems like your cell
communication systems like your cell
communication systems like your cell phone to figure out what it is that the
phone to figure out what it is that the
phone to figure out what it is that the sender like your cell tower was telling
sender like your cell tower was telling
sender like your cell tower was telling it when to send the message because
it when to send the message because
it when to send the message because whenever you send a message over the air
whenever you send a message over the air
whenever you send a message over the air over a wire bad things can happen the
over a wire bad things can happen the
over a wire bad things can happen the message gets jumbled and it’s the job of
message gets jumbled and it’s the job of
message gets jumbled and it’s the job of the receiver to figure out what was the
the receiver to figure out what was the
the receiver to figure out what was the original message that was sent a couple
original message that was sent a couple
original message that was sent a couple of years ago I read the story of Viterbi
of years ago I read the story of Viterbi
of years ago I read the story of Viterbi and why the algorithm and and developed
and why the algorithm and and developed
and why the algorithm and and developed those things and the story is one of
those things and the story is one of
those things and the story is one of those interesting stories were he just
those interesting stories were he just
those interesting stories were he just wasn’t he wasn’t trying to invent the
wasn’t he wasn’t trying to invent the
wasn’t he wasn’t trying to invent the thing he just sort of came across it
thing he just sort of came across it
thing he just sort of came across it while trying to do something else
while trying to do something else
while trying to do something else so Viterbi was a professor of Electrical
so Viterbi was a professor of Electrical
so Viterbi was a professor of Electrical Engineering like myself at UCLA and one
Engineering like myself at UCLA and one
Engineering like myself at UCLA and one of the things that he was tasked with
of the things that he was tasked with
of the things that he was tasked with was teaching the communication theory
was teaching the communication theory
was teaching the communication theory class and it’d been a couple of years
class and it’d been a couple of years
class and it’d been a couple of years and every year he tries to do this and
and every year he tries to do this and
and every year he tries to do this and he realized the students just weren’t
he realized the students just weren’t
he realized the students just weren’t getting it something was wrong the ideas
getting it something was wrong the ideas
getting it something was wrong the ideas weren’t just getting across and so like
weren’t just getting across and so like
weren’t just getting across and so like any good teacher he decided he was going
any good teacher he decided he was going
any good teacher he decided he was going to do something about it he was trying
to do something about it he was trying
to do something about it he was trying to figure out a way to get the student
to figure out a way to get the student
to figure out a way to get the student to understand the thing that he was
to understand the thing that he was
to understand the thing that he was trying to teach so he went back and he
trying to teach so he went back and he
trying to teach so he went back and he looked at the concepts and the ideas and
looked at the concepts and the ideas and
looked at the concepts and the ideas and what people were trying to say in terms
what people were trying to say in terms
what people were trying to say in terms of communication systems and what he
of communication systems and what he
of communication systems and what he found was that people were making the
found was that people were making the
found was that people were making the thing way more complicated than it
thing way more complicated than it
thing way more complicated than it needed to be and so he developed this
needed to be and so he developed this
needed to be and so he developed this algorithm as a way to explain to his
algorithm as a way to explain to his
algorithm as a way to explain to his students how simple communication
students how simple communication
students how simple communication systems really are and how did they work
systems really are and how did they work
systems really are and how did they work but one of the things he realized what
but one of the things he realized what
but one of the things he realized what they were also useful for real
they were also useful for real
they were also useful for real communication systems we could actually
communication systems we could actually
communication systems we could actually build things that do that and so over
build things that do that and so over
build things that do that and so over time he left his job as a professor
time he left his job as a professor
time he left his job as a professor built some companies and eventually
built some companies and eventually
built some companies and eventually co-founded a company called Qualcomm
co-founded a company called Qualcomm
co-founded a company called Qualcomm which is one of the big mobile
which is one of the big mobile
which is one of the big mobile communications companies and most of the
communications companies and most of the
communications companies and most of the cell phone technology we have uses some
cell phone technology we have uses some
cell phone technology we have uses some of the some things like the Viterbi
of the some things like the Viterbi
of the some things like the Viterbi algorithm today by the way the algorithm
algorithm today by the way the algorithm
algorithm today by the way the algorithm is also used in speech recognition
is also used in speech recognition
is also used in speech recognition systems like Syria and Alexa because all
systems like Syria and Alexa because all
systems like Syria and Alexa because all they’re trying to do is figure out what
they’re trying to do is figure out what
they’re trying to do is figure out what it is that you were trying to say to
it is that you were trying to say to
it is that you were trying to say to begin with into the microphone so that’s
begin with into the microphone so that’s
begin with into the microphone so that’s Viterbi the other image that comes to
Viterbi the other image that comes to
Viterbi the other image that comes to mind is these engineers now they may not
mind is these engineers now they may not
mind is these engineers now they may not look like engineers but they really are
look like engineers but they really are
look like engineers but they really are trust me I know these folks so the one
trust me I know these folks so the one
trust me I know these folks so the one on my right near left is my younger
on my right near left is my younger
on my right near left is my younger brother he’s actually a mechanical
brother he’s actually a mechanical
brother he’s actually a mechanical engineer he works for Toyota and the one
engineer he works for Toyota and the one
engineer he works for Toyota and the one on my left and your right is my mom she
on my left and your right is my mom she
on my left and your right is my mom she is a civil engineer and she’s the one
is a civil engineer and she’s the one
is a civil engineer and she’s the one that I’m going to talk about so what my
that I’m going to talk about so what my
that I’m going to talk about so what my mom does is she calls herself a
mom does is she calls herself a
mom does is she calls herself a transportation specialist then the thing
transportation specialist then the thing
transportation specialist then the thing that she is responsible for on
that she is responsible for on
that she is responsible for on engineering projects is figuring out
engineering projects is figuring out
engineering projects is figuring out what is going to be the effect of the
what is going to be the effect of the
what is going to be the effect of the road or the bridge or the hospital or
road or the bridge or the hospital or
road or the bridge or the hospital or the infrastructure that we’re going to
the infrastructure that we’re going to
the infrastructure that we’re going to build and what does the effect for the
build and what does the effect for the
build and what does the effect for the users and the people who are in the
users and the people who are in the
users and the people who are in the community who may not be uses of the
community who may not be uses of the
community who may not be uses of the particular technology she’s worked on
particular technology she’s worked on
particular technology she’s worked on projects like figuring out how it is
projects like figuring out how it is
projects like figuring out how it is that the borders in different West
that the borders in different West
that the borders in different West African countries are constructed and
African countries are constructed and
African countries are constructed and operated and how does that contribute to
operated and how does that contribute to
operated and how does that contribute to the prevalence of hiv/aids and made some
the prevalence of hiv/aids and made some
the prevalence of hiv/aids and made some recommendations has actually helped now
recommendations has actually helped now
recommendations has actually helped now the story I want to tell about her is
the story I want to tell about her is
the story I want to tell about her is how she got into engineering to begin
how she got into engineering to begin
how she got into engineering to begin with so
with so
with so she was a high school student at the
she was a high school student at the
she was a high school student at the time trying to figure out what she
time trying to figure out what she
time trying to figure out what she wanted to do with her life like most
wanted to do with her life like most
wanted to do with her life like most high school students have to do when
high school students have to do when
high school students have to do when high school is over and she was told
high school is over and she was told
high school is over and she was told well you’re good at math and you get it
well you’re good at math and you get it
well you’re good at math and you get it signed so maybe you should consider this
signed so maybe you should consider this
signed so maybe you should consider this thing called engineering now she says
thing called engineering now she says
thing called engineering now she says one of the things that drew her to
one of the things that drew her to
one of the things that drew her to engineering was at the time and it still
engineering was at the time and it still
engineering was at the time and it still is a very male-dominated field so she
is a very male-dominated field so she
is a very male-dominated field so she was about the only lady in her class for
was about the only lady in her class for
was about the only lady in her class for about a hundred people one of the things
about a hundred people one of the things
about a hundred people one of the things that she was curious about was what is
that she was curious about was what is
that she was curious about was what is this thing called engineering that all
this thing called engineering that all
this thing called engineering that all the guys are excited about that ladies
the guys are excited about that ladies
the guys are excited about that ladies are missing out on the other thing that
are missing out on the other thing that
are missing out on the other thing that was interesting to her was that she
was interesting to her was that she
was interesting to her was that she heard that engineering had something to
heard that engineering had something to
heard that engineering had something to do with the word design and in her mind
do with the word design and in her mind
do with the word design and in her mind she had always associated the word
she had always associated the word
she had always associated the word design with fashion and clothes and
design with fashion and clothes and
design with fashion and clothes and those kinds of things and so she wanted
those kinds of things and so she wanted
those kinds of things and so she wanted to find out what engineering was so she
to find out what engineering was so she
to find out what engineering was so she went into it she did it she came out and
went into it she did it she came out and
went into it she did it she came out and she worked with a number of companies
she worked with a number of companies
she worked with a number of companies she now does her own consulting and
she now does her own consulting and
she now does her own consulting and those the kinds of things that she works
those the kinds of things that she works
those the kinds of things that she works on now there are two takeaways from
on now there are two takeaways from
on now there are two takeaways from these stories that I’d want to highlight
these stories that I’d want to highlight
these stories that I’d want to highlight one is what I think of engineering I
one is what I think of engineering I
one is what I think of engineering I think that it’s something that people do
think that it’s something that people do
think that it’s something that people do it’s a very human thing
it’s a very human thing
it’s a very human thing now the other thing that I think about
now the other thing that I think about
now the other thing that I think about what I think engineering is why is it
what I think engineering is why is it
what I think engineering is why is it that the people do it to begin with and
that the people do it to begin with and
that the people do it to begin with and if you look at the Turbie story and you
if you look at the Turbie story and you
if you look at the Turbie story and you talk to engineers where you look at my
talk to engineers where you look at my
talk to engineers where you look at my mom stories you’d almost have to
mom stories you’d almost have to
mom stories you’d almost have to conclude that one of the things that
conclude that one of the things that
conclude that one of the things that engineering czar interested in is
engineering czar interested in is
engineering czar interested in is helping people meet some kind of a need
helping people meet some kind of a need
helping people meet some kind of a need right helping people meet some kind of a
right helping people meet some kind of a
right helping people meet some kind of a need and that’s the other point that I
need and that’s the other point that I
need and that’s the other point that I want to run with so my next question I’m
want to run with so my next question I’m
want to run with so my next question I’m going to direct to you in the front over
going to direct to you in the front over
going to direct to you in the front over here so what I want you to think about
here so what I want you to think about
here so what I want you to think about and everyone else in the room is as
and everyone else in the room is as
and everyone else in the room is as we’re starting in front of your wardrobe
we’re starting in front of your wardrobe
we’re starting in front of your wardrobe this morning and you were thinking about
this morning and you were thinking about
this morning and you were thinking about what you were going to wear what are
what you were going to wear what are
what you were going to wear what are some of the things that we’re running
some of the things that we’re running
some of the things that we’re running through your mind why did you pick the
through your mind why did you pick the
through your mind why did you pick the outfit that you pick today oh okay that
outfit that you pick today oh okay that
outfit that you pick today oh okay that was the only consideration
okay so temperature outside and fashion
okay so temperature outside and fashion great cool so most of us do this right
great cool so most of us do this right
great cool so most of us do this right so you have to wear something when you
so you have to wear something when you
so you have to wear something when you walk out right so you definitely have to
walk out right so you definitely have to
walk out right so you definitely have to pick something well you could wear
pick something well you could wear
pick something well you could wear nothing but most of us wouldn’t be
nothing but most of us wouldn’t be
nothing but most of us wouldn’t be excited about that and the other thing
excited about that and the other thing
excited about that and the other thing that you have to do is consider why
that you have to do is consider why
that you have to do is consider why you’re going to pick the clothes that
you’re going to pick the clothes that
you’re going to pick the clothes that you pick most of us don’t want to be too
you pick most of us don’t want to be too
you pick most of us don’t want to be too hot or too cold and so we consider the
hot or too cold and so we consider the
hot or too cold and so we consider the temperature outside when we’re when
temperature outside when we’re when
temperature outside when we’re when we’re picking our outfits and then you
we’re picking our outfits and then you
we’re picking our outfits and then you want to wear something that’s
want to wear something that’s
want to wear something that’s appropriate right a lot of us don’t like
appropriate right a lot of us don’t like
appropriate right a lot of us don’t like to stick out so we want to wear
to stick out so we want to wear
to stick out so we want to wear something that we’re comfortable in and
something that we’re comfortable in and
something that we’re comfortable in and something that we won’t stick out in now
something that we won’t stick out in now
something that we won’t stick out in now we all do this with a lot of different
we all do this with a lot of different
we all do this with a lot of different aspects of our life and this is one of
aspects of our life and this is one of
aspects of our life and this is one of the things that engineers do we have a
the things that engineers do we have a
the things that engineers do we have a goal and we have constraint the goal in
goal and we have constraint the goal in
goal and we have constraint the goal in this case is you have to wear something
this case is you have to wear something
this case is you have to wear something and the constraints are you don’t want
and the constraints are you don’t want
and the constraints are you don’t want to be too hot or too cold and you want
to be too hot or too cold and you want
to be too hot or too cold and you want to fit in in the particular environment
to fit in in the particular environment
to fit in in the particular environment and so for me engineering is something
and so for me engineering is something
and so for me engineering is something that we all do as a concept we all do
that we all do as a concept we all do
that we all do as a concept we all do this in different ways in our lives we
this in different ways in our lives we
this in different ways in our lives we have our goals and we have our barriers
have our goals and we have our barriers
have our goals and we have our barriers and our opportunities and we navigate
and our opportunities and we navigate
and our opportunities and we navigate life that way and so if engineering has
life that way and so if engineering has
life that way and so if engineering has a concept this is this human thing that
a concept this is this human thing that
a concept this is this human thing that I think it should be accessible to
I think it should be accessible to
I think it should be accessible to everybody it should be something that
everybody it should be something that
everybody it should be something that everybody can get involved in now one of
everybody can get involved in now one of
everybody can get involved in now one of the things I do want to touch on is the
the things I do want to touch on is the
the things I do want to touch on is the thing that I mentioned earlier the thing
thing that I mentioned earlier the thing
thing that I mentioned earlier the thing that scares people away from engineering
that scares people away from engineering
that scares people away from engineering the Mac so I want to ask two questions
the Mac so I want to ask two questions
the Mac so I want to ask two questions there so first question is to you in the
there so first question is to you in the
there so first question is to you in the front here we’ve all had the experience
front here we’ve all had the experience
front here we’ve all had the experience of doing homework or taking an exam and
of doing homework or taking an exam and
of doing homework or taking an exam and getting our grade back right so let’s
getting our grade back right so let’s
getting our grade back right so let’s say you did some homework and you got
say you did some homework and you got
say you did some homework and you got your grade back and your grade was a 9
your grade back and your grade was a 9
your grade back and your grade was a 9 out of 10 would you consider that to be
out of 10 would you consider that to be
out of 10 would you consider that to be a good grade absolutely great cool yeah
a good grade absolutely great cool yeah
a good grade absolutely great cool yeah good well live so you in the corner over
good well live so you in the corner over
good well live so you in the corner over here let’s assume you did an exam and
here let’s assume you did an exam and
here let’s assume you did an exam and you got a solid 85 out of a hundred
you got a solid 85 out of a hundred
you got a solid 85 out of a hundred would you consider that to be okay great
would you consider that to be okay great
would you consider that to be okay great okay you’d live with that
okay you’d live with that
okay you’d live with that the thing that I want you to recognize
the thing that I want you to recognize
the thing that I want you to recognize here is that the number nine and the
here is that the number nine and the
here is that the number nine and the number 85 in isolation are two very
number 85 in isolation are two very
number 85 in isolation are two very different numbers 85 is almost 10 times
different numbers 85 is almost 10 times
different numbers 85 is almost 10 times the number 9 but relative to 9 relative
the number 9 but relative to 9 relative
the number 9 but relative to 9 relative to 10 and 85 relative to 100 is
to 10 and 85 relative to 100 is
to 10 and 85 relative to 100 is something that gives us the same kind of
something that gives us the same kind of
something that gives us the same kind of feeling about the same thing now this is
feeling about the same thing now this is
feeling about the same thing now this is mostly what engineers do with the math
mostly what engineers do with the math
mostly what engineers do with the math and the numbers at the end of the day
and the numbers at the end of the day
and the numbers at the end of the day when I’m done with my calculations and I
when I’m done with my calculations and I
when I’m done with my calculations and I have all the symbols aligned and I have
have all the symbols aligned and I have
have all the symbols aligned and I have the number all I want to know is does
the number all I want to know is does
the number all I want to know is does this thing work how well does it work
this thing work how well does it work
this thing work how well does it work does it work any better than it used to
does it work any better than it used to
does it work any better than it used to what’s the room for improvement but it’s
what’s the room for improvement but it’s
what’s the room for improvement but it’s a qualitative judgment that we’re about
a qualitative judgment that we’re about
a qualitative judgment that we’re about to do at the end of the day and we all
to do at the end of the day and we all
to do at the end of the day and we all do this in our daily lives we go to the
do this in our daily lives we go to the
do this in our daily lives we go to the store and we decide on products we look
store and we decide on products we look
store and we decide on products we look at the prices and we come to some value
at the prices and we come to some value
at the prices and we come to some value judgment based on the numbers and those
judgment based on the numbers and those
judgment based on the numbers and those kinds of things and so the point here is
kinds of things and so the point here is
kinds of things and so the point here is engineering as a concept is something
engineering as a concept is something
engineering as a concept is something that we’re all familiar with but
that we’re all familiar with but
that we’re all familiar with but engineering as a profession
engineering as a profession
engineering as a profession who’s taking that concept and develop
who’s taking that concept and develop
who’s taking that concept and develop the specialized set of tools like math
the specialized set of tools like math
the specialized set of tools like math and other things for a specialized set
and other things for a specialized set
and other things for a specialized set of complex problems that we have to all
of complex problems that we have to all
of complex problems that we have to all deal with in society so the takeaway for
deal with in society so the takeaway for
deal with in society so the takeaway for me here is if it’s something that we’re
me here is if it’s something that we’re
me here is if it’s something that we’re all familiar with that I think it’s
all familiar with that I think it’s
all familiar with that I think it’s something that we all should be having
something that we all should be having
something that we all should be having more conversations about so for the non
more conversations about so for the non
more conversations about so for the non engineers in the room next time you come
engineers in the room next time you come
engineers in the room next time you come across an engineer don’t be scared say
across an engineer don’t be scared say
across an engineer don’t be scared say hello there people to ask them what they
hello there people to ask them what they
hello there people to ask them what they do and have a conversation with them and
do and have a conversation with them and
do and have a conversation with them and the same thing for the engineers in the
the same thing for the engineers in the
the same thing for the engineers in the room when you come across someone who’s
room when you come across someone who’s
room when you come across someone who’s not in your area who’s not an engineer
not in your area who’s not an engineer
not in your area who’s not an engineer say hello talk to them they are also
say hello talk to them they are also
say hello talk to them they are also people and have a conversation and find
people and have a conversation and find
people and have a conversation and find out what it is that they do because I
out what it is that they do because I
out what it is that they do because I because what’s happening as you’ve seen
because what’s happening as you’ve seen
because what’s happening as you’ve seen in some of the talks is society is being
in some of the talks is society is being
in some of the talks is society is being engineered all around us technology is
engineered all around us technology is
engineered all around us technology is pervasive and I think that it’s when we
pervasive and I think that it’s when we
pervasive and I think that it’s when we all get together and talk about this
all get together and talk about this
all get together and talk about this thing that we all do and are familiar
thing that we all do and are familiar
thing that we all do and are familiar with in some way that we can all come
with in some way that we can all come
with in some way that we can all come together and help all of us meet the
together and help all of us meet the
together and help all of us meet the kinds of needs that we have thank you
kinds of needs that we have thank you
kinds of needs that we have thank you [Applause]
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