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Why I Don’t Feel Guilty for Busting Wildlife Traffickers | Nat Geo Live


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Onkuri: Government agencies in many parts of the world

either don’t know much about

the problem of wildlife trafficking

or they might be understaffed, they might be under-trained,

they might be under-equipped.

So, we go in to help them and supplement their efforts.

We give them investigation training

we sometimes act as decoy buyers

to help them gather evidence that they need.

This is a typical seizure.

Each one those little blue bags contains one balled-up pangolin.

A typical seizure can have anything from 50-200 animals

and they are transported under extraordinarily

unhygienic and inhuman conditions.

They’re just balled-up and stuffed into boxes.

They may be, you know, half-starved

and certainly dehydrated by the time they reach the market.

Then to increase their body weight

they are force-fed flour and sometimes even cement

just so they can make more money.

Another trade we worked on was the exotic pet trade.

This is a fairly typical tourist night spot where

these people walk around and they ask tourists

to take pictures with slow lorises.

These animals are all poached from the wild

and their teeth are yanked out

so they don’t bite the tourists.

And when we were working with the police team on this

one of my colleagues who doesn’t always do investigations

she asked me, “Do you not sometimes

feel bad about what you are doing?”

In the sense that you are

gaining the trust of these traffickers.

Obviously they like you and they talk to you nicely

and then you get them arrested.

And I thought about it and I realized that

no, I don’t feel bad for them.

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That’s because…

That’s because once you go undercover

and you start talking to them

you realize they feel nothing for these animals.

One of the traffickers we talked to, she told us

about how she would smuggle baby slow lorises.

She would put them in little boxes

little cardboard boxes and put all those cardboard boxes

inside a big suitcase to send by air.

The animals were sedated.

And she told me that if all the animals survive

then obviously she was giving them too much air

and she could cram in a few more the next time.

But if less than half survive, then she would consider

putting them in slightly larger cardboard boxes.

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