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Creating connections through art | Peter Hudson | TEDxCourtauldInstitute


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[Applause] hi everyone yes so my name is Peter

hi everyone yes so my name is Peter

hi everyone yes so my name is Peter Hudson now my first paragraph has come a

Hudson now my first paragraph has come a

Hudson now my first paragraph has come a little bit defunct but petered San Diego

little bit defunct but petered San Diego

little bit defunct but petered San Diego so yeah I graduated just last year at

so yeah I graduated just last year at

so yeah I graduated just last year at the Royal College apart from a two-year

the Royal College apart from a two-year

the Royal College apart from a two-year master’s in designer Corrections and

master’s in designer Corrections and

master’s in designer Corrections and like a lot of artists are coming to

like a lot of artists are coming to

like a lot of artists are coming to contact with in London these days Art’s

contact with in London these days Art’s

contact with in London these days Art’s not the only thing that they do so you

not the only thing that they do so you

not the only thing that they do so you can tell that from my various other

can tell that from my various other

can tell that from my various other occupations before as an artist though

occupations before as an artist though

occupations before as an artist though I’m especially interested in

I’m especially interested in

I’m especially interested in person-to-person communication and how

person-to-person communication and how

person-to-person communication and how it’s mediated through and impacted by

it’s mediated through and impacted by

it’s mediated through and impacted by digital technologies which given the

digital technologies which given the

digital technologies which given the increasing incorporation of technology

increasing incorporation of technology

increasing incorporation of technology into our everyday lives is a more

into our everyday lives is a more

into our everyday lives is a more pertinent and rich subject than ever

pertinent and rich subject than ever

pertinent and rich subject than ever before I’m now going to talk about how

before I’m now going to talk about how

before I’m now going to talk about how and why I try to respond to this concern

and why I try to respond to this concern

and why I try to respond to this concern through some of my artworks this is

through some of my artworks this is

through some of my artworks this is sorry

sorry

sorry we met in Strasbourg in France on an

we met in Strasbourg in France on an

we met in Strasbourg in France on an Erasmus I was studying graphic design

Erasmus I was studying graphic design

Erasmus I was studying graphic design and she was studying jewelry we only met

and she was studying jewelry we only met

and she was studying jewelry we only met right near the end of the year but we

right near the end of the year but we

right near the end of the year but we got on really well then sadly it was

got on really well then sadly it was

got on really well then sadly it was time to say goodbye we both had to

time to say goodbye we both had to

time to say goodbye we both had to finish our degrees her in Germany and me

finish our degrees her in Germany and me

finish our degrees her in Germany and me in the UK in Camberwell then we

in the UK in Camberwell then we

in the UK in Camberwell then we continued to see each other over Skype

continued to see each other over Skype

continued to see each other over Skype as you can see and despite ever dodgy

as you can see and despite ever dodgy

as you can see and despite ever dodgy internet connections we managed to keep

internet connections we managed to keep

internet connections we managed to keep it up and with the occasional visit our

it up and with the occasional visit our

it up and with the occasional visit our relationship actually flourished over

relationship actually flourished over

relationship actually flourished over that year we spent living in our

that year we spent living in our

that year we spent living in our respective countries I was amazed at how

respective countries I was amazed at how

respective countries I was amazed at how just just a few pixels were able to

just just a few pixels were able to

just just a few pixels were able to communicate so much more of what’s

communicate so much more of what’s

communicate so much more of what’s happening is in your kind of imagination

happening is in your kind of imagination

happening is in your kind of imagination in that sense and your kind of mind

in that sense and your kind of mind

in that sense and your kind of mind makes up the rest of what’s actually

makes up the rest of what’s actually

makes up the rest of what’s actually happening in that space it was

happening in that space it was

happening in that space it was frustrating at times but you know it

frustrating at times but you know it

frustrating at times but you know it kind of it worked out so when you

kind of it worked out so when you

kind of it worked out so when you communicate on skype you’re sort of

communicate on skype you’re sort of

communicate on skype you’re sort of looking at the other

looking at the other

looking at the other person but you’re in addition to looking

person but you’re in addition to looking

person but you’re in addition to looking at the person you’re also just looking

at the person you’re also just looking

at the person you’re also just looking at the screen and there’s a strange sort

at the screen and there’s a strange sort

at the screen and there’s a strange sort of sensation of the other person both

of sensation of the other person both

of sensation of the other person both being there and very much being not

being there and very much being not

being there and very much being not there and in addition you know we make

there and in addition you know we make

there and in addition you know we make so many connections and it can seem so

so many connections and it can seem so

so many connections and it can seem so much imagery via the screen so much

much imagery via the screen so much

much imagery via the screen so much complex emotion is read through what is

complex emotion is read through what is

complex emotion is read through what is sometimes just a really small window so

sometimes just a really small window so

sometimes just a really small window so I’m really intrigued by a relationship

I’m really intrigued by a relationship

I’m really intrigued by a relationship with and our reliance upon the screen in

with and our reliance upon the screen in

with and our reliance upon the screen in general although there are lots of like

general although there are lots of like

general although there are lots of like negative connotations associated with

negative connotations associated with

negative connotations associated with staring at screens I don’t really want

staring at screens I don’t really want

staring at screens I don’t really want to be negative but I do want to sort of

to be negative but I do want to sort of

to be negative but I do want to sort of probe the issue in our relationship

probe the issue in our relationship

probe the issue in our relationship after all it helped me personally in my

after all it helped me personally in my

after all it helped me personally in my personal relationship we’re still

personal relationship we’re still

personal relationship we’re still together by the way he’s good so I

together by the way he’s good so I

together by the way he’s good so I wanted to translate this kind of

wanted to translate this kind of

wanted to translate this kind of intimacy of these just few pixels and

intimacy of these just few pixels and

intimacy of these just few pixels and something tangible and create something

something tangible and create something

something tangible and create something to probe this relationship and to

to probe this relationship and to

to probe this relationship and to communicate it so eye contact is a

communicate it so eye contact is a

communicate it so eye contact is a pretty universal form of communication

pretty universal form of communication

pretty universal form of communication for humans well animals yes the eyes

for humans well animals yes the eyes

for humans well animals yes the eyes provide both a way to read the world and

provide both a way to read the world and

provide both a way to read the world and a way to be read by others they’re an

a way to be read by others they’re an

a way to be read by others they’re an arresting image and a symbol of

arresting image and a symbol of

arresting image and a symbol of perception so I use the motif of eyes to

perception so I use the motif of eyes to

perception so I use the motif of eyes to create this installation at the working

create this installation at the working

create this installation at the working collection to communicate to passers-by

collection to communicate to passers-by

collection to communicate to passers-by on Euston Road I wanted to use

on Euston Road I wanted to use

on Euston Road I wanted to use pixelation in a way that would question

pixelation in a way that would question

pixelation in a way that would question people’s own perception of the eyes

people’s own perception of the eyes

people’s own perception of the eyes staring out in front of them and make

staring out in front of them and make

staring out in front of them and make them acutely aware of the mediation of

them acutely aware of the mediation of

them acutely aware of the mediation of the screen

up close the display appears as a barely

up close the display appears as a barely discernible discernible flickering

discernible discernible flickering

discernible discernible flickering mosaic each pixel is about a foot

mosaic each pixel is about a foot

mosaic each pixel is about a foot squared in size and they’re illuminated

squared in size and they’re illuminated

squared in size and they’re illuminated with an array of 24 LEDs each about

with an array of 24 LEDs each about

with an array of 24 LEDs each about 16,000 in total and which projects onto

16,000 in total and which projects onto

16,000 in total and which projects onto a dark rear-projection vinyl that was

a dark rear-projection vinyl that was

a dark rear-projection vinyl that was applied to the inside of the windows

applied to the inside of the windows

applied to the inside of the windows which helped make it visible during the

which helped make it visible during the

which helped make it visible during the daytime and to create the kind of warm

daytime and to create the kind of warm

daytime and to create the kind of warm skin tones or skin light tones it was

skin tones or skin light tones it was

skin tones or skin light tones it was also important that the pixels had sort

also important that the pixels had sort

also important that the pixels had sort of soft edges as I wanted the

of soft edges as I wanted the

of soft edges as I wanted the interaction to be with the texture and

interaction to be with the texture and

interaction to be with the texture and the feel of the screen without reading

the feel of the screen without reading

the feel of the screen without reading into too much what the image was so

Euston Road is is really wide so from

Euston Road is is really wide so from the other side the pairs of eyes were

the other side the pairs of eyes were

the other side the pairs of eyes were kind of instantly discernible and if you

kind of instantly discernible and if you

kind of instantly discernible and if you take a picture with your phone it would

take a picture with your phone it would

take a picture with your phone it would become even smaller to the point where

become even smaller to the point where

become even smaller to the point where you barely notice the resolution at all

you barely notice the resolution at all

you barely notice the resolution at all the eyes were situated in the window

the eyes were situated in the window

the eyes were situated in the window almost make the building into a body so

almost make the building into a body so

almost make the building into a body so I decided to use the eyes of the

I decided to use the eyes of the

I decided to use the eyes of the Wellcome Trust staff for the content I

Wellcome Trust staff for the content I

Wellcome Trust staff for the content I filmed about 70 members of the staff

filmed about 70 members of the staff

filmed about 70 members of the staff from all levels of the organization from

from all levels of the organization from

from all levels of the organization from receptionist to senior figures and I’ll

receptionist to senior figures and I’ll

receptionist to senior figures and I’ll see to them to go for a series of eye

see to them to go for a series of eye

see to them to go for a series of eye movements I talked to them and asked

movements I talked to them and asked

movements I talked to them and asked questions in order to sort stimulate a

questions in order to sort stimulate a

questions in order to sort stimulate a variety of different eye movements and

variety of different eye movements and

variety of different eye movements and expressions also I asked them to close

expressions also I asked them to close

expressions also I asked them to close their eyes and relax for several minutes

their eyes and relax for several minutes

their eyes and relax for several minutes and some of them one breaks from work

and some of them one breaks from work

and some of them one breaks from work and they really enjoyed that quite a lot

and they really enjoyed that quite a lot

and they really enjoyed that quite a lot but it enabled me to program the display

but it enabled me to program the display

but it enabled me to program the display so the eyes could go to sleep at night

so the eyes could go to sleep at night

so the eyes could go to sleep at night only to be woken up by the movement of

only to be woken up by the movement of

only to be woken up by the movement of passerby so the next project I want to

passerby so the next project I want to

passerby so the next project I want to tell you about I believe that yeah is is

tell you about I believe that yeah is is

tell you about I believe that yeah is is my graduating project from the Royal

my graduating project from the Royal

my graduating project from the Royal College of Art it’s an attempt to probe

College of Art it’s an attempt to probe

College of Art it’s an attempt to probe the subject of human communication but

the subject of human communication but

the subject of human communication but this time in a more sort of applied

this time in a more sort of applied

this time in a more sort of applied philosophical sense our first game it’s

philosophical sense our first game it’s

philosophical sense our first game it’s content

content

content philosophy during my a-levels a few

philosophy during my a-levels a few

philosophy during my a-levels a few years ago and it was hugely kind of

years ago and it was hugely kind of

years ago and it was hugely kind of impacted by it it’s you know we started

impacted by it it’s you know we started

impacted by it it’s you know we started off with Descartes some meditations but

off with Descartes some meditations but

off with Descartes some meditations but I off to be covered doubting the

I off to be covered doubting the

I off to be covered doubting the external world which obviously everyone

external world which obviously everyone

external world which obviously everyone kind of knows about I sort of lost

kind of knows about I sort of lost

kind of knows about I sort of lost interest after that everything seemed a

interest after that everything seemed a

interest after that everything seemed a bit bit trivial and I just never really

bit bit trivial and I just never really

bit bit trivial and I just never really got past the whole does everything

got past the whole does everything

got past the whole does everything actually exist thing thus far 21st

actually exist thing thus far 21st

actually exist thing thus far 21st century culture is centered on

century culture is centered on

century culture is centered on interaction I communicate therefore am

interaction I communicate therefore am

interaction I communicate therefore am is the defining affirmation of

is the defining affirmation of

is the defining affirmation of contemporary existence I’ve found this

contemporary existence I’ve found this

contemporary existence I’ve found this quote to be quite moving in a way to me

quote to be quite moving in a way to me

quote to be quite moving in a way to me it expresses the idea that communication

it expresses the idea that communication

it expresses the idea that communication is more like an act of persisting in the

is more like an act of persisting in the

is more like an act of persisting in the world and the fact connectivity is so

world and the fact connectivity is so

world and the fact connectivity is so ubiquitous drives the need to both be

ubiquitous drives the need to both be

ubiquitous drives the need to both be noticed and unaware of and aware of

noticed and unaware of and aware of

noticed and unaware of and aware of others so a few years ago I was reading

others so a few years ago I was reading

others so a few years ago I was reading the windup bird Chronicles by Haruki

the windup bird Chronicles by Haruki

the windup bird Chronicles by Haruki Murakami there’s another inspiration

Murakami there’s another inspiration

Murakami there’s another inspiration point for this project the story’s

point for this project the story’s

point for this project the story’s protagonist is going through what seems

protagonist is going through what seems

protagonist is going through what seems like a marriage breakdown and as world

like a marriage breakdown and as world

like a marriage breakdown and as world is beginning to distort around him early

is beginning to distort around him early

is beginning to distort around him early on in the book he goes on he goes to the

on in the book he goes on he goes to the

on in the book he goes on he goes to the end of his garden and discovers a deep

end of his garden and discovers a deep

end of his garden and discovers a deep well then on several occasions during

well then on several occasions during

well then on several occasions during the course of events he climbs down the

the course of events he climbs down the

the course of events he climbs down the well to sit at the bottom in total

well to sit at the bottom in total

well to sit at the bottom in total darkness totally alone I found this also

darkness totally alone I found this also

darkness totally alone I found this also to be quite a seductive idea that there

to be quite a seductive idea that there

to be quite a seductive idea that there could exist a space where you can

could exist a space where you can

could exist a space where you can retreat to and be totally alone almost

retreat to and be totally alone almost

retreat to and be totally alone almost like a kind of parallel universe

like a kind of parallel universe

like a kind of parallel universe so being undetectable as a name the

so being undetectable as a name the

so being undetectable as a name the project is the creation and exploration

project is the creation and exploration

project is the creation and exploration of a completely removed private

of a completely removed private

of a completely removed private enclosure situated within a public space

enclosure situated within a public space

enclosure situated within a public space upon entering the occupants entire

upon entering the occupants entire

upon entering the occupants entire perceptual landscape is limited entirely

perceptual landscape is limited entirely

perceptual landscape is limited entirely to themselves because space is where

to themselves because space is where

to themselves because space is where space is where you aren’t monitored

space is where you aren’t monitored

space is where you aren’t monitored particularly

particularly

particularly are increasingly eroding away and

are increasingly eroding away and

are increasingly eroding away and they’re hard to find and even when it is

they’re hard to find and even when it is

they’re hard to find and even when it is possible to have a kind of moment of

possible to have a kind of moment of

possible to have a kind of moment of isolation people still try to remain

isolation people still try to remain

isolation people still try to remain connected via phones like even on the

connected via phones like even on the

connected via phones like even on the toilet for example whether know just me

toilet for example whether know just me

toilet for example whether know just me okay yeah so the the beef itself it’s a

okay yeah so the the beef itself it’s a

okay yeah so the the beef itself it’s a little bit dark on that but some other

little bit dark on that but some other

little bit dark on that but some other ones after is a black rubber clad cube

ones after is a black rubber clad cube

ones after is a black rubber clad cube we’ve half me a thick metal lion walls

we’ve half me a thick metal lion walls

we’ve half me a thick metal lion walls and a door it aimed to prevent acoustic

and a door it aimed to prevent acoustic

and a door it aimed to prevent acoustic transmission and all forms of digital

transmission and all forms of digital

transmission and all forms of digital communication to create a kind of other

communication to create a kind of other

communication to create a kind of other dimension inside well that was the dream

dimension inside well that was the dream

dimension inside well that was the dream but anyone involved in physics knows

but anyone involved in physics knows

but anyone involved in physics knows that a kind of that sort of information

that a kind of that sort of information

that a kind of that sort of information proof box is practically impossible to

proof box is practically impossible to

proof box is practically impossible to create so in reality it’s more like a

create so in reality it’s more like a

create so in reality it’s more like a vehicle for exploring the extent to

vehicle for exploring the extent to

vehicle for exploring the extent to which communication and observation

which communication and observation

which communication and observation define contemporary existence kind of to

define contemporary existence kind of to

define contemporary existence kind of to create an immersive experience for the

create an immersive experience for the

create an immersive experience for the occupant and a thought propagation for

occupant and a thought propagation for

occupant and a thought propagation for on Lucas there is a handle on the inside

on Lucas there is a handle on the inside

on Lucas there is a handle on the inside of the door so it could be pulled to but

of the door so it could be pulled to but

of the door so it could be pulled to but not on the outside so the in theory once

not on the outside so the in theory once

not on the outside so the in theory once someone is inside although that’s an

someone is inside although that’s an

someone is inside although that’s an exception of my sound for what someone’s

exception of my sound for what someone’s

exception of my sound for what someone’s inside they’re inaccessible and

inside they’re inaccessible and

inside they’re inaccessible and uncontacted all and in total control of

uncontacted all and in total control of

uncontacted all and in total control of how long they remain in that state I

how long they remain in that state I

how long they remain in that state I didn’t give anyone any instruction as to

didn’t give anyone any instruction as to

didn’t give anyone any instruction as to what to think about whilst inside as I

what to think about whilst inside as I

what to think about whilst inside as I wanted it to be a completely free space

wanted it to be a completely free space

wanted it to be a completely free space where you were just you on your own

where you were just you on your own

where you were just you on your own it’s a rare error sensation to just have

it’s a rare error sensation to just have

it’s a rare error sensation to just have nothing to do you know you kind of

nothing to do you know you kind of

nothing to do you know you kind of constantly have some way you’ve got a B

constantly have some way you’ve got a B

constantly have some way you’ve got a B or some way you’ve got to go but this

or some way you’ve got to go but this

or some way you’ve got to go but this was kind of the idea to create a space

was kind of the idea to create a space

was kind of the idea to create a space where it’s just pointless okay you know

where it’s just pointless okay you know

where it’s just pointless okay you know where there’s no there’s no there’s no

where there’s no there’s no there’s no

where there’s no there’s no there’s no task that you have to do so because I

task that you have to do so because I

task that you have to do so because I felt that that space was sort of sacred

felt that that space was sort of sacred

felt that that space was sort of sacred it seemed important not to ask people

it seemed important not to ask people

it seemed important not to ask people afterwards like what they what they were

afterwards like what they what they were

afterwards like what they what they were thinking about inside but I did want to

thinking about inside but I did want to

thinking about inside but I did want to connect people with there

connect people with there

connect people with there experiences so I took pictures of them

experiences so I took pictures of them

experiences so I took pictures of them while they were inside this is Nick this

is Kim Lee this is James he’s an

is Kim Lee this is James he’s an executor and this is Ilona

executor and this is Ilona

executor and this is Ilona it was raining that day so they

it was raining that day so they

it was raining that day so they genuinely are those people as well I

genuinely are those people as well I

genuinely are those people as well I promise they’re sort of it’s a kind of

promise they’re sort of it’s a kind of

promise they’re sort of it’s a kind of an anti portrait so we’re the subject of

an anti portrait so we’re the subject of

an anti portrait so we’re the subject of the photo is in metadata of the image

the photo is in metadata of the image

the photo is in metadata of the image and I will give people the they’re anti

and I will give people the they’re anti

and I will give people the they’re anti portraits when they when they left

portraits when they when they left

portraits when they when they left afterwards as a little memento so they

afterwards as a little memento so they

afterwards as a little memento so they can sort of connect to their experience

can sort of connect to their experience

can sort of connect to their experience inside without it being kind of directly

inside without it being kind of directly

inside without it being kind of directly recorded so it’s more of a kind of way

recorded so it’s more of a kind of way

recorded so it’s more of a kind of way of just yeah connecting to their

of just yeah connecting to their

of just yeah connecting to their isolation and it kind of compounds the

isolation and it kind of compounds the

isolation and it kind of compounds the whole idea of the project in the first

whole idea of the project in the first

whole idea of the project in the first place which is that you don’t know

place which is that you don’t know

place which is that you don’t know what’s happening inside when once the

what’s happening inside when once the

what’s happening inside when once the doors closed yeah it was dark yes so so

doors closed yeah it was dark yes so so

doors closed yeah it was dark yes so so what I thought would be nice is it sick

what I thought would be nice is it sick

what I thought would be nice is it sick is yeah so now I’m going to talk a

is yeah so now I’m going to talk a

is yeah so now I’m going to talk a little bit about briefly about my

little bit about briefly about my

little bit about briefly about my project that is downstairs and the cafe

project that is downstairs and the cafe

project that is downstairs and the cafe for you to have a look at later so I’m

for you to have a look at later so I’m

for you to have a look at later so I’m trying to create generally interactive

trying to create generally interactive

trying to create generally interactive installations where the focus is on the

installations where the focus is on the

installations where the focus is on the interaction itself and that the actual

interaction itself and that the actual

interaction itself and that the actual interaction is the sort of artwork so

interaction is the sort of artwork so

interaction is the sort of artwork so it’s like creating frameworks or systems

it’s like creating frameworks or systems

it’s like creating frameworks or systems for an experience so when that the honor

for an experience so when that the honor

for an experience so when that the honor of being invited to the artist in

of being invited to the artist in

of being invited to the artist in residence at the Courtauld I took a tour

residence at the Courtauld I took a tour

residence at the Courtauld I took a tour around the building for the first time

around the building for the first time

around the building for the first time ever and found all the corridors

ever and found all the corridors

ever and found all the corridors corridors and the seminar rooms were

corridors and the seminar rooms were

corridors and the seminar rooms were sort of lined with line with paintings

sort of lined with line with paintings

sort of lined with line with paintings and draw

and draw

and draw and there was just there was a lot but

and there was just there was a lot but

and there was just there was a lot but there was nothing in the cafe and that

there was nothing in the cafe and that

there was nothing in the cafe and that kind of surprised me a little bit

kind of surprised me a little bit

kind of surprised me a little bit because and the fact that it’s kind of

because and the fact that it’s kind of

because and the fact that it’s kind of relatively busy there I thought that’d

relatively busy there I thought that’d

relatively busy there I thought that’d be an interesting place to to install so

be an interesting place to to install so

be an interesting place to to install so open it is an invitation to interact

open it is an invitation to interact

open it is an invitation to interact physically with the artwork a lot of my

physically with the artwork a lot of my

physically with the artwork a lot of my projects have involved boxes in some way

projects have involved boxes in some way

projects have involved boxes in some way and there’s just something that is quite

and there’s just something that is quite

and there’s just something that is quite compelling about them you never really

compelling about them you never really

compelling about them you never really know you never really know what’s inside

know you never really know what’s inside

know you never really know what’s inside you either kind of have your

you either kind of have your

you either kind of have your expectations confirmed or you’re

expectations confirmed or you’re

expectations confirmed or you’re surprised so the way this installation

surprised so the way this installation

surprised so the way this installation works is to give you something

works is to give you something

works is to give you something unexpected every time you engage with it

unexpected every time you engage with it

unexpected every time you engage with it each interaction is so opening literally

each interaction is so opening literally

each interaction is so opening literally lifting the lid is recorded and then

lifting the lid is recorded and then

lifting the lid is recorded and then added to a continually expanding archive

added to a continually expanding archive

added to a continually expanding archive of content each time you open it you see

of content each time you open it you see

of content each time you open it you see one of those intellectuals randomly

one of those intellectuals randomly

one of those intellectuals randomly chosen free dancing yes so there is a

chosen free dancing yes so there is a

chosen free dancing yes so there is a kind of trade-off much in the same way

kind of trade-off much in the same way

kind of trade-off much in the same way there are interactions in the internet

there are interactions in the internet

there are interactions in the internet on the internet rather have a sort of

on the internet rather have a sort of

on the internet rather have a sort of cost so when you access websites you

cost so when you access websites you

cost so when you access websites you will also kind of recorded yourself and

will also kind of recorded yourself and

will also kind of recorded yourself and you kind of give away your own data just

you kind of give away your own data just

you kind of give away your own data just by accessing things there’s also a kind

by accessing things there’s also a kind

by accessing things there’s also a kind of sense of intimacy and almost kind of

of sense of intimacy and almost kind of

of sense of intimacy and almost kind of voyeurism that you somehow seeing a

voyeurism that you somehow seeing a

voyeurism that you somehow seeing a person quite close up in a very similar

person quite close up in a very similar

person quite close up in a very similar position to yourself knowing that

position to yourself knowing that

position to yourself knowing that they’ve done exactly the same thing that

they’ve done exactly the same thing that

they’ve done exactly the same thing that you’ve done just before so I’ll leave

you’ve done just before so I’ll leave

you’ve done just before so I’ll leave you with just a few of the interactions

you with just a few of the interactions

you with just a few of the interactions recorded so far

thank you very much

thank you very much you

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