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Engineering and Social Justice | John Leyden | TEDxCSM


thank you one of the most rewarding

thank you one of the most rewarding aspects of being a professor at mines is

aspects of being a professor at mines is

aspects of being a professor at mines is working with students as they make

working with students as they make

working with students as they make connections in the mid-2000s riding a

connections in the mid-2000s riding a

connections in the mid-2000s riding a wave of post-911 interest in public

wave of post-911 interest in public

wave of post-911 interest in public public issues and global issues students

public issues and global issues students

public issues and global issues students started to ask a whole new set of

started to ask a whole new set of

started to ask a whole new set of questions I’ve been here 20 years and

questions I’ve been here 20 years and

questions I’ve been here 20 years and mid 2000s was a turning point and those

mid 2000s was a turning point and those

mid 2000s was a turning point and those questions were absolutely different than

questions were absolutely different than

questions were absolutely different than the ones they were asking before one of

the ones they were asking before one of

the ones they were asking before one of those questions was from a student

those questions was from a student

those questions was from a student sitting across from me in my office how

sitting across from me in my office how

sitting across from me in my office how do I take my interest in engineering and

do I take my interest in engineering and

do I take my interest in engineering and combine it with my passion for social

combine it with my passion for social

combine it with my passion for social justice engineering social justice I was

justice engineering social justice I was

justice engineering social justice I was both baffled and intrigued it was that

both baffled and intrigued it was that

both baffled and intrigued it was that question that was planted by multiple

question that was planted by multiple

question that was planted by multiple students in the middle of the 2000s that

students in the middle of the 2000s that

students in the middle of the 2000s that ended up being launching a journey that

ended up being launching a journey that

ended up being launching a journey that lasted over ten years that journey is my

lasted over ten years that journey is my

lasted over ten years that journey is my story today it’s the story that took me

story today it’s the story that took me

story today it’s the story that took me to the National Academy of Engineering

to the National Academy of Engineering

to the National Academy of Engineering to work on two National Science

to work on two National Science

to work on two National Science Foundation grants and also to publish

Foundation grants and also to publish

Foundation grants and also to publish multiple papers and a forthcoming book

multiple papers and a forthcoming book

multiple papers and a forthcoming book so this combination of engineering and

so this combination of engineering and

so this combination of engineering and social justice was something that

social justice was something that

social justice was something that students were looking at and for me

students were looking at and for me

students were looking at and for me what’s rewarding about my job is working

what’s rewarding about my job is working

what’s rewarding about my job is working with people who are curious hardworking

with people who are curious hardworking

with people who are curious hardworking and determined to find answers and

and determined to find answers and

and determined to find answers and that’s a great description of mine

that’s a great description of mine

that’s a great description of mine students in their first year here they

students in their first year here they

students in their first year here they asked really important questions like

asked really important questions like

asked really important questions like will I make it here will I make friends

will I make it here will I make friends

will I make it here will I make friends here do I belong and in their final year

here do I belong and in their final year

here do I belong and in their final year here they asked congratulation get here

here they asked congratulation get here

here they asked congratulation get here any sooner and after graduation will I

any sooner and after graduation will I

any sooner and after graduation will I ever use differential quit equations

ever use differential quit equations

ever use differential quit equations again and more importantly where will my

again and more importantly where will my

again and more importantly where will my engineering and science career take me

engineering and science career take me

engineering and science career take me next in between that first and last

next in between that first and last

next in between that first and last at mines a lot happens and a lot of

at mines a lot happens and a lot of

at mines a lot happens and a lot of passions are ignited and nurtured last

passions are ignited and nurtured last

passions are ignited and nurtured last year in a survey of mine students this

year in a survey of mine students this

year in a survey of mine students this group of set of passions came up from

group of set of passions came up from

group of set of passions came up from the survey and what you see there is a

the survey and what you see there is a

the survey and what you see there is a tremendously wide array of interests

tremendously wide array of interests

tremendously wide array of interests that mine students have and want to

that mine students have and want to

that mine students have and want to engage while they’re here that that

engage while they’re here that that

engage while they’re here that that particular set of interests is

particular set of interests is

particular set of interests is interesting to me because I’m a

interesting to me because I’m a

interesting to me because I’m a professor in humanities Arts and Social

professor in humanities Arts and Social

professor in humanities Arts and Social Sciences and I want students to be able

Sciences and I want students to be able

Sciences and I want students to be able to be whole people to engage these in

to be whole people to engage these in

to be whole people to engage these in multiple parts of their curriculum one

multiple parts of their curriculum one

multiple parts of their curriculum one aspect of this process is working with

aspect of this process is working with

aspect of this process is working with students as they ask really really

students as they ask really really

students as they ask really really important questions like who and what is

important questions like who and what is

important questions like who and what is engineering for who is best served by

engineering for who is best served by

engineering for who is best served by engineering who is constrained by

engineering who is constrained by

engineering who is constrained by engineering how can engineering be a

engineering how can engineering be a

engineering how can engineering be a force to benefit and help prosper those

force to benefit and help prosper those

force to benefit and help prosper those who were traditionally underserved those

who were traditionally underserved those

who were traditionally underserved those kinds of questions became very

kinds of questions became very

kinds of questions became very fascinating to me and again those seeds

fascinating to me and again those seeds

fascinating to me and again those seeds were planted by students in the mid

were planted by students in the mid

were planted by students in the mid 2000s the next stop in this journey came

2000s the next stop in this journey came

2000s the next stop in this journey came about as a result of my work on

about as a result of my work on

about as a result of my work on connecting engineering and sustainable

connecting engineering and sustainable

connecting engineering and sustainable community development my colleague is

community development my colleague is

community development my colleague is and I were working on this book when we

and I were working on this book when we

and I were working on this book when we received an invitation to a workshop at

received an invitation to a workshop at

received an invitation to a workshop at the National Academy of Engineering in

the National Academy of Engineering in

the National Academy of Engineering in 2008 and that particular workshop

2008 and that particular workshop

2008 and that particular workshop featured people working across multiple

featured people working across multiple

featured people working across multiple lines and one of those was people

lines and one of those was people

lines and one of those was people connecting engineering and social

connecting engineering and social

connecting engineering and social justice and while we were at this

justice and while we were at this

justice and while we were at this workshop we realized that this

workshop we realized that this

workshop we realized that this connection is something that we have not

connection is something that we have not

connection is something that we have not made in our own work but it filled in a

made in our own work but it filled in a

made in our own work but it filled in a missing dimension and we met the author

missing dimension and we met the author

missing dimension and we met the author at this workshop of this book

at this workshop of this book

at this workshop of this book engineering and social justice donna

engineering and social justice donna

engineering and social justice donna riley and we watched as donna riley and

riley and we watched as donna riley and

riley and we watched as donna riley and several others had very intense

several others had very intense

several others had very intense sometimes heated debates with the head

sometimes heated debates with the head

sometimes heated debates with the head of the army corps of engineers and

of the army corps of engineers and

of the army corps of engineers and others who were there

others who were there

others who were there whether engineering and social justice

whether engineering and social justice

whether engineering and social justice should be separated or whether as she

should be separated or whether as she

should be separated or whether as she argued in this book

argued in this book

argued in this book they’re already inherently intertwined

they’re already inherently intertwined

they’re already inherently intertwined what we need to do is just acknowledge

what we need to do is just acknowledge

what we need to do is just acknowledge that reality when we came back to campus

that reality when we came back to campus

that reality when we came back to campus we were so curious about whether

we were so curious about whether

we were so curious about whether engineering and social justice have a

engineering and social justice have a

engineering and social justice have a connection and whether they are

connection and whether they are

connection and whether they are commensurable or incommensurable fields

commensurable or incommensurable fields

commensurable or incommensurable fields of practice so we did what good

of practice so we did what good

of practice so we did what good academics do when they’re curious we

academics do when they’re curious we

academics do when they’re curious we wrote a grant and this grant led us to

wrote a grant and this grant led us to

wrote a grant and this grant led us to work on an NSF grant from 2009 to 2013

work on an NSF grant from 2009 to 2013

work on an NSF grant from 2009 to 2013 in that grant we learned a lot but one

in that grant we learned a lot but one

in that grant we learned a lot but one of our key take-home pata points was we

of our key take-home pata points was we

of our key take-home pata points was we defined engineering for social justice

defined engineering for social justice

defined engineering for social justice in this way

and this gave us a very clear set of

and this gave us a very clear set of objectives and also means by which to

objectives and also means by which to

objectives and also means by which to achieve those objectives and once we had

achieve those objectives and once we had

achieve those objectives and once we had that clearly in mind we were able to

that clearly in mind we were able to

that clearly in mind we were able to evaluate different engineering projects

evaluate different engineering projects

evaluate different engineering projects in terms of the degree to which they

in terms of the degree to which they

in terms of the degree to which they engaged some of our criteria another

engaged some of our criteria another

engaged some of our criteria another thing we encountered in our research is

thing we encountered in our research is

thing we encountered in our research is a disjuncture between engineering

a disjuncture between engineering

a disjuncture between engineering practice that is what engineers do and

practice that is what engineers do and

practice that is what engineers do and the way in which young engineers are

the way in which young engineers are

the way in which young engineers are educated that is engineering education

educated that is engineering education

educated that is engineering education the disjuncture actually comes from

the disjuncture actually comes from

the disjuncture actually comes from thorough research on engineering

thorough research on engineering

thorough research on engineering practice and what it finds is that

practice and what it finds is that

practice and what it finds is that people who stayed in engineering that is

people who stayed in engineering that is

people who stayed in engineering that is more than 10 years actually found a

more than 10 years actually found a

more than 10 years actually found a tremendous amount of joy in connecting

tremendous amount of joy in connecting

tremendous amount of joy in connecting the social and the technical and making

the social and the technical and making

the social and the technical and making that connection very much part of their

that connection very much part of their

that connection very much part of their work in fact one of the leading studies

work in fact one of the leading studies

work in fact one of the leading studies concludes by saying most people found

concludes by saying most people found

concludes by saying most people found these challenges of the social socio

these challenges of the social socio

these challenges of the social socio technical to be the most interesting in

technical to be the most interesting in

technical to be the most interesting in their work but this made us wonder okay

their work but this made us wonder okay

their work but this made us wonder okay so if indeed research on engineering

so if indeed research on engineering

so if indeed research on engineering practice accentuates problem defining

practice accentuates problem defining

practice accentuates problem defining and solving on really complex open-ended

and solving on really complex open-ended

and solving on really complex open-ended socio technical problems where do

socio technical problems where do

socio technical problems where do students learn that in their in

students learn that in their in

students learn that in their in education so we began to look at

education so we began to look at

education so we began to look at different engineering curricula

different engineering curricula

different engineering curricula including one of our own this one and

including one of our own this one and

including one of our own this one and many others and you of course you can’t

many others and you of course you can’t

many others and you of course you can’t see the boxes here but this particular

see the boxes here but this particular

see the boxes here but this particular section has all of the core technical

section has all of the core technical

section has all of the core technical core courses so chemistry physics

core courses so chemistry physics

core courses so chemistry physics calculus and then it has upper division

calculus and then it has upper division

calculus and then it has upper division courses in this case it’s mechanical

courses in this case it’s mechanical

courses in this case it’s mechanical engineering so statics dynamics etc and

engineering so statics dynamics etc and

engineering so statics dynamics etc and so we asked is that socio technical

so we asked is that socio technical

so we asked is that socio technical integration and problem definition

integration and problem definition

integration and problem definition happening there or is it happening over

happening there or is it happening over

happening there or is it happening over here in the design courses or is it over

here in the design courses or is it over

here in the design courses or is it over in my neck of the woods in the

in my neck of the woods in the

in my neck of the woods in the humanities and social science courses

humanities and social science courses

humanities and social science courses what our analysis found is that here in

what our analysis found is that here in

what our analysis found is that here in the big space where most of the credits

the big space where most of the credits

the big space where most of the credits our students encounter mostly technical

our students encounter mostly technical

our students encounter mostly technical predefined closed-ended decontextualized

predefined closed-ended decontextualized

predefined closed-ended decontextualized problems over here in my neck of the

problems over here in my neck of the

problems over here in my neck of the woods we did the exact opposite we

woods we did the exact opposite we

woods we did the exact opposite we divorced the we focused on the social

divorced the we focused on the social

divorced the we focused on the social but divorced it from the technical with

but divorced it from the technical with

but divorced it from the technical with a few exceptions in both cases primarily

a few exceptions in both cases primarily

a few exceptions in both cases primarily the socio technical integration happened

the socio technical integration happened

the socio technical integration happened inside design courses so here and here

inside design courses so here and here

inside design courses so here and here but if you’ll notice those are a

but if you’ll notice those are a

but if you’ll notice those are a minority of the overall curriculum it’s

minority of the overall curriculum it’s

minority of the overall curriculum it’s a very small percentage so that made us

a very small percentage so that made us

a very small percentage so that made us wonder okay how do we address this issue

wonder okay how do we address this issue

wonder okay how do we address this issue and more importantly what’s blocking

and more importantly what’s blocking

and more importantly what’s blocking that socio technical integration well

that socio technical integration well

that socio technical integration well the easy answer was engineering courses

the easy answer was engineering courses

the easy answer was engineering courses are very technical and often my

are very technical and often my

are very technical and often my engineering colleagues tell me there’s

engineering colleagues tell me there’s

engineering colleagues tell me there’s more technical content that can possibly

more technical content that can possibly

more technical content that can possibly fit in any given semester and that’s

fit in any given semester and that’s

fit in any given semester and that’s true but it’s an incomplete answer a

true but it’s an incomplete answer a

true but it’s an incomplete answer a more complete answer acknowledges

more complete answer acknowledges

more complete answer acknowledges engineering ideologies and engineering

engineering ideologies and engineering

engineering ideologies and engineering mindsets and those are up here in the

mindsets and those are up here in the

mindsets and those are up here in the interest of time I’m going to talk about

interest of time I’m going to talk about

interest of time I’m going to talk about two ideologies and two mindsets in

two ideologies and two mindsets in

two ideologies and two mindsets in engineering so let’s start with the

engineering so let’s start with the

engineering so let’s start with the first one technical social dualism so

first one technical social dualism so

first one technical social dualism so this one comes from a book in which an

this one comes from a book in which an

this one comes from a book in which an author of one of the chapters looked at

author of one of the chapters looked at

author of one of the chapters looked at how a particular ideologies which are

how a particular ideologies which are

how a particular ideologies which are circulating in engineering in

circulating in engineering in

circulating in engineering in but are often invisible to most people

but are often invisible to most people

but are often invisible to most people it’s kind of like the fish in the water

it’s kind of like the fish in the water

it’s kind of like the fish in the water we inhabit this water but we don’t know

we inhabit this water but we don’t know

we inhabit this water but we don’t know we’re swimming in it these ideologies

we’re swimming in it these ideologies

we’re swimming in it these ideologies help us often hinder us from thinking

help us often hinder us from thinking

help us often hinder us from thinking about social and justices so one of them

about social and justices so one of them

about social and justices so one of them is technical social dualism which is

is technical social dualism which is

is technical social dualism which is just the idea that the technical and the

just the idea that the technical and the

just the idea that the technical and the social should remain separate that they

social should remain separate that they

social should remain separate that they are not overlapping circles on a Venn

are not overlapping circles on a Venn

are not overlapping circles on a Venn diagram but two completely different

diagram but two completely different

diagram but two completely different domains which of course was the opposite

domains which of course was the opposite

domains which of course was the opposite of what we found in our studies of

of what we found in our studies of

of what we found in our studies of engineering practice in about 25 years

engineering practice in about 25 years

engineering practice in about 25 years of research into science and technology

of research into science and technology

of research into science and technology studies what they found was many of the

studies what they found was many of the

studies what they found was many of the case studies showed just the opposite

case studies showed just the opposite

case studies showed just the opposite that there was an assumption of Technol

that there was an assumption of Technol

that there was an assumption of Technol technical social dualism when in fact

technical social dualism when in fact

technical social dualism when in fact the two were inextricably intertwined

the two were inextricably intertwined

the two were inextricably intertwined the next ideology is called

the next ideology is called

the next ideology is called depoliticization

depoliticization

depoliticization which I had to practice five times so I

which I had to practice five times so I

which I had to practice five times so I could say it this is the idea that

could say it this is the idea that

could say it this is the idea that politics have nothing to do with

politics have nothing to do with

politics have nothing to do with engineering even though engineering

engineering even though engineering

engineering even though engineering happens in a social context it is not

happens in a social context it is not

happens in a social context it is not something that occurs in a vacuum

something that occurs in a vacuum

something that occurs in a vacuum it happens in the society and therefore

it happens in the society and therefore

it happens in the society and therefore it it shapes and is shaped by politics

it it shapes and is shaped by politics

it it shapes and is shaped by politics but D politicization suggests that those

but D politicization suggests that those

but D politicization suggests that those remain completely separate if you look

remain completely separate if you look

remain completely separate if you look at this technological artifact you might

at this technological artifact you might

at this technological artifact you might just say okay so it’s a short-handled

just say okay so it’s a short-handled

just say okay so it’s a short-handled hoe big deal how could that be political

hoe big deal how could that be political

hoe big deal how could that be political how could that have cultural historical

how could that have cultural historical

how could that have cultural historical social dimensions but if you unpack the

social dimensions but if you unpack the

social dimensions but if you unpack the history of this particular technological

history of this particular technological

history of this particular technological artifact what you find is that it was

artifact what you find is that it was

artifact what you find is that it was used as a technology of control so that

used as a technology of control so that

used as a technology of control so that the migrant workers in the fields would

the migrant workers in the fields would

the migrant workers in the fields would have to be hunched over and the foreman

have to be hunched over and the foreman

have to be hunched over and the foreman could see from a laura long distance who

could see from a laura long distance who

could see from a laura long distance who was working that is who was bent over

was working that is who was bent over

was working that is who was bent over and who was not and also it was a way in

and who was not and also it was a way in

and who was not and also it was a way in which they ensured because it’s a non

which they ensured because it’s a non

which they ensured because it’s a non economic position and it’s not easy to

economic position and it’s not easy to

economic position and it’s not easy to talk when you’re hunched over like that

talk when you’re hunched over like that

talk when you’re hunched over like that that workers couldn’t talk about things

that workers couldn’t talk about things

that workers couldn’t talk about things they couldn’t talk about forming a union

they couldn’t talk about forming a union

they couldn’t talk about forming a union or getting better wages or anything else

or getting better wages or anything else

or getting better wages or anything else for that

for that

for that that that was shut down and in that

that that was shut down and in that

that that was shut down and in that sense

sense

sense Langdon winners research reinforces why

Langdon winners research reinforces why

Langdon winners research reinforces why the technology which may itself seem

the technology which may itself seem

the technology which may itself seem neutral actually was part of a regime of

neutral actually was part of a regime of

neutral actually was part of a regime of power Authority and control now that’s

power Authority and control now that’s

power Authority and control now that’s an extreme example in most cases Technol

an extreme example in most cases Technol

an extreme example in most cases Technol technologies and their political

technologies and their political

technologies and their political dimensions are much more subtle and in

dimensions are much more subtle and in

dimensions are much more subtle and in fact one of the authors of this that

fact one of the authors of this that

fact one of the authors of this that discussed this ideology reinforces that

discussed this ideology reinforces that

discussed this ideology reinforces that they’re often implicit in norms and

they’re often implicit in norms and

they’re often implicit in norms and ideologically infused processes of

ideologically infused processes of

ideologically infused processes of problem definition and solutions so an

problem definition and solutions so an

problem definition and solutions so an example is we often focus our

example is we often focus our

example is we often focus our technologies on low-cost mass use but

technologies on low-cost mass use but

technologies on low-cost mass use but that itself has ideological dimensions

that itself has ideological dimensions

that itself has ideological dimensions to it Saudi politicization basically has

to it Saudi politicization basically has

to it Saudi politicization basically has this idea that the political and the

this idea that the political and the

this idea that the political and the cultural and the historical and the an

cultural and the historical and the an

cultural and the historical and the an engineering need to remain separate but

engineering need to remain separate but

engineering need to remain separate but that’s going to keep people from

that’s going to keep people from

that’s going to keep people from thinking about how can engineering and

thinking about how can engineering and

thinking about how can engineering and social justice work together the next

social justice work together the next

social justice work together the next step in our journey involved writing yet

step in our journey involved writing yet

step in our journey involved writing yet another grant this one to integrate

another grant this one to integrate

another grant this one to integrate social justice concepts inside the belly

social justice concepts inside the belly

social justice concepts inside the belly of the beast

of the beast

of the beast the technical curriculum specifically

the technical curriculum specifically

the technical curriculum specifically one course called feedback introduction

one course called feedback introduction

one course called feedback introduction to feedback and controls which is

to feedback and controls which is

to feedback and controls which is required if you’re in mechanical or

required if you’re in mechanical or

required if you’re in mechanical or electrical engineering and this

electrical engineering and this

electrical engineering and this particular course gave us an opportunity

particular course gave us an opportunity

particular course gave us an opportunity to say instead of seeing this as a

to say instead of seeing this as a

to say instead of seeing this as a zero-sum game where it’s either students

zero-sum game where it’s either students

zero-sum game where it’s either students have technical content or they have

have technical content or they have

have technical content or they have social justice exposure we looked at in

social justice exposure we looked at in

social justice exposure we looked at in a completely different way

a completely different way

a completely different way how could social justice dimensions help

how could social justice dimensions help

how could social justice dimensions help students learn the technical better

students learn the technical better

students learn the technical better that was our research question in this

that was our research question in this

that was our research question in this research process and one of the things

research process and one of the things

research process and one of the things we encountered is that students are very

we encountered is that students are very

we encountered is that students are very very used to another form of technical

very used to another form of technical

very used to another form of technical problem solving where the problem comes

problem solving where the problem comes

problem solving where the problem comes to them predefined they don’t have to do

to them predefined they don’t have to do

to them predefined they don’t have to do any of the problem definition that’s

any of the problem definition that’s

any of the problem definition that’s that turns out to be critical among what

that turns out to be critical among what

that turns out to be critical among what engineer engineers in the workplace do

engineer engineers in the workplace do

engineer engineers in the workplace do that

that

that it’s that complex negotiation between

it’s that complex negotiation between

it’s that complex negotiation between clients communities and other

clients communities and other

clients communities and other stakeholders about what is the problem

stakeholders about what is the problem

stakeholders about what is the problem in the first place because each of those

in the first place because each of those

in the first place because each of those stakeholders has different a different

stakeholders has different a different

stakeholders has different a different sense of what the problem is and what we

sense of what the problem is and what we

sense of what the problem is and what we found is that when students get hundreds

found is that when students get hundreds

found is that when students get hundreds sometimes thousands of predefined

sometimes thousands of predefined

sometimes thousands of predefined problems in their engineering curriculum

problems in their engineering curriculum

problems in their engineering curriculum it makes them have an uncritical

it makes them have an uncritical

it makes them have an uncritical acceptance of authority because they

acceptance of authority because they

acceptance of authority because they think someone else gives me the problem

think someone else gives me the problem

think someone else gives me the problem I just solve it but it’s not that simple

I just solve it but it’s not that simple

I just solve it but it’s not that simple problem definition is a crucial

problem definition is a crucial

problem definition is a crucial dimension in engineering practice the

dimension in engineering practice the

dimension in engineering practice the final the final mindset is a Willington

final the final mindset is a Willington

final the final mindset is a Willington willingness to help and unlike the other

willingness to help and unlike the other

willingness to help and unlike the other ideologies and mindsets this one is an

ideologies and mindsets this one is an

ideologies and mindsets this one is an opportunity not a barrier a willingness

opportunity not a barrier a willingness

opportunity not a barrier a willingness to help is basically this idea that

to help is basically this idea that

to help is basically this idea that anyone who’s been around engineers for

anyone who’s been around engineers for

anyone who’s been around engineers for as long as I have or or or even longer

as long as I have or or or even longer

as long as I have or or or even longer recognizes that there’s a helping spirit

recognizes that there’s a helping spirit

recognizes that there’s a helping spirit here engineers are problem solvers they

here engineers are problem solvers they

here engineers are problem solvers they say I see a problem I want to make a

say I see a problem I want to make a

say I see a problem I want to make a difference and that helping spirit is

difference and that helping spirit is

difference and that helping spirit is fundamental to good social justice work

fundamental to good social justice work

fundamental to good social justice work like this work with a group of minds

like this work with a group of minds

like this work with a group of minds engineers building a bridge connecting

engineers building a bridge connecting

engineers building a bridge connecting two villages in Central America so this

two villages in Central America so this

two villages in Central America so this willingness to help becomes absolutely

willingness to help becomes absolutely

willingness to help becomes absolutely crucial in helping students learn how

crucial in helping students learn how

crucial in helping students learn how problem definition and engineering and

problem definition and engineering and

problem definition and engineering and social justice really have lots of

social justice really have lots of

social justice really have lots of significant overlaps one of the biggest

significant overlaps one of the biggest

significant overlaps one of the biggest takeaways from our research was came

takeaways from our research was came

takeaways from our research was came through interviewing juniors and seniors

through interviewing juniors and seniors

through interviewing juniors and seniors and sitting down with them in interviews

and sitting down with them in interviews

and sitting down with them in interviews and focus groups and asking them what

and focus groups and asking them what

and focus groups and asking them what role do you think the social and the

role do you think the social and the

role do you think the social and the technical play a year or two from now

technical play a year or two from now

technical play a year or two from now when you’ve graduated and you’re out and

when you’ve graduated and you’re out and

when you’ve graduated and you’re out and you’re actually in engineering practice

you’re actually in engineering practice

you’re actually in engineering practice and their comments were oh yeah that’s

and their comments were oh yeah that’s

and their comments were oh yeah that’s something that’s really important both

something that’s really important both

something that’s really important both the socio technical and social justice

the socio technical and social justice

the socio technical and social justice are important dimensions for practicing

are important dimensions for practicing

are important dimensions for practicing engineers and then we asked them what

engineers and then we asked them what

engineers and then we asked them what exposure did you have to socio technical

exposure did you have to socio technical

exposure did you have to socio technical dimensions and social justice in your

dimensions and social justice in your

dimensions and social justice in your undergraduate engineering education and

undergraduate engineering education and

undergraduate engineering education and most of them told us that with a very

most of them told us that with a very

most of them told us that with a very few exceptions

few exceptions

few exceptions they have limited to no exposure and we

they have limited to no exposure and we

they have limited to no exposure and we see this as an opportunity to integrate

see this as an opportunity to integrate

see this as an opportunity to integrate engineering and social justice across

engineering and social justice across

engineering and social justice across different components of the curriculum

different components of the curriculum

different components of the curriculum where it’s most relevant and some places

where it’s most relevant and some places

where it’s most relevant and some places are much more relevant than others our

are much more relevant than others our

are much more relevant than others our future work looks at how engineering and

future work looks at how engineering and

future work looks at how engineering and social justice can work in three

social justice can work in three

social justice can work in three particular components of the oven

particular components of the oven

particular components of the oven engineering curriculum so in engineering

engineering curriculum so in engineering

engineering curriculum so in engineering design the engineering sciences and also

design the engineering sciences and also

design the engineering sciences and also humanities and social sciences courses

humanities and social sciences courses

humanities and social sciences courses for engineers so one of the things I

for engineers so one of the things I

for engineers so one of the things I want to do is circle back to the

want to do is circle back to the

want to do is circle back to the mid-2000s when a group of students

mid-2000s when a group of students

mid-2000s when a group of students walked into my office and said how do we

walked into my office and said how do we

walked into my office and said how do we make this connection between our

make this connection between our

make this connection between our interest in engineering and our passion

interest in engineering and our passion

interest in engineering and our passion for social justice first of all if there

for social justice first of all if there

for social justice first of all if there any alumni in the room and you were one

any alumni in the room and you were one

any alumni in the room and you were one of those people come find me today

of those people come find me today

of those people come find me today because I want to thank you and shake

because I want to thank you and shake

because I want to thank you and shake your hand this particular research has

your hand this particular research has

your hand this particular research has been pivotal for me it’s changed the way

been pivotal for me it’s changed the way

been pivotal for me it’s changed the way I teach and what I teach it’s changed

I teach and what I teach it’s changed

I teach and what I teach it’s changed the way I do research and the way I see

the way I do research and the way I see

the way I do research and the way I see this connection between engineering and

this connection between engineering and

this connection between engineering and social justice and in particular what

social justice and in particular what

social justice and in particular what engineering can do to leverage social

engineering can do to leverage social

engineering can do to leverage social justice for a better future I also want

justice for a better future I also want

justice for a better future I also want to thank the National Science Foundation

to thank the National Science Foundation

to thank the National Science Foundation for supporting us through two of their

for supporting us through two of their

for supporting us through two of their grants and most of all I want to give a

grants and most of all I want to give a

grants and most of all I want to give a big shout-out to CSM students past and

big shout-out to CSM students past and

big shout-out to CSM students past and present for doing what you do and for

present for doing what you do and for

present for doing what you do and for your intense curiosity which has a

your intense curiosity which has a

your intense curiosity which has a ripple effect on us professors thank you

ripple effect on us professors thank you

ripple effect on us professors thank you very much I appreciate it

very much I appreciate it

very much I appreciate it [Applause]

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