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The Breakdown of Women in STEM | Jess Ellis | TEDxCSM


so I’d like to tell you a story today

so I’d like to tell you a story today during my second year in college I took

during my second year in college I took

during my second year in college I took a spring break trip to a beautiful

a spring break trip to a beautiful

a spring break trip to a beautiful country where I was recommended against

country where I was recommended against

country where I was recommended against drinking the water and this was my first

drinking the water and this was my first

drinking the water and this was my first international travel without adult

international travel without adult

international travel without adult supervision and so I really wanted to

supervision and so I really wanted to

supervision and so I really wanted to embrace the identity of world traveler

embrace the identity of world traveler

embrace the identity of world traveler and I didn’t want to be that pretentious

and I didn’t want to be that pretentious

and I didn’t want to be that pretentious American who used bottled water to brush

American who used bottled water to brush

American who used bottled water to brush my teeth so I drink the water inevitably

my teeth so I drink the water inevitably

my teeth so I drink the water inevitably it became pretty ill and I went to my

it became pretty ill and I went to my

it became pretty ill and I went to my university health center and I told them

university health center and I told them

university health center and I told them I had just been in this beautiful

I had just been in this beautiful

I had just been in this beautiful country I drank the water now I’m sick

country I drank the water now I’m sick

country I drank the water now I’m sick and they said well what’s most likely

and they said well what’s most likely

and they said well what’s most likely happening is you have a stomach flu you

happening is you have a stomach flu you

happening is you have a stomach flu you have a bug just go on a liquid diet

have a bug just go on a liquid diet

have a bug just go on a liquid diet you’ll be fine and I said no no you

you’ll be fine and I said no no you

you’ll be fine and I said no no you don’t understand I was just in this

don’t understand I was just in this

don’t understand I was just in this country I drink the water I’m feeling

country I drink the water I’m feeling

country I drink the water I’m feeling really ill they said no going to liquid

really ill they said no going to liquid

really ill they said no going to liquid diet

diet

diet so I did and after losing about 15

so I did and after losing about 15

so I did and after losing about 15 pounds I realized that that chicken soup

pounds I realized that that chicken soup

pounds I realized that that chicken soup wasn’t really soothing my stomach or my

wasn’t really soothing my stomach or my

wasn’t really soothing my stomach or my soul and so I went back to that health

soul and so I went back to that health

soul and so I went back to that health center and I asked them to do some more

center and I asked them to do some more

center and I asked them to do some more tests and I’ll not share the details of

tests and I’ll not share the details of

tests and I’ll not share the details of those tests with you right now but once

those tests with you right now but once

those tests with you right now but once I did those tests they gave me the

I did those tests they gave me the

I did those tests they gave me the diagnosis that I knew was there although

diagnosis that I knew was there although

diagnosis that I knew was there although I didn’t know the word for it at the

I didn’t know the word for it at the

I didn’t know the word for it at the time when I heard that word what it did

time when I heard that word what it did

time when I heard that word what it did for me was gave me a confirmation that

for me was gave me a confirmation that

for me was gave me a confirmation that what I was feeling that wasn’t addressed

what I was feeling that wasn’t addressed

what I was feeling that wasn’t addressed with the word stomach flu or stomach bug

with the word stomach flu or stomach bug

with the word stomach flu or stomach bug something else was there so that word

something else was there so that word

something else was there so that word was Giardia I won’t go into details of

was Giardia I won’t go into details of

was Giardia I won’t go into details of what that is um but with that word it

what that is um but with that word it

what that is um but with that word it let me feel like there was a word for

let me feel like there was a word for

let me feel like there was a word for this there was a diagnosis and I could

this there was a diagnosis and I could

this there was a diagnosis and I could move forward to a solution and so I’m

move forward to a solution and so I’m

move forward to a solution and so I’m sharing this talk with you because even

sharing this talk with you because even

sharing this talk with you because even though I’m there not the medical kind of

though I’m there not the medical kind of

though I’m there not the medical kind of doctor Ellis I did have the opportunity

doctor Ellis I did have the opportunity

doctor Ellis I did have the opportunity this past summer to give a kind of

this past summer to give a kind of

this past summer to give a kind of diagnosis or put words to an experience

diagnosis or put words to an experience

diagnosis or put words to an experience that like Giardia is not a good

that like Giardia is not a good

that like Giardia is not a good experience but an experience that many

experience but an experience that many

experience but an experience that many people across this country have felt so

people across this country have felt so

people across this country have felt so along with a team of researchers this

along with a team of researchers this

along with a team of researchers this past summer we identified that women are

past summer we identified that women are

past summer we identified that women are 50% more likely to switch out of the

50% more likely to switch out of the

50% more likely to switch out of the stem pathway

stem pathway

stem pathway after taking calculus one when

after taking calculus one when

after taking calculus one when controlling for intended major reports

controlling for intended major reports

controlling for intended major reports of instruction previous calculus

of instruction previous calculus

of instruction previous calculus experience SAT or a CT scores

experience SAT or a CT scores

experience SAT or a CT scores school and professor so that means that

school and professor so that means that

school and professor so that means that 50% more of the women who are taking

50% more of the women who are taking

50% more of the women who are taking calc one planning to take calc 2 because

calc one planning to take calc 2 because

calc one planning to take calc 2 because they want to be an engineer they want to

they want to be an engineer they want to

they want to be an engineer they want to be a chemist or whatever are leaving

be a chemist or whatever are leaving

be a chemist or whatever are leaving that after the experience of calc 1

that after the experience of calc 1

that after the experience of calc 1 compared to the men um no this isn’t a

compared to the men um no this isn’t a

compared to the men um no this isn’t a groundbreaking finding much like it

groundbreaking finding much like it

groundbreaking finding much like it wasn’t so groundbreaking that I

wasn’t so groundbreaking that I

wasn’t so groundbreaking that I contracted Giardia after drinking water

contracted Giardia after drinking water

contracted Giardia after drinking water in a country for which I hadn’t

in a country for which I hadn’t

in a country for which I hadn’t developed the proper immunity is in my

developed the proper immunity is in my

developed the proper immunity is in my stomach but like Giardia just by giving

stomach but like Giardia just by giving

stomach but like Giardia just by giving the words to this experience I got to

the words to this experience I got to

the words to this experience I got to help diagnose something that many people

help diagnose something that many people

help diagnose something that many people were feeling now when I give this talk

were feeling now when I give this talk

were feeling now when I give this talk or when I talk about these research

or when I talk about these research

or when I talk about these research findings across the country inevitably

findings across the country inevitably

findings across the country inevitably there will be some in the audience that

there will be some in the audience that

there will be some in the audience that says well what about race and ethnicity

says well what about race and ethnicity

says well what about race and ethnicity have you done similar analyses trying to

have you done similar analyses trying to

have you done similar analyses trying to understand the experience of race and

understand the experience of race and

understand the experience of race and ethnicity with or without gender so

ethnicity with or without gender so

ethnicity with or without gender so maybe looking at the intersectional

maybe looking at the intersectional

maybe looking at the intersectional perspective – and I say well that is a

perspective – and I say well that is a

perspective – and I say well that is a wonderful question

wonderful question

wonderful question unfortunately there is such a low

unfortunately there is such a low

unfortunately there is such a low percentage of non-white students in our

percentage of non-white students in our

percentage of non-white students in our sample that we can’t run the same

sample that we can’t run the same

sample that we can’t run the same statistical analyses to give the same

statistical analyses to give the same

statistical analyses to give the same strong quantifiable results and then the

strong quantifiable results and then the

strong quantifiable results and then the person in the audience like some of you

person in the audience like some of you

person in the audience like some of you I’m seeing right now nod your head and

I’m seeing right now nod your head and

I’m seeing right now nod your head and understand MIT um the person feels good

understand MIT um the person feels good

understand MIT um the person feels good because they ask the right question I

because they ask the right question I

because they ask the right question I feel good because I gave the right

feel good because I gave the right

feel good because I gave the right answer and then we move on so this has

answer and then we move on so this has

answer and then we move on so this has happened for years I’ve been presenting

happened for years I’ve been presenting

happened for years I’ve been presenting on this data for years and been giving

on this data for years and been giving

on this data for years and been giving these answers for years and it’s been

these answers for years and it’s been

these answers for years and it’s been fine and it struck me that it was

fine and it struck me that it was

fine and it struck me that it was similar to when I went to the health

similar to when I went to the health

similar to when I went to the health center and said I’m having these

center and said I’m having these

center and said I’m having these symptoms and they said most likely you

symptoms and they said most likely you

symptoms and they said most likely you just have a stomach flu here’s a remedy

just have a stomach flu here’s a remedy

just have a stomach flu here’s a remedy and that remedy had no bearing it didn’t

and that remedy had no bearing it didn’t

and that remedy had no bearing it didn’t help me at all because it wasn’t what I

help me at all because it wasn’t what I

help me at all because it wasn’t what I was experiencing that by not actually

was experiencing that by not actually

was experiencing that by not actually looking at the experiences of these

looking at the experiences of these

looking at the experiences of these students of color in our calculus

students of color in our calculus

students of color in our calculus classes even though they’re a smaller

classes even though they’re a smaller

classes even though they’re a smaller percentage that were making their

percentage that were making their

percentage that were making their experiences invisible much like the

experiences invisible much like the

experiences invisible much like the doctors made my journey invisible by not

doctors made my journey invisible by not

doctors made my journey invisible by not testing for it and so what we’re doing

testing for it and so what we’re doing

testing for it and so what we’re doing is not understanding the actual

is not understanding the actual

is not understanding the actual experiences of these students in the

experiences of these students in the

experiences of these students in the same way that we can in order to provide

same way that we can in order to provide

same way that we can in order to provide a solution so we have two problems here

a solution so we have two problems here

a solution so we have two problems here we have the problem of diversity and

we have the problem of diversity and

we have the problem of diversity and stem that we’re all well aware of it’s

stem that we’re all well aware of it’s

stem that we’re all well aware of it’s being published all over and talked

being published all over and talked

being published all over and talked about in the news but we also have the

about in the news but we also have the

about in the news but we also have the problem among researchers that when we

problem among researchers that when we

problem among researchers that when we write these findings when we talk about

write these findings when we talk about

write these findings when we talk about them when we answer these questions

them when we answer these questions

them when we answer these questions we’re not really looking deeper into

we’re not really looking deeper into

we’re not really looking deeper into what’s happening with our answers so

what’s happening with our answers so

what’s happening with our answers so although my answer has been accepted as

although my answer has been accepted as

although my answer has been accepted as correct it is correct it’s expect or

correct it is correct it’s expect or

correct it is correct it’s expect or accepted by the research community it

accepted by the research community it

accepted by the research community it doesn’t tell the full story and so I was

doesn’t tell the full story and so I was

doesn’t tell the full story and so I was recommended to not just come up here and

recommended to not just come up here and

recommended to not just come up here and tell you some problems but also try to

tell you some problems but also try to

tell you some problems but also try to understand some solutions now certainly

understand some solutions now certainly

understand some solutions now certainly the problem of diversity and stem and

the problem of diversity and stem and

the problem of diversity and stem and representation of women and students of

representation of women and students of

representation of women and students of color and persistence is not so easy to

color and persistence is not so easy to

color and persistence is not so easy to solve as the pill that they gave me to

solve as the pill that they gave me to

solve as the pill that they gave me to solve merger Ardea but we can think

solve merger Ardea but we can think

solve merger Ardea but we can think about ways to go about it by just trying

about ways to go about it by just trying

about ways to go about it by just trying to actually understand what’s happening

to actually understand what’s happening

to actually understand what’s happening so here we are we’re at Colorado School

so here we are we’re at Colorado School

so here we are we’re at Colorado School of Mines many of you are students and

of Mines many of you are students and

of Mines many of you are students and and so I understand that you probably

and so I understand that you probably

and so I understand that you probably get the situation that’s going on here

get the situation that’s going on here

get the situation that’s going on here but I’m just going to share some numbers

but I’m just going to share some numbers

but I’m just going to share some numbers really quick so Colorado School of Mines

really quick so Colorado School of Mines

really quick so Colorado School of Mines is almost entirely a stem school there’s

is almost entirely a stem school there’s

is almost entirely a stem school there’s some economics majors but we’ll just

some economics majors but we’ll just

some economics majors but we’ll just group them into stem for now in 2014

group them into stem for now in 2014

group them into stem for now in 2014 there were about 900 students graduated

there were about 900 students graduated

there were about 900 students graduated with stem degrees of those 900 students

with stem degrees of those 900 students

with stem degrees of those 900 students around 25 percent were earned by women

around 25 percent were earned by women

around 25 percent were earned by women on less than 10 percent were earned by

on less than 10 percent were earned by

on less than 10 percent were earned by Hispanic and Latino students and less

Hispanic and Latino students and less

Hispanic and Latino students and less than 1% were earned by black or

than 1% were earned by black or

than 1% were earned by black or african-american students so I imagined

african-american students so I imagined

african-american students so I imagined that the classes here at Colorado School

that the classes here at Colorado School

that the classes here at Colorado School of Mines the calculus classes which are

of Mines the calculus classes which are

of Mines the calculus classes which are feeding into these stem majors look

feeding into these stem majors look

feeding into these stem majors look fairly similar if not even more

fairly similar if not even more

fairly similar if not even more homogeneous than this sample that I

homogeneous than this sample that I

homogeneous than this sample that I looked at in my study and so what can

looked at in my study and so what can

looked at in my study and so what can you do as students as faculty as parents

you do as students as faculty as parents

you do as students as faculty as parents whatever your relationship is to this

whatever your relationship is to this

whatever your relationship is to this University as students I want you to be

University as students I want you to be

University as students I want you to be asking more questions I recommend that

asking more questions I recommend that

asking more questions I recommend that you think about why do your classes look

you think about why do your classes look

you think about why do your classes look the way that they do or if you read

the way that they do or if you read

the way that they do or if you read research try to understand why is there

research try to understand why is there

research try to understand why is there too few students to be able to do a

too few students to be able to do a

too few students to be able to do a similar analysis what’s put in the

similar analysis what’s put in the

similar analysis what’s put in the footnote of multiple of my studies right

footnote of multiple of my studies right

footnote of multiple of my studies right now

now

now and if you’re in the position

and if you’re in the position

and if you’re in the position be giving answers to people which is a

be giving answers to people which is a

be giving answers to people which is a wonderful place to be in I want you to

wonderful place to be in I want you to

wonderful place to be in I want you to question those answers that you’re

question those answers that you’re

question those answers that you’re really comfortable giving because

really comfortable giving because

really comfortable giving because although they might be right that night

although they might be right that night

although they might be right that night might not be the full story so we need

might not be the full story so we need

might not be the full story so we need to do better at looking into what’s

to do better at looking into what’s

to do better at looking into what’s actually going on so for me this talk is

actually going on so for me this talk is

actually going on so for me this talk is a public coming out and acknowledging

a public coming out and acknowledging

a public coming out and acknowledging that when I gave that answer so many

that when I gave that answer so many

that when I gave that answer so many times that I was missing the whole story

times that I was missing the whole story

times that I was missing the whole story and I’m asking of you today to be

and I’m asking of you today to be

and I’m asking of you today to be curious like we just heard in the past

curious like we just heard in the past

curious like we just heard in the past talk and ask more of those questions and

talk and ask more of those questions and

talk and ask more of those questions and question the answers that you’re

question the answers that you’re

question the answers that you’re speaking thank you

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