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The battle between nature and nurture | Irene Gallego Romero | TEDxNTU


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[Applause] I’m here today to talk to you guys about

I’m here today to talk to you guys about

I’m here today to talk to you guys about jeans and when I say jeans I don’t mean

jeans and when I say jeans I don’t mean

jeans and when I say jeans I don’t mean that I don’t mean the jeans you’re

that I don’t mean the jeans you’re

that I don’t mean the jeans you’re wearing but rather the jeans you’re

wearing but rather the jeans you’re

wearing but rather the jeans you’re carrying your DNA so to start off I

carrying your DNA so to start off I

carrying your DNA so to start off I thought we’d talk really quickly about

thought we’d talk really quickly about

thought we’d talk really quickly about some things you might have heard about

some things you might have heard about

some things you might have heard about your jeans that you’re wondering about

your jeans that you’re wondering about

your jeans that you’re wondering about first of all you might have heard that

first of all you might have heard that

first of all you might have heard that you share 99% of them with chimpanzees

you share 99% of them with chimpanzees

you share 99% of them with chimpanzees which are closest living relative and

which are closest living relative and

which are closest living relative and that is absolutely true you might have

that is absolutely true you might have

that is absolutely true you might have also heard that there is less DNA in you

also heard that there is less DNA in you

also heard that there is less DNA in you in each of your cells then there is an

in each of your cells then there is an

in each of your cells then there is an in those of a humble onion and that is

in those of a humble onion and that is

in those of a humble onion and that is also true

also true

also true and lastly who amongst you hasn’t heard

and lastly who amongst you hasn’t heard

and lastly who amongst you hasn’t heard on TV or read on Facebook or on any

on TV or read on Facebook or on any

on TV or read on Facebook or on any other sources that scientists have

other sources that scientists have

other sources that scientists have discovered the gene for things like

discovered the gene for things like

discovered the gene for things like crime or maybe autism or cancer or

crime or maybe autism or cancer or

crime or maybe autism or cancer or beauty or attraction or really any other

beauty or attraction or really any other

beauty or attraction or really any other number of traits

number of traits

number of traits well I’m gonna tell you something and

well I’m gonna tell you something and

well I’m gonna tell you something and that’s something is that that is wrong

that’s something is that that is wrong

that’s something is that that is wrong and I’m gonna tell you why

and I’m gonna tell you why

and I’m gonna tell you why so these days it’s really really

so these days it’s really really

so these days it’s really really fashionable to attribute all kinds of

fashionable to attribute all kinds of

fashionable to attribute all kinds of phenomenal powers to our DNA so the

phenomenal powers to our DNA so the

phenomenal powers to our DNA so the degree that you might start to wonder if

degree that you might start to wonder if

degree that you might start to wonder if there’s really any reason in trying to

there’s really any reason in trying to

there’s really any reason in trying to fight your genetic testing what makes

fight your genetic testing what makes

fight your genetic testing what makes you you and makes me me is the argument

you you and makes me me is the argument

you you and makes me me is the argument goes innate it’s something you’re born

goes innate it’s something you’re born

goes innate it’s something you’re born with it’s your DNA and you know some of

with it’s your DNA and you know some of

with it’s your DNA and you know some of you might actually find that comforting

you might actually find that comforting

you might actually find that comforting because if you’re destined to gain

because if you’re destined to gain

because if you’re destined to gain weight no matter what then you might as

weight no matter what then you might as

weight no matter what then you might as well enjoy yourself at lunch and stop

well enjoy yourself at lunch and stop

well enjoy yourself at lunch and stop feeling guilty about it you know why try

feeling guilty about it you know why try

feeling guilty about it you know why try to fight this everybody knows you can’t

to fight this everybody knows you can’t

to fight this everybody knows you can’t actually win against your DNA but is

actually win against your DNA but is

actually win against your DNA but is that really true you know is your DNA

that really true you know is your DNA

that really true you know is your DNA really all that powerful and this is a

really all that powerful and this is a

really all that powerful and this is a question you might have asked yourself

question you might have asked yourself

question you might have asked yourself before and it’s indeed a question you

before and it’s indeed a question you

before and it’s indeed a question you might have heard of before because it

might have heard of before because it

might have heard of before because it has been referred to for a long time as

has been referred to for a long time as

has been referred to for a long time as the question of nature versus nurture

the question of nature versus nurture

the question of nature versus nurture okay so sometimes it’s very true that

okay so sometimes it’s very true that

okay so sometimes it’s very true that there is nothing you can do against your

there is nothing you can do against your

there is nothing you can do against your DNA and let me give you a pretty

DNA and let me give you a pretty

DNA and let me give you a pretty sobering example and instead of

sobering example and instead of

sobering example and instead of Huntington’s disease it is a terrible

Huntington’s disease it is a terrible

Huntington’s disease it is a terrible terrible disease

terrible disease

terrible disease one in which the cells in your brain

one in which the cells in your brain

one in which the cells in your brain become down

become down

become down and slowly die and so you will rapidly

and slowly die and so you will rapidly

and slowly die and so you will rapidly lose your ability to control both their

lose your ability to control both their

lose your ability to control both their body on your mind and there’s a cease

body on your mind and there’s a cease

body on your mind and there’s a cease for which there is endure treatment nor

for which there is endure treatment nor

for which there is endure treatment nor cure it is also a fully genetic disease

cure it is also a fully genetic disease

cure it is also a fully genetic disease all it takes is a single damaged copy of

all it takes is a single damaged copy of

all it takes is a single damaged copy of a single gene if you have that copy you

a single gene if you have that copy you

a single gene if you have that copy you will get the disease it is unavoidable

will get the disease it is unavoidable

will get the disease it is unavoidable but not all diseases and not all traits

but not all diseases and not all traits

but not all diseases and not all traits in fact behave like this just because

in fact behave like this just because

in fact behave like this just because one of your parents had cancer does not

one of your parents had cancer does not

one of your parents had cancer does not mean that you two necessarily will have

mean that you two necessarily will have

mean that you two necessarily will have cancer even though you inherited half of

cancer even though you inherited half of

cancer even though you inherited half of your DNA from that parent and the same

your DNA from that parent and the same

your DNA from that parent and the same is true in fact of many traits traits

is true in fact of many traits traits

is true in fact of many traits traits like height and weight and even

like height and weight and even

like height and weight and even intelligence and also of complex

intelligence and also of complex

intelligence and also of complex diseases of things like diabetes or

diseases of things like diabetes or

diseases of things like diabetes or heart disease for instance you could be

heart disease for instance you could be

heart disease for instance you could be the child of the tallest two people on

the child of the tallest two people on

the child of the tallest two people on earth but if you were malnourished as an

earth but if you were malnourished as an

earth but if you were malnourished as an infant it is extremely unlikely that you

infant it is extremely unlikely that you

infant it is extremely unlikely that you will be as tall as they are so sometimes

will be as tall as they are so sometimes

will be as tall as they are so sometimes your life experiences Trump your genes

your life experiences Trump your genes

your life experiences Trump your genes nice and easy

nice and easy

nice and easy sometimes nurture wins and in fact if

sometimes nurture wins and in fact if

sometimes nurture wins and in fact if you look back fifty years a hundred

you look back fifty years a hundred

you look back fifty years a hundred years ago you’ll find that most

years ago you’ll find that most

years ago you’ll find that most philosophers strongly denied that nature

philosophers strongly denied that nature

philosophers strongly denied that nature had any role in shaping humans the only

had any role in shaping humans the only

had any role in shaping humans the only thing that mattered was nurture the only

thing that mattered was nurture the only

thing that mattered was nurture the only thing that matter was experience nothing

thing that matter was experience nothing

thing that matter was experience nothing about humans was innate now both of

about humans was innate now both of

about humans was innate now both of those positions are actually rather

those positions are actually rather

those positions are actually rather extreme if you stop to think about it

extreme if you stop to think about it

extreme if you stop to think about it for a second you’ll realize that

for a second you’ll realize that

for a second you’ll realize that sometimes when nature and nurture when

sometimes when nature and nurture when

sometimes when nature and nurture when DNA and experience fight the winner is

DNA and experience fight the winner is

DNA and experience fight the winner is really easy to predict for instance you

really easy to predict for instance you

really easy to predict for instance you can wish all you want for six fingers if

can wish all you want for six fingers if

can wish all you want for six fingers if you are not born with six fingers you

you are not born with six fingers you

you are not born with six fingers you will never have them I’m really sorry to

will never have them I’m really sorry to

will never have them I’m really sorry to disappoint you on the other hand just

disappoint you on the other hand just

disappoint you on the other hand just because you cannot speak German today

because you cannot speak German today

because you cannot speak German today there is nothing in your DNA at all that

there is nothing in your DNA at all that

there is nothing in your DNA at all that says that you cannot learn it if you

says that you cannot learn it if you

says that you cannot learn it if you start studying it tomorrow

start studying it tomorrow

start studying it tomorrow so yes sometimes the questions can are

so yes sometimes the questions can are

so yes sometimes the questions can are easy to answer sometimes those are

easy to answer sometimes those are

easy to answer sometimes those are simple answers but simple answers are

simple answers but simple answers are

simple answers but simple answers are though they are really really tempting

though they are really really tempting

though they are really really tempting or most of the time not right

or most of the time not right

or most of the time not right and in fact complex problems are far

and in fact complex problems are far

and in fact complex problems are far more common and to me far more

more common and to me far more

more common and to me far more interesting than simple ones so I want

interesting than simple ones so I want

interesting than simple ones so I want to tell you a story about my doctoral

to tell you a story about my doctoral

to tell you a story about my doctoral work so when I was a graduate student

work so when I was a graduate student

work so when I was a graduate student I’m a human evolutionary geneticist and

I’m a human evolutionary geneticist and

I’m a human evolutionary geneticist and what that means is like that I’m really

what that means is like that I’m really

what that means is like that I’m really interested in something what bits of our

interested in something what bits of our

interested in something what bits of our DNA make us human and that it and how

DNA make us human and that it and how

DNA make us human and that it and how they do so and when I was a graduate

they do so and when I was a graduate

they do so and when I was a graduate student I focused on this bit of DNA

student I focused on this bit of DNA

student I focused on this bit of DNA here and why this one well it’s clearly

here and why this one well it’s clearly

here and why this one well it’s clearly not very obvious from the sequence and

not very obvious from the sequence and

not very obvious from the sequence and in fact the reason is something you

in fact the reason is something you

in fact the reason is something you might not expect at all because the

might not expect at all because the

might not expect at all because the reason is milk that’s right

reason is milk that’s right

reason is milk that’s right milk so milk is a really complex

milk so milk is a really complex

milk so milk is a really complex substance it contains all kinds of

substance it contains all kinds of

substance it contains all kinds of things but the one I’m really interested

things but the one I’m really interested

things but the one I’m really interested in is this molecule here called lactose

in is this molecule here called lactose

in is this molecule here called lactose lactose is a sugar just like the glucose

lactose is a sugar just like the glucose

lactose is a sugar just like the glucose that your doctor tells you and your

that your doctor tells you and your

that your doctor tells you and your parents and your grandparents to keep an

parents and your grandparents to keep an

parents and your grandparents to keep an eye out so you don’t get diabetes or

eye out so you don’t get diabetes or

eye out so you don’t get diabetes or like the fructose that makes fruits

like the fructose that makes fruits

like the fructose that makes fruits taste sweet but lactose has phone almost

taste sweet but lactose has phone almost

taste sweet but lactose has phone almost exclusively in milk when you drink milk

exclusively in milk when you drink milk

exclusively in milk when you drink milk it makes its way down your gut into your

it makes its way down your gut into your

it makes its way down your gut into your stomach

stomach

stomach where your body recognizes it breaks it

where your body recognizes it breaks it

where your body recognizes it breaks it down and uses it to make energy to fuel

down and uses it to make energy to fuel

down and uses it to make energy to fuel itself and you might remember from

itself and you might remember from

itself and you might remember from school that our mammals from seals to

school that our mammals from seals to

school that our mammals from seals to pigs to lions they all make milk to feed

pigs to lions they all make milk to feed

pigs to lions they all make milk to feed their babies and in fact baby sheep baby

their babies and in fact baby sheep baby

their babies and in fact baby sheep baby gorillas baby sea otters they all rely

gorillas baby sea otters they all rely

gorillas baby sea otters they all rely on their mothers to nourish them with

on their mothers to nourish them with

on their mothers to nourish them with milk at the beginning of life but

milk at the beginning of life but

milk at the beginning of life but something happens to all of these

something happens to all of these

something happens to all of these adorable animals when they grow up under

adorable animals when they grow up under

adorable animals when they grow up under you and that is that they lose the

you and that is that they lose the

you and that is that they lose the ability to digest lactose they can no

ability to digest lactose they can no

ability to digest lactose they can no longer break it down even kittens so you

longer break it down even kittens so you

longer break it down even kittens so you can feed an adorable kitten a saucer of

can feed an adorable kitten a saucer of

can feed an adorable kitten a saucer of milk he will of course drink it and lap

milk he will of course drink it and lap

milk he will of course drink it and lap it up and he will be the happiest kid

it up and he will be the happiest kid

it up and he will be the happiest kid thing you’ve ever seen probably but if

thing you’ve ever seen probably but if

thing you’ve ever seen probably but if you feel a grown car a saucer of milk he

you feel a grown car a saucer of milk he

you feel a grown car a saucer of milk he might drink it yes in fact I can tell

might drink it yes in fact I can tell

might drink it yes in fact I can tell you they will drink it but believe me

you they will drink it but believe me

you they will drink it but believe me when I tell you they’re not digesting

when I tell you they’re not digesting

when I tell you they’re not digesting that lactose they are not breaking it

that lactose they are not breaking it

that lactose they are not breaking it down I have cats at home so again

down I have cats at home so again

down I have cats at home so again believe me when I tell you that I have

believe me when I tell you that I have

believe me when I tell you that I have seen and I have smelled and I have

seen and I have smelled and I have

seen and I have smelled and I have cleaned up proof

cleaned up proof

cleaned up proof the fact that they are not digesting the

the fact that they are not digesting the

the fact that they are not digesting the lactose the only exception to this is

lactose the only exception to this is

lactose the only exception to this is some but this is extremely important not

some but this is extremely important not

some but this is extremely important not all humans so I am NOT a child I hope

all humans so I am NOT a child I hope

all humans so I am NOT a child I hope you will agree although I can on the

you will agree although I can on the

you will agree although I can on the less digest lactose very comfortably but

less digest lactose very comfortably but

less digest lactose very comfortably but because we are in Singapore I feel

because we are in Singapore I feel

because we are in Singapore I feel really comfortable saying that the vast

really comfortable saying that the vast

really comfortable saying that the vast majority of you in this audience could

majority of you in this audience could

majority of you in this audience could not go home right now drink a pint of

not go home right now drink a pint of

not go home right now drink a pint of milk and not feel terrible for a while

milk and not feel terrible for a while

milk and not feel terrible for a while that’s it if you don’t believe me if you

that’s it if you don’t believe me if you

that’s it if you don’t believe me if you haven’t done this experiment please by

haven’t done this experiment please by

haven’t done this experiment please by all means do it but don’t just drink oh

all means do it but don’t just drink oh

all means do it but don’t just drink oh you know a little sip of milk or a

you know a little sip of milk or a

you know a little sip of milk or a little pod of yogurt no no no no I want

little pod of yogurt no no no no I want

little pod of yogurt no no no no I want you to go home and pour yourself a nice

you to go home and pour yourself a nice

you to go home and pour yourself a nice tall glass of just plain cold milk nice

tall glass of just plain cold milk nice

tall glass of just plain cold milk nice and full of lactose and my guess is that

and full of lactose and my guess is that

and full of lactose and my guess is that you’re all gonna end up pretty annoyed

you’re all gonna end up pretty annoyed

you’re all gonna end up pretty annoyed at me for having talked you into doing

at me for having talked you into doing

at me for having talked you into doing that but you know how do I know this I

that but you know how do I know this I

that but you know how do I know this I mean my job is not actually to go around

mean my job is not actually to go around

mean my job is not actually to go around and ask animals how much they like milk

and ask animals how much they like milk

and ask animals how much they like milk and I don’t know any of you so I really

and I don’t know any of you so I really

and I don’t know any of you so I really don’t know if you like milk but how so

don’t know if you like milk but how so

don’t know if you like milk but how so how am I so comfortable in my guess well

how am I so comfortable in my guess well

how am I so comfortable in my guess well the answer is really simple

the answer is really simple

the answer is really simple it’s that bit of DNA that I showed you

it’s that bit of DNA that I showed you

it’s that bit of DNA that I showed you in fact it’s that little see the one in

in fact it’s that little see the one in

in fact it’s that little see the one in red there that is something that I have

red there that is something that I have

red there that is something that I have that most of you don’t and that’s

that most of you don’t and that’s

that most of you don’t and that’s because it’s from primarily in people of

because it’s from primarily in people of

because it’s from primarily in people of European descent you can see here in

European descent you can see here in

European descent you can see here in this map which I took from some

this map which I took from some

this map which I took from some colleagues new bunny telling his friends

colleagues new bunny telling his friends

colleagues new bunny telling his friends where that little sea is most common in

where that little sea is most common in

where that little sea is most common in popular in places like Britain and

popular in places like Britain and

popular in places like Britain and Northern Europe and where it is least

Northern Europe and where it is least

Northern Europe and where it is least common in the world which is pretty much

common in the world which is pretty much

common in the world which is pretty much anywhere in blue you can also see that

anywhere in blue you can also see that

anywhere in blue you can also see that it’s pretty much unseen east of India

it’s pretty much unseen east of India

it’s pretty much unseen east of India which is the region I studied as a PhD

which is the region I studied as a PhD

which is the region I studied as a PhD student that single see that tiny little

student that single see that tiny little

student that single see that tiny little change gives me the ability to digest

change gives me the ability to digest

change gives me the ability to digest digest lactose as an adult so on the

digest lactose as an adult so on the

digest lactose as an adult so on the surface that would seem like a really

surface that would seem like a really

surface that would seem like a really clear case for lactose or DNA winning

clear case for lactose or DNA winning

clear case for lactose or DNA winning everything for DNA beating nurture again

everything for DNA beating nurture again

everything for DNA beating nurture again right I mean a single difference and I

right I mean a single difference and I

right I mean a single difference and I can do something you cannot you have

can do something you cannot you have

can do something you cannot you have them so I have the mutation I can digest

them so I have the mutation I can digest

them so I have the mutation I can digest lactose you don’t have it

lactose you don’t have it

lactose you don’t have it you feel sick he’s closed right I mean

you feel sick he’s closed right I mean

you feel sick he’s closed right I mean purely but actually let’s take a step

purely but actually let’s take a step

purely but actually let’s take a step back because there is one thing missing

back because there is one thing missing

back because there is one thing missing from this story that’s the milk where

from this story that’s the milk where

from this story that’s the milk where does the milk come from you know that

does the milk come from you know that

does the milk come from you know that bit is certainly not encoded by that

bit is certainly not encoded by that

bit is certainly not encoded by that little C so the truth is yes I have a

little C so the truth is yes I have a

little C so the truth is yes I have a mutation in my DNA that lets me digest

mutation in my DNA that lets me digest

mutation in my DNA that lets me digest lactose if I don’t have access to cows

lactose if I don’t have access to cows

lactose if I don’t have access to cows or to goat or to sheep or to camels or

or to goat or to sheep or to camels or

or to goat or to sheep or to camels or to any other animal we can milk that

to any other animal we can milk that

to any other animal we can milk that mutation is totally pointless being able

mutation is totally pointless being able

mutation is totally pointless being able to digest milk is a totally pointless

to digest milk is a totally pointless

to digest milk is a totally pointless ability if you have no access to milk

ability if you have no access to milk

ability if you have no access to milk so maybe DNA is actually not that mighty

so maybe DNA is actually not that mighty

so maybe DNA is actually not that mighty and let me give you another example this

and let me give you another example this

and let me give you another example this one is a bit more somber but I think

one is a bit more somber but I think

one is a bit more somber but I think you’ll see what I’m what I mean

you’ll see what I’m what I mean

you’ll see what I’m what I mean so here on this figure you can see on

so here on this figure you can see on

so here on this figure you can see on this graph you can see how common it was

this graph you can see how common it was

this graph you can see how common it was for American men to die of different

for American men to die of different

for American men to die of different types of cancer at different times in

types of cancer at different times in

types of cancer at different times in the 20th century and I took this from a

the 20th century and I took this from a

the 20th century and I took this from a study from the Cleveland Clinic in the

study from the Cleveland Clinic in the

study from the Cleveland Clinic in the u.s. so the stats are for you u.s. men

u.s. so the stats are for you u.s. men

u.s. so the stats are for you u.s. men as you can see most of the 20th century

as you can see most of the 20th century

as you can see most of the 20th century the most common form of cancer has been

the most common form of cancer has been

the most common form of cancer has been lung cancer which is the one that I’m

lung cancer which is the one that I’m

lung cancer which is the one that I’m pointing to with a big red arrow over

pointing to with a big red arrow over

pointing to with a big red arrow over there right now

cancer is a disease that is caused

cancer is a disease that is caused fundamentally by damage to your DNA that

fundamentally by damage to your DNA that

fundamentally by damage to your DNA that damages your body’s abilities to control

damages your body’s abilities to control

damages your body’s abilities to control when and where your cells divide so in a

when and where your cells divide so in a

when and where your cells divide so in a sense cancer is caused by your DNA so

sense cancer is caused by your DNA so

sense cancer is caused by your DNA so here we are again DNA genetic destiny

here we are again DNA genetic destiny

here we are again DNA genetic destiny but actually is that really true because

but actually is that really true because

but actually is that really true because we all know that there is a recent

we all know that there is a recent

we all know that there is a recent cancer has become so common in the past

cancer has become so common in the past

cancer has become so common in the past 50 60 70 years and it’s got nothing at

50 60 70 years and it’s got nothing at

50 60 70 years and it’s got nothing at all to do with DNA what I’m talking

all to do with DNA what I’m talking

all to do with DNA what I’m talking about of course is the rise of smoking

about of course is the rise of smoking

about of course is the rise of smoking in fact if you look at the figure you’ll

in fact if you look at the figure you’ll

in fact if you look at the figure you’ll see that lung cancer was pretty uncommon

see that lung cancer was pretty uncommon

see that lung cancer was pretty uncommon in the u.s. until cigarettes became

in the u.s. until cigarettes became

in the u.s. until cigarettes became widespread and while not everybody who

widespread and while not everybody who

widespread and while not everybody who smokes

smokes

smokes will get lung cancer and not everybody

will get lung cancer and not everybody

will get lung cancer and not everybody who gets lung cancer is a smoker the

who gets lung cancer is a smoker the

who gets lung cancer is a smoker the fact remains that smoking dramatically

fact remains that smoking dramatically

fact remains that smoking dramatically damages the cells in your lungs and that

damages the cells in your lungs and that

damages the cells in your lungs and that in turn dramatically increases your

in turn dramatically increases your

in turn dramatically increases your chance

chance

chance of getting cancer so then what causes

of getting cancer so then what causes

of getting cancer so then what causes lung cancer is it nature is it DNA I

lung cancer is it nature is it DNA I

lung cancer is it nature is it DNA I mean if we damage DNA we get cancer

mean if we damage DNA we get cancer

mean if we damage DNA we get cancer maybe it’s actually nurture I mean

maybe it’s actually nurture I mean

maybe it’s actually nurture I mean without smoking without damage to your

without smoking without damage to your

without smoking without damage to your genes there is no cancer so if you don’t

genes there is no cancer so if you don’t

genes there is no cancer so if you don’t smoke you don’t damage your genes you

smoke you don’t damage your genes you

smoke you don’t damage your genes you don’t get cancer

don’t get cancer

don’t get cancer so perhaps you see though where I’m

so perhaps you see though where I’m

so perhaps you see though where I’m going with this because my question to

going with this because my question to

going with this because my question to you today is actually well does this

you today is actually well does this

you today is actually well does this really have to be a fight do we really

really have to be a fight do we really

really have to be a fight do we really need to think of this as nature versus

need to think of this as nature versus

need to think of this as nature versus nurture nature or nurture I think it’s

nurture nature or nurture I think it’s

nurture nature or nurture I think it’s really really clear that actually it’s

really really clear that actually it’s

really really clear that actually it’s nature and nurture because the truth is

nature and nurture because the truth is

nature and nurture because the truth is that yes you have genes we all have

that yes you have genes we all have

that yes you have genes we all have genes and these genes do all kinds of

genes and these genes do all kinds of

genes and these genes do all kinds of things right but if you look at a single

things right but if you look at a single

things right but if you look at a single gene what it tends to do tends to be

gene what it tends to do tends to be

gene what it tends to do tends to be pretty small a single gene might do

pretty small a single gene might do

pretty small a single gene might do something like make a protein that

something like make a protein that

something like make a protein that breaks down lactose and in isolation

breaks down lactose and in isolation

breaks down lactose and in isolation that’s not really striking you might say

that’s not really striking you might say

that’s not really striking you might say to yourself that’s a fair criticism but

to yourself that’s a fair criticism but

to yourself that’s a fair criticism but the beauty of the system is that genes

the beauty of the system is that genes

the beauty of the system is that genes respond to each other a gene can react

respond to each other a gene can react

respond to each other a gene can react to the product of another gene but even

to the product of another gene but even

to the product of another gene but even more striking is the fact that genes not

more striking is the fact that genes not

more striking is the fact that genes not only respond to each other they respond

only respond to each other they respond

only respond to each other they respond to other things as well they respond to

to other things as well they respond to

to other things as well they respond to the environment in which you live they

the environment in which you live they

the environment in which you live they respond to the food you eat they respond

respond to the food you eat they respond

respond to the food you eat they respond to the decisions you make well it’s

to the decisions you make well it’s

to the decisions you make well it’s really really tempting to have a simple

really really tempting to have a simple

really really tempting to have a simple answer to have some yes or no nature or

answer to have some yes or no nature or

answer to have some yes or no nature or nurture

nurture

nurture you might also even want someone to

you might also even want someone to

you might also even want someone to blame in some situations the truces life

blame in some situations the truces life

blame in some situations the truces life is quite messy that’s not how life works

is quite messy that’s not how life works

is quite messy that’s not how life works life is really complicated so the next

life is really complicated so the next

life is really complicated so the next time you see science you see a newspaper

time you see science you see a newspaper

time you see science you see a newspaper headline that says Oh scientists have

headline that says Oh scientists have

headline that says Oh scientists have discovered the gene for cancer again

discovered the gene for cancer again

discovered the gene for cancer again please keep in mind that what that

please keep in mind that what that

please keep in mind that what that article really means is that scientists

article really means is that scientists

article really means is that scientists have discovered a gene for cancer that

have discovered a gene for cancer that

have discovered a gene for cancer that is associated perhaps with higher

is associated perhaps with higher

is associated perhaps with higher likelihood or even less likelihood of

likelihood or even less likelihood of

likelihood or even less likelihood of getting cancer in a given environment

getting cancer in a given environment

getting cancer in a given environment because the truth is there is no single

because the truth is there is no single

because the truth is there is no single gene for cancer there are many genes

gene for cancer there are many genes

gene for cancer there are many genes always many genes that control yes your

always many genes that control yes your

always many genes that control yes your likelihood of getting cancer but also

likelihood of getting cancer but also

likelihood of getting cancer but also things like your height your weight the

things like your height your weight the

things like your height your weight the shape of your face the color of your

shape of your face the color of your

shape of your face the color of your skin even the lightly

skin even the lightly

skin even the lightly of you suffering from major depression

of you suffering from major depression

of you suffering from major depression at some point in your life okay but

at some point in your life okay but

at some point in your life okay but without the wrong environment likelihood

without the wrong environment likelihood

without the wrong environment likelihood and chances is all they will ever be and

and chances is all they will ever be and

and chances is all they will ever be and so I want to leave you with this final

so I want to leave you with this final

so I want to leave you with this final thought despite what you might have

thought despite what you might have

thought despite what you might have heard before you are not the

heard before you are not the

heard before you are not the battleground upon which nature and

battleground upon which nature and

battleground upon which nature and nurture fight no no no absolutely not

nurture fight no no no absolutely not

nurture fight no no no absolutely not you are the canvas upon which they

you are the canvas upon which they

you are the canvas upon which they collaborate you are the product of their

collaborate you are the product of their

collaborate you are the product of their interactions

interactions

interactions [Applause]

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