
let’s begin with an empty room now imagine that space imagine a form within
imagine that space imagine a form within
imagine that space imagine a form within that space or not the french artist yves
that space or not the french artist yves
that space or not the french artist yves klein once had a solo exhibition in
klein once had a solo exhibition in
klein once had a solo exhibition in France where he just had the room he
France where he just had the room he
France where he just had the room he just exhibited the room so therefore you
just exhibited the room so therefore you
just exhibited the room so therefore you saw that space was also art which leads
saw that space was also art which leads
saw that space was also art which leads us to the question to the somewhat
us to the question to the somewhat
us to the question to the somewhat disturbing question of the day which is
disturbing question of the day which is
disturbing question of the day which is what’s what and who decides so do you
what’s what and who decides so do you
what’s what and who decides so do you see what you can see that now you know
see what you can see that now you know
see what you can see that now you know this is the empty space and then you
this is the empty space and then you
this is the empty space and then you imagine a work you are imagine the works
imagine a work you are imagine the works
imagine a work you are imagine the works within that space and you see what what
within that space and you see what what
within that space and you see what what is the artist intend and what is what is
is the artist intend and what is what is
is the artist intend and what is what is the viewer gained from that are these
the viewer gained from that are these
the viewer gained from that are these experiences the same do they overlap do
experiences the same do they overlap do
experiences the same do they overlap do you need to understand what the artist
you need to understand what the artist
you need to understand what the artist had in mind or is it something that you
had in mind or is it something that you
had in mind or is it something that you you know from your own experiences
you know from your own experiences
you know from your own experiences impose on the work and then you want to
impose on the work and then you want to
impose on the work and then you want to know what is the artists intention
know what is the artists intention
know what is the artists intention anyway I am a sculptor and if it were my
anyway I am a sculptor and if it were my
anyway I am a sculptor and if it were my works in the room these are the things i
works in the room these are the things i
works in the room these are the things i would want to happen i would want that
would want to happen i would want that
would want to happen i would want that that sculpture to immediately arrest
that sculpture to immediately arrest
that sculpture to immediately arrest your attention for your breath to be
your attention for your breath to be
your attention for your breath to be taken away i feel i would want that form
taken away i feel i would want that form
taken away i feel i would want that form to own the space absolutely you know
to own the space absolutely you know
to own the space absolutely you know engulf that entire space and i would
engulf that entire space and i would
engulf that entire space and i would want that sculpture to be singed in your
want that sculpture to be singed in your
want that sculpture to be singed in your memory most specifically i like to
memory most specifically i like to
memory most specifically i like to capture an idea you know so so the way
capture an idea you know so so the way
capture an idea you know so so the way what we’re going to do now is we’re
what we’re going to do now is we’re
what we’re going to do now is we’re going to just divide the stock into the
going to just divide the stock into the
going to just divide the stock into the idea the process and the product or the
idea the process and the product or the
idea the process and the product or the creation so you have I our work with
creation so you have I our work with
creation so you have I our work with with a human form that that is my main
with a human form that that is my main
with a human form that that is my main metaphor I use it as a metaphor I use a
metaphor I use it as a metaphor I use a
metaphor I use it as a metaphor I use a as I use it literally and I try to
as I use it literally and I try to
as I use it literally and I try to capture in every sculpture of mine I
capture in every sculpture of mine I
capture in every sculpture of mine I track to capture movement because for me
track to capture movement because for me
track to capture movement because for me movement is life if a body is still its
movement is life if a body is still its
movement is life if a body is still its depth but in the stillness in my work I
depth but in the stillness in my work I
depth but in the stillness in my work I try to capture some movement so for me
try to capture some movement so for me
try to capture some movement so for me it is there is there is movement in
it is there is there is movement in
it is there is there is movement in stillness as there is stillness in the
stillness as there is stillness in the
stillness as there is stillness in the movement as you would sometimes see you
movement as you would sometimes see you
movement as you would sometimes see you know if you see a body seated and you
know if you see a body seated and you
know if you see a body seated and you see the thumb that is just you know
see the thumb that is just you know
see the thumb that is just you know lifting up like this even though the
lifting up like this even though the
lifting up like this even though the body is quiet and as autonomous there is
body is quiet and as autonomous there is
body is quiet and as autonomous there is that little movement that tension so
that little movement that tension so
that little movement that tension so that’s what I try to bring in my work
that’s what I try to bring in my work
that’s what I try to bring in my work and in this whole range of movements you
and in this whole range of movements you
and in this whole range of movements you have if you have two ends of the scale
have if you have two ends of the scale
have if you have two ends of the scale you have stillness and you have been
you have stillness and you have been
you have stillness and you have been frantic frenzied movement and in between
frantic frenzied movement and in between
frantic frenzied movement and in between all these parts you also have several
all these parts you also have several
all these parts you also have several stages of that movement and for me every
stages of that movement and for me every
stages of that movement and for me every one of those parts is a work so it is
one of those parts is a work so it is
one of those parts is a work so it is the process and the product so I’d like
the process and the product so I’d like
the process and the product so I’d like to also think that my sculptures live in
to also think that my sculptures live in
to also think that my sculptures live in the present continuous as I was saying
the present continuous as I was saying
the present continuous as I was saying you know I like to see them move and I
you know I like to see them move and I
you know I like to see them move and I liked you know so because it’s like if
liked you know so because it’s like if
liked you know so because it’s like if you had come into a room and you know
you had come into a room and you know
you had come into a room and you know you see a sculpture you see them in
you see a sculpture you see them in
you see a sculpture you see them in great abandon enjoy and they seem like
great abandon enjoy and they seem like
great abandon enjoy and they seem like they have just stopped there just
they have just stopped there just
they have just stopped there just because you are looking at them and
because you are looking at them and
because you are looking at them and should you turn away you know they have
should you turn away you know they have
should you turn away you know they have changed they are going on with their
changed they are going on with their
changed they are going on with their happy movement but then when you go
happy movement but then when you go
happy movement but then when you go again and look at them they come back to
again and look at them they come back to
again and look at them they come back to that you know they take that same
that you know they take that same
that you know they take that same position again so I feel I want to
position again so I feel I want to
position again so I feel I want to infuse life in that movement even in
infuse life in that movement even in
infuse life in that movement even in that one static state I want you to
that one static state I want you to
that one static state I want you to imagine the entire range of movement and
imagine the entire range of movement and
imagine the entire range of movement and the joy that flows within that movement
the joy that flows within that movement
the joy that flows within that movement my work is also about communication in
my work is also about communication in
my work is also about communication in and I mean that should be the absolute
and I mean that should be the absolute
and I mean that should be the absolute you know bedrock of any artists thinking
you know bedrock of any artists thinking
you know bedrock of any artists thinking because you know if you didn’t want to
because you know if you didn’t want to
because you know if you didn’t want to communicate then you want to work you
communicate then you want to work you
communicate then you want to work you know so I do use the you know the whole
know so I do use the you know the whole
know so I do use the you know the whole thing of this celebration of life as a
thing of this celebration of life as a
thing of this celebration of life as a part of my sculptures and
part of my sculptures and
part of my sculptures and you know my work communicates like in in
you know my work communicates like in in
you know my work communicates like in in the air in this you would see here that
the air in this you would see here that
the air in this you would see here that even in the stillness that I was trying
even in the stillness that I was trying
even in the stillness that I was trying to explain you know there is a
to explain you know there is a
to explain you know there is a communication and there is a movement in
communication and there is a movement in
communication and there is a movement in within that still for those still forms
within that still for those still forms
within that still for those still forms like you hear like you see you know in
like you hear like you see you know in
like you hear like you see you know in in some of the works i use the ribbon
in some of the works i use the ribbon
in some of the works i use the ribbon which is you know in is being thrown and
which is you know in is being thrown and
which is you know in is being thrown and it captures that movement but it is
it captures that movement but it is
it captures that movement but it is frozen in that movement of for example
frozen in that movement of for example
frozen in that movement of for example here there is a twirl i I mean the twirl
here there is a twirl i I mean the twirl
here there is a twirl i I mean the twirl of the of the body form and that entire
of the of the body form and that entire
of the of the body form and that entire weight that is you know seems weightless
weight that is you know seems weightless
weight that is you know seems weightless seems light you know that that’s that’s
seems light you know that that’s that’s
seems light you know that that’s that’s what I try to do and my premise is that
what I try to do and my premise is that
what I try to do and my premise is that if it came into my mind then it can be
if it came into my mind then it can be
if it came into my mind then it can be done something that is thought has can
done something that is thought has can
done something that is thought has can be created for example this work I got
be created for example this work I got
be created for example this work I got titled it’s joy and when you look at it
titled it’s joy and when you look at it
titled it’s joy and when you look at it you know you do get that feeling of
you know you do get that feeling of
you know you do get that feeling of elation use I hope that you get that
elation use I hope that you get that
elation use I hope that you get that feeling of elation and I tried to you
feeling of elation and I tried to you
feeling of elation and I tried to you know with this heavy medium that I use
know with this heavy medium that I use
know with this heavy medium that I use bronze I try to give a weightlessness a
bronze I try to give a weightlessness a
bronze I try to give a weightlessness a sense of flight of joy you know of
sense of flight of joy you know of
sense of flight of joy you know of something that whether where the spirit
something that whether where the spirit
something that whether where the spirit soars that for me is is is what I would
soars that for me is is is what I would
soars that for me is is is what I would like to express and communicate in my
like to express and communicate in my
like to express and communicate in my work to me the work begins in the mind
work to me the work begins in the mind
work to me the work begins in the mind you know it is a thought it is an idea
you know it is a thought it is an idea
you know it is a thought it is an idea and there is a great excitement I want
and there is a great excitement I want
and there is a great excitement I want to see for myself what that idea is
to see for myself what that idea is
to see for myself what that idea is going to be how it’s done how will it
going to be how it’s done how will it
going to be how it’s done how will it take form in reality and I want to see
take form in reality and I want to see
take form in reality and I want to see that vision which I have in my mind’s
that vision which I have in my mind’s
that vision which I have in my mind’s eye so so the whole process it starts
eye so so the whole process it starts
eye so so the whole process it starts with this you know just a newborn
with this you know just a newborn
with this you know just a newborn thought newborn idea and then that
thought newborn idea and then that
thought newborn idea and then that entire process of you getting revealed
entire process of you getting revealed
entire process of you getting revealed of revealing itself is and revealing
of revealing itself is and revealing
of revealing itself is and revealing itself very organically sometimes it
itself very organically sometimes it
itself very organically sometimes it changes along the way and it becomes
changes along the way and it becomes
changes along the way and it becomes inevitably what it should be and that
inevitably what it should be and that
inevitably what it should be and that end product or that end sculpture
end product or that end sculpture
end product or that end sculpture sometimes this is so much better and so
sometimes this is so much better and so
sometimes this is so much better and so much more enjoyable for me than the
much more enjoyable for me than the
much more enjoyable for me than the original idea so this this is also a
original idea so this this is also a
original idea so this this is also a very exciting kind of part of the
very exciting kind of part of the
very exciting kind of part of the process and therefore I go on to the
process and therefore I go on to the
process and therefore I go on to the next
next
next age which is the process and process
age which is the process and process
age which is the process and process being you know bronze casting which is
being you know bronze casting which is
being you know bronze casting which is you know the old age old lost wax
you know the old age old lost wax
you know the old age old lost wax process which is over 5,000 years old
process which is over 5,000 years old
process which is over 5,000 years old and it is it’s it’s been it’s remained
and it is it’s it’s been it’s remained
and it is it’s it’s been it’s remained unchanged for all these years some of
unchanged for all these years some of
unchanged for all these years some of the Harappa and the mohenjo-daro bronzes
the Harappa and the mohenjo-daro bronzes
the Harappa and the mohenjo-daro bronzes are you know were made with the same
are you know were made with the same
are you know were made with the same process so it’s an old process which
process so it’s an old process which
process so it’s an old process which hasn’t changed and I tried to bring this
hasn’t changed and I tried to bring this
hasn’t changed and I tried to bring this heavy medium and to express lightness a
heavy medium and to express lightness a
heavy medium and to express lightness a freedom or balance you know once a
freedom or balance you know once a
freedom or balance you know once a critic said that my sculpture seemed to
critic said that my sculpture seemed to
critic said that my sculpture seemed to defy the laws of physics for me that was
defy the laws of physics for me that was
defy the laws of physics for me that was a great compliment and because it’s a
a great compliment and because it’s a
a great compliment and because it’s a fantastic thing to to first have the
fantastic thing to to first have the
fantastic thing to to first have the idea in your mind and you know you’ll
idea in your mind and you know you’ll
idea in your mind and you know you’ll never sure whether that will work and
never sure whether that will work and
never sure whether that will work and should it work it’s it’s an extremely
should it work it’s it’s an extremely
should it work it’s it’s an extremely you know fulfilling feeling so and it’s
you know fulfilling feeling so and it’s
you know fulfilling feeling so and it’s very important that each that I do that
very important that each that I do that
very important that each that I do that one work and that one work gives birth
one work and that one work gives birth
one work and that one work gives birth to the next if one seized to work at
to the next if one seized to work at
to the next if one seized to work at that point being satisfied with that one
that point being satisfied with that one
that point being satisfied with that one work one would never see the next work
work one would never see the next work
work one would never see the next work and the possibilities of the next work
and the possibilities of the next work
and the possibilities of the next work and this whole thing gives you that
and this whole thing gives you that
and this whole thing gives you that entire feeling of freedom of an endless
entire feeling of freedom of an endless
entire feeling of freedom of an endless you know an endless pit of of
you know an endless pit of of
you know an endless pit of of possibilities and you know of a lifelong
possibilities and you know of a lifelong
possibilities and you know of a lifelong journey of working so now we come to the
journey of working so now we come to the
journey of working so now we come to the whole thing of the of the creations so
whole thing of the of the creations so
whole thing of the of the creations so the thing is that these that the when
the thing is that these that the when
the thing is that these that the when the file when I finally create the work
the file when I finally create the work
the file when I finally create the work these sculptures are very personal in
these sculptures are very personal in
these sculptures are very personal in some ways they are very personal the
some ways they are very personal the
some ways they are very personal the thoughts are very personal but I also
thoughts are very personal but I also
thoughts are very personal but I also hope that they communicate to other
hope that they communicate to other
hope that they communicate to other people you know the whole idea of an
people you know the whole idea of an
people you know the whole idea of an artist working is to communicate as I
artist working is to communicate as I
artist working is to communicate as I said so it and one hand and the reason
said so it and one hand and the reason
said so it and one hand and the reason why I feel you know the work
why I feel you know the work
why I feel you know the work communicates to others is that are used
communicates to others is that are used
communicates to others is that are used since I use the human form and I use the
since I use the human form and I use the
since I use the human form and I use the body language as my medium I feel that
body language as my medium I feel that
body language as my medium I feel that that is a universal language and it
that is a universal language and it
that is a universal language and it communicates itself
communicates itself
communicates itself in the expression for me artists forever
in the expression for me artists forever
in the expression for me artists forever and particularly the medium that I use
and particularly the medium that I use
and particularly the medium that I use bronze it is withstood the test of time
bronze it is withstood the test of time
bronze it is withstood the test of time you know centuries and it is or it is
you know centuries and it is or it is
you know centuries and it is or it is it’s such a strong medium it has
it’s such a strong medium it has
it’s such a strong medium it has withstood floods and earthquakes and was
withstood floods and earthquakes and was
withstood floods and earthquakes and was and but you know that is there is a very
and but you know that is there is a very
and but you know that is there is a very subtle more profound thing either i hope
subtle more profound thing either i hope
subtle more profound thing either i hope persists or lives on is that the not the
persists or lives on is that the not the
persists or lives on is that the not the message so much but the feeling the
message so much but the feeling the
message so much but the feeling the emotion that those sculptures would
emotion that those sculptures would
emotion that those sculptures would convey and each generation will glean
convey and each generation will glean
convey and each generation will glean from it you know what it can or whatever
from it you know what it can or whatever
from it you know what it can or whatever is relevant at that time and one hopes
is relevant at that time and one hopes
is relevant at that time and one hopes that these things are timeless because
that these things are timeless because
that these things are timeless because emotion is timeless and a human emotion
emotion is timeless and a human emotion
emotion is timeless and a human emotion and humid human situation is timeless
and humid human situation is timeless
and humid human situation is timeless and so now let’s return to that empty
and so now let’s return to that empty
and so now let’s return to that empty room and where we started so if we place
room and where we started so if we place
room and where we started so if we place a sculpture in that row it not only
a sculpture in that row it not only
a sculpture in that row it not only defies defines itself but it also
defies defines itself but it also
defies defines itself but it also defines that space within it what is
defines that space within it what is
defines that space within it what is that question which was disturbing
that question which was disturbing
that question which was disturbing what’s what is no longer so disturbing
what’s what is no longer so disturbing
what’s what is no longer so disturbing it now seems to be a slightly different
it now seems to be a slightly different
it now seems to be a slightly different question what’s that you know one feels
question what’s that you know one feels
question what’s that you know one feels like asking and the answer is a
like asking and the answer is a
like asking and the answer is a combination of both of my experience of
combination of both of my experience of
combination of both of my experience of personal experience of a universal
personal experience of a universal
personal experience of a universal experience of bringing together of both
experience of bringing together of both
experience of bringing together of both the viewers experience and the artists
the viewers experience and the artists
the viewers experience and the artists sometimes these experiences sometimes
sometimes these experiences sometimes
sometimes these experiences sometimes these things overlap and sometimes they
these things overlap and sometimes they
these things overlap and sometimes they don’t and if they don’t then one is left
don’t and if they don’t then one is left
don’t and if they don’t then one is left with that cliche I don’t know what art
with that cliche I don’t know what art
with that cliche I don’t know what art is but I know what I like thank
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