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National Geographic we have with us
National Geographic we have with us today several big cat experts on Luke
today several big cat experts on Luke
today several big cat experts on Luke dollar I work with the big cats
dollar I work with the big cats
dollar I work with the big cats initiative for National Geographic and
initiative for National Geographic and
initiative for National Geographic and I’m a National Geographic Explorer and
I’m a National Geographic Explorer and
I’m a National Geographic Explorer and joining us a day today are Boone Smith
joining us a day today are Boone Smith
joining us a day today are Boone Smith expert big cat tracker and host of Nat
expert big cat tracker and host of Nat
expert big cat tracker and host of Nat Geo Wild’s man vs lion Chrissy current
Geo Wild’s man vs lion Chrissy current
Geo Wild’s man vs lion Chrissy current conservation biologist and big cats
conservation biologist and big cats
conservation biologist and big cats initiative grantee Shivani Bala
initiative grantee Shivani Bala
initiative grantee Shivani Bala conservation biologist and big cats
conservation biologist and big cats
conservation biologist and big cats initiative grantee Boone’s joining us
initiative grantee Boone’s joining us
initiative grantee Boone’s joining us from Wyoming Chrissy’s joining us from
from Wyoming Chrissy’s joining us from
from Wyoming Chrissy’s joining us from India and shivani’s joining us from
India and shivani’s joining us from
India and shivani’s joining us from Kenya also Derek and Beverly zubair
Kenya also Derek and Beverly zubair
Kenya also Derek and Beverly zubair National Geographic explorers and
National Geographic explorers and
National Geographic explorers and residents and co-founders of the big
residents and co-founders of the big
residents and co-founders of the big cats initiative are in rural Botswana
cats initiative are in rural Botswana
cats initiative are in rural Botswana attempting to join us via satellite so
attempting to join us via satellite so
attempting to join us via satellite so we’ll hopefully be hearing from them as
we’ll hopefully be hearing from them as
we’ll hopefully be hearing from them as well it’s big cat week at National
well it’s big cat week at National
well it’s big cat week at National Geographic and today we’re talking about
Geographic and today we’re talking about
Geographic and today we’re talking about the endangered felines with the people
the endangered felines with the people
the endangered felines with the people that are raising awareness to conserve
that are raising awareness to conserve
that are raising awareness to conserve them and are doing things to protect
them and are doing things to protect
them and are doing things to protect them um big cat tracker Boone Smith then
them um big cat tracker Boone Smith then
them um big cat tracker Boone Smith then can you say hello hello how are we we’re
can you say hello hello how are we we’re
can you say hello hello how are we we’re doing very well Shivani can you hear as
doing very well Shivani can you hear as
doing very well Shivani can you hear as well joining us via Skype hi can you
well joining us via Skype hi can you
well joining us via Skype hi can you hear you excellent Derek and Beverly
hear you excellent Derek and Beverly
hear you excellent Derek and Beverly zubair are still attempting to join us
zubair are still attempting to join us
zubair are still attempting to join us from Botswana and krissy current you’re
from Botswana and krissy current you’re
from Botswana and krissy current you’re there are you not yes I am right hi
there are you not yes I am right hi
there are you not yes I am right hi Kathy and don’t forget everyone at home
Kathy and don’t forget everyone at home
Kathy and don’t forget everyone at home we want to hear from you post your
we want to hear from you post your
we want to hear from you post your questions on social media for a big cat
questions on social media for a big cat
questions on social media for a big cat experts with hashtag big cats and we’ll
experts with hashtag big cats and we’ll
experts with hashtag big cats and we’ll try our best to answer them first let’s
try our best to answer them first let’s
try our best to answer them first let’s start with a little bit about what the
start with a little bit about what the
start with a little bit about what the big cats initiative or the BCI is the
big cats initiative or the BCI is the
big cats initiative or the BCI is the BCI is national Geographics program to
BCI is national Geographics program to
BCI is national Geographics program to support conservation and protection from
support conservation and protection from
support conservation and protection from big cat populations worldwide now these
big cat populations worldwide now these
big cat populations worldwide now these are lions tigers cheetahs leopards Pumas
are lions tigers cheetahs leopards Pumas
are lions tigers cheetahs leopards Pumas snow leopards etc and it’s also an
snow leopards etc and it’s also an
snow leopards etc and it’s also an assessment protection and communication
assessment protection and communication
assessment protection and communication program around
program around
program around big cats with the goal of protecting
big cats with the goal of protecting
big cats with the goal of protecting them and stopping their global
them and stopping their global
them and stopping their global population decline it’s currently in its
population decline it’s currently in its
population decline it’s currently in its fifth going on sixth year and the BCI
fifth going on sixth year and the BCI
fifth going on sixth year and the BCI has provided 65 grants to field
has provided 65 grants to field
has provided 65 grants to field conservationists in 24 countries around
conservationists in 24 countries around
conservationists in 24 countries around the world a few metrics that may bring
the world a few metrics that may bring
the world a few metrics that may bring this need to bear our that lions have
this need to bear our that lions have
this need to bear our that lions have disappeared from ninety percent of their
disappeared from ninety percent of their
disappeared from ninety percent of their original habitat ninety percent of the
original habitat ninety percent of the
original habitat ninety percent of the world’s population of lions have
world’s population of lions have
world’s population of lions have disappeared many of whom in the last
disappeared many of whom in the last
disappeared many of whom in the last century there are fewer than 3000 tigers
century there are fewer than 3000 tigers
century there are fewer than 3000 tigers left in the wild africa which is home to
left in the wild africa which is home to
left in the wild africa which is home to a billion or more people is home to less
a billion or more people is home to less
a billion or more people is home to less than 10,000 cheetahs Jaguars and
than 10,000 cheetahs Jaguars and
than 10,000 cheetahs Jaguars and leopards for example are hunted for
leopards for example are hunted for
leopards for example are hunted for their fur Derek and Beverly zubair
their fur Derek and Beverly zubair
their fur Derek and Beverly zubair pushed National Geographic to found the
pushed National Geographic to found the
pushed National Geographic to found the big cats initiative to not only report
big cats initiative to not only report
big cats initiative to not only report about what’s going on with big cats
about what’s going on with big cats
about what’s going on with big cats around the world but to also do things
around the world but to also do things
around the world but to also do things to make a difference and everyone we
to make a difference and everyone we
to make a difference and everyone we have here today are fine examples of
have here today are fine examples of
have here today are fine examples of exactly what’s going on in the field all
exactly what’s going on in the field all
exactly what’s going on in the field all around the world to protect big cats and
around the world to protect big cats and
around the world to protect big cats and that’s what we’re celebrating this week
that’s what we’re celebrating this week
that’s what we’re celebrating this week on big cats week at National Geographic
on big cats week at National Geographic
on big cats week at National Geographic we do have a question first from one of
we do have a question first from one of
we do have a question first from one of our viewers anneliese Fuchs from
our viewers anneliese Fuchs from
our viewers anneliese Fuchs from Switzerland wants to know how did you
Switzerland wants to know how did you
Switzerland wants to know how did you all become big cat conservationists you
all become big cat conservationists you
all become big cat conservationists you guys have a variety of backgrounds and
guys have a variety of backgrounds and
guys have a variety of backgrounds and so Shivani let’s start with you how did
so Shivani let’s start with you how did
so Shivani let’s start with you how did you become a big cat conservationist i
you become a big cat conservationist i
you become a big cat conservationist i Luke to me it was a childhood dream and
Luke to me it was a childhood dream and
Luke to me it was a childhood dream and passion I saw my best cat when I was
passion I saw my best cat when I was
passion I saw my best cat when I was eight years old and it happened to be in
eight years old and it happened to be in
eight years old and it happened to be in Samburu I’ve never forgotten that I love
Samburu I’ve never forgotten that I love
Samburu I’ve never forgotten that I love the big cats ever since i was a child i
the big cats ever since i was a child i
the big cats ever since i was a child i pursued education in my life
pursued education in my life
pursued education in my life constipation i moved up to samburu 12
constipation i moved up to samburu 12
constipation i moved up to samburu 12 years ago to start working with lions so
years ago to start working with lions so
years ago to start working with lions so for me it’s been a dream of mine since I
for me it’s been a dream of mine since I
for me it’s been a dream of mine since I was a child and I just persevered and
was a child and I just persevered and
was a child and I just persevered and got where I am today well and Chrissy
got where I am today well and Chrissy
got where I am today well and Chrissy how about you well I saw my first tiger
how about you well I saw my first tiger
how about you well I saw my first tiger and leopard by the time I was too
and leopard by the time I was too
and leopard by the time I was too because my father is a type of
because my father is a type of
because my father is a type of biologists and I got to track tigers and
biologists and I got to track tigers and
biologists and I got to track tigers and leopards when I was 8 years old so I
leopards when I was 8 years old so I
leopards when I was 8 years old so I fell in love with big cats as a very
fell in love with big cats as a very
fell in love with big cats as a very young child and much later on decided
young child and much later on decided
young child and much later on decided that this
that this
that this is what I wanted to do with my life as
is what I wanted to do with my life as
is what I wanted to do with my life as well that’s fantastic in Boone how about
well that’s fantastic in Boone how about
well that’s fantastic in Boone how about you how did you come to love big cats
you how did you come to love big cats
you how did you come to love big cats and work to protect them and learn more
and work to protect them and learn more
and work to protect them and learn more about them um my story’s not too
about them um my story’s not too
about them um my story’s not too different from the rest I had a
different from the rest I had a
different from the rest I had a grandfather and a father that had me
grandfather and a father that had me
grandfather and a father that had me outside from the time I could walk and
outside from the time I could walk and
outside from the time I could walk and it was tracks animals mountains hills
it was tracks animals mountains hills
it was tracks animals mountains hills you name it they just were passionate
you name it they just were passionate
you name it they just were passionate about it and so that love for the
about it and so that love for the
about it and so that love for the outdoors inspired me to go into work as
outdoors inspired me to go into work as
outdoors inspired me to go into work as a wildlife biologist and that’s evolved
a wildlife biologist and that’s evolved
a wildlife biologist and that’s evolved into a wildlife consultant and a capture
into a wildlife consultant and a capture
into a wildlife consultant and a capture expert in tractor now where I help a
expert in tractor now where I help a
expert in tractor now where I help a variety of different organizations go
variety of different organizations go
variety of different organizations go out and radio collar and track these
out and radio collar and track these
out and radio collar and track these animals for research to to get some
animals for research to to get some
animals for research to to get some really good data so we can make good
really good data so we can make good
really good data so we can make good decisions when it comes to these animals
decisions when it comes to these animals
decisions when it comes to these animals so we’ve got two multi-generational big
so we’ve got two multi-generational big
so we’ve got two multi-generational big cat conservationists and shivani who
cat conservationists and shivani who
cat conservationists and shivani who came to it as a first generation big cat
came to it as a first generation big cat
came to it as a first generation big cat conservationist that’s fantastic burn
conservationist that’s fantastic burn
conservationist that’s fantastic burn your a fourth-generation cat tracker I
your a fourth-generation cat tracker I
your a fourth-generation cat tracker I have to say that the last time you and I
have to say that the last time you and I
have to say that the last time you and I were actually together in one place it
were actually together in one place it
were actually together in one place it was in South Africa when manvi lion was
was in South Africa when manvi lion was
was in South Africa when manvi lion was being filmed and one of the things that
being filmed and one of the things that
being filmed and one of the things that struck me almost immediately was you
struck me almost immediately was you
struck me almost immediately was you hadn’t been in South Africa for more
hadn’t been in South Africa for more
hadn’t been in South Africa for more than two days trying to work with all
than two days trying to work with all
than two days trying to work with all the the game managers there and the
the the game managers there and the
the the game managers there and the experts who live there year-round this
experts who live there year-round this
experts who live there year-round this is their backyard and by the end of day
is their backyard and by the end of day
is their backyard and by the end of day two you were spotting lion footprints
two you were spotting lion footprints
two you were spotting lion footprints that they were missing they were asking
that they were missing they were asking
that they were missing they were asking you about your thoughts afraid they
you about your thoughts afraid they
you about your thoughts afraid they might be moving based on the lay of the
might be moving based on the lay of the
might be moving based on the lay of the landscape and I’ve got to say that that
landscape and I’ve got to say that that
landscape and I’ve got to say that that was that was really impressive what were
was that was really impressive what were
was that was really impressive what were your what was going through your mind
your what was going through your mind
your what was going through your mind when you first stepped onto the man BTW
when you first stepped onto the man BTW
when you first stepped onto the man BTW reserved in South Africa oh you know any
reserved in South Africa oh you know any
reserved in South Africa oh you know any time you’re gonna go a new place um
time you’re gonna go a new place um
time you’re gonna go a new place um there’s there’s always something a
there’s there’s always something a
there’s there’s always something a little bit of little magical about it
little bit of little magical about it
little bit of little magical about it because it is it’s new and it’s
because it is it’s new and it’s
because it is it’s new and it’s discovery and any adventure and I think
discovery and any adventure and I think
discovery and any adventure and I think that’s part of that thing that I
that’s part of that thing that I
that’s part of that thing that I probably draws all of us to is there is
probably draws all of us to is there is
probably draws all of us to is there is some adventure and discovery there and
some adventure and discovery there and
some adventure and discovery there and you know to be able to go there and you
you know to be able to go there and you
you know to be able to go there and you know gain a lot of information really
know gain a lot of information really
know gain a lot of information really quickly from the local guys and then be
quickly from the local guys and then be
quickly from the local guys and then be able to apply some of the other things
able to apply some of the other things
able to apply some of the other things learned along the way whether it be from
learned along the way whether it be from
learned along the way whether it be from lions african lions or even mountain
lions african lions or even mountain
lions african lions or even mountain lions or or leopards or things like that
lions or or leopards or things like that
lions or or leopards or things like that it was fun it was exciting because got
it was fun it was exciting because got
it was fun it was exciting because got to go out there and kind of put some of
to go out there and kind of put some of
to go out there and kind of put some of the field skills to work and there’s
the field skills to work and there’s
the field skills to work and there’s some generalities about cats which which
some generalities about cats which which
some generalities about cats which which are great because they go across the
are great because they go across the
are great because they go across the board but then there’s those unique
board but then there’s those unique
board but then there’s those unique individuals and I think that’s what
individuals and I think that’s what
individuals and I think that’s what attracts us to all of the big cats is
attracts us to all of the big cats is
attracts us to all of the big cats is when we get there despite the fact that
when we get there despite the fact that
when we get there despite the fact that we can say yeah cats I’ll do this this
we can say yeah cats I’ll do this this
we can say yeah cats I’ll do this this and this we get another circumstances
and this we get another circumstances
and this we get another circumstances and they’re so unique and individual and
and they’re so unique and individual and
and they’re so unique and individual and that’s the fascination about it I think
that’s the fascination about it I think
that’s the fascination about it I think that’s what draws us in and one sis you
that’s what draws us in and one sis you
that’s what draws us in and one sis you know health want us to get out there and
know health want us to get out there and
know health want us to get out there and discover more that’s fantastic Chrissy
discover more that’s fantastic Chrissy
discover more that’s fantastic Chrissy what’s the closest you’ve ever been to a
what’s the closest you’ve ever been to a
what’s the closest you’ve ever been to a tiger ten feet Mary ten feet yeah that’s
tiger ten feet Mary ten feet yeah that’s
tiger ten feet Mary ten feet yeah that’s amazing now when you’re when you’re
amazing now when you’re when you’re
amazing now when you’re when you’re moving around in India are you ever on
moving around in India are you ever on
moving around in India are you ever on foot in tiger habitat um I walked line
foot in tiger habitat um I walked line
foot in tiger habitat um I walked line transacts up to pattern elephant country
transacts up to pattern elephant country
transacts up to pattern elephant country where yeah the chances of seeing them
where yeah the chances of seeing them
where yeah the chances of seeing them are low but can you come across the one
are low but can you come across the one
are low but can you come across the one foot yeah and shivani the work that’s
foot yeah and shivani the work that’s
foot yeah and shivani the work that’s done by the owasso Lions project the
done by the owasso Lions project the
done by the owasso Lions project the Warriors that are working with you there
Warriors that are working with you there
Warriors that are working with you there on foot almost continuously are they not
on foot almost continuously are they not
on foot almost continuously are they not absolutely we have 15 warriors working
absolutely we have 15 warriors working
absolutely we have 15 warriors working with us they all work on foot they’re
with us they all work on foot they’re
with us they all work on foot they’re out in the field every day from dawn to
out in the field every day from dawn to
out in the field every day from dawn to dusk following tracks of lions keeping
dusk following tracks of lions keeping
dusk following tracks of lions keeping track of livestock to make sure they
track of livestock to make sure they
track of livestock to make sure they stay away from lions and trying to work
stay away from lions and trying to work
stay away from lions and trying to work with the local communities educating
with the local communities educating
with the local communities educating them talking to them about importance of
them talking to them about importance of
them talking to them about importance of lions so they do this on search every
lions so they do this on search every
lions so they do this on search every day that’s amazing I believe we may be
day that’s amazing I believe we may be
day that’s amazing I believe we may be connected with Derek and Beverly zubair
connected with Derek and Beverly zubair
connected with Derek and Beverly zubair from Botswana Derek and Beverly can you
from Botswana Derek and Beverly can you
from Botswana Derek and Beverly can you hear us oh I see where they’re trying to
hear us oh I see where they’re trying to
hear us oh I see where they’re trying to try to do it able to hear um Luke down I
try to do it able to hear um Luke down I
try to do it able to hear um Luke down I can
there’s the voice of national
there’s the voice of national Geographics big cats initiative
Geographics big cats initiative
Geographics big cats initiative co-founder and explorer-in-residence
co-founder and explorer-in-residence
co-founder and explorer-in-residence derek zubair along with his wife Beverly
derek zubair along with his wife Beverly
derek zubair along with his wife Beverly she-bear in Botswana Derek and Beverly
she-bear in Botswana Derek and Beverly
she-bear in Botswana Derek and Beverly can you hear us yeah we just oh we may
can you hear us yeah we just oh we may
can you hear us yeah we just oh we may have lost me yes I can hello everybody
have lost me yes I can hello everybody
have lost me yes I can hello everybody hello Derek Botswana hi we can see you
hello Derek Botswana hi we can see you
hello Derek Botswana hi we can see you there it’s at night we can hear the
there it’s at night we can hear the
there it’s at night we can hear the crickets Derek and Beverly are joining
crickets Derek and Beverly are joining
crickets Derek and Beverly are joining us via satellite so the signal strength
us via satellite so the signal strength
us via satellite so the signal strength is quite low as you might imagine
is quite low as you might imagine
is quite low as you might imagine Shivani can you tell us a little bit
Shivani can you tell us a little bit
Shivani can you tell us a little bit more about what the lion warriors are
more about what the lion warriors are
more about what the lion warriors are doing in Kenya um so do when we start
doing in Kenya um so do when we start
doing in Kenya um so do when we start the program I worked with one warrior my
the program I worked with one warrior my
the program I worked with one warrior my assistant generator and he was only
assistant generator and he was only
assistant generator and he was only about 21 years of age when he started
about 21 years of age when he started
about 21 years of age when he started working with me after a couple of years
working with me after a couple of years
working with me after a couple of years he said you know the Warriors the young
he said you know the Warriors the young
he said you know the Warriors the young men the young some room n they’re out in
men the young some room n they’re out in
men the young some room n they’re out in the bush every day they’re the eyes and
the bush every day they’re the eyes and
the bush every day they’re the eyes and ears what’s really going on in this area
ears what’s really going on in this area
ears what’s really going on in this area and he said let’s bring on let’s bring
and he said let’s bring on let’s bring
and he said let’s bring on let’s bring them on board let’s track name them that
them on board let’s track name them that
them on board let’s track name them that educate them talk to them about
educate them talk to them about
educate them talk to them about importance of lions and see if they can
importance of lions and see if they can
importance of lions and see if they can be wildlife ambassadors in this region
be wildlife ambassadors in this region
be wildlife ambassadors in this region so um general staffs this program we
so um general staffs this program we
so um general staffs this program we started with five warriors now we have
started with five warriors now we have
started with five warriors now we have 15 they not only provide security for
15 they not only provide security for
15 they not only provide security for people and their livestock but they’re
people and their livestock but they’re
people and their livestock but they’re also providing security for all wildlife
also providing security for all wildlife
also providing security for all wildlife now they reduce conflict they encourage
now they reduce conflict they encourage
now they reduce conflict they encourage the communities to protect their
the communities to protect their
the communities to protect their livestock better they educate them they
livestock better they educate them they
livestock better they educate them they talk to them about importance appliance
talk to them about importance appliance
talk to them about importance appliance and a real a real champions real heroes
and a real a real champions real heroes
and a real a real champions real heroes when it comes to conservation just in
when it comes to conservation just in
when it comes to conservation just in the last couple of days we’ve lost so
the last couple of days we’ve lost so
the last couple of days we’ve lost so many let the cows to Lions 12 cows have
many let the cows to Lions 12 cows have
many let the cows to Lions 12 cows have been killed by lions just in the last
been killed by lions just in the last
been killed by lions just in the last couple of days and the Warriors are out
couple of days and the Warriors are out
couple of days and the Warriors are out there making sure that no one retaliates
there making sure that no one retaliates
there making sure that no one retaliates no one goes out and tries to kill the
no one goes out and tries to kill the
no one goes out and tries to kill the Lions because we really need them we
Lions because we really need them we
Lions because we really need them we need them in some room and the warrior
need them in some room and the warrior
need them in some room and the warrior such a key role in that so they have
such a key role in that so they have
such a key role in that so they have been very very busy in the last couple
been very very busy in the last couple
been very very busy in the last couple of games in dealing with these issues
of games in dealing with these issues
of games in dealing with these issues and shivani we’ve just got a question
and shivani we’ve just got a question
and shivani we’ve just got a question for you via social media speaking of
for you via social media speaking of
for you via social media speaking of losing livestock like that is this the
losing livestock like that is this the
losing livestock like that is this the largest threat retaliatory killing for
largest threat retaliatory killing for
largest threat retaliatory killing for loss of livestock to Lions in Africa and
loss of livestock to Lions in Africa and
loss of livestock to Lions in Africa and what can be done to prevent that in
what can be done to prevent that in
what can be done to prevent that in addition to the warrior speaking with
addition to the warrior speaking with
addition to the warrior speaking with local communities I’m sure they’re there
local communities I’m sure they’re there
local communities I’m sure they’re there too many reasons why why we’re losing
too many reasons why why we’re losing
too many reasons why why we’re losing Lions so quickly one is habitat loss
Lions so quickly one is habitat loss
Lions so quickly one is habitat loss lines are just running out of space and
lines are just running out of space and
lines are just running out of space and secondly yes it is retaliatory killing
secondly yes it is retaliatory killing
secondly yes it is retaliatory killing for the local san bern people livestock
for the local san bern people livestock
for the local san bern people livestock on their libraries who aniline long and
on their libraries who aniline long and
on their libraries who aniline long and kills their cow or their camel there’s a
kills their cow or their camel there’s a
kills their cow or their camel there’s a lot of anger resentment about this and
lot of anger resentment about this and
lot of anger resentment about this and often they will go out and kill those
often they will go out and kill those
often they will go out and kill those science but now worth you know with the
science but now worth you know with the
science but now worth you know with the Warriors going out and working with the
Warriors going out and working with the
Warriors going out and working with the communities they talk to them about how
communities they talk to them about how
communities they talk to them about how to better protect the livestock so if
to better protect the livestock so if
to better protect the livestock so if for example the cows are being kept in
for example the cows are being kept in
for example the cows are being kept in in livestock enclosures which are called
in livestock enclosures which are called
in livestock enclosures which are called bomas they encourage them and talk to
bomas they encourage them and talk to
bomas they encourage them and talk to them how to make better bomas make them
them how to make better bomas make them
them how to make better bomas make them reinforce them so it’s much more
reinforce them so it’s much more
reinforce them so it’s much more difficult but Lions to get in and
difficult but Lions to get in and
difficult but Lions to get in and difficult furs I’ve stopped this tree
difficult furs I’ve stopped this tree
difficult furs I’ve stopped this tree out at night so better husbandry
out at night so better husbandry
out at night so better husbandry improved bomas these are really this is
improved bomas these are really this is
improved bomas these are really this is really key to reduce the conflict from
really key to reduce the conflict from
really key to reduce the conflict from happening in the first place if no live
happening in the first place if no live
happening in the first place if no live soccer killed no lines will be killed
soccer killed no lines will be killed
soccer killed no lines will be killed December people are amazing they do want
December people are amazing they do want
December people are amazing they do want to live with wildlife but it’s when they
to live with wildlife but it’s when they
to live with wildlife but it’s when they lose so much to lions and other
lose so much to lions and other
lose so much to lions and other carnivores that’s when they want to go
carnivores that’s when they want to go
carnivores that’s when they want to go out and kill them so keeping the
out and kill them so keeping the
out and kill them so keeping the livestock better protected is really key
livestock better protected is really key
livestock better protected is really key to their survival so Shivani you were
to their survival so Shivani you were
to their survival so Shivani you were you were born in Kenya and Derek and
you were born in Kenya and Derek and
you were born in Kenya and Derek and Beverly you are also native Africans can
Beverly you are also native Africans can
Beverly you are also native Africans can you can you tell us Derek and Beverly
you can you tell us Derek and Beverly
you can you tell us Derek and Beverly having spent your entire lives in Africa
having spent your entire lives in Africa
having spent your entire lives in Africa and your entire lives dedicated to the
and your entire lives dedicated to the
and your entire lives dedicated to the protection of big cats first by filming
protection of big cats first by filming
protection of big cats first by filming them and learning more about them what
them and learning more about them what
them and learning more about them what drove you what was what was the
drove you what was what was the
drove you what was what was the inspiration to move
inspiration to move
inspiration to move just appreciating big cats in the field
just appreciating big cats in the field
just appreciating big cats in the field to what the big cats initiative is today
to what the big cats initiative is today
to what the big cats initiative is today directing Beverly well Luke I don’t know
directing Beverly well Luke I don’t know
directing Beverly well Luke I don’t know if you can hear us here better we’ll
if you can hear us here better we’ll
if you can hear us here better we’ll give it a try we sitting out in the in
give it a try we sitting out in the in
give it a try we sitting out in the in the dark here with lions behind us so
the dark here with lions behind us so
the dark here with lions behind us so let’s see how this works I think what
let’s see how this works I think what
let’s see how this works I think what originally drove us was was this
originally drove us was was this
originally drove us was was this appreciation of these these animals out
appreciation of these these animals out
appreciation of these these animals out in the wild these magnificent animals
in the wild these magnificent animals
in the wild these magnificent animals that are really the iconic creatures of
that are really the iconic creatures of
that are really the iconic creatures of Africa big melons in particular and then
Africa big melons in particular and then
Africa big melons in particular and then seeing them disappear unlike in
seeing them disappear unlike in
seeing them disappear unlike in shivani’s area where there’s no trophy
shivani’s area where there’s no trophy
shivani’s area where there’s no trophy hunting we grew up in an area in
hunting we grew up in an area in
hunting we grew up in an area in Botswana where there was trophy hunting
Botswana where there was trophy hunting
Botswana where there was trophy hunting up until this year and we were seeing
up until this year and we were seeing
up until this year and we were seeing these beautiful big male lions being
these beautiful big male lions being
these beautiful big male lions being shot every few days and I think that
shot every few days and I think that
shot every few days and I think that turned us into into advocates and
turned us into into advocates and
turned us into into advocates and probably fueled our obsession and
probably fueled our obsession and
probably fueled our obsession and fashion for us and through all the time
fashion for us and through all the time
fashion for us and through all the time of Derek and I forming and that’s over a
of Derek and I forming and that’s over a
of Derek and I forming and that’s over a 30 year period you know we’ve had a
30 year period you know we’ve had a
30 year period you know we’ve had a chance to actually get to understand
chance to actually get to understand
chance to actually get to understand these creatures both leopards and lions
these creatures both leopards and lions
these creatures both leopards and lions and that they all have individual
and that they all have individual
and that they all have individual personalities there are individual
personalities there are individual
personalities there are individual characters just like us and those in
characters just like us and those in
characters just like us and those in when you’re you know that we had with a
when you’re you know that we had with a
when you’re you know that we had with a leopard we just had to be in the
leopard we just had to be in the
leopard we just had to be in the ambassador’s and so I forms of our
ambassador’s and so I forms of our
ambassador’s and so I forms of our ambassadors he creatures in the forms
ambassadors he creatures in the forms
ambassadors he creatures in the forms are ambassadors but we knew that we had
are ambassadors but we knew that we had
are ambassadors but we knew that we had to take action and that’s really why the
to take action and that’s really why the
to take action and that’s really why the big head initiative was founded with the
big head initiative was founded with the
big head initiative was founded with the geograph quick thank yous and they’re
geograph quick thank yous and they’re
geograph quick thank yous and they’re all your motion no we are million miles
all your motion no we are million miles
all your motion no we are million miles away and I know that you bet need to
away and I know that you bet need to
away and I know that you bet need to hear us but I really hope you can hear
hear us but I really hope you can hear
hear us but I really hope you can hear us us in the dollars weekend Beverly I’m
us us in the dollars weekend Beverly I’m
us us in the dollars weekend Beverly I’m noticing the Magnificent shirt that
noticing the Magnificent shirt that
noticing the Magnificent shirt that you’re wearing and Derek I read an
you’re wearing and Derek I read an
you’re wearing and Derek I read an article that you penned
article that you penned
article that you penned appeared just yesterday about leopards
appeared just yesterday about leopards
appeared just yesterday about leopards and leopard prints could you tell us a
and leopard prints could you tell us a
and leopard prints could you tell us a little bit about the overlap of leopards
little bit about the overlap of leopards
little bit about the overlap of leopards and leopard fashion and what the future
and leopard fashion and what the future
and leopard fashion and what the future may hold that’s right luke them d
I think we may have lost Derek and
I think we may have lost Derek and Beverly there but to describe this this
Beverly there but to describe this this
Beverly there but to describe this this uh this post that Derek had dot and he
uh this post that Derek had dot and he
uh this post that Derek had dot and he and spit not thinking there are article
and spit not thinking there are article
and spit not thinking there are article that in the beginning are really worried
that in the beginning are really worried
that in the beginning are really worried about the fact that people were using
about the fact that people were using
about the fact that people were using faux leopard skins and it was becoming
faux leopard skins and it was becoming
faux leopard skins and it was becoming so far down to about 50,000 now and when
so far down to about 50,000 now and when
so far down to about 50,000 now and when Beverly and I were born that number was
Beverly and I were born that number was
Beverly and I were born that number was 700,000 so we have to pay attention to
700,000 so we have to pay attention to
700,000 so we have to pay attention to each one of these big cats now but but
each one of these big cats now but but
each one of these big cats now but but we are celebrating right now a leopard
we are celebrating right now a leopard
we are celebrating right now a leopard in this area the female is called amber
in this area the female is called amber
in this area the female is called amber you know because of her beautiful amber
you know because of her beautiful amber
you know because of her beautiful amber eyes and her coloring and three weeks
eyes and her coloring and three weeks
eyes and her coloring and three weeks ago she gave birth to an individual
ago she gave birth to an individual
ago she gave birth to an individual little cub who is absolutely incredible
little cub who is absolutely incredible
little cub who is absolutely incredible his visit we’re not sure of the sex
his visit we’re not sure of the sex
his visit we’re not sure of the sex right now but this little thing has been
right now but this little thing has been
right now but this little thing has been tucked up in a cage area africana tree
tucked up in a cage area africana tree
tucked up in a cage area africana tree so we really are excited and we’re going
so we really are excited and we’re going
so we really are excited and we’re going to you know follow um this little Cubs
to you know follow um this little Cubs
to you know follow um this little Cubs life hopefully oh yeah I can’t wait to
life hopefully oh yeah I can’t wait to
life hopefully oh yeah I can’t wait to see more about that um krithi what kind
see more about that um krithi what kind
see more about that um krithi what kind of leopard protection and leopard
of leopard protection and leopard
of leopard protection and leopard threats do you experience in India
threats do you experience in India
threats do you experience in India Chrissy oh I think leopards are in
Chrissy oh I think leopards are in
Chrissy oh I think leopards are in serious trouble in India because most
serious trouble in India because most
serious trouble in India because most leopards don’t live in force like our
leopards don’t live in force like our
leopards don’t live in force like our Tigers do so I think most levels are
Tigers do so I think most levels are
Tigers do so I think most levels are found in sugarcane fields we found them
found in sugarcane fields we found them
found in sugarcane fields we found them in no paddy fields and so there’s a lot
in no paddy fields and so there’s a lot
in no paddy fields and so there’s a lot of conflict now with the leopards living
of conflict now with the leopards living
of conflict now with the leopards living amidst people but there’s every time a
amidst people but there’s every time a
amidst people but there’s every time a cow is killed there’s retaliation and
cow is killed there’s retaliation and
cow is killed there’s retaliation and then these mob scenes take place where
then these mob scenes take place where
then these mob scenes take place where the government or the police or the
the government or the police or the
the government or the police or the first apartments really not able to deal
first apartments really not able to deal
first apartments really not able to deal with these moms and their leopards the
with these moms and their leopards the
with these moms and their leopards the Bing end up being horribly injured or
Bing end up being horribly injured or
Bing end up being horribly injured or stoned or burned to death and this is
stoned or burned to death and this is
stoned or burned to death and this is becoming pretty common if you read any
becoming pretty common if you read any
becoming pretty common if you read any Indian newspaper today as always some
Indian newspaper today as always some
Indian newspaper today as always some leopard incident being reported across
leopard incident being reported across
leopard incident being reported across India it’s a fascinating thing that
India it’s a fascinating thing that
India it’s a fascinating thing that leopards are one of the
leopards are one of the
leopards are one of the most geographically widespread of the
most geographically widespread of the
most geographically widespread of the big cats going from southern Africa all
big cats going from southern Africa all
big cats going from southern Africa all the way to Southeast Asia but I’ve yet
the way to Southeast Asia but I’ve yet
the way to Southeast Asia but I’ve yet to hear a report of anywhere that
to hear a report of anywhere that
to hear a report of anywhere that leopards appear to be just doing just
leopards appear to be just doing just
leopards appear to be just doing just fine and people cherish and protect them
fine and people cherish and protect them
fine and people cherish and protect them universally in any individual area
universally in any individual area
universally in any individual area Shivani how often are leopards the
Shivani how often are leopards the
Shivani how often are leopards the culprits of livestock theft in some brew
culprits of livestock theft in some brew
culprits of livestock theft in some brew I’m actually your featherbed most better
I’m actually your featherbed most better
I’m actually your featherbed most better biggest culprit um leopards and hyenas
biggest culprit um leopards and hyenas
biggest culprit um leopards and hyenas cause the most problems they’re the ones
cause the most problems they’re the ones
cause the most problems they’re the ones who kill livestock often especially now
who kill livestock often especially now
who kill livestock often especially now in the wet season we will have conflict
in the wet season we will have conflict
in the wet season we will have conflict incidences with with records almost
incidences with with records almost
incidences with with records almost every day so definitely leopards and
every day so definitely leopards and
every day so definitely leopards and hyenas cause no problems and the Lions
hyenas cause no problems and the Lions
hyenas cause no problems and the Lions do now Derek and Beverly I hope you can
do now Derek and Beverly I hope you can
do now Derek and Beverly I hope you can still hear us would you agree with with
still hear us would you agree with with
still hear us would you agree with with what we’re hearing here that leopards in
what we’re hearing here that leopards in
what we’re hearing here that leopards in fact maybe the most persecuted of all
fact maybe the most persecuted of all
fact maybe the most persecuted of all the big cats um look which one you say
the big cats um look which one you say
the big cats um look which one you say is the most persecuted would you agree
is the most persecuted would you agree
is the most persecuted would you agree that leopards may be the most persecuted
that leopards may be the most persecuted
that leopards may be the most persecuted even though they may be the most
even though they may be the most
even though they may be the most geographically widespread oh yes great i
geographically widespread oh yes great i
geographically widespread oh yes great i think we’re definitely because
think we’re definitely because
think we’re definitely because specifically because leopards are able
specifically because leopards are able
specifically because leopards are able to go further and further and closer
to go further and further and closer
to go further and further and closer into civilization so you find leopards
into civilization so you find leopards
into civilization so you find leopards now 11 kilometers outside of
now 11 kilometers outside of
now 11 kilometers outside of Johannesburg and of course they were
Johannesburg and of course they were
Johannesburg and of course they were then running into all of the things that
then running into all of the things that
then running into all of the things that that civilized man has mainly dogs and
that civilized man has mainly dogs and
that civilized man has mainly dogs and cats and sheep and goats so very
cats and sheep and goats so very
cats and sheep and goats so very difficult leopards are living right as I
difficult leopards are living right as I
difficult leopards are living right as I or in India right up against the the
or in India right up against the the
or in India right up against the the frontier so to speak of civilization and
frontier so to speak of civilization and
frontier so to speak of civilization and so there’s quite a lot of conflict with
so there’s quite a lot of conflict with
so there’s quite a lot of conflict with leopards refunding certainly much more
leopards refunding certainly much more
leopards refunding certainly much more than with lions Thank You Derek um speak
than with lions Thank You Derek um speak
than with lions Thank You Derek um speak the technology like the satellite
the technology like the satellite
the technology like the satellite technology we’re using to continue to
technology we’re using to continue to
technology we’re using to continue to try and stay connected with Derek and
try and stay connected with Derek and
try and stay connected with Derek and Beverly in Botswana another piece of
Beverly in Botswana another piece of
Beverly in Botswana another piece of technology that conservationists use our
technology that conservationists use our
technology that conservationists use our camera traps and Chrissy you’ve been
camera traps and Chrissy you’ve been
camera traps and Chrissy you’ve been using camera traps quite extensively in
using camera traps quite extensively in
using camera traps quite extensively in in India have you not yeah the WCS India
in India have you not yeah the WCS India
in India have you not yeah the WCS India program now has been camera trapping
program now has been camera trapping
program now has been camera trapping Tigers for almost tigers and leopards
Tigers for almost tigers and leopards
Tigers for almost tigers and leopards for almost 20 years so I think that
for almost 20 years so I think that
for almost 20 years so I think that Finley is one of the longest-running
Finley is one of the longest-running
Finley is one of the longest-running science programs focused on big cats in
science programs focused on big cats in
science programs focused on big cats in the world and what we found is that it’s
the world and what we found is that it’s
the world and what we found is that it’s it’s very easy to identify tigers and
it’s very easy to identify tigers and
it’s very easy to identify tigers and leopards through their striped patterns
leopards through their striped patterns
leopards through their striped patterns making it very cost effective cover very
making it very cost effective cover very
making it very cost effective cover very very large areas where you know wait we
very large areas where you know wait we
very large areas where you know wait we can make a color and track individuals
can make a color and track individuals
can make a color and track individuals but really get very accurate estimates
but really get very accurate estimates
but really get very accurate estimates of population sizes of both these cats
of population sizes of both these cats
of population sizes of both these cats across the western ghats and other parts
across the western ghats and other parts
across the western ghats and other parts of India no we have a question for you
of India no we have a question for you
of India no we have a question for you Chrissy from dipping John Mitra who
Chrissy from dipping John Mitra who
Chrissy from dipping John Mitra who posted on Facebook what is the future of
posted on Facebook what is the future of
posted on Facebook what is the future of the Bengal tiger in india with the
the Bengal tiger in india with the
the Bengal tiger in india with the forests vanishing so fast um the future
forests vanishing so fast um the future
forests vanishing so fast um the future and i think has to be bright has to be
and i think has to be bright has to be
and i think has to be bright has to be one that we fight for simply because
one that we fight for simply because
one that we fight for simply because india has you know forty percent of the
india has you know forty percent of the
india has you know forty percent of the world’s tigers and I think yes Tigers
world’s tigers and I think yes Tigers
world’s tigers and I think yes Tigers are in serious trouble they’ve
are in serious trouble they’ve
are in serious trouble they’ve disappeared from over ninety three
disappeared from over ninety three
disappeared from over ninety three percent of where they were historically
percent of where they were historically
percent of where they were historically in Asia they’ve disappeared from 70
in Asia they’ve disappeared from 70
in Asia they’ve disappeared from 70 almost seventy percent of India but
almost seventy percent of India but
almost seventy percent of India but they’re still holding on and i have seen
they’re still holding on and i have seen
they’re still holding on and i have seen places where Tigers have come back with
places where Tigers have come back with
places where Tigers have come back with effective protection and monitoring of
effective protection and monitoring of
effective protection and monitoring of trade tiger and it’s basically getting
trade tiger and it’s basically getting
trade tiger and it’s basically getting boots from the ground and making sure
boots from the ground and making sure
boots from the ground and making sure poachers don’t get to them and they have
poachers don’t get to them and they have
poachers don’t get to them and they have enough prey to eat and we’ve seen tiger
enough prey to eat and we’ve seen tiger
enough prey to eat and we’ve seen tiger populations that were completely
populations that were completely
populations that were completely decimated 50 years ago recover in parts
decimated 50 years ago recover in parts
decimated 50 years ago recover in parts of southern India so I am very very
of southern India so I am very very
of southern India so I am very very hopeful because India has now the
hopeful because India has now the
hopeful because India has now the resources the money and the technology
resources the money and the technology
resources the money and the technology to save tigers now I think it’s a matter
to save tigers now I think it’s a matter
to save tigers now I think it’s a matter of will and getting the best people you
of will and getting the best people you
of will and getting the best people you know to focus on this rather than
know to focus on this rather than
know to focus on this rather than getting get distracted by all the extra
getting get distracted by all the extra
getting get distracted by all the extra stuff that’s going on I wish they would
stuff that’s going on I wish they would
stuff that’s going on I wish they would do the same for lepers you know we have
do the same for lepers you know we have
do the same for lepers you know we have 600 crores devoted to protecting Tigers
600 crores devoted to protecting Tigers
600 crores devoted to protecting Tigers me almost have nothing Shepherd so this
me almost have nothing Shepherd so this
me almost have nothing Shepherd so this is the this is I’m glad you brought up
is the this is I’m glad you brought up
is the this is I’m glad you brought up the leopard issue because it is a clear
the leopard issue because it is a clear
the leopard issue because it is a clear you know every tiger every Tiger gets so
you know every tiger every Tiger gets so
you know every tiger every Tiger gets so much more attention than leopard and
much more attention than leopard and
much more attention than leopard and it’s not like we have a lot of leopards
it’s not like we have a lot of leopards
it’s not like we have a lot of leopards left I mean we don’t even know how many
left I mean we don’t even know how many
left I mean we don’t even know how many lepers we have in India’s is somewhere
lepers we have in India’s is somewhere
lepers we have in India’s is somewhere between five and ten thousand left and
between five and ten thousand left and
between five and ten thousand left and we lost theatre in nineteen sixty so big
we lost theatre in nineteen sixty so big
we lost theatre in nineteen sixty so big cats are in pretty serious trouble and
cats are in pretty serious trouble and
cats are in pretty serious trouble and lions we have less than four hundred
lions we have less than four hundred
lions we have less than four hundred lines left in India you know but Tigers
lines left in India you know but Tigers
lines left in India you know but Tigers get all the attention deservedly so but
get all the attention deservedly so but
get all the attention deservedly so but we need to talk about all the big cats
we need to talk about all the big cats
we need to talk about all the big cats right now great as a follow-up to that
right now great as a follow-up to that
right now great as a follow-up to that Chrissy we have a question from Emily
Chrissy we have a question from Emily
Chrissy we have a question from Emily Earhart from Nepal who has asked
Earhart from Nepal who has asked
Earhart from Nepal who has asked although camera trapping helps to
although camera trapping helps to
although camera trapping helps to monitor Tigers what additional steps are
monitor Tigers what additional steps are
monitor Tigers what additional steps are being taken to stop poaching since
being taken to stop poaching since
being taken to stop poaching since that’s one of the biggest threats to the
that’s one of the biggest threats to the
that’s one of the biggest threats to the tiger population I think local efforts
tiger population I think local efforts
tiger population I think local efforts including just include having enough
including just include having enough
including just include having enough protection at every wildlife reserve
protection at every wildlife reserve
protection at every wildlife reserve having boots on the ground having people
having boots on the ground having people
having boots on the ground having people being out there in the field every day
being out there in the field every day
being out there in the field every day monitoring the stuff I mean people have
monitoring the stuff I mean people have
monitoring the stuff I mean people have talked about introducing drones but the
talked about introducing drones but the
talked about introducing drones but the forest cover is so dense it’s really
forest cover is so dense it’s really
forest cover is so dense it’s really hard pick up quoting from drones in a
hard pick up quoting from drones in a
hard pick up quoting from drones in a context like India where as in Africa I
context like India where as in Africa I
context like India where as in Africa I think it would work much better so it
think it would work much better so it
think it would work much better so it still comes down to having people
still comes down to having people
still comes down to having people driving around and walking around
driving around and walking around
driving around and walking around keeping an eye on porches and then
keeping an eye on porches and then
keeping an eye on porches and then wildlife trade as massive the pressure
wildlife trade as massive the pressure
wildlife trade as massive the pressure from you know particularly China is
from you know particularly China is
from you know particularly China is still rampant so all the tiger bones and
still rampant so all the tiger bones and
still rampant so all the tiger bones and tins he’s done in the arm not really
tins he’s done in the arm not really
tins he’s done in the arm not really domestically consumed this is for a
domestically consumed this is for a
domestically consumed this is for a large commercial markets with that sound
large commercial markets with that sound
large commercial markets with that sound less than three thousand Tigers left
less than three thousand Tigers left
less than three thousand Tigers left there’s men’s pressure each skin has
there’s men’s pressure each skin has
there’s men’s pressure each skin has huge value in the in global market now
huge value in the in global market now
huge value in the in global market now Wow Boone can you tell us a little bit
Wow Boone can you tell us a little bit
Wow Boone can you tell us a little bit about the technology that you use to
about the technology that you use to
about the technology that you use to track Cougars um yeah I’ve been this is
track Cougars um yeah I’ve been this is
track Cougars um yeah I’ve been this is the really cool thing about today’s day
the really cool thing about today’s day
the really cool thing about today’s day and age is technology changes so fast I
and age is technology changes so fast I
and age is technology changes so fast I think about 15 years ago when I started
think about 15 years ago when I started
think about 15 years ago when I started and this was the this was the standard
and this was the this was the standard
and this was the this was the standard piece of equipment a VHF radio collar
piece of equipment a VHF radio collar
piece of equipment a VHF radio collar and emits a signal we have to run we
and emits a signal we have to run we
and emits a signal we have to run we actually locate that every day but now
actually locate that every day but now
actually locate that every day but now with GPS technology and the other
with GPS technology and the other
with GPS technology and the other changes um where we just we put a collar
changes um where we just we put a collar
changes um where we just we put a collar out saturday in fact and this is a color
out saturday in fact and this is a color
out saturday in fact and this is a color that is going to get a location every
that is going to get a location every
that is going to get a location every hour and when we start to think about
hour and when we start to think about
hour and when we start to think about how you can piece together the movements
how you can piece together the movements
how you can piece together the movements of an animal from where it beds to wear
of an animal from where it beds to wear
of an animal from where it beds to wear a harness to the habitat use all of a
a harness to the habitat use all of a
a harness to the habitat use all of a sudden we can take such a different
sudden we can take such a different
sudden we can take such a different story of things and I look at the things
story of things and I look at the things
story of things and I look at the things that we now learn no Cougars have been
that we now learn no Cougars have been
that we now learn no Cougars have been really well studied throughout the
really well studied throughout the
really well studied throughout the United States and we know a lot about
United States and we know a lot about
United States and we know a lot about Cougars now we’ve not only got GPS
Cougars now we’ve not only got GPS
Cougars now we’ve not only got GPS collars you’ve got incredible camera
collars you’ve got incredible camera
collars you’ve got incredible camera technology um the things that I see now
technology um the things that I see now
technology um the things that I see now on cameras and we put them upon kills
on cameras and we put them upon kills
on cameras and we put them upon kills that the social behaviors and this is
that the social behaviors and this is
that the social behaviors and this is the animal we’re supposed to know the
the animal we’re supposed to know the
the animal we’re supposed to know the most about Krugers and I’m seeing things
most about Krugers and I’m seeing things
most about Krugers and I’m seeing things I’ve never seen before I’ve never heard
I’ve never seen before I’ve never heard
I’ve never seen before I’ve never heard of before I’ve never read about in
of before I’ve never read about in
of before I’ve never read about in papers and so technologies made it a
papers and so technologies made it a
papers and so technologies made it a really exciting time I think for for all
really exciting time I think for for all
really exciting time I think for for all of science and research on it gives us a
of science and research on it gives us a
of science and research on it gives us a great opportunity not only to learn more
great opportunity not only to learn more
great opportunity not only to learn more about it but with the video on camera
about it but with the video on camera
about it but with the video on camera technology we had a showcase if data is
technology we had a showcase if data is
technology we had a showcase if data is becoming visual and I think that’s
becoming visual and I think that’s
becoming visual and I think that’s exciting because it’s not just dots on a
exciting because it’s not just dots on a
exciting because it’s not just dots on a map anymore we’re able to showcase the
map anymore we’re able to showcase the
map anymore we’re able to showcase the show the social structures and the
show the social structures and the
show the social structures and the intimate moments and I think that does a
intimate moments and I think that does a
intimate moments and I think that does a great job they’re getting people excited
great job they’re getting people excited
great job they’re getting people excited about the cause because now it’s not
about the cause because now it’s not
about the cause because now it’s not just words on paper we’re seen in people
just words on paper we’re seen in people
just words on paper we’re seen in people see that go wow that’s incredible how do
see that go wow that’s incredible how do
see that go wow that’s incredible how do I get involved in so i think we’re at a
I get involved in so i think we’re at a
I get involved in so i think we’re at a time better than ever before to make a
time better than ever before to make a
time better than ever before to make a difference in the big gabbro shivani one
difference in the big gabbro shivani one
difference in the big gabbro shivani one of the things that struck me was was how
of the things that struck me was was how
of the things that struck me was was how text messaging is actually helping to
text messaging is actually helping to
text messaging is actually helping to protect lions in kenya can you tell us
protect lions in kenya can you tell us
protect lions in kenya can you tell us about how texting is actually a big cat
about how texting is actually a big cat
about how texting is actually a big cat conservation tool I’m sure Luke so we
conservation tool I’m sure Luke so we
conservation tool I’m sure Luke so we have a program called lion watch and
have a program called lion watch and
have a program called lion watch and some of our guides um who are in talk in
some of our guides um who are in talk in
some of our guides um who are in talk in the protected area every day every time
the protected area every day every time
the protected area every day every time they see lions they text us and they
they see lions they text us and they
they see lions they text us and they tell us what’s going on with the Lions
tell us what’s going on with the Lions
tell us what’s going on with the Lions who they see they know all the names of
who they see they know all the names of
who they see they know all the names of the Lions after they’ve received some
the Lions after they’ve received some
the Lions after they’ve received some training from us and they all have apps
training from us and they all have apps
training from us and they all have apps on their phones so they can actually
on their phones so they can actually
on their phones so they can actually record this data and we can be online
record this data and we can be online
record this data and we can be online and we can see what they’re seeing
and we can see what they’re seeing
and we can see what they’re seeing so because so much of our efforts are
so because so much of our efforts are
so because so much of our efforts are outside with the community getting this
outside with the community getting this
outside with the community getting this information daily from these line watch
information daily from these line watch
information daily from these line watch guides is fantastic we’ve got 20 guides
guides is fantastic we’ve got 20 guides
guides is fantastic we’ve got 20 guides now all trained sending us text messages
now all trained sending us text messages
now all trained sending us text messages every day and recording date on who they
every day and recording date on who they
every day and recording date on who they see and where they see them so it’s
see and where they see them so it’s
see and where they see them so it’s fantastic it’s got you know with we’ve
fantastic it’s got you know with we’ve
fantastic it’s got you know with we’ve got this great network that’s really
got this great network that’s really
got this great network that’s really working well and sunroof everyone
working well and sunroof everyone
working well and sunroof everyone excited and enthusiastic about the lion
excited and enthusiastic about the lion
excited and enthusiastic about the lion population that so we’ve heard about
population that so we’ve heard about
population that so we’ve heard about camera traps we’ve heard about drones
camera traps we’ve heard about drones
camera traps we’ve heard about drones we’ve heard about radio collars we’ve
we’ve heard about radio collars we’ve
we’ve heard about radio collars we’ve heard about text messaging Derek and
heard about text messaging Derek and
heard about text messaging Derek and Beverly you are visionaries in the big
Beverly you are visionaries in the big
Beverly you are visionaries in the big cat conservation world the big cats
cat conservation world the big cats
cat conservation world the big cats initiative exists because of your vision
initiative exists because of your vision
initiative exists because of your vision and thousands of big cats worldwide are
and thousands of big cats worldwide are
and thousands of big cats worldwide are protected because of the implementation
protected because of the implementation
protected because of the implementation of your visions if you had to reflect
of your visions if you had to reflect
of your visions if you had to reflect and project on technology in the future
and project on technology in the future
and project on technology in the future for big cat conservation what would you
for big cat conservation what would you
for big cat conservation what would you like to see oh it’s a good question look
like to see oh it’s a good question look
like to see oh it’s a good question look it’s a broad strokes I think that what
it’s a broad strokes I think that what
it’s a broad strokes I think that what we would like to see is a generation of
we would like to see is a generation of
we would like to see is a generation of of kids coming up that start talking
of kids coming up that start talking
of kids coming up that start talking more about how we can co-exist and live
more about how we can co-exist and live
more about how we can co-exist and live in harmony with big cats I think that
in harmony with big cats I think that
in harmony with big cats I think that good boundaries will help that but
good boundaries will help that but
good boundaries will help that but really and truly it’s the kids that are
really and truly it’s the kids that are
really and truly it’s the kids that are going to help us must we at the moment
going to help us must we at the moment
going to help us must we at the moment we’re in the in the bush on here we’ve
we’re in the in the bush on here we’ve
we’re in the in the bush on here we’ve got one of our camps that we’ve closed
got one of our camps that we’ve closed
got one of our camps that we’ve closed down and we’ve got a whole lot of kids
down and we’ve got a whole lot of kids
down and we’ve got a whole lot of kids in these are the kids that come from a
in these are the kids that come from a
in these are the kids that come from a demographic where their parents are most
demographic where their parents are most
demographic where their parents are most likely purchase and we’re running this
likely purchase and we’re running this
likely purchase and we’re running this Conservation Camp at the moment talking
Conservation Camp at the moment talking
Conservation Camp at the moment talking to these kids and it just is astounding
to these kids and it just is astounding
to these kids and it just is astounding are when you see them they arrive on the
are when you see them they arrive on the
are when you see them they arrive on the first day and they get exposed to be
first day and they get exposed to be
first day and they get exposed to be cats be with them with lions this
cats be with them with lions this
cats be with them with lions this morning actually and they terrify and
morning actually and they terrify and
morning actually and they terrify and and they hate the bull but Janet’s and
and they hate the bull but Janet’s and
and they hate the bull but Janet’s and it’s that thing that’s against them but
it’s that thing that’s against them but
it’s that thing that’s against them but after three or four days they’re full of
after three or four days they’re full of
after three or four days they’re full of smile
smile
smile I’ll Sunday that move on more we should
I’ll Sunday that move on more we should
I’ll Sunday that move on more we should be reaching out to the children and the
be reaching out to the children and the
be reaching out to the children and the children will have that amazing ability
children will have that amazing ability
children will have that amazing ability to influence their period and so we’re
to influence their period and so we’re
to influence their period and so we’re going to be spending more and more about
going to be spending more and more about
going to be spending more and more about I’m dealing with kids in particular kids
I’m dealing with kids in particular kids
I’m dealing with kids in particular kids street kids or three or kids in Botswana
street kids or three or kids in Botswana
street kids or three or kids in Botswana narrow or in Africa in general that that
narrow or in Africa in general that that
narrow or in Africa in general that that are of the lowest income groups and
are of the lowest income groups and
are of the lowest income groups and probably born in to poaching families
probably born in to poaching families
probably born in to poaching families and I think right now we rarely do our
and I think right now we rarely do our
and I think right now we rarely do our optimism continues purely because we see
optimism continues purely because we see
optimism continues purely because we see we started to see and hear that many of
we started to see and hear that many of
we started to see and hear that many of the other African countries might follow
the other African countries might follow
the other African countries might follow suit but if then oh not gonna follow
suit but if then oh not gonna follow
suit but if then oh not gonna follow suit then all listening to the condo
suit then all listening to the condo
suit then all listening to the condo is karma and so that also gives us
is karma and so that also gives us
is karma and so that also gives us hope it’s really from from the bottom up
hope it’s really from from the bottom up
hope it’s really from from the bottom up which is what we’re doing now with but
which is what we’re doing now with but
which is what we’re doing now with but still working they’re very closely with
a political leaders of them who
a political leaders of them who obviously can make sweeping thur 12 and
obviously can make sweeping thur 12 and
obviously can make sweeping thur 12 and all the Warriors out there everybody
all the Warriors out there everybody
all the Warriors out there everybody from India to Kenya and in Botswana and
from India to Kenya and in Botswana and
from India to Kenya and in Botswana and every single country that we actually
every single country that we actually
every single country that we actually can’t be complacent we do have to
can’t be complacent we do have to
can’t be complacent we do have to continue the work because whenever use
continue the work because whenever use
continue the work because whenever use with I mean whenever any of us you know
with I mean whenever any of us you know
with I mean whenever any of us you know sort of hesitate come on I ain’t to open
sort of hesitate come on I ain’t to open
sort of hesitate come on I ain’t to open up hunting vision and more or POTUS or
up hunting vision and more or POTUS or
up hunting vision and more or POTUS or the AI just wants that we feel we have
the AI just wants that we feel we have
the AI just wants that we feel we have to be a lot more aggressive in is
to be a lot more aggressive in is
to be a lot more aggressive in is getting that awareness campaign in Asia
getting that awareness campaign in Asia
getting that awareness campaign in Asia so that the children in Asia can make
so that the children in Asia can make
so that the children in Asia can make the conscious decision to change those
the conscious decision to change those
the conscious decision to change those ancient cultural beliefs in utilizing
ancient cultural beliefs in utilizing
ancient cultural beliefs in utilizing you know all animal products from shafin
you know all animal products from shafin
you know all animal products from shafin to line burns to tiger burns that is
to line burns to tiger burns that is
to line burns to tiger burns that is really what we have to
really what we have to
really what we have to eradicate right now Thank You Derek and
eradicate right now Thank You Derek and
eradicate right now Thank You Derek and Beverly I have a follow-up question from
Beverly I have a follow-up question from
Beverly I have a follow-up question from you that’s come from Ali case who’s with
you that’s come from Ali case who’s with
you that’s come from Ali case who’s with us on google+ right now your careers
us on google+ right now your careers
us on google+ right now your careers take a lot of dedication which is much
take a lot of dedication which is much
take a lot of dedication which is much appreciated what keeps you inspired
appreciated what keeps you inspired
appreciated what keeps you inspired because this is a challenge is a
because this is a challenge is a
because this is a challenge is a constant lifelong challenge what keeps
constant lifelong challenge what keeps
constant lifelong challenge what keeps you inspired I believe the board has
you inspired I believe the board has
you inspired I believe the board has kept us inspired is truly been able to
kept us inspired is truly been able to
kept us inspired is truly been able to have the connection with these
have the connection with these
have the connection with these incredible creatures and some you know
incredible creatures and some you know
incredible creatures and some you know it’s it’s it’s the energy of what we
it’s it’s it’s the energy of what we
it’s it’s it’s the energy of what we seeing and also not actually knowing
seeing and also not actually knowing
seeing and also not actually knowing everything out a film that we bring out
everything out a film that we bring out
everything out a film that we bring out with managed to bring something new and
with managed to bring something new and
with managed to bring something new and exciting term to the world so I think
exciting term to the world so I think
exciting term to the world so I think that really is what is inspiring us more
that really is what is inspiring us more
that really is what is inspiring us more than anything else and certainly yeah I
than anything else and certainly yeah I
than anything else and certainly yeah I mean
and we have faith we have faith in
and we have faith we have faith in humanity to do the right thing at this
humanity to do the right thing at this
humanity to do the right thing at this point faith is a strong factor that’s
point faith is a strong factor that’s
point faith is a strong factor that’s for sure Boone how do you stay inspired
for sure Boone how do you stay inspired
for sure Boone how do you stay inspired um I think Derek and Beverly nailed it i
um I think Derek and Beverly nailed it i
um I think Derek and Beverly nailed it i think the idea of discovering excitement
think the idea of discovering excitement
think the idea of discovering excitement and something new and need what the
and something new and need what the
and something new and need what the individuals bring to the game and and
individuals bring to the game and and
individuals bring to the game and and it’s you know after is i mean everyone
it’s you know after is i mean everyone
it’s you know after is i mean everyone here has a lot of years of experience
here has a lot of years of experience
here has a lot of years of experience and to know that you can go out tomorrow
and to know that you can go out tomorrow
and to know that you can go out tomorrow and see something that you’ve never seen
and see something that you’ve never seen
and see something that you’ve never seen before you have a witness that’s
before you have a witness that’s
before you have a witness that’s exciting I mean that that’s the whole
exciting I mean that that’s the whole
exciting I mean that that’s the whole part of the adventure and discovery and
part of the adventure and discovery and
part of the adventure and discovery and and then you have an animal that job is
and then you have an animal that job is
and then you have an animal that job is so dynamic in a species as far as big
so dynamic in a species as far as big
so dynamic in a species as far as big cats and they’re so dynamic and they
cats and they’re so dynamic and they
cats and they’re so dynamic and they bring us so I mean we gained so much
bring us so I mean we gained so much
bring us so I mean we gained so much from watching them do their thing
from watching them do their thing
from watching them do their thing they’re majestic their incredible their
they’re majestic their incredible their
they’re majestic their incredible their inspiring and I think it’s an easy thing
inspiring and I think it’s an easy thing
inspiring and I think it’s an easy thing I don’t think it’s hard to be inspired
I don’t think it’s hard to be inspired
I don’t think it’s hard to be inspired when you deal with big gaps I think as
when you deal with big gaps I think as
when you deal with big gaps I think as soon as you put yourself out there be
soon as you put yourself out there be
soon as you put yourself out there be involved it just naturally happens and
involved it just naturally happens and
involved it just naturally happens and Chrissy what sort of challenges and
Chrissy what sort of challenges and
Chrissy what sort of challenges and renewals do you experience in India it’s
renewals do you experience in India it’s
renewals do you experience in India it’s so hard to see tigers and leopards I I
so hard to see tigers and leopards I I
so hard to see tigers and leopards I I mean every time I bought that just just
mean every time I bought that just just
mean every time I bought that just just the opportunity to even hopefully get a
the opportunity to even hopefully get a
the opportunity to even hopefully get a glimpse of one of these cats is enough I
glimpse of one of these cats is enough I
glimpse of one of these cats is enough I I mean that that’s good enough for me
I mean that that’s good enough for me
I mean that that’s good enough for me and you know three years ago I took my
and you know three years ago I took my
and you know three years ago I took my four-year-old and I saw her see her
four-year-old and I saw her see her
four-year-old and I saw her see her first leopard and she stood up jumping
first leopard and she stood up jumping
first leopard and she stood up jumping around saying I saw my first leopard and
around saying I saw my first leopard and
around saying I saw my first leopard and to me that moment keeps coming back over
to me that moment keeps coming back over
to me that moment keeps coming back over it over and over again my dad my
it over and over again my dad my
it over and over again my dad my daughter and I seeing this one female
daughter and I seeing this one female
daughter and I seeing this one female leopard for about 20 minutes and there
leopard for about 20 minutes and there
leopard for about 20 minutes and there are many many moments like that keep
are many many moments like that keep
are many many moments like that keep going Boone have you have your children
going Boone have you have your children
going Boone have you have your children been with you on cougar captures they
been with you on cougar captures they
been with you on cougar captures they have um and that’s design is exciting to
have um and that’s design is exciting to
have um and that’s design is exciting to pass that on to the next generation from
pass that on to the next generation from
pass that on to the next generation from just the tracking to to being able to be
just the tracking to to being able to be
just the tracking to to being able to be out of seeing animals and gain an
out of seeing animals and gain an
out of seeing animals and gain an appreciation and understanding for what
appreciation and understanding for what
appreciation and understanding for what they’re doing and I think I love what
they’re doing and I think I love what
they’re doing and I think I love what Derek and barely talked about about the
Derek and barely talked about about the
Derek and barely talked about about the kids in the next generation I think that
kids in the next generation I think that
kids in the next generation I think that is so cute and so
is so cute and so
is so cute and so important that we need to you know we’re
important that we need to you know we’re
important that we need to you know we’re all going to play our game and it’s
all going to play our game and it’s
all going to play our game and it’s going to be done at some point if
going to be done at some point if
going to be done at some point if someone’s got a new place 1,500 one of
someone’s got a new place 1,500 one of
someone’s got a new place 1,500 one of us to carry the torching and to have
us to carry the torching and to have
us to carry the torching and to have young people go and be inspired I’ve
young people go and be inspired I’ve
young people go and be inspired I’ve been so fortunate to have the
been so fortunate to have the
been so fortunate to have the opportunity to be part of that national
opportunity to be part of that national
opportunity to be part of that national Geographics sister school program they
Geographics sister school program they
Geographics sister school program they we got a couple schools in this case the
we got a couple schools in this case the
we got a couple schools in this case the schools in Africa and I’m go to the
schools in Africa and I’m go to the
schools in Africa and I’m go to the stateside and meet these kids and see
stateside and meet these kids and see
stateside and meet these kids and see just the chaotic excitement of how
just the chaotic excitement of how
just the chaotic excitement of how contagious it is to get involved with
contagious it is to get involved with
contagious it is to get involved with big cats it causes the awareness and
big cats it causes the awareness and
big cats it causes the awareness and these kids go nuts for it and it it’s so
these kids go nuts for it and it it’s so
these kids go nuts for it and it it’s so cool to see because it’s when you see
cool to see because it’s when you see
cool to see because it’s when you see from first grade you know senior in high
from first grade you know senior in high
from first grade you know senior in high school and spired and wanting to make a
school and spired and wanting to make a
school and spired and wanting to make a difference that’s a pretty good thing
difference that’s a pretty good thing
difference that’s a pretty good thing and shivani we were we were speaking
and shivani we were we were speaking
and shivani we were we were speaking just before we went live would this hang
just before we went live would this hang
just before we went live would this hang out and you were telling us about what
out and you were telling us about what
out and you were telling us about what you were doing yesterday which was
you were doing yesterday which was
you were doing yesterday which was remarkably similar to the kinds of
remarkably similar to the kinds of
remarkably similar to the kinds of things that Derek and Beverly are doing
things that Derek and Beverly are doing
things that Derek and Beverly are doing several thousand kilometers to yourself
several thousand kilometers to yourself
several thousand kilometers to yourself so Shivani can you tell us what you were
so Shivani can you tell us what you were
so Shivani can you tell us what you were up to yesterday and how that helps keep
up to yesterday and how that helps keep
up to yesterday and how that helps keep you inspired Luke this week has been
you inspired Luke this week has been
you inspired Luke this week has been incredible we’ve held our lion kids camp
incredible we’ve held our lion kids camp
incredible we’ve held our lion kids camp and this is about inspiring children to
and this is about inspiring children to
and this is about inspiring children to become the next conservationists
become the next conservationists
become the next conservationists yesterday and today I got to show
yesterday and today I got to show
yesterday and today I got to show children their first-ever lion their
children their first-ever lion their
children their first-ever lion their smiles their faces the excitement that
smiles their faces the excitement that
smiles their faces the excitement that they had when they saw their first lion
they had when they saw their first lion
they had when they saw their first lion that’s what keeps me going that’s what
that’s what keeps me going that’s what
that’s what keeps me going that’s what inspires me because I know these
inspires me because I know these
inspires me because I know these children are the next conservationists
children are the next conservationists
children are the next conservationists there the next wardens tour guides and
there the next wardens tour guides and
there the next wardens tour guides and leaders in the in this area just seeing
leaders in the in this area just seeing
leaders in the in this area just seeing their faces really is what keeps me
their faces really is what keeps me
their faces really is what keeps me going and and secondly my team my
going and and secondly my team my
going and and secondly my team my incredible team in Samburu seeing how
incredible team in Samburu seeing how
incredible team in Samburu seeing how they risk their lives to save lines just
they risk their lives to save lines just
they risk their lives to save lines just seeing how they’ve grown in the last few
seeing how they’ve grown in the last few
seeing how they’ve grown in the last few years they’re absolutely amazing and
years they’re absolutely amazing and
years they’re absolutely amazing and every day they inspire me to keep going
every day they inspire me to keep going
every day they inspire me to keep going on so I’m very lucky to have a great
on so I’m very lucky to have a great
on so I’m very lucky to have a great team I’m so fortunate to be able to take
team I’m so fortunate to be able to take
team I’m so fortunate to be able to take out kids should show them their first
out kids should show them their first
out kids should show them their first ever lion that’s why I do what I do it’s
ever lion that’s why I do what I do it’s
ever lion that’s why I do what I do it’s because of who I’m with that’s fantastic
because of who I’m with that’s fantastic
because of who I’m with that’s fantastic Shivani thank you for spending time to
Shivani thank you for spending time to
Shivani thank you for spending time to join us from Kenya today kirthi thank
join us from Kenya today kirthi thank
join us from Kenya today kirthi thank you for spending time to join us
you for spending time to join us
you for spending time to join us India today Boone thank you for spending
India today Boone thank you for spending
India today Boone thank you for spending time to join us from Wyoming in the USA
time to join us from Wyoming in the USA
time to join us from Wyoming in the USA today Derick and Beverly as we bring
today Derick and Beverly as we bring
today Derick and Beverly as we bring this hangout to a close are there any
this hangout to a close are there any
this hangout to a close are there any final messages or parting thoughts that
final messages or parting thoughts that
final messages or parting thoughts that you would like everyone to take with
you would like everyone to take with
you would like everyone to take with them as we as we finish up big cats week
them as we as we finish up big cats week
them as we as we finish up big cats week later this weekend hmm well you know
later this weekend hmm well you know
later this weekend hmm well you know look you were saying earlier go on what
look you were saying earlier go on what
look you were saying earlier go on what keeps us in bed and I have to say that
keeps us in bed and I have to say that
keeps us in bed and I have to say that the people on this call keep us inspired
the people on this call keep us inspired
the people on this call keep us inspired as well so it’s really you know just so
as well so it’s really you know just so
as well so it’s really you know just so fantastic that that everybody takes the
fantastic that that everybody takes the
fantastic that that everybody takes the time to do these calls and get involved
time to do these calls and get involved
time to do these calls and get involved in the big cats initiative and weakest
in the big cats initiative and weakest
in the big cats initiative and weakest is one of those moments in the year
is one of those moments in the year
is one of those moments in the year where you can put everything together
where you can put everything together
where you can put everything together and create some sort of event around
and create some sort of event around
and create some sort of event around McKesson and have people start the
McKesson and have people start the
McKesson and have people start the conversation again basically what we do
conversation again basically what we do
conversation again basically what we do is we create films let’s start
is we create films let’s start
is we create films let’s start conversations and we hope that people
conversations and we hope that people
conversations and we hope that people pick up that conversation once the film
pick up that conversation once the film
pick up that conversation once the film is finished so we’re very encouraged and
is finished so we’re very encouraged and
is finished so we’re very encouraged and of course want to thank everybody for
of course want to thank everybody for
of course want to thank everybody for supporting the big cats initiative
supporting the big cats initiative
supporting the big cats initiative clearly something that that’s very close
clearly something that that’s very close
clearly something that that’s very close to our hearts and and knowing that some
to our hearts and and knowing that some
to our hearts and and knowing that some everybody is going to be watching game
everybody is going to be watching game
everybody is going to be watching game of lions we’ve really just had a very
of lions we’ve really just had a very
of lions we’ve really just had a very emotional scene unfold in front of us a
emotional scene unfold in front of us a
emotional scene unfold in front of us a couple of weeks ago and it’s it really
couple of weeks ago and it’s it really
couple of weeks ago and it’s it really it depicts what lines have to go through
it depicts what lines have to go through
it depicts what lines have to go through out in the world we you know we think
out in the world we you know we think
out in the world we you know we think that it’s all easy easy for that and it
that it’s all easy easy for that and it
that it’s all easy easy for that and it truly am but it took us 30 hours to film
truly am but it took us 30 hours to film
truly am but it took us 30 hours to film the scene and at the end I had tears
the scene and at the end I had tears
the scene and at the end I had tears rolling down my cheeks but at least this
rolling down my cheeks but at least this
rolling down my cheeks but at least this time it was tears of joy well when I saw
time it was tears of joy well when I saw
time it was tears of joy well when I saw it when I mentioned just a second ago
it when I mentioned just a second ago
it when I mentioned just a second ago that we were going to talk about final
that we were going to talk about final
that we were going to talk about final thoughts we were absolutely buried with
thoughts we were absolutely buried with
thoughts we were absolutely buried with questions on social media that all came
questions on social media that all came
questions on social media that all came in almost at the same time and
in almost at the same time and
in almost at the same time and and so one of the questions that came in
and so one of the questions that came in
and so one of the questions that came in however came from someone on this
however came from someone on this
however came from someone on this hangout one of the the folks that’s with
hangout one of the the folks that’s with
hangout one of the the folks that’s with us Boone actually asked Shivani Boone
us Boone actually asked Shivani Boone
us Boone actually asked Shivani Boone wants to know can he come to your camp
please come and visit us you will love
please come and visit us you will love it the Warriors will love having you it
it the Warriors will love having you it
it the Warriors will love having you it will be an amazing experience so please
will be an amazing experience so please
will be an amazing experience so please welcome anytime where is incredible
welcome anytime where is incredible
welcome anytime where is incredible Kenya’s incredible I encourage all of
Kenya’s incredible I encourage all of
Kenya’s incredible I encourage all of you to come and see us and see what
you to come and see us and see what
you to come and see us and see what we’re doing that’s great um many of the
we’re doing that’s great um many of the
we’re doing that’s great um many of the questions that just came in are from
questions that just came in are from
questions that just came in are from people asking about what they can do to
people asking about what they can do to
people asking about what they can do to get involved but also i’m curious to
get involved but also i’m curious to
get involved but also i’m curious to know if you guys have any additional
know if you guys have any additional
know if you guys have any additional questions for each other so let’s let’s
questions for each other so let’s let’s
questions for each other so let’s let’s let’s go through the line up really
let’s go through the line up really
let’s go through the line up really quickly about what you think people can
quickly about what you think people can
quickly about what you think people can do to get involved and if you have any
do to get involved and if you have any
do to get involved and if you have any questions for one another then um I know
questions for one another then um I know
questions for one another then um I know I first of all I just want to say I
I first of all I just want to say I
I first of all I just want to say I think this is such a great thing to be
think this is such a great thing to be
think this is such a great thing to be able to participate this with everybody
able to participate this with everybody
able to participate this with everybody because everyone does such unique and
because everyone does such unique and
because everyone does such unique and amazing things um you know everyone’s
amazing things um you know everyone’s
amazing things um you know everyone’s kind of involved in it in a different
kind of involved in it in a different
kind of involved in it in a different arena to support good cats in there
arena to support good cats in there
arena to support good cats in there cause um so maybe I’ll just throw it out
cause um so maybe I’ll just throw it out
cause um so maybe I’ll just throw it out is that a generic question to everybody
is that a generic question to everybody
is that a generic question to everybody because everyone kind of note what’s
because everyone kind of note what’s
because everyone kind of note what’s going on in their old home arena there
going on in their old home arena there
going on in their old home arena there what’s next what is the next thing that
what’s next what is the next thing that
what’s next what is the next thing that has to happen in your in each individual
has to happen in your in each individual
has to happen in your in each individual area where you’re working to be able for
area where you’re working to be able for
area where you’re working to be able for big cast to take that next step and make
big cast to take that next step and make
big cast to take that next step and make a move in the positive direction Chrissy
a move in the positive direction Chrissy
a move in the positive direction Chrissy what would you say is next for you um I
what would you say is next for you um I
what would you say is next for you um I think we need to come up with
think we need to come up with
think we need to come up with conservation solutions that work and I
conservation solutions that work and I
conservation solutions that work and I see technology playing a big part in
see technology playing a big part in
see technology playing a big part in that like Shivani we’re field testing of
that like Shivani we’re field testing of
that like Shivani we’re field testing of Amalur people can call and call into an
Amalur people can call and call into an
Amalur people can call and call into an 800 number four villages in India
800 number four villages in India
800 number four villages in India reporting conflict and then we have
reporting conflict and then we have
reporting conflict and then we have field teams going to help people file
field teams going to help people file
field teams going to help people file for compensation and although it’s in
for compensation and although it’s in
for compensation and although it’s in very very early stages we’re getting
very very early stages we’re getting
very very early stages we’re getting overwhelming responses from villagers
overwhelming responses from villagers
overwhelming responses from villagers who don’t have electricity we don’t have
who don’t have electricity we don’t have
who don’t have electricity we don’t have schools who don’t have health
schools who don’t have health
schools who don’t have health okay but they have a cell phone and they
okay but they have a cell phone and they
okay but they have a cell phone and they can call in and tell us what happened
can call in and tell us what happened
can call in and tell us what happened and I do I think you know sir not urban
and I do I think you know sir not urban
and I do I think you know sir not urban Indians take pictures of tigers and get
Indians take pictures of tigers and get
Indians take pictures of tigers and get on social media and say save tigers but
on social media and say save tigers but
on social media and say save tigers but really the people we need to be working
really the people we need to be working
really the people we need to be working with are the people living next to
with are the people living next to
with are the people living next to tigers and leopards and lions and I
tigers and leopards and lions and I
tigers and leopards and lions and I think the solutions have to focus on on
think the solutions have to focus on on
think the solutions have to focus on on people living with these big cats
Shivani what are your thoughts um
Shivani what are your thoughts um absolutely as crazy says that you know
absolutely as crazy says that you know
absolutely as crazy says that you know the future for wildlife is in the hands
the future for wildlife is in the hands
the future for wildlife is in the hands of the local people who live with them
of the local people who live with them
of the local people who live with them we’ve worked out methods and ways of how
we’ve worked out methods and ways of how
we’ve worked out methods and ways of how people and lions can coexist in in a
people and lions can coexist in in a
people and lions can coexist in in a small part of some guru and now for us
small part of some guru and now for us
small part of some guru and now for us what’s really important is to take it to
what’s really important is to take it to
what’s really important is to take it to new areas in northern Kenya work with
new areas in northern Kenya work with
new areas in northern Kenya work with the people where Lions are being killed
the people where Lions are being killed
the people where Lions are being killed and really just you know use what what’s
and really just you know use what what’s
and really just you know use what what’s worked in our area expanded to new areas
worked in our area expanded to new areas
worked in our area expanded to new areas and encourage people to live with lions
and encourage people to live with lions
and encourage people to live with lions we know it’s worked our population is
we know it’s worked our population is
we know it’s worked our population is stable now people have accepted the
stable now people have accepted the
stable now people have accepted the presence of lions it’s up to us to take
presence of lions it’s up to us to take
presence of lions it’s up to us to take that to areas where it’s more difficult
that to areas where it’s more difficult
that to areas where it’s more difficult and people have not accepted lions so
and people have not accepted lions so
and people have not accepted lions so that’s the next step for us is engage
that’s the next step for us is engage
that’s the next step for us is engage more warriors and conservation engage
more warriors and conservation engage
more warriors and conservation engage the cemburu community work with more
the cemburu community work with more
the cemburu community work with more children work with women we started
children work with women we started
children work with women we started working with women this year and if is
working with women this year and if is
working with women this year and if is absolutely incredible so for us it’s
absolutely incredible so for us it’s
absolutely incredible so for us it’s it’s really important to continue doing
it’s really important to continue doing
it’s really important to continue doing that and that’ll that’ll be the next
that and that’ll that’ll be the next
that and that’ll that’ll be the next steps for us Derek and Beverly what is
steps for us Derek and Beverly what is
steps for us Derek and Beverly what is the big cat got that what is the big
the big cat got that what is the big
the big cat got that what is the big cats initiative going to look like
cats initiative going to look like
cats initiative going to look like moving forward
well you know I think Luke I think that
well you know I think Luke I think that the the two big problems with big cats
the the two big problems with big cats
the the two big problems with big cats and and their future heir so we have to
and and their future heir so we have to
and and their future heir so we have to fight both of the at-bats and so I think
fight both of the at-bats and so I think
fight both of the at-bats and so I think the big cats initiative is going to be
the big cats initiative is going to be
the big cats initiative is going to be tackling both of these in the future
tackling both of these in the future
tackling both of these in the future certainly I would like people we in
certainly I would like people we in
certainly I would like people we in reply to what people can do obviously we
reply to what people can do obviously we
reply to what people can do obviously we need the funding but I think people have
need the funding but I think people have
need the funding but I think people have to ally in forward hats and big care
to ally in forward hats and big care
to ally in forward hats and big care that would certainly if we help fight
that would certainly if we help fight
that would certainly if we help fight the ignorance that floating around us
the ignorance that floating around us
the ignorance that floating around us all the time obviously dig our heels in
all the time obviously dig our heels in
all the time obviously dig our heels in when it comes to greed I don’t think
when it comes to greed I don’t think
when it comes to greed I don’t think that there should be a place for trophy
that there should be a place for trophy
that there should be a place for trophy hunting of big cats today in Africa and
hunting of big cats today in Africa and
hunting of big cats today in Africa and everybody’s got a voice and everybody
everybody’s got a voice and everybody
everybody’s got a voice and everybody should should speak out about that but
should should speak out about that but
should should speak out about that but the other thing is that I think pull
the other thing is that I think pull
the other thing is that I think pull around the world should reach out to
around the world should reach out to
around the world should reach out to people inside of Africa and just share
people inside of Africa and just share
people inside of Africa and just share the appreciation for big cats very often
the appreciation for big cats very often
the appreciation for big cats very often people in Africa who lives with lions on
people in Africa who lives with lions on
people in Africa who lives with lions on their doorstep don’t appreciate them and
their doorstep don’t appreciate them and
their doorstep don’t appreciate them and can be held up to appreciate them more
can be held up to appreciate them more
can be held up to appreciate them more if people around the world children
if people around the world children
if people around the world children around the world reached chart and just
around the world reached chart and just
around the world reached chart and just let people in Africa and then I believe
let people in Africa and then I believe
let people in Africa and then I believe we really do have to lobby harder you
we really do have to lobby harder you
we really do have to lobby harder you know we’ve all been trying to get lines
know we’ve all been trying to get lines
know we’ve all been trying to get lines on site ease to appendix 1 and of course
on site ease to appendix 1 and of course
on site ease to appendix 1 and of course it’s all hasn’t happened and I did and
it’s all hasn’t happened and I did and
it’s all hasn’t happened and I did and that is you know one thing we have to do
that is you know one thing we have to do
that is you know one thing we have to do we’ve just got to keep the lobbying
we’ve just got to keep the lobbying
we’ve just got to keep the lobbying going but we also have to be to try and
going but we also have to be to try and
going but we also have to be to try and stop any animal product going into any
stop any animal product going into any
stop any animal product going into any country so I mean you can still take you
country so I mean you can still take you
country so I mean you can still take you know safari trophies should be stopped
know safari trophies should be stopped
know safari trophies should be stopped as well as many of the European
as well as many of the European
as well as many of the European countries and you know if we could do
countries and you know if we could do
countries and you know if we could do that loving I believe we’d be able to
that loving I believe we’d be able to
that loving I believe we’d be able to stop a huge amount of the killing that
stop a huge amount of the killing that
stop a huge amount of the killing that is happening in Africa and then of
is happening in Africa and then of
is happening in Africa and then of course we’ve got a look at some Asia
course we’ve got a look at some Asia
course we’ve got a look at some Asia again Derek and I are we will be working
again Derek and I are we will be working
again Derek and I are we will be working very hard in
very hard in
very hard in in trying to get some foot in the door
in trying to get some foot in the door
in trying to get some foot in the door to be able to speak about these problems
to be able to speak about these problems
to be able to speak about these problems and we believe that we have just to
and we believe that we have just to
and we believe that we have just to Beijing in a pro to be able to start the
Beijing in a pro to be able to start the
Beijing in a pro to be able to start the discussion so and I think that’s what it
discussion so and I think that’s what it
discussion so and I think that’s what it is Lucas and I think the big cats
is Lucas and I think the big cats
is Lucas and I think the big cats initiative for us is going to change
initiative for us is going to change
initiative for us is going to change gears and move to a level where we take
gears and move to a level where we take
gears and move to a level where we take on real issues bigger issues and and get
on real issues bigger issues and and get
on real issues bigger issues and and get more involved in advocacy and
more involved in advocacy and
more involved in advocacy and conservation real odd conservation Derek
conservation real odd conservation Derek
conservation real odd conservation Derek and Beverly thank you for that boom
and Beverly thank you for that boom
and Beverly thank you for that boom Shivani Chrissy Derek and Beverly again
Shivani Chrissy Derek and Beverly again
Shivani Chrissy Derek and Beverly again it’s an honor to share time and hear
it’s an honor to share time and hear
it’s an honor to share time and hear from all of you we’re about out of time
from all of you we’re about out of time
from all of you we’re about out of time everyone at home I’d like to thank you
everyone at home I’d like to thank you
everyone at home I’d like to thank you for joining us and don’t forget you can
for joining us and don’t forget you can
for joining us and don’t forget you can continue the conversation with hashtag
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Luke dollar thank you very much everyone
Luke dollar thank you very much everyone for joining us and good bye
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