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Power of Cross-Divisional Collaboration | Georgi Bachvarov & Liam Hogan Fries | TEDxYouth@AASSofia


[Music]

[Music] hello like yogi said I am Liam and I

hello like yogi said I am Liam and I

hello like yogi said I am Liam and I love working on long-term projects today

love working on long-term projects today

love working on long-term projects today I get to design myself sometimes it’s

I get to design myself sometimes it’s

I get to design myself sometimes it’s hard to find classmates or just didn’t

hard to find classmates or just didn’t

hard to find classmates or just didn’t the same thing that I am for example I’m

the same thing that I am for example I’m

the same thing that I am for example I’m really curious about why e ^ I use the

really curious about why e ^ I use the

really curious about why e ^ I use the cosine of X plus I times the sine of X I

cosine of X plus I times the sine of X I

cosine of X plus I times the sine of X I mean that’s fascinating stuff

things like paradoxes and logic puzzles

things like paradoxes and logic puzzles and all sorts of brain twisters that

and all sorts of brain twisters that

and all sorts of brain twisters that leave me thinking but other people’s

leave me thinking but other people’s

leave me thinking but other people’s heads like my mom’s think it was nice

heads like my mom’s think it was nice

heads like my mom’s think it was nice interest yogi who could read me some of

interest yogi who could read me some of

interest yogi who could read me some of the complicated stuff has been very

the complicated stuff has been very

the complicated stuff has been very interesting and fun and definitely a lot

interesting and fun and definitely a lot

interesting and fun and definitely a lot better than class I mean who would

better than class I mean who would

better than class I mean who would choose adding fractions over crazy world

choose adding fractions over crazy world

choose adding fractions over crazy world poems that barely make any sense

poems that barely make any sense

poems that barely make any sense working with liam has been an absolutely

working with liam has been an absolutely

working with liam has been an absolutely extraordinary opportunity for me I’ve

extraordinary opportunity for me I’ve

extraordinary opportunity for me I’ve learned so much that I don’t even know

learned so much that I don’t even know

learned so much that I don’t even know where to begin and I’m guessing some of

where to begin and I’m guessing some of

where to begin and I’m guessing some of you might be a bit skeptical and you

you might be a bit skeptical and you

you might be a bit skeptical and you might be thinking okay all you did was

might be thinking okay all you did was

might be thinking okay all you did was teach a fifth grader a bunch of math and

teach a fifth grader a bunch of math and

teach a fifth grader a bunch of math and stuff right well I also taught him how

stuff right well I also taught him how

stuff right well I also taught him how to browse naughty stuff on the internet

to browse naughty stuff on the internet

to browse naughty stuff on the internet without his parents finding out jokes

without his parents finding out jokes

without his parents finding out jokes I’d teaching is learning twice over

I’d teaching is learning twice over

I’d teaching is learning twice over Joseph do bird of his famous French

Joseph do bird of his famous French

Joseph do bird of his famous French moralist said that this quote has gained

moralist said that this quote has gained

moralist said that this quote has gained a very new meaning for me ever since

a very new meaning for me ever since

a very new meaning for me ever since I’ve worked with Liam there’s always

I’ve worked with Liam there’s always

I’ve worked with Liam there’s always been the literal meaning that a teacher

been the literal meaning that a teacher

been the literal meaning that a teacher must know the material he was teaching

must know the material he was teaching

must know the material he was teaching twice over once for his own sake and

twice over once for his own sake and

twice over once for his own sake and understanding and a second time over so

understanding and a second time over so

understanding and a second time over so he can effectively communicate it to his

he can effectively communicate it to his

he can effectively communicate it to his students but the meaning I’ve the right

students but the meaning I’ve the right

students but the meaning I’ve the right from this is that teaching is learning

from this is that teaching is learning

from this is that teaching is learning to know yourself and learning to know

to know yourself and learning to know

to know yourself and learning to know your students yes that is my name and my

your students yes that is my name and my

your students yes that is my name and my title up on the screen now what I mean

title up on the screen now what I mean

title up on the screen now what I mean by this is that we all experience

by this is that we all experience

by this is that we all experience reality differently and teaching is

reality differently and teaching is

reality differently and teaching is essentially showing a little part of

essentially showing a little part of

essentially showing a little part of your reality to someone else essentially

your reality to someone else essentially

your reality to someone else essentially you have to make someone see what you

you have to make someone see what you

you have to make someone see what you see and I believe you can’t really do

see and I believe you can’t really do

see and I believe you can’t really do that unless you first see what he sees

that unless you first see what he sees

that unless you first see what he sees and in case this is getting too

and in case this is getting too

and in case this is getting too complicated what I mean is that I

complicated what I mean is that I

complicated what I mean is that I believe effective mentorship and

believe effective mentorship and

believe effective mentorship and teaching are almost exclusively based on

teaching are almost exclusively based on

teaching are almost exclusively based on empathy and understanding and really

empathy and understanding and really

empathy and understanding and really it’s in that short moment when you try

it’s in that short moment when you try

it’s in that short moment when you try to empathize with someone to teach them

to empathize with someone to teach them

to empathize with someone to teach them something you actually get a glimpse of

something you actually get a glimpse of

something you actually get a glimpse of your own character with a different

your own character with a different

your own character with a different perspective added on to it for example

perspective added on to it for example

perspective added on to it for example me and Liam would solve word problems in

me and Liam would solve word problems in

me and Liam would solve word problems in logic puzzles and whenever I would come

logic puzzles and whenever I would come

logic puzzles and whenever I would come across one that took me more than five

across one that took me more than five

across one that took me more than five to ten minutes to understand I would say

to ten minutes to understand I would say

to ten minutes to understand I would say okay let’s move on and my reasoning

okay let’s move on and my reasoning

okay let’s move on and my reasoning behind this was okay I’m a higher level

behind this was okay I’m a higher level

behind this was okay I’m a higher level math student if it takes me this long to

math student if it takes me this long to

math student if it takes me this long to understand something it would take ages

understand something it would take ages

understand something it would take ages to explain which would be valuable time

to explain which would be valuable time

to explain which would be valuable time lost which we could better spend maybe

lost which we could better spend maybe

lost which we could better spend maybe learning more stuff and I do realize it

learning more stuff and I do realize it

learning more stuff and I do realize it is quite arrogant now but whenever I

is quite arrogant now but whenever I

is quite arrogant now but whenever I would do this all the sudden I would

would do this all the sudden I would

would do this all the sudden I would feel disconnected from Liam because he

feel disconnected from Liam because he

feel disconnected from Liam because he wouldn’t move on to the next problem he

wouldn’t move on to the next problem he

wouldn’t move on to the next problem he would still struggle with the previous

would still struggle with the previous

would still struggle with the previous one and I would realize I could be of so

one and I would realize I could be of so

one and I would realize I could be of so much more help to him if I just learned

much more help to him if I just learned

much more help to him if I just learned to struggle and persevere with him and

to struggle and persevere with him and

to struggle and persevere with him and that’s how I knew maybe I was being a

that’s how I knew maybe I was being a

that’s how I knew maybe I was being a bit too impatient what I’m getting at is

bit too impatient what I’m getting at is

bit too impatient what I’m getting at is that mentoring or teaching someone

that mentoring or teaching someone

that mentoring or teaching someone something is an amazing tool for

something is an amazing tool for

something is an amazing tool for self-development and hence I believe

self-development and hence I believe

self-development and hence I believe that if you all sat down and explained

that if you all sat down and explained

that if you all sat down and explained some brain twisters to a fifth grader we

some brain twisters to a fifth grader we

some brain twisters to a fifth grader we could all be a bit better and maybe the

could all be a bit better and maybe the

could all be a bit better and maybe the world a better place

world a better place

world a better place they’d say thank you because I have a

they’d say thank you because I have a

they’d say thank you because I have a tendency to get frustrated with problems

tendency to get frustrated with problems

tendency to get frustrated with problems I can’t solve immediately and I thought

I can’t solve immediately and I thought

I can’t solve immediately and I thought I was learning from you not to give up

I was learning from you not to give up

I was learning from you not to give up yes sure you learning from each other

yes sure you learning from each other

yes sure you learning from each other wait this makes my head hurt who would

wait this makes my head hurt who would

wait this makes my head hurt who would teaching who and who is on Camus well

teaching who and who is on Camus well

teaching who and who is on Camus well who cares it’s a lot of whose anyway a

who cares it’s a lot of whose anyway a

who cares it’s a lot of whose anyway a pretty cooler that can happen Andy it is

pretty cooler that can happen Andy it is

pretty cooler that can happen Andy it is now I have a brother who was 12 years

now I have a brother who was 12 years

now I have a brother who was 12 years old which would make him a bit older

old which would make him a bit older

old which would make him a bit older than Liam and I have to admit I’ve never

than Liam and I have to admit I’ve never

than Liam and I have to admit I’ve never been too good at communicating with him

been too good at communicating with him

been too good at communicating with him as most instances of us communicating

as most instances of us communicating

as most instances of us communicating would end up like this for him and like

would end up like this for him and like

would end up like this for him and like this for me and I think this situation

this for me and I think this situation

this for me and I think this situation we can all agree is not particularly

we can all agree is not particularly

we can all agree is not particularly fair or nice well this is one of my

fair or nice well this is one of my

fair or nice well this is one of my biggest worries when I found out that I

biggest worries when I found out that I

biggest worries when I found out that I was working with Liam and I don’t mean

was working with Liam and I don’t mean

was working with Liam and I don’t mean this situation in particular but rather

this situation in particular but rather

this situation in particular but rather this really embodies which is the

this really embodies which is the

this really embodies which is the difficulty in

difficulty in

difficulty in finding an appropriate way of

finding an appropriate way of

finding an appropriate way of communication where the age difference

communication where the age difference

communication where the age difference is so big I remember the first meeting

is so big I remember the first meeting

is so big I remember the first meeting we had I was just very nervous thinking

we had I was just very nervous thinking

we had I was just very nervous thinking okay how should I treat him do I treat

okay how should I treat him do I treat

okay how should I treat him do I treat him like a peer or do I treat him like a

him like a peer or do I treat him like a

him like a peer or do I treat him like a baby what if a bad word slips my mouth

baby what if a bad word slips my mouth

baby what if a bad word slips my mouth all these various questions were racing

all these various questions were racing

all these various questions were racing through my mind first true meanings were

through my mind first true meanings were

through my mind first true meanings were pretty awkward for me too

pretty awkward for me too

pretty awkward for me too I mean meeting with someone who’s almost

I mean meeting with someone who’s almost

I mean meeting with someone who’s almost twice your age you can complicate a mask

twice your age you can complicate a mask

twice your age you can complicate a mask that barely makes sense I enjoyed your

that barely makes sense I enjoyed your

that barely makes sense I enjoyed your name class but I didn’t really know

name class but I didn’t really know

name class but I didn’t really know georgette I’m not sure that even I

georgette I’m not sure that even I

georgette I’m not sure that even I really knew what we what we were gonna

really knew what we what we were gonna

really knew what we what we were gonna do the first few times you just play

do the first few times you just play

do the first few times you just play with Legos and talked only a bit but in

with Legos and talked only a bit but in

with Legos and talked only a bit but in that time I remember thinking okay it’s

that time I remember thinking okay it’s

that time I remember thinking okay it’s kind of cool it I think so play a flavor

kind of cool it I think so play a flavor

kind of cool it I think so play a flavor sort of 17 and if be thinking about

sort of 17 and if be thinking about

sort of 17 and if be thinking about having an opportunity like this you have

having an opportunity like this you have

having an opportunity like this you have to remember that it takes time it

to remember that it takes time it

to remember that it takes time it certainly does take time even to this

certainly does take time even to this

certainly does take time even to this day sometimes it’s kind of hard to know

day sometimes it’s kind of hard to know

day sometimes it’s kind of hard to know that if something that’s interesting for

that if something that’s interesting for

that if something that’s interesting for me is also interesting for Liam for

me is also interesting for Liam for

me is also interesting for Liam for example in a relatively recent meeting

example in a relatively recent meeting

example in a relatively recent meeting we had we we were looking at TED Talks

we had we we were looking at TED Talks

we had we we were looking at TED Talks and I found this TED talk about the

and I found this TED talk about the

and I found this TED talk about the economic recession of 2008 and being

economic recession of 2008 and being

economic recession of 2008 and being interested in the subject I just

interested in the subject I just

interested in the subject I just immediately jumped on it but halfway

immediately jumped on it but halfway

immediately jumped on it but halfway through the talk I know that Liam was

through the talk I know that Liam was

through the talk I know that Liam was falling asleep and I realized okay maybe

falling asleep and I realized okay maybe

falling asleep and I realized okay maybe socioeconomic interactions aren’t as

socioeconomic interactions aren’t as

socioeconomic interactions aren’t as interesting to a fifth grader as I might

interesting to a fifth grader as I might

interesting to a fifth grader as I might have thought yeah George what were you

have thought yeah George what were you

have thought yeah George what were you thinking but doesn’t know is that what I

thinking but doesn’t know is that what I

thinking but doesn’t know is that what I loved watching TED talks and to even

loved watching TED talks and to even

loved watching TED talks and to even they watch them that I don’t fully

they watch them that I don’t fully

they watch them that I don’t fully understand I’m able to walk away

understand I’m able to walk away

understand I’m able to walk away thinking about it I ask a lot of

thinking about it I ask a lot of

thinking about it I ask a lot of questions at home also a lot of the time

questions at home also a lot of the time

questions at home also a lot of the time and that’s wondering how I could help or

and that’s wondering how I could help or

and that’s wondering how I could help or how I can do whatever that talk was

how I can do whatever that talk was

how I can do whatever that talk was saying there is no Universal answer to

saying there is no Universal answer to

saying there is no Universal answer to the age-old question of effective

the age-old question of effective

the age-old question of effective communication sometimes figuring out

communication sometimes figuring out

communication sometimes figuring out what interests others is a trial and

what interests others is a trial and

what interests others is a trial and error process but as such it is an

error process but as such it is an

error process but as such it is an extremely rewarding one because you

extremely rewarding one because you

extremely rewarding one because you learn some very important things you

learn some very important things you

learn some very important things you learn how to communicate you learn how

learn how to communicate you learn how

learn how to communicate you learn how to deal with an awkward situation you

to deal with an awkward situation you

to deal with an awkward situation you learn how to listen to the other person

learn how to listen to the other person

learn how to listen to the other person and how to understand him you learn

and how to understand him you learn

and how to understand him you learn empathy yes why don’t we understand

empathy yes why don’t we understand

empathy yes why don’t we understand to socialize I am only ten I didn’t find

to socialize I am only ten I didn’t find

to socialize I am only ten I didn’t find that I could emphasize your school

that I could emphasize your school

that I could emphasize your school workload and common interests like math

workload and common interests like math

workload and common interests like math and riddles I learned I have a lot more

and riddles I learned I have a lot more

and riddles I learned I have a lot more in common with all the people that I saw

in common with all the people that I saw

in common with all the people that I saw it

it

it well shrinks I think that maybe we all

well shrinks I think that maybe we all

well shrinks I think that maybe we all have a lot more in common that we notice

have a lot more in common that we notice

have a lot more in common that we notice absolutely and if you’re wondering why

absolutely and if you’re wondering why

absolutely and if you’re wondering why is all this important here’s why I think

is all this important here’s why I think

is all this important here’s why I think it is important in this day and age we

it is important in this day and age we

it is important in this day and age we have so many channels and means of

have so many channels and means of

have so many channels and means of communication we have facebook we have

communication we have facebook we have

communication we have facebook we have messengers snapchat Instagram all these

messengers snapchat Instagram all these

messengers snapchat Instagram all these things and it’s kind of ironic because

things and it’s kind of ironic because

things and it’s kind of ironic because although we have all these different

although we have all these different

although we have all these different means of communication we’ve actually

means of communication we’ve actually

means of communication we’ve actually lost some of our ability of

lost some of our ability of

lost some of our ability of self-expression nowadays no one walks

self-expression nowadays no one walks

self-expression nowadays no one walks off to a girl and asks her out in person

off to a girl and asks her out in person

off to a girl and asks her out in person it’s all done through messenger nowadays

it’s all done through messenger nowadays

it’s all done through messenger nowadays we don’t go up to the person we love

we don’t go up to the person we love

we don’t go up to the person we love look them in the eyes and say I love you

look them in the eyes and say I love you

look them in the eyes and say I love you and feel the awesome wave of adrenaline

and feel the awesome wave of adrenaline

and feel the awesome wave of adrenaline excitement wash over us we send card

excitement wash over us we send card

excitement wash over us we send card emojis and the bigger they are the more

emojis and the bigger they are the more

emojis and the bigger they are the more love I guess and I can safely say the

love I guess and I can safely say the

love I guess and I can safely say the tutoring of fifth grader or mentoring

tutoring of fifth grader or mentoring

tutoring of fifth grader or mentoring him is the first step to regaining that

him is the first step to regaining that

him is the first step to regaining that lost paradise of communication on this

lost paradise of communication on this

lost paradise of communication on this note I think it’s important to say how

note I think it’s important to say how

note I think it’s important to say how much Liam has actually schooled me now I

much Liam has actually schooled me now I

much Liam has actually schooled me now I hope all of you have read the little

hope all of you have read the little

hope all of you have read the little prince

prince

prince and if not I guess you should be

and if not I guess you should be

and if not I guess you should be wondering what you’re doing with your

wondering what you’re doing with your

wondering what you’re doing with your lives I just read that book even though

lives I just read that book even though

lives I just read that book even though it’s hard to comprehend it was very deep

it’s hard to comprehend it was very deep

it’s hard to comprehend it was very deep and philosophical did I say that right I

and philosophical did I say that right I

and philosophical did I say that right I think the meaning is that we all

think the meaning is that we all

think the meaning is that we all imagined the news our imaginations but

imagined the news our imaginations but

imagined the news our imaginations but it all simply deny it absolutely and if

it all simply deny it absolutely and if

it all simply deny it absolutely and if you remember one of the most iconic

you remember one of the most iconic

you remember one of the most iconic moments of the little prince is when the

moments of the little prince is when the

moments of the little prince is when the narrator is talking about how all the

narrator is talking about how all the

narrator is talking about how all the grown-ups misinterpret his drawing of a

grown-ups misinterpret his drawing of a

grown-ups misinterpret his drawing of a boa constrictor that has devoured an

boa constrictor that has devoured an

boa constrictor that has devoured an elephant there’s a cat and this is of

elephant there’s a cat and this is of

elephant there’s a cat and this is of course the image I’m referring to well

course the image I’m referring to well

course the image I’m referring to well what I want to say is that Liam has

what I want to say is that Liam has

what I want to say is that Liam has taught me how to see the boa constrictor

taught me how to see the boa constrictor

taught me how to see the boa constrictor in the elephant time over and time over

in the elephant time over and time over

in the elephant time over and time over again opposed to the hat it’s amazing

again opposed to the hat it’s amazing

again opposed to the hat it’s amazing how much perspective we lose when we

how much perspective we lose when we

how much perspective we lose when we grow up under the pretext that the views

grow up under the pretext that the views

grow up under the pretext that the views we hold are naive or childish and really

we hold are naive or childish and really

we hold are naive or childish and really that’s why I think one of the best

that’s why I think one of the best

that’s why I think one of the best things for someone my age or even older

things for someone my age or even older

things for someone my age or even older is to sit down and immerse yourself in

is to sit down and immerse yourself in

is to sit down and immerse yourself in one of Liam’s drawings or a children’s

one of Liam’s drawings or a children’s

one of Liam’s drawings or a children’s books because when you do that you

books because when you do that you

books because when you do that you thinking for a brief moment like a child

thinking for a brief moment like a child

thinking for a brief moment like a child again when you think like a child you

again when you think like a child you

again when you think like a child you believe like a child and that means you

believe like a child and that means you

believe like a child and that means you believe you can be Superman you believe

believe you can be Superman you believe

believe you can be Superman you believe you can be a Jedi when you grow up you

you can be a Jedi when you grow up you

you can be a Jedi when you grow up you believe that kindness brings two happy

believe that kindness brings two happy

believe that kindness brings two happy endings like in fairy tales you believe

endings like in fairy tales you believe

endings like in fairy tales you believe in yourself which i think is very

in yourself which i think is very

in yourself which i think is very crucial when it comes to transforming

crucial when it comes to transforming

crucial when it comes to transforming communities because as Steve Jobs once

communities because as Steve Jobs once

communities because as Steve Jobs once rightfully said the people who are crazy

rightfully said the people who are crazy

rightfully said the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the

enough to think they can change the

enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do hey George are

world are the ones who do hey George are

world are the ones who do hey George are you telling me I can’t be a Jedi when I

you telling me I can’t be a Jedi when I

you telling me I can’t be a Jedi when I go up anyway even though scheduling this

go up anyway even though scheduling this

go up anyway even though scheduling this was sometimes hard and sometimes George

was sometimes hard and sometimes George

was sometimes hard and sometimes George just had to join me in class I think it

just had to join me in class I think it

just had to join me in class I think it paid off and I think it’s something

paid off and I think it’s something

paid off and I think it’s something other it’s good to put some effort into

other it’s good to put some effort into

other it’s good to put some effort into because it would because it’s worth it

because it would because it’s worth it

because it would because it’s worth it and in international schools you already

and in international schools you already

and in international schools you already have all his age was working in the same

have all his age was working in the same

have all his age was working in the same space so why don’t you make this part of

space so why don’t you make this part of

space so why don’t you make this part of their daily routine absolutely and I

their daily routine absolutely and I

their daily routine absolutely and I would like to take this opportunity to

would like to take this opportunity to

would like to take this opportunity to make a call to action through our school

make a call to action through our school

make a call to action through our school and all the other schools around the

and all the other schools around the

and all the other schools around the world that will ever see this plant

world that will ever see this plant

world that will ever see this plant cross-age collaborations are form of

cross-age collaborations are form of

cross-age collaborations are form of Education like no other and like most

Education like no other and like most

Education like no other and like most other things in life they shouldn’t be

other things in life they shouldn’t be

other things in life they shouldn’t be forced upon people but I deeply believe

forced upon people but I deeply believe

forced upon people but I deeply believe they should be encouraged and supported

they should be encouraged and supported

they should be encouraged and supported by for because believe me they are worth

by for because believe me they are worth

by for because believe me they are worth it thank you very much

it thank you very much

it thank you very much [Applause]

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