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Inside the Kurdish Ground War on ISIS | Explorer


I began covering war for National

I began covering war for National Geographic in 2006 and I never got to

Geographic in 2006 and I never got to

Geographic in 2006 and I never got to Kurdistan during that part of the war

Kurdistan during that part of the war

Kurdistan during that part of the war and in fact I really didn’t have any

and in fact I really didn’t have any

and in fact I really didn’t have any idea who the Kurds war were back then

idea who the Kurds war were back then

idea who the Kurds war were back then and I happened to meet some wounded

and I happened to meet some wounded

and I happened to meet some wounded Kurdish soldiers in Baghdad and I

Kurdish soldiers in Baghdad and I

Kurdish soldiers in Baghdad and I started to think who are these guys I’ve

started to think who are these guys I’ve

started to think who are these guys I’ve never even heard of them where they live

never even heard of them where they live

never even heard of them where they live and so going north to Kurdistan after

and so going north to Kurdistan after

and so going north to Kurdistan after covering the war in the South it was

covering the war in the South it was

covering the war in the South it was like going to a different country I

like going to a different country I

like going to a different country I think the story of the Kurds is one of

think the story of the Kurds is one of

think the story of the Kurds is one of the most important ones I’ve ever been

the most important ones I’ve ever been

the most important ones I’ve ever been involved with

involved with

involved with because these are people who’ve been

because these are people who’ve been

because these are people who’ve been largely left alone to face the greatest

largely left alone to face the greatest

largely left alone to face the greatest terrorist threat in the world and

terrorist threat in the world and

terrorist threat in the world and they’re an important they have been an

they’re an important they have been an

they’re an important they have been an important American ally but after the

important American ally but after the

important American ally but after the Iraq war sort of slowed down we the

Iraq war sort of slowed down we the

Iraq war sort of slowed down we the Americans left them to their own fate

Americans left them to their own fate

Americans left them to their own fate and now they’re standing strong against

and now they’re standing strong against

and now they’re standing strong against Isis and very few other groups can do

Isis and very few other groups can do

Isis and very few other groups can do that I’d like people to learn from this

that I’d like people to learn from this

that I’d like people to learn from this show more about the Kurds who they are

show more about the Kurds who they are

show more about the Kurds who they are what they’re facing and why they’re

what they’re facing and why they’re

what they’re facing and why they’re going to be an important ally for the

going to be an important ally for the

going to be an important ally for the West going forward they are facing an

West going forward they are facing an

West going forward they are facing an enormous challenge right now in trying

enormous challenge right now in trying

enormous challenge right now in trying to keep their country stable while they

to keep their country stable while they

to keep their country stable while they fight off this enormous enemy and we

fight off this enormous enemy and we

fight off this enormous enemy and we even the United States hasn’t really had

even the United States hasn’t really had

even the United States hasn’t really had to do something like that and it’s

to do something like that and it’s

to do something like that and it’s history so it’s a unique struggle and I

history so it’s a unique struggle and I

history so it’s a unique struggle and I think Americans will sympathize greatly

think Americans will sympathize greatly

think Americans will sympathize greatly with burns the most lasting impact was

with burns the most lasting impact was

with burns the most lasting impact was made by a few the people that I

made by a few the people that I

made by a few the people that I interviewed including a female commander

interviewed including a female commander

interviewed including a female commander of the women’s battalion and she had

of the women’s battalion and she had

of the women’s battalion and she had recently lost a daughter while they were

recently lost a daughter while they were

recently lost a daughter while they were both together fighting Isis so mother

both together fighting Isis so mother

both together fighting Isis so mother and daughter were fighting on the same

and daughter were fighting on the same

and daughter were fighting on the same front line daughter was under the

front line daughter was under the

front line daughter was under the mother’s command and the daughter was

mother’s command and the daughter was

mother’s command and the daughter was killed by mortar fire and that was an

killed by mortar fire and that was an

killed by mortar fire and that was an incredibly powerful story to hear

incredibly powerful story to hear

incredibly powerful story to hear because it’s not every day that you meet

because it’s not every day that you meet

because it’s not every day that you meet someone who has given so much to defend

someone who has given so much to defend

someone who has given so much to defend their homeland

their homeland

their homeland when I hear Isis makes me angry actually

when I hear Isis makes me angry actually

when I hear Isis makes me angry actually this struggle comes closest to good

this struggle comes closest to good

this struggle comes closest to good versus evil it’s almost silly to

versus evil it’s almost silly to

versus evil it’s almost silly to describe anything in such stark terms

describe anything in such stark terms

describe anything in such stark terms but Isis is not an enemy that you

but Isis is not an enemy that you

but Isis is not an enemy that you negotiate and it makes me angry to think

negotiate and it makes me angry to think

negotiate and it makes me angry to think what they have done and especially after

what they have done and especially after

what they have done and especially after meeting people friends now who’ve lost

meeting people friends now who’ve lost

meeting people friends now who’ve lost family members to the fight against Isis

family members to the fight against Isis

family members to the fight against Isis it actually pushes you out of the

it actually pushes you out of the

it actually pushes you out of the journalistic objectivity thing a bit and

journalistic objectivity thing a bit and

journalistic objectivity thing a bit and there are many times when I thought I

there are many times when I thought I

there are many times when I thought I would have gladly joined the Kurds to

would have gladly joined the Kurds to

would have gladly joined the Kurds to fight against Isis myself

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