
from flooding to wildfires to migration climate change is not only a fat but
climate change is not only a fat but
climate change is not only a fat but it’s proving to be an immediate concern
it’s proving to be an immediate concern
it’s proving to be an immediate concern hey welcome to watchmojo.com i’m your
hey welcome to watchmojo.com i’m your
hey welcome to watchmojo.com i’m your host derek allen and today we had the
host derek allen and today we had the
host derek allen and today we had the chance to speak to climate model or
chance to speak to climate model or
chance to speak to climate model or Gavin Schmidt to address these issues so
Gavin Schmidt to address these issues so
Gavin Schmidt to address these issues so you’re a climatologist and also a
you’re a climatologist and also a
you’re a climatologist and also a climate modeler can you explain to us
climate modeler can you explain to us
climate modeler can you explain to us what climate modeling is we don’t have
what climate modeling is we don’t have
what climate modeling is we don’t have like a hundred different earths that we
like a hundred different earths that we
like a hundred different earths that we can play around with we just have one so
can play around with we just have one so
can play around with we just have one so what we need are analogs we need kind of
what we need are analogs we need kind of
what we need are analogs we need kind of computer models digital numerical models
computer models digital numerical models
computer models digital numerical models that we can poke and products we look at
that we can poke and products we look at
that we can poke and products we look at all the processes that are going on in
all the processes that are going on in
all the processes that are going on in the plan on on the planet so evaporation
the plan on on the planet so evaporation
the plan on on the planet so evaporation of water from the oceans the formation
of water from the oceans the formation
of water from the oceans the formation of clouds rainfall the winds pushing the
of clouds rainfall the winds pushing the
of clouds rainfall the winds pushing the ocean currents around we can put it all
ocean currents around we can put it all
ocean currents around we can put it all together and then we can see whether
together and then we can see whether
together and then we can see whether what we produce actually looks like the
what we produce actually looks like the
what we produce actually looks like the real world in terms of climate change
real world in terms of climate change
real world in terms of climate change and the environment how do you take into
and the environment how do you take into
and the environment how do you take into account what we are doing to the planet
account what we are doing to the planet
account what we are doing to the planet we’ve been chopping down forests and
we’ve been chopping down forests and
we’ve been chopping down forests and planting crops well that changes how
planting crops well that changes how
planting crops well that changes how much the sunlight is being reflected and
much the sunlight is being reflected and
much the sunlight is being reflected and how the evaporation through the trees is
how the evaporation through the trees is
how the evaporation through the trees is being changed we’ve added greenhouse
being changed we’ve added greenhouse
being changed we’ve added greenhouse gases to the atmosphere we’ve added
gases to the atmosphere we’ve added
gases to the atmosphere we’ve added about thirty percent more carbon dioxide
about thirty percent more carbon dioxide
about thirty percent more carbon dioxide we’ve doubled or more the amount of
we’ve doubled or more the amount of
we’ve doubled or more the amount of methane in the atmosphere they’ve made
methane in the atmosphere they’ve made
methane in the atmosphere they’ve made most of the difference in the last few
most of the difference in the last few
most of the difference in the last few decades and particularly the last three
decades and particularly the last three
decades and particularly the last three decades of global warming it is obvious
decades of global warming it is obvious
decades of global warming it is obvious that humans are in some way a part of
that humans are in some way a part of
that humans are in some way a part of the problem how we’re able to support
the problem how we’re able to support
the problem how we’re able to support this claim different causes of change
this claim different causes of change
this claim different causes of change have different fingerprints in the
have different fingerprints in the
have different fingerprints in the system so for instance if the sun gets
system so for instance if the sun gets
system so for instance if the sun gets brighter or dimmer and it does it has an
brighter or dimmer and it does it has an
brighter or dimmer and it does it has an 11-year cycle it gets it gets slightly
11-year cycle it gets it gets slightly
11-year cycle it gets it gets slightly brighter side dinner or what that does
brighter side dinner or what that does
brighter side dinner or what that does is it heats up the whole atmosphere from
is it heats up the whole atmosphere from
is it heats up the whole atmosphere from the bottom all the way up to the top
the bottom all the way up to the top
the bottom all the way up to the top greenhouse gases have a different
greenhouse gases have a different
greenhouse gases have a different signature so they heat up the bottom but
signature so they heat up the bottom but
signature so they heat up the bottom but I actually call the top and so if you
I actually call the top and so if you
I actually call the top and so if you look for specific patterns that are
look for specific patterns that are
look for specific patterns that are associated with specific forcing
associated with specific forcing
associated with specific forcing elements office specific drivers then
elements office specific drivers then
elements office specific drivers then you can see whether you know what we
you can see whether you know what we
you can see whether you know what we thought of as being the cause actually
thought of as being the cause actually
thought of as being the cause actually is the course so we can do this kind of
is the course so we can do this kind of
is the course so we can do this kind of pattern recognition and build a kind of
pattern recognition and build a kind of
pattern recognition and build a kind of a balance of evidence so you mentioned
a balance of evidence so you mentioned
a balance of evidence so you mentioned some of the symptoms that we’ve seen in
some of the symptoms that we’ve seen in
some of the symptoms that we’ve seen in the past and we’re seeing now what can
the past and we’re seeing now what can
the past and we’re seeing now what can we expect in the future in the American
we expect in the future in the American
we expect in the future in the American Southwest for instance we anticipate
Southwest for instance we anticipate
Southwest for instance we anticipate that it’s going to get drier
that it’s going to get drier
that it’s going to get drier we’re going to get more intense rain so
we’re going to get more intense rain so
we’re going to get more intense rain so that leads to more flooding wildfires
that leads to more flooding wildfires
that leads to more flooding wildfires that depends on moisture availability
that depends on moisture availability
that depends on moisture availability during the summertime particularly we’re
during the summertime particularly we’re
during the summertime particularly we’re going to see pests and invasive species
going to see pests and invasive species
going to see pests and invasive species kind of moving poleward moving further
kind of moving poleward moving further
kind of moving poleward moving further north out of where they used to live and
north out of where they used to live and
north out of where they used to live and to higher latitudes we’re already seeing
to higher latitudes we’re already seeing
to higher latitudes we’re already seeing that with the pine bark beetle in
that with the pine bark beetle in
that with the pine bark beetle in British Columbia that’s devastating pine
British Columbia that’s devastating pine
British Columbia that’s devastating pine forests there so during some of our
forests there so during some of our
forests there so during some of our research we saw you often called an
research we saw you often called an
research we saw you often called an alarmist how would you go about
alarmist how would you go about
alarmist how would you go about explaining why people tell you this I am
explaining why people tell you this I am
explaining why people tell you this I am one of the people who isn’t afraid to
one of the people who isn’t afraid to
one of the people who isn’t afraid to put their head above the parapet and say
put their head above the parapet and say
put their head above the parapet and say look you know this is what the science
look you know this is what the science
look you know this is what the science shows though warming is real it’s been
shows though warming is real it’s been
shows though warming is real it’s been caused by humans and it’s very likely to
caused by humans and it’s very likely to
caused by humans and it’s very likely to get worse
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