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The Future of Climate Change


from flooding to wildfires to migration

from flooding to wildfires to migration climate change is not only a fat but

climate change is not only a fat but

climate change is not only a fat but it’s proving to be an immediate concern

it’s proving to be an immediate concern

it’s proving to be an immediate concern hey welcome to watchmojo.com i’m your

hey welcome to watchmojo.com i’m your

hey welcome to watchmojo.com i’m your host derek allen and today we had the

host derek allen and today we had the

host derek allen and today we had the chance to speak to climate model or

chance to speak to climate model or

chance to speak to climate model or Gavin Schmidt to address these issues so

Gavin Schmidt to address these issues so

Gavin Schmidt to address these issues so you’re a climatologist and also a

you’re a climatologist and also a

you’re a climatologist and also a climate modeler can you explain to us

climate modeler can you explain to us

climate modeler can you explain to us what climate modeling is we don’t have

what climate modeling is we don’t have

what climate modeling is we don’t have like a hundred different earths that we

like a hundred different earths that we

like a hundred different earths that we can play around with we just have one so

can play around with we just have one so

can play around with we just have one so what we need are analogs we need kind of

what we need are analogs we need kind of

what we need are analogs we need kind of computer models digital numerical models

computer models digital numerical models

computer models digital numerical models that we can poke and products we look at

that we can poke and products we look at

that we can poke and products we look at all the processes that are going on in

all the processes that are going on in

all the processes that are going on in the plan on on the planet so evaporation

the plan on on the planet so evaporation

the plan on on the planet so evaporation of water from the oceans the formation

of water from the oceans the formation

of water from the oceans the formation of clouds rainfall the winds pushing the

of clouds rainfall the winds pushing the

of clouds rainfall the winds pushing the ocean currents around we can put it all

ocean currents around we can put it all

ocean currents around we can put it all together and then we can see whether

together and then we can see whether

together and then we can see whether what we produce actually looks like the

what we produce actually looks like the

what we produce actually looks like the real world in terms of climate change

real world in terms of climate change

real world in terms of climate change and the environment how do you take into

and the environment how do you take into

and the environment how do you take into account what we are doing to the planet

account what we are doing to the planet

account what we are doing to the planet we’ve been chopping down forests and

we’ve been chopping down forests and

we’ve been chopping down forests and planting crops well that changes how

planting crops well that changes how

planting crops well that changes how much the sunlight is being reflected and

much the sunlight is being reflected and

much the sunlight is being reflected and how the evaporation through the trees is

how the evaporation through the trees is

how the evaporation through the trees is being changed we’ve added greenhouse

being changed we’ve added greenhouse

being changed we’ve added greenhouse gases to the atmosphere we’ve added

gases to the atmosphere we’ve added

gases to the atmosphere we’ve added about thirty percent more carbon dioxide

about thirty percent more carbon dioxide

about thirty percent more carbon dioxide we’ve doubled or more the amount of

we’ve doubled or more the amount of

we’ve doubled or more the amount of methane in the atmosphere they’ve made

methane in the atmosphere they’ve made

methane in the atmosphere they’ve made most of the difference in the last few

most of the difference in the last few

most of the difference in the last few decades and particularly the last three

decades and particularly the last three

decades and particularly the last three decades of global warming it is obvious

decades of global warming it is obvious

decades of global warming it is obvious that humans are in some way a part of

that humans are in some way a part of

that humans are in some way a part of the problem how we’re able to support

the problem how we’re able to support

the problem how we’re able to support this claim different causes of change

this claim different causes of change

this claim different causes of change have different fingerprints in the

have different fingerprints in the

have different fingerprints in the system so for instance if the sun gets

system so for instance if the sun gets

system so for instance if the sun gets brighter or dimmer and it does it has an

brighter or dimmer and it does it has an

brighter or dimmer and it does it has an 11-year cycle it gets it gets slightly

11-year cycle it gets it gets slightly

11-year cycle it gets it gets slightly brighter side dinner or what that does

brighter side dinner or what that does

brighter side dinner or what that does is it heats up the whole atmosphere from

is it heats up the whole atmosphere from

is it heats up the whole atmosphere from the bottom all the way up to the top

the bottom all the way up to the top

the bottom all the way up to the top greenhouse gases have a different

greenhouse gases have a different

greenhouse gases have a different signature so they heat up the bottom but

signature so they heat up the bottom but

signature so they heat up the bottom but I actually call the top and so if you

I actually call the top and so if you

I actually call the top and so if you look for specific patterns that are

look for specific patterns that are

look for specific patterns that are associated with specific forcing

associated with specific forcing

associated with specific forcing elements office specific drivers then

elements office specific drivers then

elements office specific drivers then you can see whether you know what we

you can see whether you know what we

you can see whether you know what we thought of as being the cause actually

thought of as being the cause actually

thought of as being the cause actually is the course so we can do this kind of

is the course so we can do this kind of

is the course so we can do this kind of pattern recognition and build a kind of

pattern recognition and build a kind of

pattern recognition and build a kind of a balance of evidence so you mentioned

a balance of evidence so you mentioned

a balance of evidence so you mentioned some of the symptoms that we’ve seen in

some of the symptoms that we’ve seen in

some of the symptoms that we’ve seen in the past and we’re seeing now what can

the past and we’re seeing now what can

the past and we’re seeing now what can we expect in the future in the American

we expect in the future in the American

we expect in the future in the American Southwest for instance we anticipate

Southwest for instance we anticipate

Southwest for instance we anticipate that it’s going to get drier

that it’s going to get drier

that it’s going to get drier we’re going to get more intense rain so

we’re going to get more intense rain so

we’re going to get more intense rain so that leads to more flooding wildfires

that leads to more flooding wildfires

that leads to more flooding wildfires that depends on moisture availability

that depends on moisture availability

that depends on moisture availability during the summertime particularly we’re

during the summertime particularly we’re

during the summertime particularly we’re going to see pests and invasive species

going to see pests and invasive species

going to see pests and invasive species kind of moving poleward moving further

kind of moving poleward moving further

kind of moving poleward moving further north out of where they used to live and

north out of where they used to live and

north out of where they used to live and to higher latitudes we’re already seeing

to higher latitudes we’re already seeing

to higher latitudes we’re already seeing that with the pine bark beetle in

that with the pine bark beetle in

that with the pine bark beetle in British Columbia that’s devastating pine

British Columbia that’s devastating pine

British Columbia that’s devastating pine forests there so during some of our

forests there so during some of our

forests there so during some of our research we saw you often called an

research we saw you often called an

research we saw you often called an alarmist how would you go about

alarmist how would you go about

alarmist how would you go about explaining why people tell you this I am

explaining why people tell you this I am

explaining why people tell you this I am one of the people who isn’t afraid to

one of the people who isn’t afraid to

one of the people who isn’t afraid to put their head above the parapet and say

put their head above the parapet and say

put their head above the parapet and say look you know this is what the science

look you know this is what the science

look you know this is what the science shows though warming is real it’s been

shows though warming is real it’s been

shows though warming is real it’s been caused by humans and it’s very likely to

caused by humans and it’s very likely to

caused by humans and it’s very likely to get worse

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