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tribes constitute thousands of natural

tribes constitute thousands of natural experiments in how to run a human

experiments in how to run a human

experiments in how to run a human society they constitute experiments from

society they constitute experiments from

society they constitute experiments from which we may learn we may be able to

which we may learn we may be able to

which we may learn we may be able to learn things of practical use to us in

learn things of practical use to us in

learn things of practical use to us in deciding how to raise our kids how to

deciding how to raise our kids how to

deciding how to raise our kids how to treat our older people and other things

treat our older people and other things

treat our older people and other things that we care a lot about the lives of

that we care a lot about the lives of

that we care a lot about the lives of the elderly constitute a disaster area

the elderly constitute a disaster area

the elderly constitute a disaster area of modern American society we can surely

of modern American society we can surely

of modern American society we can surely do better by learning from the lives of

do better by learning from the lives of

do better by learning from the lives of the elderly in traditional societies I

the elderly in traditional societies I

the elderly in traditional societies I [Music]

wanted to talk this evening about a

wanted to talk this evening about a topic in cultural geography to give me

topic in cultural geography to give me

topic in cultural geography to give me an idea of how many of you will find

an idea of how many of you will find

an idea of how many of you will find what I’m going to say this evening of

what I’m going to say this evening of

what I’m going to say this evening of practical value I’d like to begin by

practical value I’d like to begin by

practical value I’d like to begin by asking you to raise your hands in

asking you to raise your hands in

asking you to raise your hands in response to either of two questions

response to either of two questions

response to either of two questions first let me ask you to raise your hands

first let me ask you to raise your hands

first let me ask you to raise your hands if you fall into any of the following

if you fall into any of the following

if you fall into any of the following categories if you’re over 65 or if you

categories if you’re over 65 or if you

categories if you’re over 65 or if you hope to live past age 65 or if you have

hope to live past age 65 or if you have

hope to live past age 65 or if you have any parent or grandparent who has or did

any parent or grandparent who has or did

any parent or grandparent who has or did live past age 65 would you please raise

live past age 65 would you please raise

live past age 65 would you please raise your hands many positive responses

your hands many positive responses

your hands many positive responses secondly if you are now under 65 and

secondly if you are now under 65 and

secondly if you are now under 65 and have no intention of living past 65 and

have no intention of living past 65 and

have no intention of living past 65 and have no parent or grandparent who

have no parent or grandparent who

have no parent or grandparent who cleared 65 would you please raise your

cleared 65 would you please raise your

cleared 65 would you please raise your hands not much response there but those

hands not much response there but those

hands not much response there but those of you in the first category it’s you

of you in the first category it’s you

of you in the first category it’s you who will find my talk this evening to be

who will find my talk this evening to be

who will find my talk this evening to be a practical value and any of you in the

a practical value and any of you in the

a practical value and any of you in the second category will still find what I’m

second category will still find what I’m

second category will still find what I’m going to talk about this evening

going to talk about this evening

going to talk about this evening fascinating even if it isn’t personally

fascinating even if it isn’t personally

fascinating even if it isn’t personally relevant to you I’m going to talk about

relevant to you I’m going to talk about

relevant to you I’m going to talk about growing older in traditional societies

growing older in traditional societies

growing older in traditional societies this subject constitutes just one

this subject constitutes just one

this subject constitutes just one chapter of my

chapter of my

chapter of my latest book which compares traditional

latest book which compares traditional

latest book which compares traditional small tribal societies with our big

small tribal societies with our big

small tribal societies with our big modern societies all of us here this

modern societies all of us here this

modern societies all of us here this evening are accustomed to living in big

evening are accustomed to living in big

evening are accustomed to living in big industrial societies in permanent

industrial societies in permanent

industrial societies in permanent housing with centralized governments to

housing with centralized governments to

housing with centralized governments to make decisions with writing and books

make decisions with writing and books

make decisions with writing and books and the internet where most people live

and the internet where most people live

and the internet where most people live past age 60 where we are constantly

past age 60 where we are constantly

past age 60 where we are constantly encountering strangers just as all of us

encountering strangers just as all of us

encountering strangers just as all of us are this evening without freaking out

are this evening without freaking out

are this evening without freaking out and where most of us eat food grown by

and where most of us eat food grown by

and where most of us eat food grown by other people we forget that all of those

other people we forget that all of those

other people we forget that all of those things arose very recently in human

things arose very recently in human

things arose very recently in human history humans have constituted a

history humans have constituted a

history humans have constituted a separate line of evolution for about 6

separate line of evolution for about 6

separate line of evolution for about 6 million years but almost all of the

million years but almost all of the

million years but almost all of the things that I just mentioned didn’t

things that I just mentioned didn’t

things that I just mentioned didn’t exist anywhere in the world eleven

exist anywhere in the world eleven

exist anywhere in the world eleven thousand years ago they rose just within

thousand years ago they rose just within

thousand years ago they rose just within the last 11 thousand years and some of

the last 11 thousand years and some of

the last 11 thousand years and some of them such as the internet and the

them such as the internet and the

them such as the internet and the phenomenon of most people living past

phenomenon of most people living past

phenomenon of most people living past age 60 or only within the last century

age 60 or only within the last century

age 60 or only within the last century or two that is the ancestors of all of

or two that is the ancestors of all of

or two that is the ancestors of all of us here were living under traditional

us here were living under traditional

us here were living under traditional tribal conditions until virtually

tribal conditions until virtually

tribal conditions until virtually yesterday measured on the timescale of

yesterday measured on the timescale of

yesterday measured on the timescale of human evolution until Europeans began to

human evolution until Europeans began to

human evolution until Europeans began to expand around the globe 500 years ago

expand around the globe 500 years ago

expand around the globe 500 years ago tribal societies still occupied large

tribal societies still occupied large

tribal societies still occupied large parts of all continents but tribal

parts of all continents but tribal

parts of all continents but tribal societies have recently been coming

societies have recently been coming

societies have recently been coming under the control of modern societies

under the control of modern societies

under the control of modern societies with state governments to the point

with state governments to the point

with state governments to the point where today the last tribal societies

where today the last tribal societies

where today the last tribal societies not yet under state control are confined

not yet under state control are confined

not yet under state control are confined to small areas of New Guinea and the

to small areas of New Guinea and the

to small areas of New Guinea and the Amazon basin those tribal societies

Amazon basin those tribal societies

Amazon basin those tribal societies which constituted all human societies

which constituted all human societies

which constituted all human societies for most of human history are far more

for most of human history are far more

for most of human history are far more diverse than our modern big societies

diverse than our modern big societies

diverse than our modern big societies all big societies that have governments

all big societies that have governments

all big societies that have governments and where most people are strangers to

and where most people are strangers to

and where most people are strangers to each other all of those big societies

each other all of those big societies

each other all of those big societies are similar to each other and different

are similar to each other and different

are similar to each other and different from tribal societies in many basic ways

from tribal societies in many basic ways

from tribal societies in many basic ways regardless of whether the big societies

regardless of whether the big societies

regardless of whether the big societies are American

are American

are American German Chinese or Israeli tribes

German Chinese or Israeli tribes

German Chinese or Israeli tribes constitute thousands of natural

constitute thousands of natural

constitute thousands of natural experiments in how to run a human

experiments in how to run a human

experiments in how to run a human society they constitute experiments from

society they constitute experiments from

society they constitute experiments from which we may be able to learn we may be

which we may be able to learn we may be

which we may be able to learn we may be able to learn things of practical use to

able to learn things of practical use to

able to learn things of practical use to us in deciding how to raise our kids how

us in deciding how to raise our kids how

us in deciding how to raise our kids how to treat our older people how to remain

to treat our older people how to remain

to treat our older people how to remain healthy and other things that we care a

healthy and other things that we care a

healthy and other things that we care a lot about the treatment of the elderly

lot about the treatment of the elderly

lot about the treatment of the elderly varies enormous ly among traditional

varies enormous ly among traditional

varies enormous ly among traditional societies from much worse to much better

societies from much worse to much better

societies from much worse to much better than in our modern societies at the

than in our modern societies at the

than in our modern societies at the worst extreme many traditional societies

worst extreme many traditional societies

worst extreme many traditional societies get rid of their elderly in one of five

get rid of their elderly in one of five

get rid of their elderly in one of five increasingly direct ways the most

increasingly direct ways the most

increasingly direct ways the most indirect method to get rid of the

indirect method to get rid of the

indirect method to get rid of the elderly is just to neglect old people

elderly is just to neglect old people

elderly is just to neglect old people and not to feed them or to clean them

and not to feed them or to clean them

and not to feed them or to clean them until they die the second method is to

until they die the second method is to

until they die the second method is to abandon them when the group moves the

abandon them when the group moves the

abandon them when the group moves the third method is to encourage older

third method is to encourage older

third method is to encourage older people to commit suicide

people to commit suicide

people to commit suicide a fourth more direct method is to kill

a fourth more direct method is to kill

a fourth more direct method is to kill all the people with their own

all the people with their own

all the people with their own cooperation for example among the cow

cooperation for example among the cow

cooperation for example among the cow long people of Papua New Guinea a widow

long people of Papua New Guinea a widow

long people of Papua New Guinea a widow whose husband has just died

whose husband has just died

whose husband has just died traditionally asked her brothers or sons

traditionally asked her brothers or sons

traditionally asked her brothers or sons to come strangle her and the fifth and

to come strangle her and the fifth and

to come strangle her and the fifth and most direct method of getting rid of the

most direct method of getting rid of the

most direct method of getting rid of the elderly is to kill them without their

elderly is to kill them without their

elderly is to kill them without their consent or cooperation in what tribal

consent or cooperation in what tribal

consent or cooperation in what tribal societies do children abandon or kill

societies do children abandon or kill

societies do children abandon or kill their parents it happens mainly under

their parents it happens mainly under

their parents it happens mainly under two sets of conditions one is in nomadic

two sets of conditions one is in nomadic

two sets of conditions one is in nomadic hunter-gatherer societies that often

hunter-gatherer societies that often

hunter-gatherer societies that often shift camp and that are physically

shift camp and that are physically

shift camp and that are physically incapable of transporting old people who

incapable of transporting old people who

incapable of transporting old people who can’t walk when the able-bodied young

can’t walk when the able-bodied young

can’t walk when the able-bodied young people already have to carry their young

people already have to carry their young

people already have to carry their young children and all of their physical

children and all of their physical

children and all of their physical possessions the other condition is in

possessions the other condition is in

possessions the other condition is in societies living in marginal or

societies living in marginal or

societies living in marginal or fluctuating environments such as the

fluctuating environments such as the

fluctuating environments such as the Arctic or deserts where there are

Arctic or deserts where there are

Arctic or deserts where there are periodic food shortages and occasionally

periodic food shortages and occasionally

periodic food shortages and occasionally there just isn’t enough food to keep

there just isn’t enough food to keep

there just isn’t enough food to keep everybody alive what has to choose

everybody alive what has to choose

everybody alive what has to choose whatever food is available has to be

whatever food is available has to be

whatever food is available has to be reserved for the able-bodied people

reserved for the able-bodied people

reserved for the able-bodied people still capable of contributing to the

still capable of contributing to the

still capable of contributing to the tribes survival and to the children who

tribes survival and to the children who

tribes survival and to the children who will grow up to be the tribes future

will grow up to be the tribes future

will grow up to be the tribes future adults to us modern Americans it sounds

adults to us modern Americans it sounds

adults to us modern Americans it sounds horrible to think of abandoning or

horrible to think of abandoning or

horrible to think of abandoning or killing your own sick spouse or your own

killing your own sick spouse or your own

killing your own sick spouse or your own elderly parent but what else could those

elderly parent but what else could those

elderly parent but what else could those societies do they face a cruel choice

societies do they face a cruel choice

societies do they face a cruel choice the old people had to do it to their own

the old people had to do it to their own

the old people had to do it to their own parents and the old people know what now

parents and the old people know what now

parents and the old people know what now is going to happen to them in fact many

is going to happen to them in fact many

is going to happen to them in fact many of us many of you here have already

of us many of you here have already

of us many of you here have already faced well you will face an ordeal

faced well you will face an ordeal

faced well you will face an ordeal similar to the ordeal faced by those

similar to the ordeal faced by those

similar to the ordeal faced by those nomadic or Arctic or desert tribal

nomadic or Arctic or desert tribal

nomadic or Arctic or desert tribal society when you are the physician or

society when you are the physician or

society when you are the physician or when you are the relative responsible

when you are the relative responsible

when you are the relative responsible for the medical care of an old person

for the medical care of an old person

for the medical care of an old person and when you’re the one who has to

and when you’re the one who has to

and when you’re the one who has to decide whether and when to hold further

decide whether and when to hold further

decide whether and when to hold further medical interventions and when just to

medical interventions and when just to

medical interventions and when just to administer painkillers and sedatives for

administer painkillers and sedatives for

administer painkillers and sedatives for a sick spouse or parent at the opposite

a sick spouse or parent at the opposite

a sick spouse or parent at the opposite extreme in the treatment of the elderly

extreme in the treatment of the elderly

extreme in the treatment of the elderly the happy extreme or the New Guinea

the happy extreme or the New Guinea

the happy extreme or the New Guinea farming societies where I’ve been doing

farming societies where I’ve been doing

farming societies where I’ve been doing my fieldwork for the past 50 years and

my fieldwork for the past 50 years and

my fieldwork for the past 50 years and many other sedentary traditional

many other sedentary traditional

many other sedentary traditional societies around the world in those

societies around the world in those

societies around the world in those societies all the people are generally

societies all the people are generally

societies all the people are generally cared for the affair they remain

cared for the affair they remain

cared for the affair they remain valuable and they continue to live in

valuable and they continue to live in

valuable and they continue to live in the same hot or else in a nearby Hut

the same hot or else in a nearby Hut

the same hot or else in a nearby Hut near their children relatives and

near their children relatives and

near their children relatives and lifelong friends in traditional New

lifelong friends in traditional New

lifelong friends in traditional New Guinea societies where there aren’t

Guinea societies where there aren’t

Guinea societies where there aren’t dentists and where all the people

dentists and where all the people

dentists and where all the people gradually lose their teeth and can no

gradually lose their teeth and can no

gradually lose their teeth and can no longer chew their own food their adult

longer chew their own food their adult

longer chew their own food their adult children chew the food until it’s soft

children chew the food until it’s soft

children chew the food until it’s soft spitting into a cup and give that soft

spitting into a cup and give that soft

spitting into a cup and give that soft food to the toothless old person to eat

food to the toothless old person to eat

food to the toothless old person to eat I don’t know of any modern Western

I don’t know of any modern Western

I don’t know of any modern Western society in which such

society in which such

society in which such care of old people is routine there were

care of old people is routine there were

care of old people is routine there were two main sets of reasons for this

two main sets of reasons for this

two main sets of reasons for this variation among societies in their

variation among societies in their

variation among societies in their treatment of old people the variation

treatment of old people the variation

treatment of old people the variation depends upon the usefulness of old

depends upon the usefulness of old

depends upon the usefulness of old people and on the Society’s values first

people and on the Society’s values first

people and on the Society’s values first as regards usefulness older people

as regards usefulness older people

as regards usefulness older people continue to perform valuable services in

continue to perform valuable services in

continue to perform valuable services in traditional societies and also in our

traditional societies and also in our

traditional societies and also in our modern societies one use of older people

modern societies one use of older people

modern societies one use of older people in traditional societies is that they

in traditional societies is that they

in traditional societies is that they often are still effective at producing

often are still effective at producing

often are still effective at producing food for example among Hadza

food for example among Hadza

food for example among Hadza hunter-gatherers of Tanzania in Africa

hunter-gatherers of Tanzania in Africa

hunter-gatherers of Tanzania in Africa grandmother’s are the most productive

grandmother’s are the most productive

grandmother’s are the most productive women at finding and digging up wild

women at finding and digging up wild

women at finding and digging up wild edible roots because grandmothers have

edible roots because grandmothers have

edible roots because grandmothers have much more experience than do young women

much more experience than do young women

much more experience than do young women finding the roots and they often still

finding the roots and they often still

finding the roots and they often still have the necessary strength

have the necessary strength

have the necessary strength hence measurements show that the growth

hence measurements show that the growth

hence measurements show that the growth rate of the Hadza grandchild increases

rate of the Hadza grandchild increases

rate of the Hadza grandchild increases with the amount of time that the child’s

with the amount of time that the child’s

with the amount of time that the child’s grandmother spends foraging for food for

grandmother spends foraging for food for

grandmother spends foraging for food for the child while older has a

the child while older has a

the child while older has a hunter-gatherer of men they no longer

hunter-gatherer of men they no longer

hunter-gatherer of men they no longer have the strength needed to spear a lion

have the strength needed to spear a lion

have the strength needed to spear a lion they may still be useful at following

they may still be useful at following

they may still be useful at following animal tracks and at capturing small or

animal tracks and at capturing small or

animal tracks and at capturing small or slow prey that value of the experience

slow prey that value of the experience

slow prey that value of the experience of older people in traditional societies

of older people in traditional societies

of older people in traditional societies has also been confirmed for modern

has also been confirmed for modern

has also been confirmed for modern farming societies among

farming societies among

farming societies among nineteenth-century Canadian and Finnish

nineteenth-century Canadian and Finnish

nineteenth-century Canadian and Finnish farmers each decade that a grandmother

farmers each decade that a grandmother

farmers each decade that a grandmother survived past age 50 was correlated with

survived past age 50 was correlated with

survived past age 50 was correlated with two extra grandchildren of that

two extra grandchildren of that

two extra grandchildren of that grandmother eventually surviving because

grandmother eventually surviving because

grandmother eventually surviving because of the resources made available by the

of the resources made available by the

of the resources made available by the grandmother another traditional

grandmother another traditional

grandmother another traditional usefulness of older people consists of

usefulness of older people consists of

usefulness of older people consists of babysitting their grandchildren thereby

babysitting their grandchildren thereby

babysitting their grandchildren thereby freeing up their own adult children the

freeing up their own adult children the

freeing up their own adult children the parents of those grandchildren to go

parents of those grandchildren to go

parents of those grandchildren to go hunting and gathering food for the

hunting and gathering food for the

hunting and gathering food for the grandchildren

grandchildren

grandchildren finally older people in traditional

finally older people in traditional

finally older people in traditional societies have one more huge

societies have one more huge

societies have one more huge significance

significance

significance that would never occur to us in modern

that would never occur to us in modern

that would never occur to us in modern literate societies where our sources of

literate societies where our sources of

literate societies where our sources of information are books and the internet

information are books and the internet

information are books and the internet in contrast in traditional societies

in contrast in traditional societies

in contrast in traditional societies without writing older people are the

without writing older people are the

without writing older people are the repositories of information their

repositories of information their

repositories of information their knowledge spells the difference between

knowledge spells the difference between

knowledge spells the difference between survival and death for their whole

survival and death for their whole

survival and death for their whole society in a time of crisis caused by

society in a time of crisis caused by

society in a time of crisis caused by rare events of which only the oldest

rare events of which only the oldest

rare events of which only the oldest people alive have had experience in non

people alive have had experience in non

people alive have had experience in non literate traditional societies the

literate traditional societies the

literate traditional societies the knowledge of all the people spells the

knowledge of all the people spells the

knowledge of all the people spells the difference between life and death for

difference between life and death for

difference between life and death for the entire society the other set of

the entire society the other set of

the entire society the other set of reasons for variation and treatment of

reasons for variation and treatment of

reasons for variation and treatment of the elderly is the Society’s cultural

the elderly is the Society’s cultural

the elderly is the Society’s cultural values cultural values that emphasize

values cultural values that emphasize

values cultural values that emphasize respect for all the people such as

respect for all the people such as

respect for all the people such as philia piety and patriarchal families

philia piety and patriarchal families

philia piety and patriarchal families contrasts with the low status of the

contrasts with the low status of the

contrasts with the low status of the elderly in the United States older

elderly in the United States older

elderly in the United States older Americans are at a disadvantage in job

Americans are at a disadvantage in job

Americans are at a disadvantage in job applications for example a sociologist

applications for example a sociologist

applications for example a sociologist of Boston University carried out the

of Boston University carried out the

of Boston University carried out the experiment of submitting dozens of job

experiment of submitting dozens of job

experiment of submitting dozens of job applications in response to ads by

applications in response to ads by

applications in response to ads by prospective employers all the

prospective employers all the

prospective employers all the applications had fictitious names of

applications had fictitious names of

applications had fictitious names of women and all the applications were

women and all the applications were

women and all the applications were identical except that half of the

identical except that half of the

identical except that half of the applications said that the woman’s age

applications said that the woman’s age

applications said that the woman’s age was 25 to 40 while the other half the

was 25 to 40 while the other half the

was 25 to 40 while the other half the application said that her age was 45 to

application said that her age was 45 to

application said that her age was 45 to 60 the result of the experiment was that

60 the result of the experiment was that

60 the result of the experiment was that employers were twice as likely to call a

employers were twice as likely to call a

employers were twice as likely to call a woman age 25 to 40 for a job interview

woman age 25 to 40 for a job interview

woman age 25 to 40 for a job interview than a woman aged 45 to 60 there are

than a woman aged 45 to 60 there are

than a woman aged 45 to 60 there are several reasons for this low status of

several reasons for this low status of

several reasons for this low status of the elderly in the United States one is

the elderly in the United States one is

the elderly in the United States one is our Protestant work ethic which places

our Protestant work ethic which places

our Protestant work ethic which places high value on work so older people who

high value on work so older people who

high value on work so older people who are no longer working on respected

are no longer working on respected

are no longer working on respected another reason is our American emphasis

another reason is our American emphasis

another reason is our American emphasis on the virtues of self-reliance and

on the virtues of self-reliance and

on the virtues of self-reliance and independence so that we instinctively

independence so that we instinctively

independence so that we instinctively scorn all the people who are no longer

scorn all the people who are no longer

scorn all the people who are no longer self-reliant and independent until a

self-reliant and independent until a

self-reliant and independent until a third reason is our American

third reason is our American

third reason is our American cult of youth that shows up even in our

cult of youth that shows up even in our

cult of youth that shows up even in our advertisements ads for coca-cola and

advertisements ads for coca-cola and

advertisements ads for coca-cola and beer always depict smiling young people

beer always depict smiling young people

beer always depict smiling young people even though old people as well as young

even though old people as well as young

even though old people as well as young people buy coca-cola and beer well what

people buy coca-cola and beer well what

people buy coca-cola and beer well what has changed in the status of the elderly

has changed in the status of the elderly

has changed in the status of the elderly today compared to their status in

today compared to their status in

today compared to their status in traditional societies there have been a

traditional societies there have been a

traditional societies there have been a few changes for the better and more

few changes for the better and more

few changes for the better and more changes for the worse big changes for

changes for the worse big changes for

changes for the worse big changes for the better include the facts that today

the better include the facts that today

the better include the facts that today we enjoy much longer lives much better

we enjoy much longer lives much better

we enjoy much longer lives much better health in our old age and much better

health in our old age and much better

health in our old age and much better recreational opportunities changes for

recreational opportunities changes for

recreational opportunities changes for the worse start with a cruel reality

the worse start with a cruel reality

the worse start with a cruel reality that we now have far more old people and

that we now have far more old people and

that we now have far more old people and fewer young people than at any time in

fewer young people than at any time in

fewer young people than at any time in the past that means that all those old

the past that means that all those old

the past that means that all those old people are more of a burden on the few

people are more of a burden on the few

people are more of a burden on the few young people and that each old person

young people and that each old person

young people and that each old person has less individual value another big

has less individual value another big

has less individual value another big change for the worse and the status of

change for the worse and the status of

change for the worse and the status of the elderly is the breaking of social

the elderly is the breaking of social

the elderly is the breaking of social ties with age because all the people

ties with age because all the people

ties with age because all the people their children and their friends all

their children and their friends all

their children and their friends all move and scatter independently of each

move and scatter independently of each

move and scatter independently of each other

other

other many times during their lives the

many times during their lives the

many times during their lives the average American moves every five years

average American moves every five years

average American moves every five years and so all the people are likely to end

and so all the people are likely to end

and so all the people are likely to end up living distant from their children

up living distant from their children

up living distant from their children and the Friends of their youth but

and the Friends of their youth but

and the Friends of their youth but perhaps the biggest of all the changes

perhaps the biggest of all the changes

perhaps the biggest of all the changes for the worse on the status of I Olli is

for the worse on the status of I Olli is

for the worse on the status of I Olli is that they are objectively less useful

that they are objectively less useful

that they are objectively less useful than in traditional societies widespread

than in traditional societies widespread

than in traditional societies widespread literacy means that they are no longer

literacy means that they are no longer

literacy means that they are no longer useful as repositories of knowledge when

useful as repositories of knowledge when

useful as repositories of knowledge when we want some information we look it up

we want some information we look it up

we want some information we look it up in a book or we Google it instead of

in a book or we Google it instead of

in a book or we Google it instead of finding some old person to ask

finding some old person to ask

finding some old person to ask finally the slow pace of technological

finally the slow pace of technological

finally the slow pace of technological change in traditional societies means

change in traditional societies means

change in traditional societies means that what someone learns there as a

that what someone learns there as a

that what someone learns there as a child is still useful when that person

child is still useful when that person

child is still useful when that person is old but the rapid pace of

is old but the rapid pace of

is old but the rapid pace of technological change today means that

technological change today means that

technological change today means that what we learn as children is no longer

what we learn as children is no longer

what we learn as children is no longer useful 60 years later and it also means

useful 60 years later and it also means

useful 60 years later and it also means that we older people aren’t fluent in

that we older people aren’t fluent in

that we older people aren’t fluent in the technologies essential to

the technologies essential to

the technologies essential to iving in modern society today just to

iving in modern society today just to

iving in modern society today just to watch a television program on the

watch a television program on the

watch a television program on the television set in my own house I have to

television set in my own house I have to

television set in my own house I have to operate a 40 one-button TV remote that I

operate a 40 one-button TV remote that I

operate a 40 one-button TV remote that I find utterly confusing even though my

find utterly confusing even though my

find utterly confusing even though my sons have written out the instructions

sons have written out the instructions

sons have written out the instructions for me to watch television I have to

for me to watch television I have to

for me to watch television I have to telephone my 25 year old sons and I have

telephone my 25 year old sons and I have

telephone my 25 year old sons and I have to ask them to talk me through it while

to ask them to talk me through it while

to ask them to talk me through it while I attempt to follow their instructions

I attempt to follow their instructions

I attempt to follow their instructions and push those wretched 41 buttons what

and push those wretched 41 buttons what

and push those wretched 41 buttons what can we do to improve the lives of the

can we do to improve the lives of the

can we do to improve the lives of the elderly in the US and to make better use

elderly in the US and to make better use

elderly in the US and to make better use of their value that’s a huge problem one

of their value that’s a huge problem one

of their value that’s a huge problem one value of old people is that they are

value of old people is that they are

value of old people is that they are increasingly useful for offering high

increasingly useful for offering high

increasingly useful for offering high quality childcare as more and more young

quality childcare as more and more young

quality childcare as more and more young women into the workforce and as fewer

women into the workforce and as fewer

women into the workforce and as fewer young parents stay home as full-time

young parents stay home as full-time

young parents stay home as full-time caretakers of their children at the same

caretakers of their children at the same

caretakers of their children at the same time all the people have gained in value

time all the people have gained in value

time all the people have gained in value today precisely because of their unique

today precisely because of their unique

today precisely because of their unique experience of former conditions that

experience of former conditions that

experience of former conditions that have now become rare because of rapid

have now become rare because of rapid

have now become rare because of rapid change but that could come back for

change but that could come back for

change but that could come back for example only people in their 70s or

example only people in their 70s or

example only people in their 70s or older today can remember the experience

older today can remember the experience

older today can remember the experience of living through a Great Depression can

of living through a Great Depression can

of living through a Great Depression can remember the experience of living

remember the experience of living

remember the experience of living through a world war the experience of

through a world war the experience of

through a world war the experience of living through food and gas rationing

living through food and gas rationing

living through food and gas rationing and the experience of debating whether

and the experience of debating whether

and the experience of debating whether or not dropping atomic bombs would be

or not dropping atomic bombs would be

or not dropping atomic bombs would be more horrible than the likely

more horrible than the likely

more horrible than the likely consequences of not dropping atomic

consequences of not dropping atomic

consequences of not dropping atomic bombs older people had that experience

bombs older people had that experience

bombs older people had that experience younger people don’t we can surely do

younger people don’t we can surely do

younger people don’t we can surely do better by learning from the lives of the

better by learning from the lives of the

better by learning from the lives of the elderly and traditional societies their

elderly and traditional societies their

elderly and traditional societies their lives are usually socially far richer

lives are usually socially far richer

lives are usually socially far richer than our lives

than our lives

than our lives although materially poorer their

although materially poorer their

although materially poorer their children are often perhaps usually more

children are often perhaps usually more

children are often perhaps usually more self-confident more independent more

self-confident more independent more

self-confident more independent more socially skilled more precocious than

socially skilled more precocious than

socially skilled more precocious than are our children they never die almost

are our children they never die almost

are our children they never die almost never die of diabetes heart disease high

never die of diabetes heart disease high

never die of diabetes heart disease high blood pressure stroke and the other non

blood pressure stroke and the other non

blood pressure stroke and the other non communicable diseases

communicable diseases

communicable diseases that would be the causes of death of

that would be the causes of death of

that would be the causes of death of most of us in this room today those are

most of us in this room today those are

most of us in this room today those are just some examples of what we can learn

just some examples of what we can learn

just some examples of what we can learn from traditional societies I hope that

from traditional societies I hope that

from traditional societies I hope that all of you will find it as fascinating

all of you will find it as fascinating

all of you will find it as fascinating to read in my book about traditional

to read in my book about traditional

to read in my book about traditional societies as I’ve found to live in them

societies as I’ve found to live in them

societies as I’ve found to live in them [Applause]

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