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Gwynne Dyer On Climate Change Part 2


the climate change is the single most

the climate change is the single most important problem that we’re going to

important problem that we’re going to

important problem that we’re going to deal with in our lifetime and this I

deal with in our lifetime and this I

deal with in our lifetime and this I mean isn’t particularly surprising to

mean isn’t particularly surprising to

mean isn’t particularly surprising to anyone who pays attention but you are

anyone who pays attention but you are

anyone who pays attention but you are kind of dealing in the book with more

kind of dealing in the book with more

kind of dealing in the book with more the politics involved can you just

the politics involved can you just

the politics involved can you just explain this to us a little bit we kind

explain this to us a little bit we kind

explain this to us a little bit we kind of know what happens physically at

of know what happens physically at

of know what happens physically at various you know one degree hotter two

various you know one degree hotter two

various you know one degree hotter two degrees hotter but what hasn’t got a lot

degrees hotter but what hasn’t got a lot

degrees hotter but what hasn’t got a lot of attention is what happens politically

of attention is what happens politically

of attention is what happens politically what happened strategically for example

what happened strategically for example

what happened strategically for example Australia is the driest continent so if

Australia is the driest continent so if

Australia is the driest continent so if it’s going to be the effect of this sort

it’s going to be the effect of this sort

it’s going to be the effect of this sort that’s where you’d effective a shawl

that’s where you’d effective a shawl

that’s where you’d effective a shawl first and they are showing up or at

first and they are showing up or at

first and they are showing up or at least that’s what Australians are coming

least that’s what Australians are coming

least that’s what Australians are coming to think they’re in the seventh year

to think they’re in the seventh year

to think they’re in the seventh year what they call the big dry they’re

what they call the big dry they’re

what they call the big dry they’re beginning to suspect and they’re pretty

beginning to suspect and they’re pretty

beginning to suspect and they’re pretty well convinced that this is not an

well convinced that this is not an

well convinced that this is not an ordinary drop because the droughts and

ordinary drop because the droughts and

ordinary drop because the droughts and right maybeee this is climate change in

right maybeee this is climate change in

right maybeee this is climate change in which case this is the new normal and

which case this is the new normal and

which case this is the new normal and we’re we’re not going back to what

we’re we’re not going back to what

we’re we’re not going back to what normally happens at the end of drought 3

normally happens at the end of drought 3

normally happens at the end of drought 3 is not coming back that huge export

is not coming back that huge export

is not coming back that huge export industry that was inland Australia

industry that was inland Australia

industry that was inland Australia murray-darling Basin it’s on where they

murray-darling Basin it’s on where they

murray-darling Basin it’s on where they grew the weed and on the other grain

grew the weed and on the other grain

grew the weed and on the other grain that they exported that have asia with

that they exported that have asia with

that they exported that have asia with these out of commission indonesia and

these out of commission indonesia and

these out of commission indonesia and the philippines which can write north of

the philippines which can write north of

the philippines which can write north of Australia they’re going to be drying out

Australia they’re going to be drying out

Australia they’re going to be drying out too and so the Australians have just

too and so the Australians have just

too and so the Australians have just actually bought a whole new fleet of

actually bought a whole new fleet of

actually bought a whole new fleet of ocean-going patrol vessels because they

ocean-going patrol vessels because they

ocean-going patrol vessels because they can see waves of people fleeing south

can see waves of people fleeing south

can see waves of people fleeing south from farms and no longer produce to

from farms and no longer produce to

from farms and no longer produce to Australia where there might be work take

Australia where there might be work take

Australia where there might be work take two or three more regions out and you

two or three more regions out and you

two or three more regions out and you got an overall world food shortage mr.

got an overall world food shortage mr.

got an overall world food shortage mr. Obama is promising to get the us back to

Obama is promising to get the us back to

Obama is promising to get the us back to 1990 levels of

1990 levels of

1990 levels of by 2020 there may be plenty of room for

by 2020 there may be plenty of room for

by 2020 there may be plenty of room for debate as to how we transition from

debate as to how we transition from

debate as to how we transition from fossil fuels to renewable fuels we all

fossil fuels to renewable fuels we all

fossil fuels to renewable fuels we all understand there’s no silver bullet to

understand there’s no silver bullet to

understand there’s no silver bullet to do it but there’s no question that we

do it but there’s no question that we

do it but there’s no question that we must do all these things and he’s

must do all these things and he’s

must do all these things and he’s promising eighty percent cuts American

promising eighty percent cuts American

promising eighty percent cuts American emissions by 2050 the game’s over by

emissions by 2050 the game’s over by

emissions by 2050 the game’s over by 2030 that’s way too late guys what

2030 that’s way too late guys what

2030 that’s way too late guys what you’re promising is that you won’t be

you’re promising is that you won’t be

you’re promising is that you won’t be worse than you were you know 20 years

worse than you were you know 20 years

worse than you were you know 20 years ago if you give it if you give us

ago if you give it if you give us

ago if you give it if you give us another 10 years that’s not good enough

another 10 years that’s not good enough

another 10 years that’s not good enough are people sufficiently scared if you go

are people sufficiently scared if you go

are people sufficiently scared if you go somewhere above two degrees but probably

somewhere above two degrees but probably

somewhere above two degrees but probably well before three you start melting the

well before three you start melting the

well before three you start melting the permafrost an enormous amounts of carbon

permafrost an enormous amounts of carbon

permafrost an enormous amounts of carbon dioxide and methane which is even worse

dioxide and methane which is even worse

dioxide and methane which is even worse guys for warming come out I mean there’s

guys for warming come out I mean there’s

guys for warming come out I mean there’s enough carbon dioxide locked up in the

enough carbon dioxide locked up in the

enough carbon dioxide locked up in the permafrost to double the amount of

permafrost to double the amount of

permafrost to double the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now

carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now

carbon dioxide in the atmosphere now these are feedbacks and can’t throw you

these are feedbacks and can’t throw you

these are feedbacks and can’t throw you can’t cool calm permafrost back down you

can’t cool calm permafrost back down you

can’t cool calm permafrost back down you can’t Julio shins here expect down you

can’t Julio shins here expect down you

can’t Julio shins here expect down you could get your own emissions down to

could get your own emissions down to

could get your own emissions down to zero sometime later and it wouldn’t stop

zero sometime later and it wouldn’t stop

zero sometime later and it wouldn’t stop the warming because it’s taken over

the warming because it’s taken over

the warming because it’s taken over nature natural processes so you know for

nature natural processes so you know for

nature natural processes so you know for those two reasons you mustn’t go past we

those two reasons you mustn’t go past we

those two reasons you mustn’t go past we talk so there is a deadline we need

talk so there is a deadline we need

talk so there is a deadline we need people to be scared because you know

people to be scared because you know

people to be scared because you know fear moves people it got you don’t get

fear moves people it got you don’t get

fear moves people it got you don’t get some moving and we do need to move

some moving and we do need to move

some moving and we do need to move pretty fast on this stone

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