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weekly web show we’re different captains will join us and give their take on the

will join us and give their take on the

will join us and give their take on the latest episode employee we have a lot to

latest episode employee we have a lot to

latest episode employee we have a lot to talk about on this one my name is Mike

talk about on this one my name is Mike

talk about on this one my name is Mike sulk I’ll be your host today joining us

sulk I’ll be your host today joining us

sulk I’ll be your host today joining us this week captain TJ OTT of the hot tuna

this week captain TJ OTT of the hot tuna

this week captain TJ OTT of the hot tuna captain Tyler McLaughlin of the pinwheel

captain Tyler McLaughlin of the pinwheel

captain Tyler McLaughlin of the pinwheel and of course captain Dave Ferraro the

and of course captain Dave Ferraro the

and of course captain Dave Ferraro the fishing vessel tuna.com guys welcome to

fishing vessel tuna.com guys welcome to

fishing vessel tuna.com guys welcome to the show and Tyler Dave I’m glad we were

the show and Tyler Dave I’m glad we were

the show and Tyler Dave I’m glad we were able to get you guys sitting next to

able to get you guys sitting next to

able to get you guys sitting next to each other kind of a tough moment

each other kind of a tough moment

each other kind of a tough moment between you two at the end want to give

between you two at the end want to give

between you two at the end want to give you both a chance to explain what you

you both a chance to explain what you

you both a chance to explain what you think happened and look Dave we saw kind

think happened and look Dave we saw kind

think happened and look Dave we saw kind of a bad week for you everything just

of a bad week for you everything just

of a bad week for you everything just seemed to be going wrong all the fish

seemed to be going wrong all the fish

seemed to be going wrong all the fish seemed to fall off the line for whatever

seemed to fall off the line for whatever

seemed to fall off the line for whatever reason you’re dealing with pink slime

reason you’re dealing with pink slime

reason you’re dealing with pink slime then you get Tyler coming around your

then you get Tyler coming around your

then you get Tyler coming around your boat how are you feeling at the end not

boat how are you feeling at the end not

boat how are you feeling at the end not feeling very good you know bad week of

feeling very good you know bad week of

feeling very good you know bad week of fishing and I got a deal with him just

fishing and I got a deal with him just

fishing and I got a deal with him just uh just a combination for a recipe for

uh just a combination for a recipe for

uh just a combination for a recipe for disaster right now you used the phrase

disaster right now you used the phrase

disaster right now you used the phrase bad kid you think Tyler is a bad kid not

bad kid you think Tyler is a bad kid not

bad kid you think Tyler is a bad kid not a bad kid he’s a bad adult what does

a bad kid he’s a bad adult what does

a bad kid he’s a bad adult what does that mean give me a little more you know

that mean give me a little more you know

that mean give me a little more you know I mean tied Tyler’s Tyler you know I’ve

I mean tied Tyler’s Tyler you know I’ve

I mean tied Tyler’s Tyler you know I’ve always gave him a credit he’s a good

always gave him a credit he’s a good

always gave him a credit he’s a good fisherman he knows what’s going on he

fisherman he knows what’s going on he

fisherman he knows what’s going on he catches fish but if he would mature a

catches fish but if he would mature a

catches fish but if he would mature a little bit I think he’d be that much

little bit I think he’d be that much

little bit I think he’d be that much more of a better person he’s not a kid

more of a better person he’s not a kid

more of a better person he’s not a kid he’s an adult it just needs to grow up

he’s an adult it just needs to grow up

he’s an adult it just needs to grow up did you think this was the one were you

did you think this was the one were you

did you think this was the one were you gonna try to get through to him and was

gonna try to get through to him and was

gonna try to get through to him and was this your most mature moment I’m just

this your most mature moment I’m just

this your most mature moment I’m just reacting like anybody else would have

reacting like anybody else would have

reacting like anybody else would have reacted and Tyler from your side of it

reacted and Tyler from your side of it

reacted and Tyler from your side of it you know you say Dave takes life too

you know you say Dave takes life too

you know you say Dave takes life too seriously is the line you said there in

seriously is the line you said there in

seriously is the line you said there in the show why why go mess with somebody

the show why why go mess with somebody

the show why why go mess with somebody that you know isn’t gonna have fun with

that you know isn’t gonna have fun with

that you know isn’t gonna have fun with it

it

it well you know fishings like good release

well you know fishings like good release

well you know fishings like good release for me it’s something should have fun

for me it’s something should have fun

for me it’s something should have fun with and the guys saying it so serious

with and the guys saying it so serious

with and the guys saying it so serious he’s on good numbers and you know after

he’s on good numbers and you know after

he’s on good numbers and you know after the season he put me through last year

the season he put me through last year

the season he put me through last year he really handed me my butt and you know

he really handed me my butt and you know

he really handed me my butt and you know we’re really stinking the would knew him

we’re really stinking the would knew him

we’re really stinking the would knew him this season so we’re trying to catch a

this season so we’re trying to catch a

this season so we’re trying to catch a lot of fish I mean that’s the only way

lot of fish I mean that’s the only way

lot of fish I mean that’s the only way you’re gonna really get it this guy’s if

you’re gonna really get it this guy’s if

you’re gonna really get it this guy’s if you want to push his buttons is you got

you want to push his buttons is you got

you want to push his buttons is you got to put meat on the dock you think you

to put meat on the dock you think you

to put meat on the dock you think you got to push his buttons yeah definitely

got to push his buttons yeah definitely

got to push his buttons yeah definitely you know he’s my biggest competitor on

you know he’s my biggest competitor on

you know he’s my biggest competitor on the show we’ve been going head-to-head

the show we’ve been going head-to-head

the show we’ve been going head-to-head for a while and you know it’s really

for a while and you know it’s really

for a while and you know it’s really important to me that I out fish him

important to me that I out fish him

important to me that I out fish him every year that’s what I mean if you’re

every year that’s what I mean if you’re

every year that’s what I mean if you’re gonna make a statement don’t attempt to

gonna make a statement don’t attempt to

gonna make a statement don’t attempt to trash my poly ball catch fish make a

trash my poly ball catch fish make a

trash my poly ball catch fish make a statement Ollie I do catch it

statement Ollie I do catch it

statement Ollie I do catch it – catch fish make your statement that

– catch fish make your statement that

– catch fish make your statement that way oh you know it’s just fun it’s fun

way oh you know it’s just fun it’s fun

way oh you know it’s just fun it’s fun once you go roll up I know I don’t want

once you go roll up I know I don’t want

once you go roll up I know I don’t want to grow up just I seen to me you grow up

to grow up just I seen to me you grow up

to grow up just I seen to me you grow up grown-ups having no fun I like laughing

grown-ups having no fun I like laughing

grown-ups having no fun I like laughing and having a good time and not taking

and having a good time and not taking

and having a good time and not taking too much serious I see that when when

too much serious I see that when when

too much serious I see that when when you watch are you you say very clearly

you watch are you you say very clearly

you watch are you you say very clearly in the show that you believe he’s he’s

in the show that you believe he’s he’s

in the show that you believe he’s he’s trying to go pop your ankle ball on

trying to go pop your ankle ball on

trying to go pop your ankle ball on purpose and you can hear him say hey

purpose and you can hear him say hey

purpose and you can hear him say hey we’re gonna go mess with them and have a

we’re gonna go mess with them and have a

we’re gonna go mess with them and have a good time

good time

good time how do you feel watching it back later I

how do you feel watching it back later I

how do you feel watching it back later I don’t see that but you know anything

don’t see that but you know anything

don’t see that but you know anything that he does this mischievous as far as

that he does this mischievous as far as

that he does this mischievous as far as I’m concerned is considered a threat I

I’m concerned is considered a threat I

I’m concerned is considered a threat I saw what he did there I know what he’s

saw what he did there I know what he’s

saw what he did there I know what he’s done in the past and I know what he’s

done in the past and I know what he’s

done in the past and I know what he’s capable of doing in the future

capable of doing in the future

capable of doing in the future that’s insane if I think he grows up

that’s insane if I think he grows up

that’s insane if I think he grows up I’ll respect them more I respect him as

I’ll respect them more I respect him as

I’ll respect them more I respect him as a fisherman but I don’t respect him as a

a fisherman but I don’t respect him as a

a fisherman but I don’t respect him as a person TJ you’re not really a fighter

person TJ you’re not really a fighter

person TJ you’re not really a fighter from all that I’ve gathered about you

from all that I’ve gathered about you

from all that I’ve gathered about you how do you feel watching these two guys

how do you feel watching these two guys

how do you feel watching these two guys get after it

get after it

get after it it was pretty comical I mean it’s a poly

it was pretty comical I mean it’s a poly

it was pretty comical I mean it’s a poly Bowl Massacre man yeah III you know

Bowl Massacre man yeah III you know

Bowl Massacre man yeah III you know whatever I understand I was trying to

whatever I understand I was trying to

whatever I understand I was trying to mess with a guy and Dave is doing what

mess with a guy and Dave is doing what

mess with a guy and Dave is doing what he thinks he has to do but I want no

he thinks he has to do but I want no

he thinks he has to do but I want no part of it it’s baby stuff as far as I’m

part of it it’s baby stuff as far as I’m

part of it it’s baby stuff as far as I’m concerned him you choose sides on

concerned him you choose sides on

concerned him you choose sides on something like that I mean you know both

something like that I mean you know both

something like that I mean you know both these guys pretty well I know man I’m

these guys pretty well I know man I’m

these guys pretty well I know man I’m Switzerland I’m in the middle I don’t

Switzerland I’m in the middle I don’t

Switzerland I’m in the middle I don’t you know honestly toddler was messing

you know honestly toddler was messing

you know honestly toddler was messing with him Dave took the wrong way but you

with him Dave took the wrong way but you

with him Dave took the wrong way but you know I’m just glad I wasn’t involved in

know I’m just glad I wasn’t involved in

know I’m just glad I wasn’t involved in it so your first doc confrontation no no

it so your first doc confrontation no no

it so your first doc confrontation no no you know I’m not friend enough for any

you know I’m not friend enough for any

you know I’m not friend enough for any of us he’ll be more than just a says

of us he’ll be more than just a says

of us he’ll be more than just a says that’s that’s just part of fishing

that’s that’s just part of fishing

that’s that’s just part of fishing whether it’s with him or somebody else

whether it’s with him or somebody else

whether it’s with him or somebody else TJ’s been in he’s been in it other good

TJ’s been in he’s been in it other good

TJ’s been in he’s been in it other good hit where Paulie I mean we’ve been we

hit where Paulie I mean we’ve been we

hit where Paulie I mean we’ve been we were like playing around there like I

were like playing around there like I

were like playing around there like I was trying to just razz him I didn’t

was trying to just razz him I didn’t

was trying to just razz him I didn’t know I was gonna make it that extreme

know I was gonna make it that extreme

know I was gonna make it that extreme it’s actually Ralph yeah definitely I

it’s actually Ralph yeah definitely I

it’s actually Ralph yeah definitely I got about that why another that wasn’t

got about that why another that wasn’t

got about that why another that wasn’t my fault

my fault

my fault again I don’t know that you liked Ralph

again I don’t know that you liked Ralph

again I don’t know that you liked Ralph the black cloud of the fight my

the black cloud of the fight my

the black cloud of the fight my background with what happened there I

background with what happened there I

background with what happened there I hear you but you know when you’re trying

hear you but you know when you’re trying

hear you but you know when you’re trying to have a good time and some we’re all

to have a good time and some we’re all

to have a good time and some we’re all out there fishing when you spend your so

out there fishing when you spend your so

out there fishing when you spend your so many days on the water it’s nice to

many days on the water it’s nice to

many days on the water it’s nice to interject with other boats and I kind of

interject with other boats and I kind of

interject with other boats and I kind of enjoy by the way but those two good

enjoy by the way but those two good

enjoy by the way but those two good times you had didn’t turn out too well

times you had didn’t turn out too well

times you had didn’t turn out too well did they yeah they’re fine I mean I

did they yeah they’re fine I mean I

did they yeah they’re fine I mean I ended up just fine I mean I’ve been

ended up just fine I mean I’ve been

ended up just fine I mean I’ve been doing all my talking with tail ropes you

doing all my talking with tail ropes you

doing all my talking with tail ropes you didn’t end up fine you ended up on your

didn’t end up fine you ended up on your

didn’t end up fine you ended up on your back one time you got a poly ball on the

back one time you got a poly ball on the

back one time you got a poly ball on the face the second time that’s pretty sure

face the second time that’s pretty sure

face the second time that’s pretty sure it wasn’t that great boss well lesson

it wasn’t that great boss well lesson

it wasn’t that great boss well lesson learned let’s move on did you’re pretty

learned let’s move on did you’re pretty

learned let’s move on did you’re pretty just the last thing you’re pretty calm

just the last thing you’re pretty calm

just the last thing you’re pretty calm guy I mean I think that’s what sort of

guy I mean I think that’s what sort of

guy I mean I think that’s what sort of jumps out here it’s not just seeing two

jumps out here it’s not just seeing two

jumps out here it’s not just seeing two guys fight on the dock and the fact that

guys fight on the dock and the fact that

guys fight on the dock and the fact that there’s an anchor ball involve certainly

there’s an anchor ball involve certainly

there’s an anchor ball involve certainly adds the comedy foul

adds the comedy foul

adds the comedy foul for me but what is it that actually got

for me but what is it that actually got

for me but what is it that actually got under your skin regardless of what it is

under your skin regardless of what it is

under your skin regardless of what it is you know when you poke the high up is he

you know when you poke the high up is he

you know when you poke the high up is he gonna get stung by the bee and hey you

gonna get stung by the bee and hey you

gonna get stung by the bee and hey you know what you saw there was just part of

know what you saw there was just part of

know what you saw there was just part of it there’s a little more to it than that

it there’s a little more to it than that

it there’s a little more to it than that there’s a lot of other little of

there’s a lot of other little of

there’s a lot of other little of occurrences that did happen but that was

occurrences that did happen but that was

occurrences that did happen but that was just the the straw that broke the county

just the the straw that broke the county

just the the straw that broke the county was enough it– that doesn’t count

was enough it– that doesn’t count

was enough it– that doesn’t count i-i’ve seen guys fight that that was

i-i’ve seen guys fight that that was

i-i’ve seen guys fight that that was kind of like two girls bickering in the

kind of like two girls bickering in the

kind of like two girls bickering in the bathroom I got like that was a fight

bathroom I got like that was a fight

bathroom I got like that was a fight when I went in when it comes to me I’ll

when I went in when it comes to me I’ll

when I went in when it comes to me I’ll tell you I think it’s just you know Dave

tell you I think it’s just you know Dave

tell you I think it’s just you know Dave definitely sees me as a big threat he

definitely sees me as a big threat he

definitely sees me as a big threat he you know to him it’s all about he’s got

you know to him it’s all about he’s got

you know to him it’s all about he’s got to be the best year in year out and I

to be the best year in year out and I

to be the best year in year out and I think that when I’m on my game I can

think that when I’m on my game I can

think that when I’m on my game I can take him off being the top boat and that

take him off being the top boat and that

take him off being the top boat and that really drives him nuts

really drives him nuts

really drives him nuts I don’t know he smoked this last year

I don’t know he smoked this last year

I don’t know he smoked this last year you gotta give him that and see today

you gotta give him that and see today

you gotta give him that and see today two years ago yeah he did he stuck to it

two years ago yeah he did he stuck to it

two years ago yeah he did he stuck to it did my job it was five times as good if

did my job it was five times as good if

did my job it was five times as good if you did 3 times 5 15 I mean listen I got

you did 3 times 5 15 I mean listen I got

you did 3 times 5 15 I mean listen I got a batch of pneumonias in the hospital I

a batch of pneumonias in the hospital I

a batch of pneumonias in the hospital I was sick as a dog while you were

was sick as a dog while you were

was sick as a dog while you were catching fish so I was even on the water

catching fish so I was even on the water

catching fish so I was even on the water so like a man excuses well if I’m not

so like a man excuses well if I’m not

so like a man excuses well if I’m not out there it’s kind of hard it’s not a

out there it’s kind of hard it’s not a

out there it’s kind of hard it’s not a Polly boy around here anywhere is it no

Polly boy around here anywhere is it no

Polly boy around here anywhere is it no I think we’re all safe Oh somebody goes

I think we’re all safe Oh somebody goes

I think we’re all safe Oh somebody goes after some with a mug I’m jumping out of

after some with a mug I’m jumping out of

after some with a mug I’m jumping out of the way I’ll tell you that right now

the way I’ll tell you that right now

the way I’ll tell you that right now obviously this news was gonna travel

obviously this news was gonna travel

obviously this news was gonna travel throughout the fleet and how does this

throughout the fleet and how does this

throughout the fleet and how does this divide the fleet how was this news

divide the fleet how was this news

divide the fleet how was this news received elsewhere it got around pretty

received elsewhere it got around pretty

received elsewhere it got around pretty pretty quickly I think what the minutes

pretty quickly I think what the minutes

pretty quickly I think what the minutes people are starting to talk about it

people are starting to talk about it

people are starting to talk about it people love it they feed on it – I love

people love it they feed on it – I love

people love it they feed on it – I love interaction I mean listen a lot of

interaction I mean listen a lot of

interaction I mean listen a lot of people want to see these two guys fail –

people want to see these two guys fail –

people want to see these two guys fail – they both catch a lot of fish and

they both catch a lot of fish and

they both catch a lot of fish and there’s a lot of people that don’t catch

there’s a lot of people that don’t catch

there’s a lot of people that don’t catch nearly as many so you know when they

nearly as many so you know when they

nearly as many so you know when they hear stuff like that they live and I

hear stuff like that they live and I

hear stuff like that they live and I think it’s great you know they they find

think it’s great you know they they find

think it’s great you know they they find you know happiness in their drama I mean

you know happiness in their drama I mean

you know happiness in their drama I mean come on you’re gonna tell me that like

come on you’re gonna tell me that like

come on you’re gonna tell me that like if you’re like some of the top producers

if you’re like some of the top producers

if you’re like some of the top producers in your industry you’re not gonna go

in your industry you’re not gonna go

in your industry you’re not gonna go head-to-head with your biggest

head-to-head with your biggest

head-to-head with your biggest competition you’re not gonna poke at

competition you’re not gonna poke at

competition you’re not gonna poke at them as I am that’s how I get in your

them as I am that’s how I get in your

them as I am that’s how I get in your head it’s like a tennis match I’m doing

head it’s like a tennis match I’m doing

head it’s like a tennis match I’m doing everything I can to try and make a play

everything I can to try and make a play

everything I can to try and make a play to get you to react or drop your game

to get you to react or drop your game

to get you to react or drop your game just a little ass bit and my whole goal

just a little ass bit and my whole goal

just a little ass bit and my whole goal this year was to get inside Dave’s head

this year was to get inside Dave’s head

this year was to get inside Dave’s head and I wanted to do it from day one

and I wanted to do it from day one

and I wanted to do it from day one because I knew I was gonna catch a lot

because I knew I was gonna catch a lot

because I knew I was gonna catch a lot of fish and I think I did a good job

of fish and I think I did a good job

of fish and I think I did a good job doing that cuz when he paid me a visit I

doing that cuz when he paid me a visit I

doing that cuz when he paid me a visit I knew I was in his head I knew that take

knew I was in his head I knew that take

knew I was in his head I knew that take him off his game fishing did it take you

him off his game fishing did it take you

him off his game fishing did it take you off your game Dave I mean let’s do

off your game Dave I mean let’s do

off your game Dave I mean let’s do anything – if I doing that it just makes

anything – if I doing that it just makes

anything – if I doing that it just makes me even more motive it makes me want to

me even more motive it makes me want to

me even more motive it makes me want to succeed even more why is this happening

succeed even more why is this happening

succeed even more why is this happening so much in in fishing if I see this guy

so much in in fishing if I see this guy

so much in in fishing if I see this guy catch a fish next to me I’m pissed and

catch a fish next to me I’m pissed and

catch a fish next to me I’m pissed and I’m really upset about it so I think

I’m really upset about it so I think

I’m really upset about it so I think there’s a real high stakes and this

there’s a real high stakes and this

there’s a real high stakes and this these fish are worth a lot of patience

these fish are worth a lot of patience

these fish are worth a lot of patience I stress and when everybody’s a nice

I stress and when everybody’s a nice

I stress and when everybody’s a nice dresser and their short fuse

dresser and their short fuse

dresser and their short fuse is it the waiting is that what does a

is it the waiting is that what does a

is it the waiting is that what does a time add the more I watch the more I see

time add the more I watch the more I see

time add the more I watch the more I see you guys out there and just think about

you guys out there and just think about

you guys out there and just think about you know we’re watching it in the course

you know we’re watching it in the course

you know we’re watching it in the course of an hour a week boil down into an hour

of an hour a week boil down into an hour

of an hour a week boil down into an hour and I think about how much time you must

and I think about how much time you must

and I think about how much time you must spend just sitting and waiting to hear

spend just sitting and waiting to hear

spend just sitting and waiting to hear that beep that’s the thing of the

that beep that’s the thing of the

that beep that’s the thing of the marketing I uh I would think it would

marketing I uh I would think it would

marketing I uh I would think it would kind of start to get on your skin a

kind of start to get on your skin a

kind of start to get on your skin a little bit yep we do because it’s a

little bit yep we do because it’s a

little bit yep we do because it’s a labor of passion we love it you know but

labor of passion we love it you know but

labor of passion we love it you know but uh moments like that definitely as well

uh moments like that definitely as well

uh moments like that definitely as well we could see it fishing is definitely a

we could see it fishing is definitely a

we could see it fishing is definitely a tough game as we’ve seen in the first

tough game as we’ve seen in the first

tough game as we’ve seen in the first two episodes this year of wicked tuna

two episodes this year of wicked tuna

two episodes this year of wicked tuna things don’t always go according to plan

things don’t always go according to plan

things don’t always go according to plan for every single boat Dave you won big

for every single boat Dave you won big

for every single boat Dave you won big last year right and and just a really it

last year right and and just a really it

last year right and and just a really it seemed like everything came together for

seemed like everything came together for

seemed like everything came together for you

you

you Tyler’s come out very hot at the

Tyler’s come out very hot at the

Tyler’s come out very hot at the beginning of this year a very strong

beginning of this year a very strong

beginning of this year a very strong start and he’s actually ahead of you

start and he’s actually ahead of you

start and he’s actually ahead of you first two weeks of fishing Tyler’s

first two weeks of fishing Tyler’s

first two weeks of fishing Tyler’s already caught for tuna TJ you’ve caught

already caught for tuna TJ you’ve caught

already caught for tuna TJ you’ve caught three you’ve only managed to have one

three you’ve only managed to have one

three you’ve only managed to have one fish so far Dave almost all the fleet’s

fish so far Dave almost all the fleet’s

fish so far Dave almost all the fleet’s ahead of you how much pressure does that

ahead of you how much pressure does that

ahead of you how much pressure does that put on you it’s a lot of pressure you

put on you it’s a lot of pressure you

put on you it’s a lot of pressure you know we want to be that top boat and

know we want to be that top boat and

know we want to be that top boat and being this far behind it’s gonna be it’s

being this far behind it’s gonna be it’s

being this far behind it’s gonna be it’s gonna be quite a feat to try and get

gonna be quite a feat to try and get

gonna be quite a feat to try and get back and get to where they are and

back and get to where they are and

back and get to where they are and bypass them but you know it’s not how

bypass them but you know it’s not how

bypass them but you know it’s not how many fish you have now it’s not how many

many fish you have now it’s not how many

many fish you have now it’s not how many fish you have in a week it’s what you

fish you have in a week it’s what you

fish you have in a week it’s what you have at the end of the year that matters

have at the end of the year that matters

have at the end of the year that matters we still got a long way to go and we can

we still got a long way to go and we can

we still got a long way to go and we can make it happen

make it happen

make it happen how up-and-down is this business I mean

how up-and-down is this business I mean

how up-and-down is this business I mean it again I’m seeing it on this show

it again I’m seeing it on this show

it again I’m seeing it on this show it’s the worst come on why is it is it I

it’s the worst come on why is it is it I

it’s the worst come on why is it is it I mean that that’s why I wonder about the

mean that that’s why I wonder about the

mean that that’s why I wonder about the luck thing I mean does the effort change

luck thing I mean does the effort change

luck thing I mean does the effort change year to year or is it just sort of the

year to year or is it just sort of the

year to year or is it just sort of the up and down luck of the season something

up and down luck of the season something

up and down luck of the season something yeah it’s no I mean you’re not always

yeah it’s no I mean you’re not always

yeah it’s no I mean you’re not always gonna be the top oh you can’t always win

gonna be the top oh you can’t always win

gonna be the top oh you can’t always win a Super Bowl you know sometimes you

a Super Bowl you know sometimes you

a Super Bowl you know sometimes you should have went north when you should

should have went north when you should

should have went north when you should you know when you went south sometimes

you know when you went south sometimes

you know when you went south sometimes you should have went east when you

you should have went east when you

you should have went east when you should have went west you know sometimes

should have went west you know sometimes

should have went west you know sometimes you just don’t make all the right moves

you just don’t make all the right moves

you just don’t make all the right moves and you know Tyler last year was a

and you know Tyler last year was a

and you know Tyler last year was a perfect example perfect example of that

perfect example perfect example of that

perfect example perfect example of that but that might change this year you

but that might change this year you

but that might change this year you never know

never know

never know yes a lot of that suit the mood on the

yes a lot of that suit the mood on the

yes a lot of that suit the mood on the boat too if you get a couple fish on

boat too if you get a couple fish on

boat too if you get a couple fish on deck early and the mood on the boat is

deck early and the mood on the boat is

deck early and the mood on the boat is good your guys are happy and you feel

good your guys are happy and you feel

good your guys are happy and you feel like you’re pointing in the right

like you’re pointing in the right

like you’re pointing in the right direction it the rod seems to bend a lot

direction it the rod seems to bend a lot

direction it the rod seems to bend a lot easier but if you get you know in a funk

easier but if you get you know in a funk

easier but if you get you know in a funk right out of the gate sometimes it’s

right out of the gate sometimes it’s

right out of the gate sometimes it’s just

just

just you know you Dan you never feel like

you know you Dan you never feel like

you know you Dan you never feel like you’re gonna get it back and I’ve been

you’re gonna get it back and I’ve been

you’re gonna get it back and I’ve been on that end of it as well and all you

on that end of it as well and all you

on that end of it as well and all you guys have different mates or around you

guys have different mates or around you

guys have different mates or around you at some point this year how important is

at some point this year how important is

at some point this year how important is getting that chemistry right so that as

getting that chemistry right so that as

getting that chemistry right so that as you said the vibe is good you and you’re

you said the vibe is good you and you’re

you said the vibe is good you and you’re just sitting there waiting it’s huge

just sitting there waiting it’s huge

just sitting there waiting it’s huge if everyone isn’t on the same page

if everyone isn’t on the same page

if everyone isn’t on the same page things can go bad quick definitely it’s

things can go bad quick definitely it’s

things can go bad quick definitely it’s tough I mean I’m gonna I go through

tough I mean I’m gonna I go through

tough I mean I’m gonna I go through mates all the time it’s hard to find a

mates all the time it’s hard to find a

mates all the time it’s hard to find a young kid like my age so I want you

young kid like my age so I want you

young kid like my age so I want you cause you really are spending the time

cause you really are spending the time

cause you really are spending the time living with that person on the boat for

living with that person on the boat for

living with that person on the boat for you know six months at a wack and it’s

you know six months at a wack and it’s

you know six months at a wack and it’s hard to find a person you can do that

hard to find a person you can do that

hard to find a person you can do that year and in year out and with me I

year and in year out and with me I

year and in year out and with me I literally put the person on my boat and

literally put the person on my boat and

literally put the person on my boat and take them pakrac living all around New

take them pakrac living all around New

take them pakrac living all around New England to me go fishing wherever we got

England to me go fishing wherever we got

England to me go fishing wherever we got to go and it’s just it’s hard to me to

to go and it’s just it’s hard to me to

to go and it’s just it’s hard to me to find kids that don’t want to just sleep

find kids that don’t want to just sleep

find kids that don’t want to just sleep 24 hours a day like I mean it’s

24 hours a day like I mean it’s

24 hours a day like I mean it’s impossible that I can’t get a kid to

impossible that I can’t get a kid to

impossible that I can’t get a kid to stay up at night if no matter how what I

stay up at night if no matter how what I

stay up at night if no matter how what I pay him or what I offer him for

pay him or what I offer him for

pay him or what I offer him for incentives it’s tough alright well

incentives it’s tough alright well

incentives it’s tough alright well speaking of deckhands and new deckhands

speaking of deckhands and new deckhands

speaking of deckhands and new deckhands tju uh we get to meet a new mate of

tju uh we get to meet a new mate of

tju uh we get to meet a new mate of yours

yours

yours this year that’s your brother Mike and

this year that’s your brother Mike and

this year that’s your brother Mike and we’re quite a bit about back in the day

we’re quite a bit about back in the day

we’re quite a bit about back in the day there’s like punches being thrown yeah

there’s like punches being thrown yeah

there’s like punches being thrown yeah please and can you guys coexist together

please and can you guys coexist together

please and can you guys coexist together out there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we

out there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we

out there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we can we can’t you know he’s a very strong

can we can’t you know he’s a very strong

can we can’t you know he’s a very strong personality he’s very stubborn and I

personality he’s very stubborn and I

personality he’s very stubborn and I never dreamed I would be honestly

never dreamed I would be honestly

never dreamed I would be honestly fishing with him like I did this year

fishing with him like I did this year

fishing with him like I did this year why because we’re very different

why because we’re very different

why because we’re very different he’s very out yeah he gets very aggro

he’s very out yeah he gets very aggro

he’s very out yeah he gets very aggro and very aggressive quick you know where

and very aggressive quick you know where

and very aggressive quick you know where I’m kind of like thinking through and

I’m kind of like thinking through and

I’m kind of like thinking through and Michael came out of the gate very slow

Michael came out of the gate very slow

Michael came out of the gate very slow you know he was kind of like a zombie

you know he was kind of like a zombie

you know he was kind of like a zombie he’s caught lots of fish with me in the

he’s caught lots of fish with me in the

he’s caught lots of fish with me in the past he hasn’t done it years we brought

past he hasn’t done it years we brought

past he hasn’t done it years we brought him on board this year thinking hey we

him on board this year thinking hey we

him on board this year thinking hey we shake things up a little bit and I

shake things up a little bit and I

shake things up a little bit and I definitely questioned it in the

definitely questioned it in the

definitely questioned it in the beginning for sure I like when the rod

beginning for sure I like when the rod

beginning for sure I like when the rod bends none of us had to say word you

bends none of us had to say word you

bends none of us had to say word you know everyone knows where I hate and

know everyone knows where I hate and

know everyone knows where I hate and when it comes to the time to dart the

when it comes to the time to dart the

when it comes to the time to dart the fish tail row of the fish everyone knows

fish tail row of the fish everyone knows

fish tail row of the fish everyone knows where everything is and and Michael was

where everything is and and Michael was

where everything is and and Michael was definitely slow to that it’ll come it’ll

definitely slow to that it’ll come it’ll

definitely slow to that it’ll come it’ll come there’s no doubt I mean Dave when

come there’s no doubt I mean Dave when

come there’s no doubt I mean Dave when you watch your bow when you guys are

you watch your bow when you guys are

you watch your bow when you guys are catching fish it seems to be the comest

catching fish it seems to be the comest

catching fish it seems to be the comest of any of the boats that they’re

of any of the boats that they’re

of any of the boats that they’re automatically they spent together the

automatically they spent together the

automatically they spent together the longest you know I mean I know the

longest you know I mean I know the

longest you know I mean I know the second he knows what I’m thinking

second he knows what I’m thinking

second he knows what I’m thinking cassaundra has been on a boat for seven

cassaundra has been on a boat for seven

cassaundra has been on a boat for seven years now you know it’s just it’s your

years now you know it’s just it’s your

years now you know it’s just it’s your limit peanut butter he’s thinking peanut

limit peanut butter he’s thinking peanut

limit peanut butter he’s thinking peanut butter

butter

butter what you guys almost never seem to be at

what you guys almost never seem to be at

what you guys almost never seem to be at odds with each other or we’re on the

odds with each other or we’re on the

odds with each other or we’re on the same page we’re on the same page you

same page we’re on the same page you

same page we’re on the same page you know when I hired Sandro Sandro never

know when I hired Sandro Sandro never

know when I hired Sandro Sandro never fished he never really has been on a

fished he never really has been on a

fished he never really has been on a boat before

boat before

boat before and when I hire people I like to get

and when I hire people I like to get

and when I hire people I like to get someone with no experience this way I

someone with no experience this way I

someone with no experience this way I can condition /mo them the way I want

can condition /mo them the way I want

can condition /mo them the way I want this way you get a mini Dave what we

this way you get a mini Dave what we

this way you get a mini Dave what we want is that good for the fleet or bad

want is that good for the fleet or bad

want is that good for the fleet or bad fellow and I don’t want one of that

fellow and I don’t want one of that

fellow and I don’t want one of that litter DJ well I don’t know if we’re

litter DJ well I don’t know if we’re

litter DJ well I don’t know if we’re getting mini Tyler’s I mean again more

getting mini Tyler’s I mean again more

getting mini Tyler’s I mean again more more new as you said you’d like to bring

more new as you said you’d like to bring

more new as you said you’d like to bring in different people because it’s hard to

in different people because it’s hard to

in different people because it’s hard to find the right person do you feel like

find the right person do you feel like

find the right person do you feel like you you’re getting closer this year to

you you’re getting closer this year to

you you’re getting closer this year to finding the right kind of guy for your

finding the right kind of guy for your

finding the right kind of guy for your boat yeah Travis has been is really

boat yeah Travis has been is really

boat yeah Travis has been is really stepping up to the plate for ministries

stepping up to the plate for ministries

stepping up to the plate for ministries he’s on his game he’s fished a lot in

he’s on his game he’s fished a lot in

he’s on his game he’s fished a lot in his life he just never fished her big

his life he just never fished her big

his life he just never fished her big bluefin tunas before so it’s definitely

bluefin tunas before so it’s definitely

bluefin tunas before so it’s definitely been a good experience to try and mould

been a good experience to try and mould

been a good experience to try and mould him but he’s definitely see some habits

him but he’s definitely see some habits

him but he’s definitely see some habits that he’s already developed that are

that he’s already developed that are

that he’s already developed that are trying to wearing me like what sleeping

trying to wearing me like what sleeping

trying to wearing me like what sleeping you just how much do you do not sleep

you just how much do you do not sleep

you just how much do you do not sleep are you one of these guys who’s like

are you one of these guys who’s like

are you one of these guys who’s like twenty-two everyday like but like the

twenty-two everyday like but like the

twenty-two everyday like but like the captain’s gonna figure out when the fish

captain’s gonna figure out when the fish

captain’s gonna figure out when the fish are coming through and we kind of sleep

are coming through and we kind of sleep

are coming through and we kind of sleep around when we need to be productive and

around when we need to be productive and

around when we need to be productive and you’re gonna get your mates to step up

you’re gonna get your mates to step up

you’re gonna get your mates to step up during that period of time cuz you can

during that period of time cuz you can

during that period of time cuz you can get a bite at any point time if you’ve

get a bite at any point time if you’ve

get a bite at any point time if you’ve got a sleeping condition and you can’t

got a sleeping condition and you can’t

got a sleeping condition and you can’t sleep on land go out of Oh for a few

sleep on land go out of Oh for a few

sleep on land go out of Oh for a few days it’ll not you’ll fix it real quick

days it’ll not you’ll fix it real quick

days it’ll not you’ll fix it real quick why just talk about it you know you get

why just talk about it you know you get

why just talk about it you know you get out there and you’re you’re up around

out there and you’re you’re up around

out there and you’re you’re up around the clock trying to make bait do things

the clock trying to make bait do things

the clock trying to make bait do things and and that you know right and I sleep

and and that you know right and I sleep

and and that you know right and I sleep out there way better than I ever do on

out there way better than I ever do on

out there way better than I ever do on land how much of the boat success is the

land how much of the boat success is the

land how much of the boat success is the captain how much of it is the crew crew

captain how much of it is the crew crew

captain how much of it is the crew crew it’s reciprocal I think it’s you know

it’s reciprocal I think it’s you know

it’s reciprocal I think it’s you know there’s no way to put a number on one

there’s no way to put a number on one

there’s no way to put a number on one you’re handling the pointy end the

you’re handling the pointy end the

you’re handling the pointy end the handle is scratch I’ve got it on you had

handle is scratch I’ve got it on you had

handle is scratch I’ve got it on you had like the boat in the right spot – I mean

like the boat in the right spot – I mean

like the boat in the right spot – I mean ultimately my mates don’t tell me where

ultimately my mates don’t tell me where

ultimately my mates don’t tell me where to go that you know we all kind of sit

to go that you know we all kind of sit

to go that you know we all kind of sit around say hey what you want to do but

around say hey what you want to do but

around say hey what you want to do but at the other day I’m the one saying drop

at the other day I’m the one saying drop

at the other day I’m the one saying drop the anchor here and then I’m dependent

the anchor here and then I’m dependent

the anchor here and then I’m dependent on them to you know get good bait in the

on them to you know get good bait in the

on them to you know get good bait in the well get to tackle ready stuff like that

well get to tackle ready stuff like that

well get to tackle ready stuff like that so it’s definitely a team effort well

so it’s definitely a team effort well

so it’s definitely a team effort well that’s where we are guys it’s good to

that’s where we are guys it’s good to

that’s where we are guys it’s good to have you here for wicked tuna real talk

have you here for wicked tuna real talk

have you here for wicked tuna real talk at once again I want to thank all three

at once again I want to thank all three

at once again I want to thank all three of our captain’s today TJ odd captain

of our captain’s today TJ odd captain

of our captain’s today TJ odd captain Dave Guerrero and captain Tyler

Dave Guerrero and captain Tyler

Dave Guerrero and captain Tyler McLaughlin as well thank you so much for

McLaughlin as well thank you so much for

McLaughlin as well thank you so much for being a part of this area wicked tuna

being a part of this area wicked tuna

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season will be putting different

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be asking them about the fallout from

be asking them about the fallout from Dave and Tyler’s fight we’ll also talk

Dave and Tyler’s fight we’ll also talk

Dave and Tyler’s fight we’ll also talk to TJ about the difficult decision he is

to TJ about the difficult decision he is

to TJ about the difficult decision he is faced with in the upcoming episode will

faced with in the upcoming episode will

faced with in the upcoming episode will his brother Mike’s bad performance mean

his brother Mike’s bad performance mean

his brother Mike’s bad performance mean TJ’s gonna have to fire him can you fire

TJ’s gonna have to fire him can you fire

TJ’s gonna have to fire him can you fire your own brother

your own brother

your own brother fire we’ll find out with Jenna Reza

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