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explorers have the joy of investigating

explorers have the joy of investigating the animals and plants and people that

the animals and plants and people that

the animals and plants and people that that occur in places that are far

that occur in places that are far

that occur in places that are far removed from where we live for example

removed from where we live for example

removed from where we live for example in the tops of trees and distance

in the tops of trees and distance

in the tops of trees and distance rainforests but the problems that

rainforests but the problems that

rainforests but the problems that rainforests are facing means also that

rainforests are facing means also that

rainforests are facing means also that explorers have to cut through the noise

explorers have to cut through the noise

explorers have to cut through the noise in order to communicate what they learn

in order to communicate what they learn

in order to communicate what they learn in these far places to those members of

in these far places to those members of

in these far places to those members of society who may not necessarily

society who may not necessarily

society who may not necessarily understand the beauty and importance of

understand the beauty and importance of

understand the beauty and importance of them who may not necessarily have active

them who may not necessarily have active

them who may not necessarily have active subscriptions to the National Geographic

subscriptions to the National Geographic

subscriptions to the National Geographic magazine

magazine

magazine I believe that communication to the

I believe that communication to the

I believe that communication to the environmentally unaware is one of our

environmentally unaware is one of our

environmentally unaware is one of our big challenges to solve environmental

big challenges to solve environmental

big challenges to solve environmental problems big problems such as forest

problems big problems such as forest

problems big problems such as forest fragmentation global climate change

fragmentation global climate change

fragmentation global climate change species extinctions how can we foster

species extinctions how can we foster

species extinctions how can we foster change in people who may not wish to

change in people who may not wish to

change in people who may not wish to change or not even be aware that there

change or not even be aware that there

change or not even be aware that there is a need to change metaphorically I

is a need to change metaphorically I

is a need to change metaphorically I think there’s one approach to do this

think there’s one approach to do this

think there’s one approach to do this that we can move the focus from the

that we can move the focus from the

that we can move the focus from the immovable trunks of our big problems so

immovable trunks of our big problems so

immovable trunks of our big problems so those parts of this metaphorical tree

those parts of this metaphorical tree

those parts of this metaphorical tree that do move that is in this case the

that do move that is in this case the

that do move that is in this case the leaves and twigs of a tree and to

leaves and twigs of a tree and to

leaves and twigs of a tree and to investigate this I turn trees into

investigate this I turn trees into

investigate this I turn trees into artists what I did was attach little

artists what I did was attach little

artists what I did was attach little paintbrushes on a breezy day to the tips

paintbrushes on a breezy day to the tips

paintbrushes on a breezy day to the tips of trees held up a piece of drawing

of trees held up a piece of drawing

of trees held up a piece of drawing paper and allowed the tree to make art

paper and allowed the tree to make art

paper and allowed the tree to make art for two minutes

for two minutes

for two minutes this was the resulting piece of art that

this was the resulting piece of art that

this was the resulting piece of art that the tree made being a scientist I want

the tree made being a scientist I want

the tree made being a scientist I want to know how far how much these trees

to know how far how much these trees

to know how far how much these trees could move collectively and so I simply

could move collectively and so I simply

could move collectively and so I simply measured the segments of the painted

measured the segments of the painted

measured the segments of the painted tree for two minutes added up the

tree for two minutes added up the

tree for two minutes added up the segments multiplied the number of

segments multiplied the number of

segments multiplied the number of minutes by number of minutes per year

minutes by number of minutes per year

minutes by number of minutes per year the number of twigs per branch the

the number of twigs per branch the

the number of twigs per branch the number of branches per tree and came up

number of branches per tree and came up

number of branches per tree and came up with an accurate figure of how far

with an accurate figure of how far

with an accurate figure of how far collectively a single tree could move in

collectively a single tree could move in

collectively a single tree could move in a year I’m sure you have a guess

since I only have 15 minutes I’ll tell

since I only have 15 minutes I’ll tell you the answer which is 186,000 540

you the answer which is 186,000 540

you the answer which is 186,000 540 miles per year which is equivalent to 7

miles per year which is equivalent to 7

miles per year which is equivalent to 7 times around planet Earth

times around planet Earth

times around planet Earth so using this metaphor of a tree that

so using this metaphor of a tree that

so using this metaphor of a tree that seems a movable and yet isn’t is moving

seems a movable and yet isn’t is moving

seems a movable and yet isn’t is moving very fast and very far I would like to

very fast and very far I would like to

very fast and very far I would like to share with you today what I think of in

share with you today what I think of in

share with you today what I think of in terms of three ways that we explorers

terms of three ways that we explorers

terms of three ways that we explorers might need to promote movement in terms

might need to promote movement in terms

might need to promote movement in terms of moving these environmental problems

of moving these environmental problems

of moving these environmental problems that I spoke about one of them is moving

that I spoke about one of them is moving

that I spoke about one of them is moving from the unknown to the known the second

from the unknown to the known the second

from the unknown to the known the second is moving information from the exclusive

is moving information from the exclusive

is moving information from the exclusive to the inclusive and finally moving from

to the inclusive and finally moving from

to the inclusive and finally moving from despair to hope first from moving from

despair to hope first from moving from

despair to hope first from moving from the unknown to the known one of the

the unknown to the known one of the

the unknown to the known one of the things that I’ve spent my scientific

things that I’ve spent my scientific

things that I’ve spent my scientific life on is exploring a very unknown

life on is exploring a very unknown

life on is exploring a very unknown place the rainforest canopy of

place the rainforest canopy of

place the rainforest canopy of Monteverde Costa Rica this is the the

Monteverde Costa Rica this is the the

Monteverde Costa Rica this is the the rainforest canopy just thirty years ago

rainforest canopy just thirty years ago

rainforest canopy just thirty years ago was known as the last biotic frontier

was known as the last biotic frontier

was known as the last biotic frontier but with a variety of mountain climbing

but with a variety of mountain climbing

but with a variety of mountain climbing techniques we have been able to know the

techniques we have been able to know the

techniques we have been able to know the unknown very well and I thought the best

unknown very well and I thought the best

unknown very well and I thought the best way to show this to you would be to show

way to show this to you would be to show

way to show this to you would be to show you a small clip of a piece of a

you a small clip of a piece of a

you a small clip of a piece of a National Geographic film called heroes

National Geographic film called heroes

National Geographic film called heroes of the high frontier which illustrates

of the high frontier which illustrates

of the high frontier which illustrates to you how I get from the unknown to the

to you how I get from the unknown to the

to you how I get from the unknown to the known

so when I’ve gotten to the canopy what

so when I’ve gotten to the canopy what I’ve learned is that there are a number

I’ve learned is that there are a number

I’ve learned is that there are a number of things that are revealed that the

of things that are revealed that the

of things that are revealed that the caballo de are very diverse and that

caballo de are very diverse and that

caballo de are very diverse and that they perform extremely important

they perform extremely important

they perform extremely important ecological roles they enhance the water

ecological roles they enhance the water

ecological roles they enhance the water and nutrient cycles of the forest as a

and nutrient cycles of the forest as a

and nutrient cycles of the forest as a whole the canopy plants provide food and

whole the canopy plants provide food and

whole the canopy plants provide food and water for the arboreal mammals and birds

water for the arboreal mammals and birds

water for the arboreal mammals and birds that live up there for their whole lives

that live up there for their whole lives

that live up there for their whole lives but there are other things that I see in

but there are other things that I see in

but there are other things that I see in the forest canopy that I’ve learned one

the forest canopy that I’ve learned one

the forest canopy that I’ve learned one is that we see not only ecological

is that we see not only ecological

is that we see not only ecological wholeness but we also see human

wholeness but we also see human

wholeness but we also see human disturbances and the effects of those of

disturbances and the effects of those of

disturbances and the effects of those of mining of conversion from forests to

mining of conversion from forests to

mining of conversion from forests to agricultural use of invasive species in

agricultural use of invasive species in

agricultural use of invasive species in addition what I have observed is this

addition what I have observed is this

addition what I have observed is this increasing distance of people from trees

increasing distance of people from trees

increasing distance of people from trees this non knowledge that trees are

this non knowledge that trees are

this non knowledge that trees are important to all of the things that we

important to all of the things that we

important to all of the things that we do and so in response to this

do and so in response to this

do and so in response to this understanding I started a little

understanding I started a little

understanding I started a little nonprofit called the international

nonprofit called the international

nonprofit called the international canopy network we canopy researchers got

canopy network we canopy researchers got

canopy network we canopy researchers got together and began publishing papers in

together and began publishing papers in

together and began publishing papers in the popular press consulting to the

the popular press consulting to the

the popular press consulting to the media and so forth but very soon I

media and so forth but very soon I

media and so forth but very soon I realized that I was really preaching to

realized that I was really preaching to

realized that I was really preaching to the choir these products of my publicity

the choir these products of my publicity

the choir these products of my publicity we’re really getting to people who were

we’re really getting to people who were

we’re really getting to people who were already aware of the importance and the

already aware of the importance and the

already aware of the importance and the beauty of canopy organisms so I began to

beauty of canopy organisms so I began to

beauty of canopy organisms so I began to ask how I can get outside that choir how

ask how I can get outside that choir how

ask how I can get outside that choir how can I bring my messages to people who

can I bring my messages to people who

can I bring my messages to people who might not already be convinced of the

might not already be convinced of the

might not already be convinced of the importance and I took then my movement

importance and I took then my movement

importance and I took then my movement from exclusive knowledge to inclusive

from exclusive knowledge to inclusive

from exclusive knowledge to inclusive knowledge and I took a clue from the

knowledge and I took a clue from the

knowledge and I took a clue from the fact that trees have a peculiar

fact that trees have a peculiar

fact that trees have a peculiar structure that each twig is connected to

structure that each twig is connected to

structure that each twig is connected to another twig each branch to another

another twig each branch to another

another twig each branch to another branch and I realized that perhaps what

branch and I realized that perhaps what

branch and I realized that perhaps what I could explore is the connection of the

I could explore is the connection of the

I could explore is the connection of the ecological values of trees which I just

ecological values of trees which I just

ecological values of trees which I just told you about to other societal values

told you about to other societal values

told you about to other societal values that already exist recreational values

that already exist recreational values

that already exist recreational values aesthetic values spiritual values and

aesthetic values spiritual values and

aesthetic values spiritual values and social justice values and I’ll go

social justice values and I’ll go

social justice values and I’ll go through an example of each of the

through an example of each of the

through an example of each of the projects that we’ve worked on in order

projects that we’ve worked on in order

projects that we’ve worked on in order to connect these ecological values with

to connect these ecological values with

to connect these ecological values with society I’ll start with recreational

society I’ll start with recreational

society I’ll start with recreational values the toys and games that we play

values the toys and games that we play

values the toys and games that we play with and of course there was an easy

with and of course there was an easy

with and of course there was an easy shot to say well let’s just make treetop

shot to say well let’s just make treetop

shot to say well let’s just make treetop Barbie after all

Barbie after all

Barbie after all girls are entranced with her what was

girls are entranced with her what was

girls are entranced with her what was really key here after we approached

really key here after we approached

really key here after we approached Mattel and didn’t get much of a positive

Mattel and didn’t get much of a positive

Mattel and didn’t get much of a positive response I really don’t understand why

response I really don’t understand why

response I really don’t understand why so we began making treetops Barbies

so we began making treetops Barbies

so we began making treetops Barbies ourselves going to Goodwill’s buying

ourselves going to Goodwill’s buying

ourselves going to Goodwill’s buying used Barbies and dressing her in these

used Barbies and dressing her in these

used Barbies and dressing her in these little clothes

little clothes

little clothes we also made this little booklet that

we also made this little booklet that

we also made this little booklet that has information about the canopy plants

has information about the canopy plants

has information about the canopy plants of the temperate and tropical

of the temperate and tropical

of the temperate and tropical rainforests we’re now working on ground

rainforests we’re now working on ground

rainforests we’re now working on ground support Ken but it’s not as good as

support Ken but it’s not as good as

support Ken but it’s not as good as Stella so in terms of aesthetic values

Stella so in terms of aesthetic values

Stella so in terms of aesthetic values the power of science combined with the

the power of science combined with the

the power of science combined with the power of art is something that I think

power of art is something that I think

power of art is something that I think is very effective in terms of cutting

is very effective in terms of cutting

is very effective in terms of cutting through the noise to communicate with

through the noise to communicate with

through the noise to communicate with the environmentally unaware and with the

the environmentally unaware and with the

the environmentally unaware and with the support of a conservation trust grant

support of a conservation trust grant

support of a conservation trust grant and the guidance of John Francis who

and the guidance of John Francis who

and the guidance of John Francis who awarded that I started putting together

awarded that I started putting together

awarded that I started putting together what I call canopy confluences where I

what I call canopy confluences where I

what I call canopy confluences where I invite and then become inclusive with

invite and then become inclusive with

invite and then become inclusive with scientists artists singers opera singers

scientists artists singers opera singers

scientists artists singers opera singers dancers rap singers and forest

dancers rap singers and forest

dancers rap singers and forest ecologists we spend a week in the forest

ecologists we spend a week in the forest

ecologists we spend a week in the forest together climbing trees making

together climbing trees making

together climbing trees making observations and communicating what we

observations and communicating what we

observations and communicating what we collectively learned about the forest

collectively learned about the forest

collectively learned about the forest canopy this has resulted in moss

canopy this has resulted in moss

canopy this has resulted in moss collections and modern dances and

collections and modern dances and

collections and modern dances and artwork and in sculpture but to me

artwork and in sculpture but to me

artwork and in sculpture but to me perhaps the most important result was

perhaps the most important result was

perhaps the most important result was learning that I could engage rap singers

learning that I could engage rap singers

learning that I could engage rap singers to engage urban youth at risk urban

to engage urban youth at risk urban

to engage urban youth at risk urban youth in terms of understanding the

youth in terms of understanding the

youth in terms of understanding the importance of trees

importance of trees

importance of trees I hired a rap singer named caution we

I hired a rap singer named caution we

I hired a rap singer named caution we brought together 40 at-risk kids from

brought together 40 at-risk kids from

brought together 40 at-risk kids from Tacoma Washington we spent five days at

Tacoma Washington we spent five days at

Tacoma Washington we spent five days at the college campus where I taught and in

the college campus where I taught and in

the college campus where I taught and in the afternoons we adjourn to the music

the afternoons we adjourn to the music

the afternoons we adjourn to the music the music studios were the kids

the music studios were the kids

the music studios were the kids themselves then translated what they had

themselves then translated what they had

themselves then translated what they had experienced in the forest with the rap

experienced in the forest with the rap

experienced in the forest with the rap singer – making their own rap songs

singer – making their own rap songs

singer – making their own rap songs their own hip-hop songs and their own

their own hip-hop songs and their own

their own hip-hop songs and their own spoken word poetry another application

spoken word poetry another application

spoken word poetry another application of aesthetics of course is fashion very

of aesthetics of course is fashion very

of aesthetics of course is fashion very powerful business in terms of people’s

powerful business in terms of people’s

powerful business in terms of people’s self image and in terms of the amount of

self image and in terms of the amount of

self image and in terms of the amount of money that people spend on clothes I’m

money that people spend on clothes I’m

money that people spend on clothes I’m working now with a fashion designer in

working now with a fashion designer in

working now with a fashion designer in New York City to create a line of

New York City to create a line of

New York City to create a line of clothes called field guide in which we

clothes called field guide in which we

clothes called field guide in which we take an image from the forest canopy

take an image from the forest canopy

take an image from the forest canopy this is a piper plant piper

this is a piper plant piper

this is a piper plant piper Arita m– it grows in the canopy it’s in

Arita m– it grows in the canopy it’s in

Arita m– it grows in the canopy it’s in the same plant family as black pepper

the same plant family as black pepper

the same plant family as black pepper that you put on your scrambled eggs this

that you put on your scrambled eggs this

that you put on your scrambled eggs this morning we make little hang tags that go

morning we make little hang tags that go

morning we make little hang tags that go along with this so that the person who

along with this so that the person who

along with this so that the person who buys it will have that information and

buys it will have that information and

buys it will have that information and so when I first

so when I first

so when I first might go to Starbucks and I’m in line

might go to Starbucks and I’m in line

might go to Starbucks and I’m in line and Brooke sees me just Nalini nice

and Brooke sees me just Nalini nice

and Brooke sees me just Nalini nice jacket then I can tell her well this is

jacket then I can tell her well this is

jacket then I can tell her well this is Piper Eitam it grows on the Monteverdi

Piper Eitam it grows on the Monteverdi

Piper Eitam it grows on the Monteverdi forest clan lady it’s related to the

forest clan lady it’s related to the

forest clan lady it’s related to the black pepper and it’s an endangered

black pepper and it’s an endangered

black pepper and it’s an endangered ecosystem thereby getting the message to

ecosystem thereby getting the message to

ecosystem thereby getting the message to people again who might cherish clothes

people again who might cherish clothes

people again who might cherish clothes the applied aesthetics of clothes and

the applied aesthetics of clothes and

the applied aesthetics of clothes and fashion where they might never step foot

fashion where they might never step foot

fashion where they might never step foot in a tropical rainforest spiritual

in a tropical rainforest spiritual

in a tropical rainforest spiritual values are very pervasive about 80% of

values are very pervasive about 80% of

values are very pervasive about 80% of the people on this planet consider

the people on this planet consider

the people on this planet consider themselves religious or spiritual in

themselves religious or spiritual in

themselves religious or spiritual in nature and my technique for doing this

nature and my technique for doing this

nature and my technique for doing this for exploring the connection between the

for exploring the connection between the

for exploring the connection between the ecological values of trees with those of

ecological values of trees with those of

ecological values of trees with those of spiritual and religious people was to

spiritual and religious people was to

spiritual and religious people was to start reading and taking notes on the

start reading and taking notes on the

start reading and taking notes on the religious texts of all of the world

religious texts of all of the world

religious texts of all of the world religions to find out how trees and

religions to find out how trees and

religions to find out how trees and forests are described in the holy

forests are described in the holy

forests are described in the holy scriptures for example in the Old

scriptures for example in the Old

scriptures for example in the Old Testament I ended up downloading that

Testament I ended up downloading that

Testament I ended up downloading that from the from the web doing a search for

from the from the web doing a search for

from the from the web doing a search for the word tree in forest and finding that

the word tree in forest and finding that

the word tree in forest and finding that there were 328 references to the words

there were 328 references to the words

there were 328 references to the words tree and forests all of which relate to

tree and forests all of which relate to

tree and forests all of which relate to important cultural and religious values

important cultural and religious values

important cultural and religious values ornamentation for temples practical use

ornamentation for temples practical use

ornamentation for temples practical use location descriptions and so forth I did

location descriptions and so forth I did

location descriptions and so forth I did the same thing with a Koran with a

the same thing with a Koran with a

the same thing with a Koran with a Talmud with Buddhist writings in the

Talmud with Buddhist writings in the

Talmud with Buddhist writings in the Bhagavad Gita and it was able then to

Bhagavad Gita and it was able then to

Bhagavad Gita and it was able then to put together a number of sermons that

put together a number of sermons that

put together a number of sermons that I’ve taken to churches and temples and

I’ve taken to churches and temples and

I’ve taken to churches and temples and synagogues to provide evidence of the

synagogues to provide evidence of the

synagogues to provide evidence of the importance of trees growing not on my

importance of trees growing not on my

importance of trees growing not on my ecological values but rather the words

ecological values but rather the words

ecological values but rather the words of the Holy Scriptures of the people in

of the Holy Scriptures of the people in

of the Holy Scriptures of the people in the congregation themselves another

the congregation themselves another

the congregation themselves another thing that we’re doing is mapping trees

thing that we’re doing is mapping trees

thing that we’re doing is mapping trees and churchyards where we go to a

and churchyards where we go to a

and churchyards where we go to a churchyard we offer to map and document

churchyard we offer to map and document

churchyard we offer to map and document all of the trees on the sacred ground of

all of the trees on the sacred ground of

all of the trees on the sacred ground of the churchyard to remind people that

the churchyard to remind people that

the churchyard to remind people that they are protecting not only the nave

they are protecting not only the nave

they are protecting not only the nave and the Holy Scriptures and the pews and

and the Holy Scriptures and the pews and

and the Holy Scriptures and the pews and the pulpit but also the fact that the

the pulpit but also the fact that the

the pulpit but also the fact that the trees and the biota in their own

trees and the biota in their own

trees and the biota in their own churchyards are deserving of mindfulness

churchyards are deserving of mindfulness

churchyards are deserving of mindfulness and of stewardship and of understanding

and of stewardship and of understanding

and of stewardship and of understanding the last value all talked about is the

the last value all talked about is the

the last value all talked about is the value of social justice values basically

value of social justice values basically

value of social justice values basically when you think of the prisons in our

when you think of the prisons in our

when you think of the prisons in our country there are 2.3 million people who

country there are 2.3 million people who

country there are 2.3 million people who are incarcerated these people are kept

are incarcerated these people are kept

are incarcerated these people are kept away from nature as one of the

away from nature as one of the

away from nature as one of the consequences of their actions

consequences of their actions

consequences of their actions and that is something that I myself can

and that is something that I myself can

and that is something that I myself can hardly imagine but I thought that they

hardly imagine but I thought that they

hardly imagine but I thought that they might be great candidates for needing to

might be great candidates for needing to

might be great candidates for needing to learn about

learn about

learn about the importance of trees and forests my

the importance of trees and forests my

the importance of trees and forests my approach to this was to involve them

approach to this was to involve them

approach to this was to involve them with a ecological problem in the Pacific

with a ecological problem in the Pacific

with a ecological problem in the Pacific Northwest there’s a great deal of

Northwest there’s a great deal of

Northwest there’s a great deal of harvesting of mosses and lichens for the

harvesting of mosses and lichens for the

harvesting of mosses and lichens for the horticultural trade which is expanding

horticultural trade which is expanding

horticultural trade which is expanding my research has shown that these mosses

my research has shown that these mosses

my research has shown that these mosses take two to three decades to regrow and

take two to three decades to regrow and

take two to three decades to regrow and therefore it is not a sustainable

therefore it is not a sustainable

therefore it is not a sustainable practice and so I needed to engage some

practice and so I needed to engage some

practice and so I needed to engage some people who could help me learn how to

people who could help me learn how to

people who could help me learn how to farm mosses to reduce the collection of

farm mosses to reduce the collection of

farm mosses to reduce the collection of mosses from the wild it seems to me also

mosses from the wild it seems to me also

mosses from the wild it seems to me also that perhaps prisoners would be the best

that perhaps prisoners would be the best

that perhaps prisoners would be the best candidates for this they have a lot of

candidates for this they have a lot of

candidates for this they have a lot of time they have a lot of space they don’t

time they have a lot of space they don’t

time they have a lot of space they don’t need sharp tools to work with mosses and

need sharp tools to work with mosses and

need sharp tools to work with mosses and that’s exactly what happened I went to a

that’s exactly what happened I went to a

that’s exactly what happened I went to a minimum-security prison just south of

minimum-security prison just south of

minimum-security prison just south of Olympia Washington where I lived and I

Olympia Washington where I lived and I

Olympia Washington where I lived and I was able after going through two or

was able after going through two or

was able after going through two or three prisons found that in fact one of

three prisons found that in fact one of

three prisons found that in fact one of the superintendent’s was very

the superintendent’s was very

the superintendent’s was very sympathetic to this I was allowed to

sympathetic to this I was allowed to

sympathetic to this I was allowed to bring my mosses together we developed

bring my mosses together we developed

bring my mosses together we developed together with the inmates the study

together with the inmates the study

together with the inmates the study design and the the research itself we

design and the the research itself we

design and the the research itself we ended up publishing a number of

ended up publishing a number of

ended up publishing a number of scientific papers with the inmates as

scientific papers with the inmates as

scientific papers with the inmates as co-authors this was so successful in

co-authors this was so successful in

co-authors this was so successful in terms of the prisoners myself as a

terms of the prisoners myself as a

terms of the prisoners myself as a scientist and the prison administrators

scientist and the prison administrators

scientist and the prison administrators that I was asked to start a science

that I was asked to start a science

that I was asked to start a science lecture series and I did and I began

lecture series and I did and I began

lecture series and I did and I began bringing in other scientists

bringing in other scientists

bringing in other scientists sustainability experts these lectures

sustainability experts these lectures

sustainability experts these lectures then began inspiring the superintendent

then began inspiring the superintendent

then began inspiring the superintendent and the inmates themselves to start

and the inmates themselves to start

and the inmates themselves to start putting in organic Gardens vermiculture

putting in organic Gardens vermiculture

putting in organic Gardens vermiculture beekeeping water catchment and that led

beekeeping water catchment and that led

beekeeping water catchment and that led them to working with conservation groups

them to working with conservation groups

them to working with conservation groups to start having the inmates raise

to start having the inmates raise

to start having the inmates raise endangered plants for restoration the

endangered plants for restoration the

endangered plants for restoration the endangered Oregon spotted frog and the

endangered Oregon spotted frog and the

endangered Oregon spotted frog and the Taylor Checkerspot butterfly this

Taylor Checkerspot butterfly this

Taylor Checkerspot butterfly this program the sustainability and prisons

program the sustainability and prisons

program the sustainability and prisons project has now spread to ten state

project has now spread to ten state

project has now spread to ten state prisons in Washington State and we are

prisons in Washington State and we are

prisons in Washington State and we are now moving towards a nationwide effort

now moving towards a nationwide effort

now moving towards a nationwide effort to bring this program to other states

to bring this program to other states

to bring this program to other states and other universities we have a

and other universities we have a

and other universities we have a multitude of partners agencies NGOs and

multitude of partners agencies NGOs and

multitude of partners agencies NGOs and universities as well as corrections

universities as well as corrections

universities as well as corrections groups and we recently had a National

groups and we recently had a National

groups and we recently had a National Science foundation-funded conference to

Science foundation-funded conference to

Science foundation-funded conference to bring together people from ten different

bring together people from ten different

bring together people from ten different states to think about launching their

states to think about launching their

states to think about launching their own sustainability in prisons projects

own sustainability in prisons projects

own sustainability in prisons projects the last piece I’d like to talk about is

the last piece I’d like to talk about is

the last piece I’d like to talk about is the movement from despair to hope and it

the movement from despair to hope and it

the movement from despair to hope and it was in the prisons I began to feel that

was in the prisons I began to feel that

was in the prisons I began to feel that I was really in the pits of despair

I was really in the pits of despair

I was really in the pits of despair looking at what some of the prisoners

looking at what some of the prisoners

looking at what some of the prisoners have to deal with in their own lives we

have to deal with in their own lives we

have to deal with in their own lives we didn’t have access to all of the prisons

didn’t have access to all of the prisons

didn’t have access to all of the prisons and all of the prisoners in these

and all of the prisoners in these

and all of the prisoners in these projects because some of these prisoners

projects because some of these prisoners

projects because some of these prisoners are kept in what is called Supermax or

are kept in what is called Supermax or

are kept in what is called Supermax or segregated units where because of the

segregated units where because of the

segregated units where because of the violence of their crimes or the nature

violence of their crimes or the nature

violence of their crimes or the nature of their crimes they’re kept away in

of their crimes they’re kept away in

of their crimes they’re kept away in solitary confinement and small-scaled

solitary confinement and small-scaled

solitary confinement and small-scaled cells for 23 hours a day one hour a day

cells for 23 hours a day one hour a day

cells for 23 hours a day one hour a day they’re allowed to go out to what is

they’re allowed to go out to what is

they’re allowed to go out to what is called recreation yards they’re very

called recreation yards they’re very

called recreation yards they’re very bare and very sterile my idea was to

bare and very sterile my idea was to

bare and very sterile my idea was to bring nature imagery to these inmates we

bring nature imagery to these inmates we

bring nature imagery to these inmates we couldn’t bring frogs to them we couldn’t

couldn’t bring frogs to them we couldn’t

couldn’t bring frogs to them we couldn’t bring plants and soil to them but we

bring plants and soil to them but we

bring plants and soil to them but we could bring the images of trees the

could bring the images of trees the

could bring the images of trees the images of nature to them in these cells

images of nature to them in these cells

images of nature to them in these cells and that’s exactly what we’ve been able

and that’s exactly what we’ve been able

and that’s exactly what we’ve been able to do starting with one prison in Oregon

to do starting with one prison in Oregon

to do starting with one prison in Oregon state where we now have projectors that

state where we now have projectors that

state where we now have projectors that are now beaming images of trees and

are now beaming images of trees and

are now beaming images of trees and forests and other images of nature

forests and other images of nature

forests and other images of nature within these very sterile cells to at

within these very sterile cells to at

within these very sterile cells to at least show them and expose them to the

least show them and expose them to the

least show them and expose them to the beauty of trees which in other

beauty of trees which in other

beauty of trees which in other situations bring down stress brings down

situations bring down stress brings down

situations bring down stress brings down anxiety and brings down violence what we

anxiety and brings down violence what we

anxiety and brings down violence what we found on just the first two months is

found on just the first two months is

found on just the first two months is that in fact violent interactions and

that in fact violent interactions and

that in fact violent interactions and infractions have gone down in the units

infractions have gone down in the units

infractions have gone down in the units of where these nature imagery

of where these nature imagery

of where these nature imagery projections are being being offered and

projections are being being offered and

projections are being being offered and so we hope to get really strong evidence

so we hope to get really strong evidence

so we hope to get really strong evidence for that so that we can spread that to

for that so that we can spread that to

for that so that we can spread that to other prisons across the country all of

other prisons across the country all of

other prisons across the country all of us as explorers I think can think about

us as explorers I think can think about

us as explorers I think can think about ways that we can link the values of the

ways that we can link the values of the

ways that we can link the values of the plants and the animals and the people

plants and the animals and the people

plants and the animals and the people that we are investigating in these

that we are investigating in these

that we are investigating in these far-flung places to the public not just

far-flung places to the public not just

far-flung places to the public not just to the public and people like us but to

to the public and people like us but to

to the public and people like us but to the public that may not be so aware of

the public that may not be so aware of

the public that may not be so aware of the importance of ecological values and

the importance of ecological values and

the importance of ecological values and so I invite each of you to think about

so I invite each of you to think about

so I invite each of you to think about and I think all of you are explorers to

and I think all of you are explorers to

and I think all of you are explorers to think about the plant or animal or

think about the plant or animal or

think about the plant or animal or people that you might relate to other

people that you might relate to other

people that you might relate to other kinds of values within society in order

kinds of values within society in order

kinds of values within society in order to cut through the noise and communicate

to cut through the noise and communicate

to cut through the noise and communicate with them I’ve started what I call the

with them I’ve started what I call the

with them I’ve started what I call the research ambassador program funded by

research ambassador program funded by

research ambassador program funded by the National Science Foundation to take

the National Science Foundation to take

the National Science Foundation to take other scientists to do this kind of work

other scientists to do this kind of work

other scientists to do this kind of work to take their research their knowledge

to take their research their knowledge

to take their research their knowledge their deep knowledge moving from the

their deep knowledge moving from the

their deep knowledge moving from the unknown to the known and share that in

unknown to the known and share that in

unknown to the known and share that in an an inclusive way with other people in

an an inclusive way with other people in

an an inclusive way with other people in society

society

society I’ll end by just repeating that

I’ll end by just repeating that

I’ll end by just repeating that explorers do have the joy of

explorers do have the joy of

explorers do have the joy of investigating biota in place that lie

investigating biota in place that lie

investigating biota in place that lie outside the ordinary and that we must

outside the ordinary and that we must

outside the ordinary and that we must share what we learn with those who do

share what we learn with those who do

share what we learn with those who do not share our values although there’s

not share our values although there’s

not share our values although there’s really very little training at least in

really very little training at least in

really very little training at least in academia for this I believe that we all

academia for this I believe that we all

academia for this I believe that we all can do this I believe that if a single

can do this I believe that if a single

can do this I believe that if a single tree can move around our planet seven

tree can move around our planet seven

tree can move around our planet seven times in a year if Barbie can climb

times in a year if Barbie can climb

times in a year if Barbie can climb trees with her high-heeled feet

trees with her high-heeled feet

trees with her high-heeled feet if rap singers can inspire urban

if rap singers can inspire urban

if rap singers can inspire urban children if puppets can become places to

children if puppets can become places to

children if puppets can become places to preach about conservation and if

preach about conservation and if

preach about conservation and if prisoners can nurture species and bring

prisoners can nurture species and bring

prisoners can nurture species and bring them away from extinction while even

them away from extinction while even

them away from extinction while even these prisoners are still caged then I

these prisoners are still caged then I

these prisoners are still caged then I think that explorers like us can counter

think that explorers like us can counter

think that explorers like us can counter the deep-rooted and heavily trunk

the deep-rooted and heavily trunk

the deep-rooted and heavily trunk problems of plants and animals and

problems of plants and animals and

problems of plants and animals and people on our planet I’ve learned many

people on our planet I’ve learned many

people on our planet I’ve learned many lessons with the support of the National

lessons with the support of the National

lessons with the support of the National Geographic Society I’ve learned that by

Geographic Society I’ve learned that by

Geographic Society I’ve learned that by making creative leaps that turn out to

making creative leaps that turn out to

making creative leaps that turn out to be just small stepping stones by

be just small stepping stones by

be just small stepping stones by engaging it by engaging partners in all

engaging it by engaging partners in all

engaging it by engaging partners in all walks of life and most of all by opening

walks of life and most of all by opening

walks of life and most of all by opening ourselves to the values of others we can

ourselves to the values of others we can

ourselves to the values of others we can harness the beautiful movement of

harness the beautiful movement of

harness the beautiful movement of seemingly intractable intractable

seemingly intractable intractable

seemingly intractable intractable obstacles that will prove that will

obstacles that will prove that will

obstacles that will prove that will propel us upward and onward thank you

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