welcome to our Google+ Hangout celebrating 125 years of it hello
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celebrating 125 years of it hello everyone and welcome to national
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cats initiative on this google on this
cats initiative on this google on this givingtuesday i’m luke dollar a National
givingtuesday i’m luke dollar a National
givingtuesday i’m luke dollar a National Geographic Explorer and I help manage
Geographic Explorer and I help manage
Geographic Explorer and I help manage the big cats initiative it’s big cat
the big cats initiative it’s big cat
the big cats initiative it’s big cat week at National Geographic and today
week at National Geographic and today
week at National Geographic and today we’re talking about the endangered
we’re talking about the endangered
we’re talking about the endangered felines with the people that are raising
felines with the people that are raising
felines with the people that are raising awareness and doing something to
awareness and doing something to
awareness and doing something to conserve them we’ve got a great lineup
conserve them we’ve got a great lineup
conserve them we’ve got a great lineup of participants who are here joining me
of participants who are here joining me
of participants who are here joining me today are four partners in big cat
today are four partners in big cat
today are four partners in big cat conservation that we have and I’ll
conservation that we have and I’ll
conservation that we have and I’ll introduce them one by one and let them
introduce them one by one and let them
introduce them one by one and let them say hello very briefly first on the
say hello very briefly first on the
say hello very briefly first on the lineup is photographer Steve winter
lineup is photographer Steve winter
lineup is photographer Steve winter Steve where are you and where are you
Steve where are you and where are you
Steve where are you and where are you headed right now I’m in hoboken new
headed right now I’m in hoboken new
headed right now I’m in hoboken new jersey hi everyone and I am heading to
jersey hi everyone and I am heading to
jersey hi everyone and I am heading to india in a couple hours do some tiger
india in a couple hours do some tiger
india in a couple hours do some tiger work fantastic also on the line is
work fantastic also on the line is
work fantastic also on the line is National Geographic channel’s big cat
National Geographic channel’s big cat
National Geographic channel’s big cat tracker Boone Smith Boone hi where are
tracker Boone Smith Boone hi where are
tracker Boone Smith Boone hi where are you and where are you headed next
you and where are you headed next
you and where are you headed next everybody i am in I selfies died over
everybody i am in I selfies died over
everybody i am in I selfies died over right now geared up to head back to
right now geared up to head back to
right now geared up to head back to Wyoming for not like a thurs and joining
Wyoming for not like a thurs and joining
Wyoming for not like a thurs and joining us on the phone from Tanzania are big
us on the phone from Tanzania are big
us on the phone from Tanzania are big cats initiative grantee Amy dyckman and
cats initiative grantee Amy dyckman and
cats initiative grantee Amy dyckman and Leigh Leigh lichtenfeld Amy are you on
Leigh Leigh lichtenfeld Amy are you on
Leigh Leigh lichtenfeld Amy are you on the line with us and where are you
the line with us and where are you
the line with us and where are you calling from hi everyone yes I’m on
calling from hi everyone yes I’m on
calling from hi everyone yes I’m on design I’m encoding from a case in the
design I’m encoding from a case in the
design I’m encoding from a case in the middle of the company at such a tall
middle of the company at such a tall
middle of the company at such a tall sales so we’ve got 11 caller from a tent
sales so we’ve got 11 caller from a tent
sales so we’ve got 11 caller from a tent in ruaha and tanzania and Leigh Leigh
in ruaha and tanzania and Leigh Leigh
in ruaha and tanzania and Leigh Leigh lichtenfeld I think you’re also there in
lichtenfeld I think you’re also there in
lichtenfeld I think you’re also there in Tanzania in the bush can you hear me and
Tanzania in the bush can you hear me and
Tanzania in the bush can you hear me and where are you I guess one yep I’m like
where are you I guess one yep I’m like
where are you I guess one yep I’m like here and I can hear you all I’m calling
here and I can hear you all I’m calling
here and I can hear you all I’m calling in from the Magnificent Masai except for
in from the Magnificent Masai except for
in from the Magnificent Masai except for our environment
our environment
our environment Center where we had a beautiful view of
Center where we had a beautiful view of
Center where we had a beautiful view of the stars this evening fantastic and
the stars this evening fantastic and
the stars this evening fantastic and don’t forget everyone that’s on the
don’t forget everyone that’s on the
don’t forget everyone that’s on the Hangout we want to hear from you post
Hangout we want to hear from you post
Hangout we want to hear from you post your questions on social media for a big
your questions on social media for a big
your questions on social media for a big cat experts with the hashtag big cats bi
cat experts with the hashtag big cats bi
cat experts with the hashtag big cats bi G C 80s and we’ll try our best to answer
G C 80s and we’ll try our best to answer
G C 80s and we’ll try our best to answer them and get to them during this Google
them and get to them during this Google
them and get to them during this Google hangout I thought what we might do to
hangout I thought what we might do to
hangout I thought what we might do to open the call and the Hangout was to ask
open the call and the Hangout was to ask
open the call and the Hangout was to ask each of the participants how they got
each of the participants how they got
each of the participants how they got involved with their field specifically
involved with their field specifically
involved with their field specifically why big cats we’ve already got one
why big cats we’ve already got one
why big cats we’ve already got one question here Amy this is from stephanie
question here Amy this is from stephanie
question here Amy this is from stephanie kolp via facebook a lot of people are
kolp via facebook a lot of people are
kolp via facebook a lot of people are fascinated with your work Amy you have
fascinated with your work Amy you have
fascinated with your work Amy you have some pretty amazing stories how did you
some pretty amazing stories how did you
some pretty amazing stories how did you get started as a big cat conservationist
get started as a big cat conservationist
get started as a big cat conservationist Amy what do you specifically do and how
Amy what do you specifically do and how
Amy what do you specifically do and how did you get started it can interesting
did you get started it can interesting
did you get started it can interesting question I was always fascinated by
question I was always fascinated by
question I was always fascinated by state cat I’m not quite sure why so
state cat I’m not quite sure why so
state cat I’m not quite sure why so anyhow domestic cats or where they were
anyhow domestic cats or where they were
anyhow domestic cats or where they were quite large and grumpy so it was always
quite large and grumpy so it was always
quite large and grumpy so it was always it’s a real transformation ever since I
it’s a real transformation ever since I
it’s a real transformation ever since I small and that are all the way through
small and that are all the way through
small and that are all the way through school and that is the wallet in degree
school and that is the wallet in degree
school and that is the wallet in degree and after that when she joins the
and after that when she joins the
and after that when she joins the wildlife conservation research unit
wildlife conservation research unit
wildlife conservation research unit adopts the University and that’s a lot
adopts the University and that’s a lot
adopts the University and that’s a lot of work that doesn’t beat ass that’s a
of work that doesn’t beat ass that’s a
of work that doesn’t beat ass that’s a great place significant fields i started
great place significant fields i started
great place significant fields i started in Numidia with the cheetah conservation
in Numidia with the cheetah conservation
in Numidia with the cheetah conservation funds before i started my own work here
funds before i started my own work here
funds before i started my own work here in Tanzania so it was just meeting lots
in Tanzania so it was just meeting lots
in Tanzania so it was just meeting lots of good people who are all search didn’t
of good people who are all search didn’t
of good people who are all search didn’t think at fantastic thanks Amy Layla
think at fantastic thanks Amy Layla
think at fantastic thanks Amy Layla you’re also there in Tanzania where did
you’re also there in Tanzania where did
you’re also there in Tanzania where did you start your path to being where you
you start your path to being where you
you start your path to being where you are now in doing what you’re doing I
are now in doing what you’re doing I
are now in doing what you’re doing I always had another one since I was a
always had another one since I was a
always had another one since I was a little girl and I forget first got the
little girl and I forget first got the
little girl and I forget first got the opportunity to see them in Kenya with
opportunity to see them in Kenya with
opportunity to see them in Kenya with the National Outdoor Leadership School
the National Outdoor Leadership School
the National Outdoor Leadership School or no that’s nice too and after that I
or no that’s nice too and after that I
or no that’s nice too and after that I was fortunate to get a Fulbright
was fortunate to get a Fulbright
was fortunate to get a Fulbright scholarships do research in Kenya and
scholarships do research in Kenya and
scholarships do research in Kenya and you know on with my work masters and PhD
you know on with my work masters and PhD
you know on with my work masters and PhD at Yale and just have a love of Africa
at Yale and just have a love of Africa
at Yale and just have a love of Africa the people in the wildlife and it’s been
the people in the wildlife and it’s been
the people in the wildlife and it’s been here ever since lately about how many
here ever since lately about how many
here ever since lately about how many months a year do you spend there and the
months a year do you spend there and the
months a year do you spend there and the in Tanzania gardania’s home so as many
in Tanzania gardania’s home so as many
in Tanzania gardania’s home so as many months as I can usually 10 must be at
months as I can usually 10 must be at
months as I can usually 10 must be at least a little jaunt to the space to
least a little jaunt to the space to
least a little jaunt to the space to raise awareness of what we do fantastic
raise awareness of what we do fantastic
raise awareness of what we do fantastic and and Boone I think a little bit
and and Boone I think a little bit
and and Boone I think a little bit closer to home you’re here in America
closer to home you’re here in America
closer to home you’re here in America tell us a little bit about how you got
tell us a little bit about how you got
tell us a little bit about how you got started as a big cat tracker and big cat
started as a big cat tracker and big cat
started as a big cat tracker and big cat Wrangler um yeah yo Mike was just kind
Wrangler um yeah yo Mike was just kind
Wrangler um yeah yo Mike was just kind of the way I was brought up when I was a
of the way I was brought up when I was a
of the way I was brought up when I was a kid every last second was spending the
kid every last second was spending the
kid every last second was spending the outdoors I grew up in a family that
outdoors I grew up in a family that
outdoors I grew up in a family that really took a lot of pride in and being
really took a lot of pride in and being
really took a lot of pride in and being good and some of the things that I hope
good and some of the things that I hope
good and some of the things that I hope your gotta grab on and the father that
your gotta grab on and the father that
your gotta grab on and the father that taught me to try and do a lot of things
taught me to try and do a lot of things
taught me to try and do a lot of things and so as it came time to make a
and so as it came time to make a
and so as it came time to make a transition to go to school and choose a
transition to go to school and choose a
transition to go to school and choose a career wildlife bio ha you just seem to
career wildlife bio ha you just seem to
career wildlife bio ha you just seem to be the natural way and i was watching
be the natural way and i was watching
be the natural way and i was watching enough to work with some of them the
enough to work with some of them the
enough to work with some of them the best scientists and biologists in the
best scientists and biologists in the
best scientists and biologists in the world and kind of really refined some
world and kind of really refined some
world and kind of really refined some techniques be part of them some really
techniques be part of them some really
techniques be part of them some really great studies and it’s just kind of
great studies and it’s just kind of
great studies and it’s just kind of exploded from there you know now i get
exploded from there you know now i get
exploded from there you know now i get an opportunity to spend a bunch of days
an opportunity to spend a bunch of days
an opportunity to spend a bunch of days out in the field tracking big calcium
out in the field tracking big calcium
out in the field tracking big calcium right you have a captain is kind of
right you have a captain is kind of
right you have a captain is kind of turned into a dream job awesome I
turned into a dream job awesome I
turned into a dream job awesome I believe we’ve actually got a photograph
believe we’ve actually got a photograph
believe we’ve actually got a photograph of Steve winters newest book that will
of Steve winters newest book that will
of Steve winters newest book that will try to put up online but will try to
try to put up online but will try to
try to put up online but will try to roll in for you guys to see Steve you’re
roll in for you guys to see Steve you’re
roll in for you guys to see Steve you’re out in the field quite a bit behind a
out in the field quite a bit behind a
out in the field quite a bit behind a camera your recently published book
camera your recently published book
camera your recently published book Tigers forever saving the world’s most
Tigers forever saving the world’s most
Tigers forever saving the world’s most endangered big cat plus a lot of
endangered big cat plus a lot of
endangered big cat plus a lot of magazine work and a recent article about
magazine work and a recent article about
magazine work and a recent article about Cougars features your work what for you
Cougars features your work what for you
Cougars features your work what for you too big cats and specifically
too big cats and specifically
too big cats and specifically photography as a medium for promoting
photography as a medium for promoting
photography as a medium for promoting big cats and communicating issues around
big cats and communicating issues around
big cats and communicating issues around them well I wanted to be a National
them well I wanted to be a National
them well I wanted to be a National Geographic photographer since I was
Geographic photographer since I was
Geographic photographer since I was eight years old growing up in Indiana I
eight years old growing up in Indiana I
eight years old growing up in Indiana I think cats chose me I didn’t choose big
think cats chose me I didn’t choose big
think cats chose me I didn’t choose big cats my first story I did for the
cats my first story I did for the
cats my first story I did for the magazine a Jaguar came to my door 19 and
magazine a Jaguar came to my door 19 and
magazine a Jaguar came to my door 19 and scratched under the door and sniffed and
scratched under the door and sniffed and
scratched under the door and sniffed and scared me to death and then I some about
scared me to death and then I some about
scared me to death and then I some about three
three
three weeks later and then I decided I was
weeks later and then I decided I was
weeks later and then I decided I was going to leave and and because I kind of
going to leave and and because I kind of
going to leave and and because I kind of didn’t know how to react so I came back
didn’t know how to react so I came back
didn’t know how to react so I came back and called Alan Rabinowitz up who is now
and called Alan Rabinowitz up who is now
and called Alan Rabinowitz up who is now CEO of panthera and asked him whether he
CEO of panthera and asked him whether he
CEO of panthera and asked him whether he thought we’d get it would be possible do
thought we’d get it would be possible do
thought we’d get it would be possible do a Jaguar story so I did the first Jaguar
a Jaguar story so I did the first Jaguar
a Jaguar story so I did the first Jaguar story for National Geographic magazine
story for National Geographic magazine
story for National Geographic magazine and that began my career working uh you
and that began my career working uh you
and that began my career working uh you know mainly with him he got me started
know mainly with him he got me started
know mainly with him he got me started on Tigers too and my 10 years with
on Tigers too and my 10 years with
on Tigers too and my 10 years with Tigers that resulted in the book Tigers
Tigers that resulted in the book Tigers
Tigers that resulted in the book Tigers forever that was just published two
forever that was just published two
forever that was just published two weeks ago thanks Steve you photographed
weeks ago thanks Steve you photographed
weeks ago thanks Steve you photographed Cougars snow leopards tigers and jaguars
Cougars snow leopards tigers and jaguars
Cougars snow leopards tigers and jaguars if you had to pick one big cat to
if you had to pick one big cat to
if you had to pick one big cat to photograph again what would it be well I
photograph again what would it be well I
photograph again what would it be well I love all of them i mean you know not not
love all of them i mean you know not not
love all of them i mean you know not not having a background in biology or
having a background in biology or
having a background in biology or anything you know they’re also unique in
anything you know they’re also unique in
anything you know they’re also unique in their own way snow leopards were so
their own way snow leopards were so
their own way snow leopards were so difficult because of the physical nests
difficult because of the physical nests
difficult because of the physical nests and the cold sleeping out at 30 to 50
and the cold sleeping out at 30 to 50
and the cold sleeping out at 30 to 50 degrees below zero you can see Tigers
degrees below zero you can see Tigers
degrees below zero you can see Tigers and they’re the most endangered so I
and they’re the most endangered so I
and they’re the most endangered so I would say that you know like I’m going
would say that you know like I’m going
would say that you know like I’m going back to do tiger work right now with my
back to do tiger work right now with my
back to do tiger work right now with my wife wrote the book we’re doing some
wife wrote the book we’re doing some
wife wrote the book we’re doing some videos for National Geographic magazine
videos for National Geographic magazine
videos for National Geographic magazine website and I want to keep doing that
website and I want to keep doing that
website and I want to keep doing that that’s what we need to do to raise
that’s what we need to do to raise
that’s what we need to do to raise awareness and give people reason to care
awareness and give people reason to care
awareness and give people reason to care the most popular animal or cat in the
the most popular animal or cat in the
the most popular animal or cat in the world is also the most endangered big
world is also the most endangered big
world is also the most endangered big cat now there’s something wrong about
cat now there’s something wrong about
cat now there’s something wrong about that balance and we need to figure it
that balance and we need to figure it
that balance and we need to figure it out absolutely Steve we’ve got a
out absolutely Steve we’ve got a
out absolutely Steve we’ve got a question for you that came from
question for you that came from
question for you that came from anne-marie Corp and Denmark on google+
anne-marie Corp and Denmark on google+
anne-marie Corp and Denmark on google+ and her question for you is in order to
and her question for you is in order to
and her question for you is in order to get the picture where is your limit in
get the picture where is your limit in
get the picture where is your limit in terms of the distance to big cats you
terms of the distance to big cats you
terms of the distance to big cats you know not only for the cat safety but
know not only for the cat safety but
know not only for the cat safety but your own safety what’s your limit Steve
your own safety what’s your limit Steve
your own safety what’s your limit Steve well I think respect is number one that
well I think respect is number one that
well I think respect is number one that we don’t do anything that will harm the
we don’t do anything that will harm the
we don’t do anything that will harm the animal in any way shape or form I use
animal in any way shape or form I use
animal in any way shape or form I use remote cameras because of that uh I like
remote cameras because of that uh I like
remote cameras because of that uh I like getting a very intimate view that the
getting a very intimate view that the
getting a very intimate view that the animal ends up taking itself with a
animal ends up taking itself with a
animal ends up taking itself with a camera trap so I do that as far as
camera trap so I do that as far as
camera trap so I do that as far as danger goes I work with local people the
danger goes I work with local people the
danger goes I work with local people the guards that protect these animals I need
guards that protect these animals I need
guards that protect these animals I need to trust them and to trust them I need
to trust them and to trust them I need
to trust them and to trust them I need to respect them a hundred percent and
to respect them a hundred percent and
to respect them a hundred percent and what they tell me to do I do and because
what they tell me to do I do and because
what they tell me to do I do and because they’re the experts not me so you don’t
they’re the experts not me so you don’t
they’re the experts not me so you don’t get close you just follow their lead and
get close you just follow their lead and
get close you just follow their lead and go from there in Steve you’ve actually
go from there in Steve you’ve actually
go from there in Steve you’ve actually been out in the field with Boone so I’d
been out in the field with Boone so I’d
been out in the field with Boone so I’d like to kind of throw this question to
like to kind of throw this question to
like to kind of throw this question to him you know Boone has hosted the film
him you know Boone has hosted the film
him you know Boone has hosted the film crews and photographers and and also
crews and photographers and and also
crews and photographers and and also works very closely with researchers
works very closely with researchers
works very closely with researchers colouring cats tracking cats taking
colouring cats tracking cats taking
colouring cats tracking cats taking measurements etc Boone what’s what’s
measurements etc Boone what’s what’s
measurements etc Boone what’s what’s your what’s your limit in terms of your
your what’s your limit in terms of your
your what’s your limit in terms of your own safety and the safety of the cats
own safety and the safety of the cats
own safety and the safety of the cats when you’re in the field with them yeah
when you’re in the field with them yeah
when you’re in the field with them yeah our scenario is just a little bit
our scenario is just a little bit
our scenario is just a little bit different don’t because obviously we’re
different don’t because obviously we’re
different don’t because obviously we’re going out and you have an animal like a
going out and you have an animal like a
going out and you have an animal like a cougar or a Snow Leopard extremely
cougar or a Snow Leopard extremely
cougar or a Snow Leopard extremely secretive elusive it’s really hard to be
secretive elusive it’s really hard to be
secretive elusive it’s really hard to be able to go out just observe it so that’s
able to go out just observe it so that’s
able to go out just observe it so that’s we need those radio colors not to be
we need those radio colors not to be
we need those radio colors not to be able to get the information and that
able to get the information and that
able to get the information and that means we need to physically have the cat
means we need to physically have the cat
means we need to physically have the cat and I hands at some point in time and I
and I hands at some point in time and I
and I hands at some point in time and I feel fortunate in the sense that I
feel fortunate in the sense that I
feel fortunate in the sense that I didn’t even look work with what your
didn’t even look work with what your
didn’t even look work with what your groups like that pantera Wildlife
groups like that pantera Wildlife
groups like that pantera Wildlife Conservation Society Craig energy saw
Conservation Society Craig energy saw
Conservation Society Craig energy saw some other groups where we really been
some other groups where we really been
some other groups where we really been able to fine-tune and hone something
able to fine-tune and hone something
able to fine-tune and hone something these capture techniques and you know
these capture techniques and you know
these capture techniques and you know the two general rules are the safety of
the two general rules are the safety of
the two general rules are the safety of the animal is first and foremost and
the animal is first and foremost and
the animal is first and foremost and then our safety assessing and so in
then our safety assessing and so in
then our safety assessing and so in doing that I you know I’m rely on a lot
doing that I you know I’m rely on a lot
doing that I you know I’m rely on a lot of different experience from just being
of different experience from just being
of different experience from just being out there in the woods from going up to
out there in the woods from going up to
out there in the woods from going up to working with different researchers you
working with different researchers you
working with different researchers you know I got the chance to work with Steve
know I got the chance to work with Steve
know I got the chance to work with Steve um and you know and was able to learn
um and you know and was able to learn
um and you know and was able to learn things from him and so every time you go
things from him and so every time you go
things from him and so every time you go get to work with the different person
get to work with the different person
get to work with the different person different group you pay attention you
different group you pay attention you
different group you pay attention you put those things in your toolbox in your
put those things in your toolbox in your
put those things in your toolbox in your notes and then although it sounds kind
notes and then although it sounds kind
notes and then although it sounds kind of crazy there’s a lot of common sense
of crazy there’s a lot of common sense
of crazy there’s a lot of common sense that goes into it when you approach your
that goes into it when you approach your
that goes into it when you approach your cat now these cats are no different than
cat now these cats are no different than
cat now these cats are no different than people in the sense that they’re going
people in the sense that they’re going
people in the sense that they’re going to tell you where that line is and
to tell you where that line is and
to tell you where that line is and everyone’s lying for people
everyone’s lying for people
everyone’s lying for people m and so those cats there same thing
m and so those cats there same thing
m and so those cats there same thing some have a little more tolerance some
some have a little more tolerance some
some have a little more tolerance some don’t i know you know f 51 is the
don’t i know you know f 51 is the
don’t i know you know f 51 is the cabinet the crew i think of this key
cabinet the crew i think of this key
cabinet the crew i think of this key photograph that was magazine she was
photograph that was magazine she was
photograph that was magazine she was taller she she was willing to tolerate
taller she she was willing to tolerate
taller she she was willing to tolerate us coming in and i’m doing some things
us coming in and i’m doing some things
us coming in and i’m doing some things and some others like f 109 was like yeah
and some others like f 109 was like yeah
and some others like f 109 was like yeah see you guys and so you know reading the
see you guys and so you know reading the
see you guys and so you know reading the body language these got to tell you
body language these got to tell you
body language these got to tell you what’s going on and you respect that and
what’s going on and you respect that and
what’s going on and you respect that and I know Steve mention that it’s you got
I know Steve mention that it’s you got
I know Steve mention that it’s you got to have that respect and if you give me
to have that respect and if you give me
to have that respect and if you give me the respect I you know that’s how we
the respect I you know that’s how we
the respect I you know that’s how we keep the captain and ourselves and
keep the captain and ourselves and
keep the captain and ourselves and everybody out there safe sounds good
everybody out there safe sounds good
everybody out there safe sounds good leili you’re there in Tanzania 10 months
leili you’re there in Tanzania 10 months
leili you’re there in Tanzania 10 months a year um you are in big cat country out
a year um you are in big cat country out
a year um you are in big cat country out there I don’t think you’re behind a
there I don’t think you’re behind a
there I don’t think you’re behind a fence all the time and I don’t think
fence all the time and I don’t think
fence all the time and I don’t think you’re inside all the time either so you
you’re inside all the time either so you
you’re inside all the time either so you and your husband Charles trout and and
and your husband Charles trout and and
and your husband Charles trout and and your young young newest addition what
your young young newest addition what
your young young newest addition what what are the limits what are the lines
what are the limits what are the lines
what are the limits what are the lines for you in doing lion conservation for
for you in doing lion conservation for
for you in doing lion conservation for example in Tanzania well we’re going to
example in Tanzania well we’re going to
example in Tanzania well we’re going to be really careful with our work we do a
be really careful with our work we do a
be really careful with our work we do a lot of different ways of estimating the
lot of different ways of estimating the
lot of different ways of estimating the population of lions some of the ideas
population of lions some of the ideas
population of lions some of the ideas work is putting out camera traps if you
work is putting out camera traps if you
work is putting out camera traps if you can meet the cameras out my addictions
can meet the cameras out my addictions
can meet the cameras out my addictions attacks when we lose five but we also
attacks when we lose five but we also
attacks when we lose five but we also like to track our cats you know where
like to track our cats you know where
like to track our cats you know where they are and where they’re moving so we
they are and where they’re moving so we
they are and where they’re moving so we work with positioning trackers these are
work with positioning trackers these are
work with positioning trackers these are the guys that really have the sense to
the guys that really have the sense to
the guys that really have the sense to the big test they can read the landscape
the big test they can read the landscape
the big test they can read the landscape they can understand where the cats is
they can understand where the cats is
they can understand where the cats is moved and sometimes we’re going on foot
moved and sometimes we’re going on foot
moved and sometimes we’re going on foot with them and you have to be really
with them and you have to be really
with them and you have to be really careful you can supply the lioness in a
careful you can supply the lioness in a
careful you can supply the lioness in a Corral go with there’s a gully or
Corral go with there’s a gully or
Corral go with there’s a gully or ravines and you can get into some scary
ravines and you can get into some scary
ravines and you can get into some scary situations so light foods that you can
situations so light foods that you can
situations so light foods that you can really go to let Big Tex tell you their
really go to let Big Tex tell you their
really go to let Big Tex tell you their limits you don’t want to get too close
limits you don’t want to get too close
limits you don’t want to get too close with them and I certainly don’t want to
with them and I certainly don’t want to
with them and I certainly don’t want to get too close to them with my little
get too close to them with my little
get too close to them with my little girl ki much you going to turn one year
girl ki much you going to turn one year
girl ki much you going to turn one year old and in about six days so we just put
old and in about six days so we just put
old and in about six days so we just put some of the fat but we have to get the
some of the fat but we have to get the
some of the fat but we have to get the information so that we know that our
information so that we know that our
information so that we know that our work is being affected and that were
work is being affected and that were
work is being affected and that were helping increase population of these in
helping increase population of these in
helping increase population of these in dangerous kata forms
dangerous kata forms
dangerous kata forms and and that work that’s being done in
and and that work that’s being done in
and and that work that’s being done in the field is in part supported by
the field is in part supported by
the field is in part supported by national Geographics big cats initiative
national Geographics big cats initiative
national Geographics big cats initiative this being givingtuesday I’d like to
this being givingtuesday I’d like to
this being givingtuesday I’d like to give you guys a little background and
give you guys a little background and
give you guys a little background and what the big cats initiative is the big
what the big cats initiative is the big
what the big cats initiative is the big cats initiative is national Geographics
cats initiative is national Geographics
cats initiative is national Geographics program that supports projects and field
program that supports projects and field
program that supports projects and field work education outreach incentive
work education outreach incentive
work education outreach incentive efforts global public awareness
efforts global public awareness
efforts global public awareness campaigns to save big cats and stop the
campaigns to save big cats and stop the
campaigns to save big cats and stop the declines of their populations worldwide
declines of their populations worldwide
declines of their populations worldwide a few years ago longtime explorers and
a few years ago longtime explorers and
a few years ago longtime explorers and residents with National Geographic Derek
residents with National Geographic Derek
residents with National Geographic Derek and Beverly zubair push National
and Beverly zubair push National
and Beverly zubair push National Geographic to go one step beyond the
Geographic to go one step beyond the
Geographic to go one step beyond the mission of the organization which is
mission of the organization which is
mission of the organization which is inspiring people to care about the
inspiring people to care about the
inspiring people to care about the planet and to actually do something more
planet and to actually do something more
planet and to actually do something more than just reporting and delivering the
than just reporting and delivering the
than just reporting and delivering the messages which is very important and the
messages which is very important and the
messages which is very important and the big cats initiative was formed the big
big cats initiative was formed the big
big cats initiative was formed the big cats initiative is based on sound
cats initiative is based on sound
cats initiative is based on sound science informing good decisions to fund
science informing good decisions to fund
science informing good decisions to fund field-based conservation actions Amy and
field-based conservation actions Amy and
field-based conservation actions Amy and Leigh Leigh who you’re hearing from
Leigh Leigh who you’re hearing from
Leigh Leigh who you’re hearing from today are both grantees multiple time
today are both grantees multiple time
today are both grantees multiple time grantees of the big cats initiative in
grantees of the big cats initiative in
grantees of the big cats initiative in order to halt the decline as quickly as
order to halt the decline as quickly as
order to halt the decline as quickly as possible of big cats in the places where
possible of big cats in the places where
possible of big cats in the places where they are in the three years since the
they are in the three years since the
they are in the three years since the big cats initiative launched the BCI
big cats initiative launched the BCI
big cats initiative launched the BCI which is the cat’s initiative has funded
which is the cat’s initiative has funded
which is the cat’s initiative has funded 43 projects in 18 countries to the tune
43 projects in 18 countries to the tune
43 projects in 18 countries to the tune of nearly 1.3 million dollars and all of
of nearly 1.3 million dollars and all of
of nearly 1.3 million dollars and all of them are field based programs and one of
them are field based programs and one of
them are field based programs and one of the things we set out to do was identify
the things we set out to do was identify
the things we set out to do was identify what are some of the best fastest things
what are some of the best fastest things
what are some of the best fastest things that can be done in order to protect big
that can be done in order to protect big
that can be done in order to protect big cats where they are we have to know
cats where they are we have to know
cats where they are we have to know their status so assessment is important
their status so assessment is important
their status so assessment is important but you know we already know that there
but you know we already know that there
but you know we already know that there are fewer than 3,200 tigers left in the
are fewer than 3,200 tigers left in the
are fewer than 3,200 tigers left in the wild six to eight thousand snow leopards
wild six to eight thousand snow leopards
wild six to eight thousand snow leopards left in the wild somewhere in the
left in the wild somewhere in the
left in the wild somewhere in the neighborhood of 30,000 lions but
neighborhood of 30,000 lions but
neighborhood of 30,000 lions but regardless it’s a ninety percent decline
regardless it’s a ninety percent decline
regardless it’s a ninety percent decline in under a century no more than 10,000
in under a century no more than 10,000
in under a century no more than 10,000 cheetahs left those numbers are
cheetahs left those numbers are
cheetahs left those numbers are staggering enough and that’s what led
staggering enough and that’s what led
staggering enough and that’s what led the shoe barriers and National
the shoe barriers and National
the shoe barriers and National Geographic to launch the big cats
Geographic to launch the big cats
Geographic to launch the big cats initiative to fund grassroots level
initiative to fund grassroots level
initiative to fund grassroots level campaigns and actions to do that a lot
campaigns and actions to do that a lot
campaigns and actions to do that a lot of great questions are now coming in
of great questions are now coming in
of great questions are now coming in they’ve been tweeted they’ve been posted
they’ve been tweeted they’ve been posted
they’ve been tweeted they’ve been posted counted on social media remember it’s
counted on social media remember it’s
counted on social media remember it’s not too late to ask a question please
not too late to ask a question please
not too late to ask a question please post tweet or comment from wherever
post tweet or comment from wherever
post tweet or comment from wherever you’re watching with hashtag big cats
you’re watching with hashtag big cats
you’re watching with hashtag big cats there’s a new question that comes from
there’s a new question that comes from
there’s a new question that comes from celeste leander on facebook that was
celeste leander on facebook that was
celeste leander on facebook that was which species of big cat is most
which species of big cat is most
which species of big cat is most critically endangered steve i think you
critically endangered steve i think you
critically endangered steve i think you spoke to that just now and would you
spoke to that just now and would you
spoke to that just now and would you want to give us some feedback on what
want to give us some feedback on what
want to give us some feedback on what the answer to that question is well the
the answer to that question is well the
the answer to that question is well the most endangered big cat is the tiger
most endangered big cat is the tiger
most endangered big cat is the tiger there’s only 32 maybe only 3000 left in
there’s only 32 maybe only 3000 left in
there’s only 32 maybe only 3000 left in the wild and it’s an incredibly dramatic
the wild and it’s an incredibly dramatic
the wild and it’s an incredibly dramatic decline in tiger populations and it’s at
decline in tiger populations and it’s at
decline in tiger populations and it’s at a critical point right now and that was
a critical point right now and that was
a critical point right now and that was one of the reasons that we had the idea
one of the reasons that we had the idea
one of the reasons that we had the idea to put all my work together 10 years
to put all my work together 10 years
to put all my work together 10 years into the book tigers forever which is
into the book tigers forever which is
into the book tigers forever which is named after Pantera’s tiger program
named after Pantera’s tiger program
named after Pantera’s tiger program where I’m director of media besides my
where I’m director of media besides my
where I’m director of media besides my 20 years working as a photographer at
20 years working as a photographer at
20 years working as a photographer at national geographic magazine and it’s on
national geographic magazine and it’s on
national geographic magazine and it’s on the ground protection that’s number one
the ground protection that’s number one
the ground protection that’s number one and I learned from the scientists I work
and I learned from the scientists I work
and I learned from the scientists I work with that the way you’re going to save
with that the way you’re going to save
with that the way you’re going to save them is to protect their prey first
them is to protect their prey first
them is to protect their prey first protect the protected areas where the
protect the protected areas where the
protect the protected areas where the source populations are I add and if
source populations are I add and if
source populations are I add and if those areas are protected Tigers will
those areas are protected Tigers will
those areas are protected Tigers will take care of themselves but protection
take care of themselves but protection
take care of themselves but protection and good science is the background
and good science is the background
and good science is the background towards saving Tigers and they need you
towards saving Tigers and they need you
towards saving Tigers and they need you no more land and in the in the areas
no more land and in the in the areas
no more land and in the in the areas that they’re in and corridors to move
that they’re in and corridors to move
that they’re in and corridors to move from one area to another and so my goal
from one area to another and so my goal
from one area to another and so my goal right now is to the promotion of the
right now is to the promotion of the
right now is to the promotion of the book is actually promotion of the saving
book is actually promotion of the saving
book is actually promotion of the saving of tigers because the book is not just a
of tigers because the book is not just a
of tigers because the book is not just a bunch of pictures it’s it’s 45 thousand
bunch of pictures it’s it’s 45 thousand
bunch of pictures it’s it’s 45 thousand words and and 68 interviews and 12
words and and 68 interviews and 12
words and and 68 interviews and 12 profiles of the people that I worked
profiles of the people that I worked
profiles of the people that I worked with and we need to save the tiger we
with and we need to save the tiger we
with and we need to save the tiger we can do it thank you Steve I’m Amy you
can do it thank you Steve I’m Amy you
can do it thank you Steve I’m Amy you are a specialist and the reasons that
are a specialist and the reasons that
are a specialist and the reasons that people kill all big cats like lions Amy
people kill all big cats like lions Amy
people kill all big cats like lions Amy dyckman there in Tanzania can you tell
dyckman there in Tanzania can you tell
dyckman there in Tanzania can you tell me what kinds of things have you learned
me what kinds of things have you learned
me what kinds of things have you learned about the reasons why people kill lions
about the reasons why people kill lions
about the reasons why people kill lions and and what sort of things are you
and and what sort of things are you
and and what sort of things are you doing there
doing there
doing there with the ruaha carnivore project to
with the ruaha carnivore project to
with the ruaha carnivore project to prevent the further loss of big cats in
prevent the further loss of big cats in
prevent the further loss of big cats in the places where you are well I think
the places where you are well I think
the places where you are well I think one of the importance of things the
one of the importance of things the
one of the importance of things the people there’s also lots of is a little
people there’s also lots of is a little
people there’s also lots of is a little bit with fairies on areas where the
bit with fairies on areas where the
bit with fairies on areas where the human dominated and way bak got very
human dominated and way bak got very
human dominated and way bak got very poor human communities you can use
poor human communities you can use
poor human communities you can use columns the little people benefited my
columns the little people benefited my
columns the little people benefited my stock and there’s pretty service
stock and there’s pretty service
stock and there’s pretty service benefits and rehearse in those spaces so
benefits and rehearse in those spaces so
benefits and rehearse in those spaces so it’s very simple i think people ought to
it’s very simple i think people ought to
it’s very simple i think people ought to demonize a little communities killing
demonize a little communities killing
demonize a little communities killing species like lions the eagle businesses
species like lions the eagle businesses
species like lions the eagle businesses wasn’t an animal the iminium i stopped
wasn’t an animal the iminium i stopped
wasn’t an animal the iminium i stopped you know destroying all sort of wealth
you know destroying all sort of wealth
you know destroying all sort of wealth and make such the killing of children at
and make such the killing of children at
and make such the killing of children at work so the first performance thing we
work so the first performance thing we
work so the first performance thing we have to do is work the cemeteries did
have to do is work the cemeteries did
have to do is work the cemeteries did and try to sleep sighs their livestock
and try to sleep sighs their livestock
and try to sleep sighs their livestock and that’s important or substance within
and that’s important or substance within
and that’s important or substance within various it is a fitting mass-produces
various it is a fitting mass-produces
various it is a fitting mass-produces pci slots in soma campaign you built the
pci slots in soma campaign you built the
pci slots in soma campaign you built the Burma Campaign you know the true
Burma Campaign you know the true
Burma Campaign you know the true dimension building on that this almost
dimension building on that this almost
dimension building on that this almost as important or more importantly we’ve
as important or more importantly we’ve
as important or more importantly we’ve really got to give local people are
really got to give local people are
really got to give local people are benefit from being at rest so we thought
benefit from being at rest so we thought
benefit from being at rest so we thought the villages they wanted essence in
the villages they wanted essence in
the villages they wanted essence in school some works with National
school some works with National
school some works with National Geographic from the pfister Schools
Geographic from the pfister Schools
Geographic from the pfister Schools program they want invested in health
program they want invested in health
program they want invested in health care exactly else but making sure that
care exactly else but making sure that
care exactly else but making sure that people see a side west benefit from
people see a side west benefit from
people see a side west benefit from concerning test it is up to these
concerning test it is up to these
concerning test it is up to these worthless community I totally agree with
worthless community I totally agree with
worthless community I totally agree with speeds we have to protect the source
speeds we have to protect the source
speeds we have to protect the source core populations but if we or if we
core populations but if we or if we
core populations but if we or if we ignore this human don’t make demands I
ignore this human don’t make demands I
ignore this human don’t make demands I think that it would be a des sell for
think that it would be a des sell for
think that it would be a des sell for lots of the remaining lion populations
lots of the remaining lion populations
lots of the remaining lion populations certainly I think you may be met that’s
certainly I think you may be met that’s
certainly I think you may be met that’s great thank you Amy leili you’re there
great thank you Amy leili you’re there
great thank you Amy leili you’re there in Tanzania a little bit north of where
in Tanzania a little bit north of where
in Tanzania a little bit north of where Amy is right now you know Amy Amy
Amy is right now you know Amy Amy
Amy is right now you know Amy Amy pointed out to us that conflict is a big
pointed out to us that conflict is a big
pointed out to us that conflict is a big cause of mortality in wildlife
cause of mortality in wildlife
cause of mortality in wildlife populations and pointed out some of the
populations and pointed out some of the
populations and pointed out some of the things that can be done to mitigate that
things that can be done to mitigate that
things that can be done to mitigate that can you speak specifically about what
can you speak specifically about what
can you speak specifically about what the African people and Wildlife Fund is
the African people and Wildlife Fund is
the African people and Wildlife Fund is doing there in the tarangire e region
doing there in the tarangire e region
doing there in the tarangire e region thankfully the African people and
thankfully the African people and
thankfully the African people and wildlife funds were leading a four-step
wildlife funds were leading a four-step
wildlife funds were leading a four-step process the big cat conservation starts
process the big cat conservation starts
process the big cat conservation starts with putting out fire conflicts with our
with putting out fire conflicts with our
with putting out fire conflicts with our living walls projects is way of
living walls projects is way of
living walls projects is way of reinforcing people’s livestock corral
reinforcing people’s livestock corral
reinforcing people’s livestock corral and it’s supported very heavily by the
and it’s supported very heavily by the
and it’s supported very heavily by the National Geographic Phil diploma project
National Geographic Phil diploma project
National Geographic Phil diploma project we’ve got 300 of these living walls in
we’ve got 300 of these living walls in
we’ve got 300 of these living walls in place heading towards 350 thanks to
place heading towards 350 thanks to
place heading towards 350 thanks to supporters that are helping National
supporters that are helping National
supporters that are helping National Geographic and a CW Bill Bowman once we
Geographic and a CW Bill Bowman once we
Geographic and a CW Bill Bowman once we put out those fires pumps like well then
put out those fires pumps like well then
put out those fires pumps like well then you have to really help people who look
you have to really help people who look
you have to really help people who look at natural resource management how do we
at natural resource management how do we
at natural resource management how do we manage landscapes for people and big
manage landscapes for people and big
manage landscapes for people and big test we have a large educational program
test we have a large educational program
test we have a large educational program that helps build the skills tools and
that helps build the skills tools and
that helps build the skills tools and the knowledge that people need to manage
the knowledge that people need to manage
the knowledge that people need to manage their resources and then we actually
their resources and then we actually
their resources and then we actually help them implement them so we’re
help them implement them so we’re
help them implement them so we’re working on range land four sections
working on range land four sections
working on range land four sections watershed protection and finally like
watershed protection and finally like
watershed protection and finally like Amy says finding ways for bills
Amy says finding ways for bills
Amy says finding ways for bills conservation incentives how can we build
conservation incentives how can we build
conservation incentives how can we build an economically friendly community on
an economically friendly community on
an economically friendly community on the hot side step for supporting women’s
the hot side step for supporting women’s
the hot side step for supporting women’s microloan initiatives from biometric
microloan initiatives from biometric
microloan initiatives from biometric friendly projects and while supporting
friendly projects and while supporting
friendly projects and while supporting large land conservation projects help
large land conservation projects help
large land conservation projects help communities to conserve their lands is
communities to conserve their lands is
communities to conserve their lands is benefit from it Thank You Leigh Leigh
benefit from it Thank You Leigh Leigh
benefit from it Thank You Leigh Leigh that’s a perfect segue into introducing
that’s a perfect segue into introducing
that’s a perfect segue into introducing the build a boma campaign the big cats
the build a boma campaign the big cats
the build a boma campaign the big cats initiative cause marketing push for
initiative cause marketing push for
initiative cause marketing push for right now is called build a boma if you
right now is called build a boma if you
right now is called build a boma if you go to build a boma org you’ll learn more
go to build a boma org you’ll learn more
go to build a boma org you’ll learn more about how loss of livestock is a major
about how loss of livestock is a major
about how loss of livestock is a major factor in people wanting to retaliate
factor in people wanting to retaliate
factor in people wanting to retaliate and kill big cat specifically lines but
and kill big cat specifically lines but
and kill big cat specifically lines but all sorts of wildlife as you know really
all sorts of wildlife as you know really
all sorts of wildlife as you know really all over the world but we’re focusing
all over the world but we’re focusing
all over the world but we’re focusing right now in kenya and tanzania with
right now in kenya and tanzania with
right now in kenya and tanzania with four of the big cats initiative grantees
four of the big cats initiative grantees
four of the big cats initiative grantees who are fortifying the corrals that keep
who are fortifying the corrals that keep
who are fortifying the corrals that keep these livestock’s safe so that avoids
these livestock’s safe so that avoids
these livestock’s safe so that avoids the conflict in the first place if you
the conflict in the first place if you
the conflict in the first place if you go to build a boma org you’ll learn a
go to build a boma org you’ll learn a
go to build a boma org you’ll learn a lot more about how helping people
lot more about how helping people
lot more about how helping people protect the livestock in their
protect the livestock in their
protect the livestock in their livelihoods actually translates into
livelihoods actually translates into
livelihoods actually translates into more cats in the field education is
more cats in the field education is
more cats in the field education is something that that both Amy and Leigh
something that that both Amy and Leigh
something that that both Amy and Leigh Leigh pointed on as well and Boone I
Leigh pointed on as well and Boone I
Leigh pointed on as well and Boone I think you’ve actually visited a big cats
think you’ve actually visited a big cats
think you’ve actually visited a big cats initiatives
initiatives
initiatives sister school where we have schools in
sister school where we have schools in
sister school where we have schools in the u.s. that are twinned with schools
the u.s. that are twinned with schools
the u.s. that are twinned with schools in big cat range countries and you
in big cat range countries and you
in big cat range countries and you visited at least one of those that I’m
visited at least one of those that I’m
visited at least one of those that I’m aware of could you speak a little bit
aware of could you speak a little bit
aware of could you speak a little bit about that experience in how education
about that experience in how education
about that experience in how education even in America is important for helping
even in America is important for helping
even in America is important for helping to protect big cats worldwide yeah that
to protect big cats worldwide yeah that
to protect big cats worldwide yeah that was actually a really really neat
was actually a really really neat
was actually a really really neat experience to go be parted out with the
experience to go be parted out with the
experience to go be parted out with the sisters colder had a chance to go to a
sisters colder had a chance to go to a
sisters colder had a chance to go to a couple of it’s a great program because
couple of it’s a great program because
couple of it’s a great program because it it’s kind of run by the kids like
it it’s kind of run by the kids like
it it’s kind of run by the kids like that there’s some guidelines set up the
that there’s some guidelines set up the
that there’s some guidelines set up the kids have to participate in fundraisers
kids have to participate in fundraisers
kids have to participate in fundraisers but they have these interactions with
but they have these interactions with
but they have these interactions with the Sister school’s over over in Africa
the Sister school’s over over in Africa
the Sister school’s over over in Africa and different places and get a glimpse
and different places and get a glimpse
and different places and get a glimpse into the lives two other books live over
into the lives two other books live over
into the lives two other books live over down and I’m their wildlife and their
down and I’m their wildlife and their
down and I’m their wildlife and their their landscape friends and their
their landscape friends and their
their landscape friends and their natural resources and so as far as an
natural resources and so as far as an
natural resources and so as far as an educational come from one of the schools
educational come from one of the schools
educational come from one of the schools i went to is in the was in the Bronx
i went to is in the was in the Bronx
i went to is in the was in the Bronx accent in the I mean inner city which
accent in the I mean inner city which
accent in the I mean inner city which you know the African savannah is the
you know the African savannah is the
you know the African savannah is the most boring thing to them and it was so
most boring thing to them and it was so
most boring thing to them and it was so cool to walk in in that school and see
cool to walk in in that school and see
cool to walk in in that school and see the posters they made that the different
the posters they made that the different
the posters they made that the different interactions they had back and forth
interactions they had back and forth
interactions they had back and forth with the kids over there in Africa the
with the kids over there in Africa the
with the kids over there in Africa the little videos they step back and forth
little videos they step back and forth
little videos they step back and forth and and I mean these kids were so
and and I mean these kids were so
and and I mean these kids were so ridiculously excited about big cats I
ridiculously excited about big cats I
ridiculously excited about big cats I mean I i I’ve never felt like a rock
mean I i I’ve never felt like a rock
mean I i I’ve never felt like a rock star when I walked in somewhere I think
star when I walked in somewhere I think
star when I walked in somewhere I think that wanted to talking big cats they
that wanted to talking big cats they
that wanted to talking big cats they wanted what could they do how do we get
wanted what could they do how do we get
wanted what could they do how do we get that I mean it was absolutely incredible
that I mean it was absolutely incredible
that I mean it was absolutely incredible and and they done fundraisers they’ve
and and they done fundraisers they’ve
and and they done fundraisers they’ve done awareness programs in campaigns and
done awareness programs in campaigns and
done awareness programs in campaigns and so it’s an absolutely a great a great
so it’s an absolutely a great a great
so it’s an absolutely a great a great thing to be involved with you know
thing to be involved with you know
thing to be involved with you know because a lot of times I think folks we
because a lot of times I think folks we
because a lot of times I think folks we hear you know I see Steve’s book that I
hear you know I see Steve’s book that I
hear you know I see Steve’s book that I hear it’s like yeah you know you need to
hear it’s like yeah you know you need to
hear it’s like yeah you know you need to save the Tigers and people go good don’t
save the Tigers and people go good don’t
save the Tigers and people go good don’t say that Steve now get on it and we
say that Steve now get on it and we
say that Steve now get on it and we don’t realize that even just sit at home
don’t realize that even just sit at home
don’t realize that even just sit at home even if you’re not the researcher out
even if you’re not the researcher out
even if you’re not the researcher out there in the field there’s ways to be
there in the field there’s ways to be
there in the field there’s ways to be involved I know the big cats initiative
involved I know the big cats initiative
involved I know the big cats initiative is that cause enough for program they’re
is that cause enough for program they’re
is that cause enough for program they’re going to be involved and support to help
going to be involved and support to help
going to be involved and support to help and I zip it closed and I think that I
and I zip it closed and I think that I
and I zip it closed and I think that I see about that the victim
see about that the victim
see about that the victim to do this when people do become
to do this when people do become
to do this when people do become involved financially and monetarily and
involved financially and monetarily and
involved financially and monetarily and they fit puts him up it done overhead it
they fit puts him up it done overhead it
they fit puts him up it done overhead it goes right into the field of these guys
goes right into the field of these guys
goes right into the field of these guys it goes to the things they need to do
it goes to the things they need to do
it goes to the things they need to do and then I think that is so great
and then I think that is so great
and then I think that is so great because he’ll work is tough I mean it
because he’ll work is tough I mean it
because he’ll work is tough I mean it just is it beats people up the boots up
just is it beats people up the boots up
just is it beats people up the boots up equipment and to know that you can get
equipment and to know that you can get
equipment and to know that you can get some equipment and how better in Gotham
some equipment and how better in Gotham
some equipment and how better in Gotham do you work to be more effective I think
do you work to be more effective I think
do you work to be more effective I think great programs all the way around thanks
great programs all the way around thanks
great programs all the way around thanks boon lei Li I’m speaking from the field
boon lei Li I’m speaking from the field
boon lei Li I’m speaking from the field side of how you know kids in America are
side of how you know kids in America are
side of how you know kids in America are learning about in supporting big cats
learning about in supporting big cats
learning about in supporting big cats can you speak very briefly about how I
can you speak very briefly about how I
can you speak very briefly about how I school near you has benefited from the
school near you has benefited from the
school near you has benefited from the cat’s initiative sister school program
cat’s initiative sister school program
cat’s initiative sister school program is a way that kids can get involved well
is a way that kids can get involved well
is a way that kids can get involved well through the sister school program we’ve
through the sister school program we’ve
through the sister school program we’ve been so lucky that our sister school in
been so lucky that our sister school in
been so lucky that our sister school in Philadelphia help to donate a laptop
Philadelphia help to donate a laptop
Philadelphia help to donate a laptop computer solar panels and an inverse so
computer solar panels and an inverse so
computer solar panels and an inverse so that I school I here in Tanzania and the
that I school I here in Tanzania and the
that I school I here in Tanzania and the Masai stuff to get connected because
Masai stuff to get connected because
Masai stuff to get connected because learn more about the big cats online
learn more about the big cats online
learn more about the big cats online we’re working towards a system or the
we’re working towards a system or the
we’re working towards a system or the kids can actually talk to one another
kids can actually talk to one another
kids can actually talk to one another across the across the ocean so we were
across the across the ocean so we were
across the across the ocean so we were so lucky to have that support from big
so lucky to have that support from big
so lucky to have that support from big big fat sister school program fantastic
big fat sister school program fantastic
big fat sister school program fantastic I would like to switch gears and go to
I would like to switch gears and go to
I would like to switch gears and go to some of our questions that are coming in
some of our questions that are coming in
some of our questions that are coming in via social media right now Steve I have
via social media right now Steve I have
via social media right now Steve I have a question from epi ballina from Bombay
a question from epi ballina from Bombay
a question from epi ballina from Bombay nueva vizcaya via Facebook Steve epi
nueva vizcaya via Facebook Steve epi
nueva vizcaya via Facebook Steve epi says thank you for sharing your photos
says thank you for sharing your photos
says thank you for sharing your photos the picture of the Tigers especially the
the picture of the Tigers especially the
the picture of the Tigers especially the mother and cub makes me teary it looks
mother and cub makes me teary it looks
mother and cub makes me teary it looks as if she’s asking to be kept safe from
as if she’s asking to be kept safe from
as if she’s asking to be kept safe from poachers how do you capture such emotion
poachers how do you capture such emotion
poachers how do you capture such emotion I wonder if big cats really feel that
I wonder if big cats really feel that
I wonder if big cats really feel that way Steve what do you think I think this
way Steve what do you think I think this
way Steve what do you think I think this is the picture right there if you can
is the picture right there if you can
is the picture right there if you can see it her friend the cover of the book
see it her friend the cover of the book
see it her friend the cover of the book all mothers are the same he has young
all mothers are the same he has young
all mothers are the same he has young babies and she wants to protect them and
babies and she wants to protect them and
babies and she wants to protect them and it was my job to get the image
it was my job to get the image
it was my job to get the image it took me 28 days to finally get the
it took me 28 days to finally get the
it took me 28 days to finally get the one second where that happened five
one second where that happened five
one second where that happened five frames five seconds and you want to talk
frames five seconds and you want to talk
frames five seconds and you want to talk about Terry I wouldn’t look at the back
about Terry I wouldn’t look at the back
about Terry I wouldn’t look at the back of the camera for about three hours
of the camera for about three hours
of the camera for about three hours because I didn’t get it until like the
because I didn’t get it until like the
because I didn’t get it until like the 24th day and when I looked at the back
24th day and when I looked at the back
24th day and when I looked at the back of the camera it was perfect one frame
of the camera it was perfect one frame
of the camera it was perfect one frame and I cried like a baby and couldn’t
and I cried like a baby and couldn’t
and I cried like a baby and couldn’t stop it’s only happened to me twice in
stop it’s only happened to me twice in
stop it’s only happened to me twice in my life I’ve looked at the back of the
my life I’ve looked at the back of the
my life I’ve looked at the back of the camera one with snow leopards and one
camera one with snow leopards and one
camera one with snow leopards and one was Tigers so all moms feel the same
was Tigers so all moms feel the same
was Tigers so all moms feel the same protecting their young so they will have
protecting their young so they will have
protecting their young so they will have a future in this instance so the Tigers
a future in this instance so the Tigers
a future in this instance so the Tigers will have a future fantastic Steve I’ve
will have a future fantastic Steve I’ve
will have a future fantastic Steve I’ve got to follow up question from chance
got to follow up question from chance
got to follow up question from chance barber via Facebook from Illinois what
barber via Facebook from Illinois what
barber via Facebook from Illinois what were your best and worst experiences
were your best and worst experiences
were your best and worst experiences photographing all of these amazing
photographing all of these amazing
photographing all of these amazing animals Steve well golly best
animals Steve well golly best
animals Steve well golly best experiences they happen all the time you
experiences they happen all the time you
experiences they happen all the time you know you could say well it’s when I got
know you could say well it’s when I got
know you could say well it’s when I got a photograph I’m trying to get like the
a photograph I’m trying to get like the
a photograph I’m trying to get like the one on the cover but you know just being
one on the cover but you know just being
one on the cover but you know just being out in nature is is just so rewarding
out in nature is is just so rewarding
out in nature is is just so rewarding working with wonderful local people that
working with wonderful local people that
working with wonderful local people that you know they have to find a way to
you know they have to find a way to
you know they have to find a way to benefit from the fact that they’re
benefit from the fact that they’re
benefit from the fact that they’re living with predators we want on the
living with predators we want on the
living with predators we want on the face of the earth so great things happen
face of the earth so great things happen
face of the earth so great things happen all the time with every species I’ve
all the time with every species I’ve
all the time with every species I’ve worked with the worst thing that’s ever
worked with the worst thing that’s ever
worked with the worst thing that’s ever happened is always when you almost died
the worst the the worst it’s animal
the worst the the worst it’s animal attacks that ever happened to me are all
attacks that ever happened to me are all
attacks that ever happened to me are all microscopic animals but there was that
microscopic animals but there was that
microscopic animals but there was that Rhino that attacked us when I was on
Rhino that attacked us when I was on
Rhino that attacked us when I was on elephant once in India that scared me to
elephant once in India that scared me to
elephant once in India that scared me to death but uh you know so the best happen
death but uh you know so the best happen
death but uh you know so the best happen constantly and luckily the worst don’t
constantly and luckily the worst don’t
constantly and luckily the worst don’t happen that often but except for the
happen that often but except for the
happen that often but except for the parasites on that note Boone let’s move
parasites on that note Boone let’s move
parasites on that note Boone let’s move over to you I’ve got a couple of
over to you I’ve got a couple of
over to you I’ve got a couple of questions Noah Hirsch on Google+ says
questions Noah Hirsch on Google+ says
questions Noah Hirsch on Google+ says he’s been tracking mountain
he’s been tracking mountain
he’s been tracking mountain lines for three years now and he’s
lines for three years now and he’s
lines for three years now and he’s trying to understand their movement in
trying to understand their movement in
trying to understand their movement in urban city areas and asks how do you
urban city areas and asks how do you
urban city areas and asks how do you know when it becomes too dangerous to
know when it becomes too dangerous to
know when it becomes too dangerous to keep tracking them in terms of your own
keep tracking them in terms of your own
keep tracking them in terms of your own safety we’ve touched on this a bit but
safety we’ve touched on this a bit but
safety we’ve touched on this a bit but it’s a perfect segue into the question
it’s a perfect segue into the question
it’s a perfect segue into the question I’d like you to respond to as well which
I’d like you to respond to as well which
I’d like you to respond to as well which is from Ann Marie core up in Denmark via
is from Ann Marie core up in Denmark via
is from Ann Marie core up in Denmark via Google Google Plus that says what is
Google Google Plus that says what is
Google Google Plus that says what is your view on this idea that humans can
your view on this idea that humans can
your view on this idea that humans can bring up cats raise them themselves
bring up cats raise them themselves
bring up cats raise them themselves either out in the bush or in captivity
either out in the bush or in captivity
either out in the bush or in captivity and essentially befriend these big cats
and essentially befriend these big cats
and essentially befriend these big cats what is what’s your view on that you
what is what’s your view on that you
what is what’s your view on that you know we see Cougars moving into urban
know we see Cougars moving into urban
know we see Cougars moving into urban areas and we also see people wanting to
areas and we also see people wanting to
areas and we also see people wanting to keep big cats as pets within the bush in
keep big cats as pets within the bush in
keep big cats as pets within the bush in the wild how do you see the line being
the wild how do you see the line being
the wild how do you see the line being drawn on that I look at that and that’s
drawn on that I look at that and that’s
drawn on that I look at that and that’s definitely a hot topic right now you
definitely a hot topic right now you
definitely a hot topic right now you know I look at first and foremost for
know I look at first and foremost for
know I look at first and foremost for incredible adaptability of an animal you
incredible adaptability of an animal you
incredible adaptability of an animal you know we come in and change your
know we come in and change your
know we come in and change your environment to habitat edited out and it
environment to habitat edited out and it
environment to habitat edited out and it becomes efficient data it can thrive um
becomes efficient data it can thrive um
becomes efficient data it can thrive um you know always you need to give animals
you know always you need to give animals
you know always you need to give animals their space and be safe about what
their space and be safe about what
their space and be safe about what you’re doing out there you know when we
you’re doing out there you know when we
you’re doing out there you know when we fix the question is part is dealing with
fix the question is part is dealing with
fix the question is part is dealing with tracking the cougar movies are pretty
tracking the cougar movies are pretty
tracking the cougar movies are pretty secretive if you’ve been out they’ve
secretive if you’ve been out they’ve
secretive if you’ve been out they’ve probably seen you you probably haven’t
probably seen you you probably haven’t
probably seen you you probably haven’t seen them and so when you defeat those
seen them and so when you defeat those
seen them and so when you defeat those opportunities to see if that not
opportunities to see if that not
opportunities to see if that not everyone always ask what do i do when i
everyone always ask what do i do when i
everyone always ask what do i do when i see a cougar take a moment enjoy because
see a cougar take a moment enjoy because
see a cougar take a moment enjoy because you’re getting a rare and unique
you’re getting a rare and unique
you’re getting a rare and unique opportunity um you know as far as
opportunity um you know as far as
opportunity um you know as far as interaction when we have caps and bring
interaction when we have caps and bring
interaction when we have caps and bring them into captivity we will have to
them into captivity we will have to
them into captivity we will have to recognize these animals they’re
recognize these animals they’re
recognize these animals they’re hardwired over you know thousands and
hardwired over you know thousands and
hardwired over you know thousands and thousands of years for certain instincts
thousands of years for certain instincts
thousands of years for certain instincts to survive in the wild and and we don’t
to survive in the wild and and we don’t
to survive in the wild and and we don’t just change that because we give them a
just change that because we give them a
just change that because we give them a full of milk or we pedal or things like
full of milk or we pedal or things like
full of milk or we pedal or things like that and um no similar sort of instances
that and um no similar sort of instances
that and um no similar sort of instances here and there where we have captured
here and there where we have captured
here and there where we have captured captains and we looked at down gold out
captains and we looked at down gold out
captains and we looked at down gold out is that good or bad you know there’s one
is that good or bad you know there’s one
is that good or bad you know there’s one with a couple groups that have you know
with a couple groups that have you know
with a couple groups that have you know some rescue facilities for really for
some rescue facilities for really for
some rescue facilities for really for that purpose right there if someone’s
that purpose right there if someone’s
that purpose right there if someone’s had a calf they raise it as a kitten
had a calf they raise it as a kitten
had a calf they raise it as a kitten they got it was Judy got too big to
they got it was Judy got too big to
they got it was Judy got too big to handle and so they had to do something
handle and so they had to do something
handle and so they had to do something with the submit your feet into the
with the submit your feet into the
with the submit your feet into the facilities there’s some opportunities
facilities there’s some opportunities
facilities there’s some opportunities there for ambassador animals I think you
there for ambassador animals I think you
there for ambassador animals I think you know for people to see things up close
know for people to see things up close
know for people to see things up close excited about what these are animals are
excited about what these are animals are
excited about what these are animals are and what they can do and some education
and what they can do and some education
and what they can do and some education opportunities but certainly the more we
opportunities but certainly the more we
opportunities but certainly the more we can keep in the wild being wild animals
can keep in the wild being wild animals
can keep in the wild being wild animals doing their thing that’s just the
doing their thing that’s just the
doing their thing that’s just the baddest time if we have those
baddest time if we have those
baddest time if we have those unfortunate circumstances where things
unfortunate circumstances where things
unfortunate circumstances where things change if we can get the greater good
change if we can get the greater good
change if we can get the greater good out of it I think that’s important too
out of it I think that’s important too
out of it I think that’s important too but certainly it’s not something we want
but certainly it’s not something we want
but certainly it’s not something we want to promote that you know people go and
to promote that you know people go and
to promote that you know people go and get baby tigers and try and raising
get baby tigers and try and raising
get baby tigers and try and raising because they’re so beautiful and they’re
because they’re so beautiful and they’re
because they’re so beautiful and they’re dangerous so you raised your own and I
dangerous so you raised your own and I
dangerous so you raised your own and I heaven is probably a disaster so again
heaven is probably a disaster so again
heaven is probably a disaster so again it comes through it back to common sense
it comes through it back to common sense
it comes through it back to common sense I don’t let your emotions get caught a
I don’t let your emotions get caught a
I don’t let your emotions get caught a fish games and useful common sense about
fish games and useful common sense about
fish games and useful common sense about it and we’ll be okay thanks Ben another
it and we’ll be okay thanks Ben another
it and we’ll be okay thanks Ben another question we got here from Rick in the US
question we got here from Rick in the US
question we got here from Rick in the US via ng via National Geographic is what
via ng via National Geographic is what
via ng via National Geographic is what can the average person do to help and to
can the average person do to help and to
can the average person do to help and to that end I think we’ve heard a lot of
that end I think we’ve heard a lot of
that end I think we’ve heard a lot of wonderful input today from from all of
wonderful input today from from all of
wonderful input today from from all of our participants in here Boone in the
our participants in here Boone in the
our participants in here Boone in the States Steve there in New York on his
States Steve there in New York on his
States Steve there in New York on his way to India both Amy and Amy dyckman
way to India both Amy and Amy dyckman
way to India both Amy and Amy dyckman and Leigh Leigh Lichtenfeld there in the
and Leigh Leigh Lichtenfeld there in the
and Leigh Leigh Lichtenfeld there in the field in Tanzania about the things that
field in Tanzania about the things that
field in Tanzania about the things that can be done not only raising awareness
can be done not only raising awareness
can be done not only raising awareness and educating each other but also
and educating each other but also
and educating each other but also supporting the idea of big cat
supporting the idea of big cat
supporting the idea of big cat conservation in any way possible
conservation in any way possible
conservation in any way possible spreading the word on this givingtuesday
spreading the word on this givingtuesday
spreading the word on this givingtuesday you can support build obama by going to
you can support build obama by going to
you can support build obama by going to build a boma org bui LD a bo ma org and
build a boma org bui LD a bo ma org and
build a boma org bui LD a bo ma org and learn more about how we can protect big
learn more about how we can protect big
learn more about how we can protect big cats through that very cost effective
cats through that very cost effective
cats through that very cost effective way or you can go to cause an uproar at
way or you can go to cause an uproar at
way or you can go to cause an uproar at work which is the big cats initiatives
work which is the big cats initiatives
work which is the big cats initiatives home on the web causing up for org and
home on the web causing up for org and
home on the web causing up for org and learn more about the big cats initiative
learn more about the big cats initiative
learn more about the big cats initiative and all that’s being done in the field
and all that’s being done in the field
and all that’s being done in the field by all of our wonderful partners and
by all of our wonderful partners and
by all of our wonderful partners and grantees thank you so much for being
grantees thank you so much for being
grantees thank you so much for being here on this givingtuesday thank you for
here on this givingtuesday thank you for
here on this givingtuesday thank you for joining us today we’ll hope you’ll
joining us today we’ll hope you’ll
joining us today we’ll hope you’ll support the work of all of these great
support the work of all of these great
support the work of all of these great people we’ve heard from and do what you
people we’ve heard from and do what you
people we’ve heard from and do what you can as well to save the world’s
can as well to save the world’s
can as well to save the world’s remaining big cats thank you very much
remaining big cats thank you very much
remaining big cats thank you very much thank you thank you thank you so much
thank you thank you thank you so much
thank you thank you thank you so much from Tanzania
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