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we’re on Mars so I’m going to go way

we’re on Mars so I’m going to go way back and to facilitate that I’ve

back and to facilitate that I’ve

back and to facilitate that I’ve provided you with my Wayback Machine

provided you with my Wayback Machine

provided you with my Wayback Machine blank slate because I want to take you

blank slate because I want to take you

blank slate because I want to take you so far back we don’t have a picture of

so far back we don’t have a picture of

so far back we don’t have a picture of that about 4.6 billion years ago when

that about 4.6 billion years ago when

that about 4.6 billion years ago when the universe was just a little more than

the universe was just a little more than

the universe was just a little more than half as old as it is now the solar

half as old as it is now the solar

half as old as it is now the solar system formed and it was a supreme act

system formed and it was a supreme act

system formed and it was a supreme act of violence the Sun was in the center

of violence the Sun was in the center

of violence the Sun was in the center big hunks of rock were made from little

big hunks of rock were made from little

big hunks of rock were made from little hunks of rock which were made from

hunks of rock which were made from

hunks of rock which were made from little tiny grains how everything came

little tiny grains how everything came

little tiny grains how everything came together was a function of the chemistry

together was a function of the chemistry

together was a function of the chemistry of the materials and the chemistry of

of the materials and the chemistry of

of the materials and the chemistry of the materials changed as a function of

the materials changed as a function of

the materials changed as a function of the relationships between all these

the relationships between all these

the relationships between all these little bits of stuff when the bits of

little bits of stuff when the bits of

little bits of stuff when the bits of stuff became bigger bits of stuff and we

stuff became bigger bits of stuff and we

stuff became bigger bits of stuff and we had big rocks and then the big rocks

had big rocks and then the big rocks

had big rocks and then the big rocks became really big rocks and they glommed

became really big rocks and they glommed

became really big rocks and they glommed into each other we started getting these

into each other we started getting these

into each other we started getting these proto planets and these big hunks of

proto planets and these big hunks of

proto planets and these big hunks of rock that we call planetesimals

rock that we call planetesimals

rock that we call planetesimals generated so much heat and pressure by

generated so much heat and pressure by

generated so much heat and pressure by the time you got sufficient mass that

the time you got sufficient mass that

the time you got sufficient mass that you got a lot of melting and

you got a lot of melting and

you got a lot of melting and recrystallization and before you knew it

recrystallization and before you knew it

recrystallization and before you knew it well not before you knew it it did take

well not before you knew it it did take

well not before you knew it it did take till 4.6 billion years ago we got

till 4.6 billion years ago we got

till 4.6 billion years ago we got something that was an amalgamated planet

something that was an amalgamated planet

something that was an amalgamated planet and that’s the infancy of the earth

and that’s the infancy of the earth

and that’s the infancy of the earth that’s the infancy of all the planets

that’s the infancy of all the planets

that’s the infancy of all the planets and depending upon where they sit with

and depending upon where they sit with

and depending upon where they sit with respect to their central star and where

respect to their central star and where

respect to their central star and where they sit with respect to each other

they sit with respect to each other

they sit with respect to each other they’re all a little bit different our

they’re all a little bit different our

they’re all a little bit different our closest neighbor is Mars so the reason

closest neighbor is Mars so the reason

closest neighbor is Mars so the reason we go to Mars is because we want to

we go to Mars is because we want to

we go to Mars is because we want to understand ourselves well what can we

understand ourselves well what can we

understand ourselves well what can we learn about ourselves on Mars that we

learn about ourselves on Mars that we

learn about ourselves on Mars that we can’t learn here during that 4.6 billion

can’t learn here during that 4.6 billion

can’t learn here during that 4.6 billion years of violence sometime

years of violence sometime

years of violence sometime we came to a period of enough quiescence

we came to a period of enough quiescence

we came to a period of enough quiescence so that we could begin to cool on the

so that we could begin to cool on the

so that we could begin to cool on the surface and as the planet began to

surface and as the planet began to

surface and as the planet began to off-gas it’s hot interior a little bit

off-gas it’s hot interior a little bit

off-gas it’s hot interior a little bit and create water and create atmosphere

and create water and create atmosphere

and create water and create atmosphere we began to mature as a planet somewhere

we began to mature as a planet somewhere

we began to mature as a planet somewhere between that 4.6 billion years and the

between that 4.6 billion years and the

between that 4.6 billion years and the 3.8 billion years to which we can go

3.8 billion years to which we can go

3.8 billion years to which we can go back we got life but we don’t know

back we got life but we don’t know

back we got life but we don’t know exactly when and we don’t know exactly

exactly when and we don’t know exactly

exactly when and we don’t know exactly how our planet is such a benefit to us

how our planet is such a benefit to us

how our planet is such a benefit to us in that its surface keeps reshaping

in that its surface keeps reshaping

in that its surface keeps reshaping itself the skin basically dives

itself the skin basically dives

itself the skin basically dives underneath itself and that’s good

underneath itself and that’s good

underneath itself and that’s good because that’s how we recycle our

because that’s how we recycle our

because that’s how we recycle our materials but it’s also bad because the

materials but it’s also bad because the

materials but it’s also bad because the evidence of our deep past gone Mars on

evidence of our deep past gone Mars on

evidence of our deep past gone Mars on the other hand hasn’t got all that

the other hand hasn’t got all that

the other hand hasn’t got all that activity on the surface around four

activity on the surface around four

activity on the surface around four billion years ago 4.1 to 3.9 it was a

billion years ago 4.1 to 3.9 it was a

billion years ago 4.1 to 3.9 it was a really bad day and I use the term

really bad day and I use the term

really bad day and I use the term loosely in our solar system another

loosely in our solar system another

loosely in our solar system another bunch of rogue planetesimals came

bunch of rogue planetesimals came

bunch of rogue planetesimals came crashing through the inner solar system

crashing through the inner solar system

crashing through the inner solar system slamming into the planets and you see

slamming into the planets and you see

slamming into the planets and you see the evidence today by all the craters on

the evidence today by all the craters on

the evidence today by all the craters on the moon on Mars and Mercury we can’t

the moon on Mars and Mercury we can’t

the moon on Mars and Mercury we can’t quite see through the atmosphere on

quite see through the atmosphere on

quite see through the atmosphere on Venus very well and we’ve got that pesky

Venus very well and we’ve got that pesky

Venus very well and we’ve got that pesky ocean covering on the earth so a lot of

ocean covering on the earth so a lot of

ocean covering on the earth so a lot of the evidence on Earth is is very cryptic

the evidence on Earth is is very cryptic

the evidence on Earth is is very cryptic but somehow during that time we

but somehow during that time we

but somehow during that time we recovered and we got this robust

recovered and we got this robust

recovered and we got this robust biosphere obviously we’re all here

biosphere obviously we’re all here

biosphere obviously we’re all here tonight reading the National Geographic

tonight reading the National Geographic

tonight reading the National Geographic right but not so on Mars Mars looks very

right but not so on Mars Mars looks very

right but not so on Mars Mars looks very different than Earth looks right now but

different than Earth looks right now but

different than Earth looks right now but in that window of time between 4.6

in that window of time between 4.6

in that window of time between 4.6 billion years and that team of bandit

billion years and that team of bandit

billion years and that team of bandit asteroids that came through it was a

asteroids that came through it was a

asteroids that came through it was a four hundred million year window if life

four hundred million year window if life

four hundred million year window if life formed here then could it have formed on

formed here then could it have formed on

formed here then could it have formed on Mars and if it did form on Mars

Mars and if it did form on Mars

Mars and if it did form on Mars where’d he go Mars we know had water on

where’d he go Mars we know had water on

where’d he go Mars we know had water on it the evidence is ample not just water

it the evidence is ample not just water

it the evidence is ample not just water flowing and shaping and weathering the

flowing and shaping and weathering the

flowing and shaping and weathering the surface of Mars but water standing in a

surface of Mars but water standing in a

surface of Mars but water standing in a still pool the evidence of which we

still pool the evidence of which we

still pool the evidence of which we found at Yellowknife Bay

found at Yellowknife Bay

found at Yellowknife Bay the chemistry of which was benign enough

the chemistry of which was benign enough

the chemistry of which was benign enough that it could have been habitable for

that it could have been habitable for

that it could have been habitable for life from a chemical point of view but

life from a chemical point of view but

life from a chemical point of view but somewhere between this and this

somewhere between this and this

somewhere between this and this conditions changed so the question is

conditions changed so the question is

conditions changed so the question is when did they change and what happened

when did they change and what happened

when did they change and what happened so we are standing here at this image at

so we are standing here at this image at

so we are standing here at this image at Yellowknife Bay it looks a lot like a

Yellowknife Bay it looks a lot like a

Yellowknife Bay it looks a lot like a dried lake bed and we came to the

dried lake bed and we came to the

dried lake bed and we came to the conclusion that that’s the best model

conclusion that that’s the best model

conclusion that that’s the best model for what that environment was like so

for what that environment was like so

for what that environment was like so now I’m going to ask you a question

now I’m going to ask you a question

now I’m going to ask you a question we’ve got the minerals we’ve got the

we’ve got the minerals we’ve got the

we’ve got the minerals we’ve got the water we did some chemical analyses and

water we did some chemical analyses and

water we did some chemical analyses and we determined we have the canonical six

we determined we have the canonical six

we determined we have the canonical six elements that we deemed to be requisite

elements that we deemed to be requisite

elements that we deemed to be requisite for life on Earth but what else what are

for life on Earth but what else what are

for life on Earth but what else what are we not seeing that tells us that an

we not seeing that tells us that an

we not seeing that tells us that an environment could be habitable or not

environment could be habitable or not

environment could be habitable or not it’s like when you go to buy a house

it’s like when you go to buy a house

it’s like when you go to buy a house what is that owner covering up that you

what is that owner covering up that you

what is that owner covering up that you don’t discover until you’ve signed for

don’t discover until you’ve signed for

don’t discover until you’ve signed for the mortgage but one clue is the

the mortgage but one clue is the

the mortgage but one clue is the atmosphere we’re trying to figure out

atmosphere we’re trying to figure out

atmosphere we’re trying to figure out when the atmosphere got so thin I told

when the atmosphere got so thin I told

when the atmosphere got so thin I told you about the rogue asteroids coming

you about the rogue asteroids coming

you about the rogue asteroids coming through unfortunately during the time of

through unfortunately during the time of

through unfortunately during the time of attack Mars lost its geo dynamo that is

attack Mars lost its geo dynamo that is

attack Mars lost its geo dynamo that is the convection of metallic stuff and the

the convection of metallic stuff and the

the convection of metallic stuff and the interior of the planet that generates a

interior of the planet that generates a

interior of the planet that generates a magnetic field like our own protective

magnetic field like our own protective

magnetic field like our own protective magnetic field which is really key for

magnetic field which is really key for

magnetic field which is really key for protecting an atmosphere and preventing

protecting an atmosphere and preventing

protecting an atmosphere and preventing it from being ionized away by the

it from being ionized away by the

it from being ionized away by the galactic cosmic rays and the solar

galactic cosmic rays and the solar

galactic cosmic rays and the solar energetic particles all of which can do

energetic particles all of which can do

energetic particles all of which can do your atmosphere dirt too you’re left

your atmosphere dirt too you’re left

your atmosphere dirt too you’re left with this thin little scum of air which

with this thin little scum of air which

with this thin little scum of air which is what Mars presently has so I ask you

is what Mars presently has so I ask you

is what Mars presently has so I ask you to think about this the chemistry was

to think about this the chemistry was

to think about this the chemistry was right

right

right the minerals were right was the

the minerals were right was the

the minerals were right was the atmosphere right we don’t know so that

atmosphere right we don’t know so that

atmosphere right we don’t know so that tells us two things

tells us two things

tells us two things you got to have all the right stuff

you got to have all the right stuff

you got to have all the right stuff together in the right place but you also

together in the right place but you also

together in the right place but you also have to have everything together at the

have to have everything together at the

have to have everything together at the right time so the evolution of the

right time so the evolution of the

right time so the evolution of the environment not just in space but in

environment not just in space but in

environment not just in space but in time is key to determining whether or

time is key to determining whether or

time is key to determining whether or not it’s a habitable one and so

not it’s a habitable one and so

not it’s a habitable one and so curiosity came to Gale Crater to look at

curiosity came to Gale Crater to look at

curiosity came to Gale Crater to look at a bunch of history hoping that one of

a bunch of history hoping that one of

a bunch of history hoping that one of those layers of rock might be the Dead

those layers of rock might be the Dead

those layers of rock might be the Dead Sea scroll equivalent on Mars that would

Sea scroll equivalent on Mars that would

Sea scroll equivalent on Mars that would tell us the secrets of the evolution of

tell us the secrets of the evolution of

tell us the secrets of the evolution of the Martian surface allow us to get a

the Martian surface allow us to get a

the Martian surface allow us to get a little glimpse into that window of

little glimpse into that window of

little glimpse into that window of history that might tell us Mars had or

history that might tell us Mars had or

history that might tell us Mars had or had not evolved life at least we can

had not evolved life at least we can

had not evolved life at least we can evaluate Mars from the perspective of

evaluate Mars from the perspective of

evaluate Mars from the perspective of the most tolerant and cosmopolitan life

the most tolerant and cosmopolitan life

the most tolerant and cosmopolitan life on Earth that would be the prokaryotic

on Earth that would be the prokaryotic

on Earth that would be the prokaryotic microbes and so we measured these rocks

microbes and so we measured these rocks

microbes and so we measured these rocks at Gale Crater in Yellowknife Bay and we

at Gale Crater in Yellowknife Bay and we

at Gale Crater in Yellowknife Bay and we determined that the past environment was

determined that the past environment was

determined that the past environment was probably hospitable for that type of

probably hospitable for that type of

probably hospitable for that type of Earth life check then we took a step

Earth life check then we took a step

Earth life check then we took a step further and we dated that rock now the

further and we dated that rock now the

further and we dated that rock now the problem is the error bars on an age date

problem is the error bars on an age date

problem is the error bars on an age date are huge so we don’t really know with

are huge so we don’t really know with

are huge so we don’t really know with precision the age but we do know when

precision the age but we do know when

precision the age but we do know when the rock was exposed and we are now

the rock was exposed and we are now

the rock was exposed and we are now proceeding to do likewise on other rocks

proceeding to do likewise on other rocks

proceeding to do likewise on other rocks on Mars so stay tuned for more of that

on Mars so stay tuned for more of that

on Mars so stay tuned for more of that but the point is you’ve got to know what

but the point is you’ve got to know what

but the point is you’ve got to know what you’ve got where you’ve got it and if

you’ve got where you’ve got it and if

you’ve got where you’ve got it and if it’s all together at the same time in

it’s all together at the same time in

it’s all together at the same time in order to make a judgement like is the

order to make a judgement like is the

order to make a judgement like is the environment habitable we can’t do this

environment habitable we can’t do this

environment habitable we can’t do this alone

alone

alone it takes the missions that came before

it takes the missions that came before

it takes the missions that came before us the Viking the Pathfinder Spirit and

us the Viking the Pathfinder Spirit and

us the Viking the Pathfinder Spirit and Opportunity and the orbital assets that

Opportunity and the orbital assets that

Opportunity and the orbital assets that are presently there to pick out the good

are presently there to pick out the good

are presently there to pick out the good spot and to guide us as we can pick up

spot and to guide us as we can pick up

spot and to guide us as we can pick up and go Viking was an amazing mission but

and go Viking was an amazing mission but

and go Viking was an amazing mission but it couldn’t get up and move to where the

it couldn’t get up and move to where the

it couldn’t get up and move to where the action is we could and that’s why we

action is we could and that’s why we

action is we could and that’s why we decided instead of going to mount Shaw

decided instead of going to mount Shaw

decided instead of going to mount Shaw first were all that history reading

first were all that history reading

first were all that history reading awaits and we’ll get there we decided we

awaits and we’ll get there we decided we

awaits and we’ll get there we decided we needed to take a look first at promising

needed to take a look first at promising

needed to take a look first at promising Rock even in the myths of the lore of

Rock even in the myths of the lore of

Rock even in the myths of the lore of the history awaiting us on Mount sharp

the history awaiting us on Mount sharp

the history awaiting us on Mount sharp and so we decided instead of going to

and so we decided instead of going to

and so we decided instead of going to Mount sharp to the left that we would go

Mount sharp to the left that we would go

Mount sharp to the left that we would go to the right and check out these

to the right and check out these

to the right and check out these interesting rocks these features these

interesting rocks these features these

interesting rocks these features these sedimentary structures that pretended a

sedimentary structures that pretended a

sedimentary structures that pretended a ripe sweet spot in history when we might

ripe sweet spot in history when we might

ripe sweet spot in history when we might have had a habitable environment and so

have had a habitable environment and so

have had a habitable environment and so we went to Yellowknife Bay and I’m not

we went to Yellowknife Bay and I’m not

we went to Yellowknife Bay and I’m not going to describe the features of the

going to describe the features of the

going to describe the features of the three different rock types but let me

three different rock types but let me

three different rock types but let me point out that that’s key you’re not

point out that that’s key you’re not

point out that that’s key you’re not just looking at one event in time you’re

just looking at one event in time you’re

just looking at one event in time you’re looking at a change in time we’re going

looking at a change in time we’re going

looking at a change in time we’re going across the horizon over the edge of the

across the horizon over the edge of the

across the horizon over the edge of the world and looking at three different

world and looking at three different

world and looking at three different eras when we drilled the hole there we

eras when we drilled the hole there we

eras when we drilled the hole there we showed that it was important to have a

showed that it was important to have a

showed that it was important to have a human make a decision not to just

human make a decision not to just

human make a decision not to just blindly make a plan and go there because

blindly make a plan and go there because

blindly make a plan and go there because of the sake of the plan but to respond

of the sake of the plan but to respond

of the sake of the plan but to respond to the science in real time go to where

to the science in real time go to where

to the science in real time go to where the action is go to where the science

the action is go to where the science

the action is go to where the science story is so we’re not at the dock

story is so we’re not at the dock

story is so we’re not at the dock waiting for our ship to come in when it

waiting for our ship to come in when it

waiting for our ship to come in when it flies into national airport so we

flies into national airport so we

flies into national airport so we continue to explore I love this selfie

continue to explore I love this selfie

continue to explore I love this selfie because I can’t tell you how amazing it

because I can’t tell you how amazing it

because I can’t tell you how amazing it is to get up every day log on to the

is to get up every day log on to the

is to get up every day log on to the latest from Mars occasionally catch a

latest from Mars occasionally catch a

latest from Mars occasionally catch a glimpse of our own selves and see stuff

glimpse of our own selves and see stuff

glimpse of our own selves and see stuff that I touched and made and it’s on Mars

so stay with us there’s more to go we’ve

so stay with us there’s more to go we’ve finished our prime mission we’ve been

finished our prime mission we’ve been

finished our prime mission we’ve been there for two years it’s a very exciting

there for two years it’s a very exciting

there for two years it’s a very exciting time and there are more exciting times

time and there are more exciting times

time and there are more exciting times ahead

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