
this gentleman is probably the most intelligent person that you’ve never
intelligent person that you’ve never
intelligent person that you’ve never heard of he taught himself to read when
heard of he taught himself to read when
heard of he taught himself to read when he was 18 months old he left school at
he was 18 months old he left school at
he was 18 months old he left school at 11
11
11 graduated at 14 and he got his PhD from
graduated at 14 and he got his PhD from
graduated at 14 and he got his PhD from Harvard when he was the attained now
Harvard when he was the attained now
Harvard when he was the attained now some of you are thinking wow who would
some of you are thinking wow who would
some of you are thinking wow who would have thought that the Kentucky Fried
have thought that the Kentucky Fried
have thought that the Kentucky Fried Chicken mom was so smart this is not
Chicken mom was so smart this is not
Chicken mom was so smart this is not Colonel Sanders this man’s real name and
Colonel Sanders this man’s real name and
Colonel Sanders this man’s real name and I kid you not this is actually his real
I kid you not this is actually his real
I kid you not this is actually his real name Norbert Wiener which I suspect may
name Norbert Wiener which I suspect may
name Norbert Wiener which I suspect may be part of the reason why he was so keen
be part of the reason why he was so keen
be part of the reason why he was so keen to get through school anyway he was
to get through school anyway he was
to get through school anyway he was mathematical genius and during the
mathematical genius and during the
mathematical genius and during the Second World War the American military
Second World War the American military
Second World War the American military approached him and asked him to solve a
approached him and asked him to solve a
approached him and asked him to solve a mathematical problem and the problem was
mathematical problem and the problem was
mathematical problem and the problem was this how do you shoot down an aeroplane
this how do you shoot down an aeroplane
this how do you shoot down an aeroplane when the aeroplane is traveling at a
when the aeroplane is traveling at a
when the aeroplane is traveling at a similar speed to the bullet if that’s
similar speed to the bullet if that’s
similar speed to the bullet if that’s what was starting to happen so if you
what was starting to happen so if you
what was starting to happen so if you imagine this disc is an anti-aircraft
imagine this disc is an anti-aircraft
imagine this disc is an anti-aircraft turret and you’re in a plane and I’m
turret and you’re in a plane and I’m
turret and you’re in a plane and I’m trying to shoot you down well if I just
trying to shoot you down well if I just
trying to shoot you down well if I just aim towards you by the time the bullets
aim towards you by the time the bullets
aim towards you by the time the bullets reached you you’re over there somewhere
reached you you’re over there somewhere
reached you you’re over there somewhere so where should I aim that’s the
so where should I aim that’s the
so where should I aim that’s the question and the natural way to think
question and the natural way to think
question and the natural way to think about a question like that is from the
about a question like that is from the
about a question like that is from the perspective of the turret because after
perspective of the turret because after
perspective of the turret because after all I’m the one trying to shoot you down
all I’m the one trying to shoot you down
all I’m the one trying to shoot you down right but of course your perspective as
right but of course your perspective as
right but of course your perspective as the pilot is just as important because
the pilot is just as important because
the pilot is just as important because you’re trying to avoid the bullet as
you’re trying to avoid the bullet as
you’re trying to avoid the bullet as much as I’m trying to hit your plan and
much as I’m trying to hit your plan and
much as I’m trying to hit your plan and what Norbert realized was that you can’t
what Norbert realized was that you can’t
what Norbert realized was that you can’t solve that problem from either
solve that problem from either
solve that problem from either perspective
perspective
perspective you have to find some way of zooming out
you have to find some way of zooming out
you have to find some way of zooming out and seeing both perspectives at the same
and seeing both perspectives at the same
and seeing both perspectives at the same time and when you do that you realize
time and when you do that you realize
time and when you do that you realize this is a feedback loop because I’m
this is a feedback loop because I’m
this is a feedback loop because I’m getting information from you about the
getting information from you about the
getting information from you about the direction that you’re traveling the
direction that you’re traveling the
direction that you’re traveling the plane in and you’re getting information
plane in and you’re getting information
plane in and you’re getting information from me about the direction I’m firing
from me about the direction I’m firing
from me about the direction I’m firing in now because
in now because
in now because Norbert was a really curious person and
Norbert was a really curious person and
Norbert was a really curious person and he had all these contacts at MIT that he
he had all these contacts at MIT that he
he had all these contacts at MIT that he was talking to every day he realized
was talking to every day he realized
was talking to every day he realized that this this phenomenon of feedback
that this this phenomenon of feedback
that this this phenomenon of feedback loops is universal it’s one of the most
loops is universal it’s one of the most
loops is universal it’s one of the most fundamental principles of life because
fundamental principles of life because
fundamental principles of life because if you think about it all organisms
if you think about it all organisms
if you think about it all organisms exist in an environment and they have to
exist in an environment and they have to
exist in an environment and they have to adapt to the environment to survive so
adapt to the environment to survive so
adapt to the environment to survive so we’re constantly being influenced by and
we’re constantly being influenced by and
we’re constantly being influenced by and influencing our environment that’s how
influencing our environment that’s how
influencing our environment that’s how we maintain our blood pressure and our
we maintain our blood pressure and our
we maintain our blood pressure and our body temperature it’s our managing to
body temperature it’s our managing to
body temperature it’s our managing to stand upright right now but where it
stand upright right now but where it
stand upright right now but where it gets interesting is it at a social level
gets interesting is it at a social level
gets interesting is it at a social level all of us are one another’s environment
all of us are one another’s environment
all of us are one another’s environment so if you think of what’s happening
so if you think of what’s happening
so if you think of what’s happening right now in this space from your
right now in this space from your
right now in this space from your perspective it probably feels like this
perspective it probably feels like this
perspective it probably feels like this is the ultimate in one-way communication
is the ultimate in one-way communication
is the ultimate in one-way communication because I’m doing all the talking you’re
because I’m doing all the talking you’re
because I’m doing all the talking you’re doing all the listening right what do
doing all the listening right what do
doing all the listening right what do you think from my perspective I’m trying
you think from my perspective I’m trying
you think from my perspective I’m trying to glean all the information I can about
to glean all the information I can about
to glean all the information I can about how this is going we’re trying to see am
how this is going we’re trying to see am
how this is going we’re trying to see am i making eye contact is anyone yawning
i making eye contact is anyone yawning
i making eye contact is anyone yawning did you laugh at the funny bit at the
did you laugh at the funny bit at the
did you laugh at the funny bit at the start about Kentucky Fried Chicken and
start about Kentucky Fried Chicken and
start about Kentucky Fried Chicken and that’s all affecting me it’s affecting
that’s all affecting me it’s affecting
that’s all affecting me it’s affecting my state it’s affecting my physiology
my state it’s affecting my physiology
my state it’s affecting my physiology which affects the words that I can bring
which affects the words that I can bring
which affects the words that I can bring to mind which affects the words that
to mind which affects the words that
to mind which affects the words that you’re hearing which affects how you
you’re hearing which affects how you
you’re hearing which affects how you respond and each speaker has had a
respond and each speaker has had a
respond and each speaker has had a slightly different dynamic today but
slightly different dynamic today but
slightly different dynamic today but that system is the same now imagine
that system is the same now imagine
that system is the same now imagine zooming out even further right up
zooming out even further right up
zooming out even further right up through the roof and looking down at all
through the roof and looking down at all
through the roof and looking down at all of Oxford as a system what do you see
it’s this huge complex interweaving mesh
it’s this huge complex interweaving mesh a feedback loop upon feedback loop as
a feedback loop upon feedback loop as
a feedback loop upon feedback loop as we’re constantly bumping into each other
we’re constantly bumping into each other
we’re constantly bumping into each other and working together and talking
and working together and talking
and working together and talking together and using public services
together and using public services
together and using public services society is this vast complex
society is this vast complex
society is this vast complex interweaving system and this is the key
interweaving system and this is the key
interweaving system and this is the key point Norbert wieners principle still
point Norbert wieners principle still
point Norbert wieners principle still applies remember what it was you can’t
applies remember what it was you can’t
applies remember what it was you can’t solve systemic problems from one
solve systemic problems from one
solve systemic problems from one perspective it’s very simple but very
perspective it’s very simple but very
perspective it’s very simple but very profound and you can carry on zooming up
profound and you can carry on zooming up
profound and you can carry on zooming up from the town to the country to our
from the town to the country to our
from the town to the country to our continent to our planet and the same
continent to our planet and the same
continent to our planet and the same thing applies we can’t solve systemic
thing applies we can’t solve systemic
thing applies we can’t solve systemic problems from one perspective now here’s
problems from one perspective now here’s
problems from one perspective now here’s the problem you can’t not take a
the problem you can’t not take a
the problem you can’t not take a perspective right I’m a speaker here the
perspective right I’m a speaker here the
perspective right I’m a speaker here the audience if I have a bad back and I go
audience if I have a bad back and I go
audience if I have a bad back and I go to hospital I can’t not have the
to hospital I can’t not have the
to hospital I can’t not have the perspective of being a patient because I
perspective of being a patient because I
perspective of being a patient because I have one but if one of you go to the
have one but if one of you go to the
have one but if one of you go to the hospital to try and fix my bad back
hospital to try and fix my bad back
hospital to try and fix my bad back you’re taking on the perspective of a
you’re taking on the perspective of a
you’re taking on the perspective of a doctor or a physio or whatever
doctor or a physio or whatever
doctor or a physio or whatever now something goes wrong in the hospital
now something goes wrong in the hospital
now something goes wrong in the hospital who’s got the better perspective because
who’s got the better perspective because
who’s got the better perspective because I suspect the patient and the doctor
I suspect the patient and the doctor
I suspect the patient and the doctor will have very different ideas about
will have very different ideas about
will have very different ideas about what’s going wrong well they’re both
what’s going wrong well they’re both
what’s going wrong well they’re both both gonna be right and they’re both
both gonna be right and they’re both
both gonna be right and they’re both gonna be wrong we need to find some way
gonna be wrong we need to find some way
gonna be wrong we need to find some way of zooming out and seeing the overall
of zooming out and seeing the overall
of zooming out and seeing the overall perspective of the system if we’re going
perspective of the system if we’re going
perspective of the system if we’re going to be able to talk about the problems
to be able to talk about the problems
to be able to talk about the problems that affect it let alone find solutions
that affect it let alone find solutions
that affect it let alone find solutions and this question of zooming out I
and this question of zooming out I
and this question of zooming out I believe it’s a question we’ve actually
believe it’s a question we’ve actually
believe it’s a question we’ve actually already solved once as mankind what we
already solved once as mankind what we
already solved once as mankind what we did was we invented Maps so here’s a map
of the situation at the end of the first
of the situation at the end of the first day of the d-day invasion and want you
day of the d-day invasion and want you
day of the d-day invasion and want you to imagine that all of us are generals
to imagine that all of us are generals
to imagine that all of us are generals sat around a table looking at this map
sat around a table looking at this map
sat around a table looking at this map just imagine the conversations that
just imagine the conversations that
just imagine the conversations that we’re having but where we are and where
we’re having but where we are and where
we’re having but where we are and where the enemy is where did we expect to be
the enemy is where did we expect to be
the enemy is where did we expect to be and what are our objectives and do we
and what are our objectives and do we
and what are our objectives and do we need to change your objectives and does
need to change your objectives and does
need to change your objectives and does anyone need more support and now I want
anyone need more support and now I want
anyone need more support and now I want you to try to imagine trying to have the
you to try to imagine trying to have the
you to try to imagine trying to have the same conversations in an alternative
same conversations in an alternative
same conversations in an alternative reality in which maps have never been
reality in which maps have never been
reality in which maps have never been invented you say you need some sort of
invented you say you need some sort of
invented you say you need some sort of underlying frame of reference about the
underlying frame of reference about the
underlying frame of reference about the context in which you’re talking if you
context in which you’re talking if you
context in which you’re talking if you want to be able to have a high-level
want to be able to have a high-level
want to be able to have a high-level conversation that’s meaningful and we
conversation that’s meaningful and we
conversation that’s meaningful and we don’t notice this really about maps
don’t notice this really about maps
don’t notice this really about maps because maps are so mature as a
because maps are so mature as a
because maps are so mature as a technology but nobody in 1944 was having
technology but nobody in 1944 was having
technology but nobody in 1944 was having an argument about what Normandy looked
an argument about what Normandy looked
an argument about what Normandy looked like right but where the beaches were
like right but where the beaches were
like right but where the beaches were and where the forests and the hills and
and where the forests and the hills and
and where the forests and the hills and the mountains after hundreds and
the mountains after hundreds and
the mountains after hundreds and hundreds of years of cartography we know
hundreds of years of cartography we know
hundreds of years of cartography we know what Normandy looks like so now we can
what Normandy looks like so now we can
what Normandy looks like so now we can have the conversation we want to have
have the conversation we want to have
have the conversation we want to have about where all of the different
military positions are so that’s two
military positions are so that’s two insights for you first one from Norbert
insights for you first one from Norbert
insights for you first one from Norbert Weiner that we can’t solve systemic
Weiner that we can’t solve systemic
Weiner that we can’t solve systemic problems societal problems from one
problems societal problems from one
problems societal problems from one perspective and then the insight from
perspective and then the insight from
perspective and then the insight from maps that maps give us this way of
maps that maps give us this way of
maps that maps give us this way of zooming out on having a shared frame of
zooming out on having a shared frame of
zooming out on having a shared frame of reference about what the thing is that
reference about what the thing is that
reference about what the thing is that we’re talking about so that we can have
we’re talking about so that we can have
we’re talking about so that we can have meaningful conversations about what we
meaningful conversations about what we
meaningful conversations about what we want to have happen so what happens when
want to have happen so what happens when
want to have happen so what happens when you put these two insights together
what do we need as a society and as a
what do we need as a society and as a world well I think what we need our maps
world well I think what we need our maps
world well I think what we need our maps of how society works as a system we need
of how society works as a system we need
of how society works as a system we need maps of how healthcare works and how
maps of how healthcare works and how
maps of how healthcare works and how education works we need maps of how
education works we need maps of how
education works we need maps of how central government works how central
central government works how central
central government works how central government relates to the local
government relates to the local
government relates to the local government we need maps of the electoral
government we need maps of the electoral
government we need maps of the electoral system so that I understand what
system so that I understand what
system so that I understand what actually it means when I cast a vote how
actually it means when I cast a vote how
actually it means when I cast a vote how does that affect government what’s the
does that affect government what’s the
does that affect government what’s the difference between government and
difference between government and
difference between government and Parliament how do they relate to central
Parliament how do they relate to central
Parliament how do they relate to central government how do policy decisions made
government how do policy decisions made
government how do policy decisions made their effect the services that we all
their effect the services that we all
their effect the services that we all consume see we all have different
consume see we all have different
consume see we all have different perspectives on these things but we
perspectives on these things but we
perspectives on these things but we don’t have a reference map to tell us
don’t have a reference map to tell us
don’t have a reference map to tell us what’s true what can be empirically
what’s true what can be empirically
what’s true what can be empirically validated so what would these maps look
validated so what would these maps look
validated so what would these maps look like well to be honest I’m not entirely
like well to be honest I’m not entirely
like well to be honest I’m not entirely sure what they’ll end up looking like
sure what they’ll end up looking like
sure what they’ll end up looking like because we haven’t really started making
because we haven’t really started making
because we haven’t really started making them yet but I’ve got an idea what
them yet but I’ve got an idea what
them yet but I’ve got an idea what they’re gonna start off looking like
they’re gonna start off looking like
they’re gonna start off looking like because we’ve had a stab at making one
because we’ve had a stab at making one
because we’ve had a stab at making one you like see it
okay just because it’s topical we
okay just because it’s topical we thought we’d start off by making a map
thought we’d start off by making a map
thought we’d start off by making a map of the European Union your interests
of the European Union your interests
of the European Union your interests laugh at that and if you think when you
laugh at that and if you think when you
laugh at that and if you think when you go into Google Earth and you zoom right
go into Google Earth and you zoom right
go into Google Earth and you zoom right out and see the whole of the planet this
out and see the whole of the planet this
out and see the whole of the planet this is the equivalent view of the European
is the equivalent view of the European
is the equivalent view of the European Union but just like Google Earth we can
Union but just like Google Earth we can
Union but just like Google Earth we can zoom in on different parts and see what
zoom in on different parts and see what
zoom in on different parts and see what they look like inside and see how they
they look like inside and see how they
they look like inside and see how they work I’d love to spend five minutes
work I’d love to spend five minutes
work I’d love to spend five minutes going through this and explaining to you
going through this and explaining to you
going through this and explaining to you how the EU works but instead we put the
how the EU works but instead we put the
how the EU works but instead we put the URL at the bottom so feel free to
URL at the bottom so feel free to
URL at the bottom so feel free to explore this yourselves later on what I
explore this yourselves later on what I
explore this yourselves later on what I really want to draw attention to is the
really want to draw attention to is the
really want to draw attention to is the different quality of conversation that I
different quality of conversation that I
different quality of conversation that I believe maps like this could make
believe maps like this could make
believe maps like this could make possible so if you think of the sorts of
possible so if you think of the sorts of
possible so if you think of the sorts of conversations we were trying to have
conversations we were trying to have
conversations we were trying to have last year about the European Union yeah
last year about the European Union yeah
last year about the European Union yeah is it democratic is it an invasion of
is it democratic is it an invasion of
is it democratic is it an invasion of our national sovereignty is it a waste
our national sovereignty is it a waste
our national sovereignty is it a waste of money is there too much bureaucracy
of money is there too much bureaucracy
of money is there too much bureaucracy well with a map you can start just more
well with a map you can start just more
well with a map you can start just more meaningful questions so is it democratic
meaningful questions so is it democratic
meaningful questions so is it democratic or not well if you look at the top here
or not well if you look at the top here
or not well if you look at the top here here’s the European Council the
here’s the European Council the
here’s the European Council the spiritual reason may goes off with all
spiritual reason may goes off with all
spiritual reason may goes off with all of her her counterpart Heads of
of her her counterpart Heads of
of her her counterpart Heads of Government from member states and they
Government from member states and they
Government from member states and they provide the strategic direction in to
provide the strategic direction in to
provide the strategic direction in to the European Commission which drafts the
the European Commission which drafts the
the European Commission which drafts the legislation which is then discussed down
legislation which is then discussed down
legislation which is then discussed down here by the council that’s all of the
here by the council that’s all of the
here by the council that’s all of the cabinet ministers from the different
cabinet ministers from the different
cabinet ministers from the different countries they’re all elected and the
countries they’re all elected and the
countries they’re all elected and the European Parliament who of course we get
European Parliament who of course we get
European Parliament who of course we get to elect directly once they’ve voted the
to elect directly once they’ve voted the
to elect directly once they’ve voted the legislation in the Commission is in
legislation in the Commission is in
legislation in the Commission is in charge of enforcing it so the Commission
charge of enforcing it so the Commission
charge of enforcing it so the Commission is the one bit in the whole system that
is the one bit in the whole system that
is the one bit in the whole system that is not either directly or indirectly
is not either directly or indirectly
is not either directly or indirectly elected by us but it does take its
elected by us but it does take its
elected by us but it does take its strategic direction from the council
strategic direction from the council
strategic direction from the council which is all of the heads of state it
which is all of the heads of state it
which is all of the heads of state it has a huge amount of power it’s got more
has a huge amount of power it’s got more
has a huge amount of power it’s got more civil servants than any of the other
civil servants than any of the other
civil servants than any of the other groups combined so is it sufficiently
groups combined so is it sufficiently
groups combined so is it sufficiently accountable I don’t know
accountable I don’t know
accountable I don’t know but you can see how much more of a
but you can see how much more of a
but you can see how much more of a meaningful question I’m asking how much
meaningful question I’m asking how much
meaningful question I’m asking how much more of a meaningful conversation we
more of a meaningful conversation we
more of a meaningful conversation we could be having than just everything
could be having than just everything
could be having than just everything being black or white or what about the
being black or white or what about the
being black or white or what about the question about the number of bureaucrats
question about the number of bureaucrats
question about the number of bureaucrats is this a waste of money well I know
is this a waste of money well I know
is this a waste of money well I know want to zoom in and start looking around
want to zoom in and start looking around
want to zoom in and start looking around and seeing you well which ones
and seeing you well which ones
and seeing you well which ones is anybody here looked like they’re
is anybody here looked like they’re
is anybody here looked like they’re doing anything that might be useful and
doing anything that might be useful and
doing anything that might be useful and again I don’t know the answer to that
again I don’t know the answer to that
again I don’t know the answer to that question but once again can you see how
question but once again can you see how
question but once again can you see how the conversation can become more
the conversation can become more
the conversation can become more meaningful
meaningful
meaningful now I’m only we only built this as an
now I’m only we only built this as an
now I’m only we only built this as an example to show you what could be
example to show you what could be
example to show you what could be possible what I want you to imagine is a
possible what I want you to imagine is a
possible what I want you to imagine is a world in which this Maps like these are
world in which this Maps like these are
world in which this Maps like these are just the norm where if you want to know
just the norm where if you want to know
just the norm where if you want to know how Oxford City Council works you can go
how Oxford City Council works you can go
how Oxford City Council works you can go into your map a map that’s visual like
into your map a map that’s visual like
into your map a map that’s visual like this that you can understand I want you
this that you can understand I want you
this that you can understand I want you to imagine a world in which the same
to imagine a world in which the same
to imagine a world in which the same maps are being used by policymakers in
maps are being used by policymakers in
maps are being used by policymakers in Whitehall as are being used by primary
Whitehall as are being used by primary
Whitehall as are being used by primary schoolchildren to understand how the
schoolchildren to understand how the
schoolchildren to understand how the society works that they’re growing up
society works that they’re growing up
society works that they’re growing up into can you imagine what a difference
into can you imagine what a difference
into can you imagine what a difference that would make to question time in 20
that would make to question time in 20
that would make to question time in 20 years time when those kids grow up or to
years time when those kids grow up or to
years time when those kids grow up or to political hustings or general elections
political hustings or general elections
political hustings or general elections if we all actually understood how the
if we all actually understood how the
if we all actually understood how the systems that make up society work on
systems that make up society work on
systems that make up society work on which part we play in them imagine what
which part we play in them imagine what
which part we play in them imagine what it would be like if instead of me
it would be like if instead of me
it would be like if instead of me moaning about my council tax over here
moaning about my council tax over here
moaning about my council tax over here and then magically dustbin men come and
and then magically dustbin men come and
and then magically dustbin men come and potholes are filled over here
potholes are filled over here
potholes are filled over here if I could actually trace the connection
if I could actually trace the connection
if I could actually trace the connection between the two and understand the
between the two and understand the
between the two and understand the complexity of how you get from one thing
complexity of how you get from one thing
complexity of how you get from one thing to the and up to another and I could see
to the and up to another and I could see
to the and up to another and I could see myself in the system
I’d love to say at this point that’s it
I’d love to say at this point that’s it that would change everything and walk
that would change everything and walk
that would change everything and walk offstage but truth is that wouldn’t you
offstage but truth is that wouldn’t you
offstage but truth is that wouldn’t you see there’s a deeper problem here which
see there’s a deeper problem here which
see there’s a deeper problem here which is that each of us are continually
is that each of us are continually
is that each of us are continually walking around with maps in our heads of
walking around with maps in our heads of
walking around with maps in our heads of how we believe the world works
how we believe the world works
how we believe the world works and to be honest unless we’re willing to
and to be honest unless we’re willing to
and to be honest unless we’re willing to challenge some of those maps why would
challenge some of those maps why would
challenge some of those maps why would things like this even be of interest why
things like this even be of interest why
things like this even be of interest why would we even bother looking at them
renounced all of his military research
renounced all of his military research and became a pacifist
and became a pacifist
and became a pacifist I’d like to imagine him starting off
I’d like to imagine him starting off
I’d like to imagine him starting off with this simple simple I say simple
with this simple simple I say simple
with this simple simple I say simple very complicated mathematical problem of
very complicated mathematical problem of
very complicated mathematical problem of automating a gun turret trying to figure
automating a gun turret trying to figure
automating a gun turret trying to figure out how to shoot down a plant and then
out how to shoot down a plant and then
out how to shoot down a plant and then noticing this pattern and moving out to
noticing this pattern and moving out to
noticing this pattern and moving out to these ever-expanding views of systems
these ever-expanding views of systems
these ever-expanding views of systems until eventually saw the whole world and
until eventually saw the whole world and
until eventually saw the whole world and realized the real question here is not
realized the real question here is not
realized the real question here is not how do I shoot down the plane the real
how do I shoot down the plane the real
how do I shoot down the plane the real question is why are these people trying
question is why are these people trying
question is why are these people trying to kill each other
and that’s why I think maps like this
and that’s why I think maps like this need to exist it’s two stimuli at that
need to exist it’s two stimuli at that
need to exist it’s two stimuli at that type of curiosity about how the world
type of curiosity about how the world
type of curiosity about how the world works because it’s not something that
works because it’s not something that
works because it’s not something that we’re naturally designed to do very
we’re naturally designed to do very
we’re naturally designed to do very easily let’s see this resonates at all I
tend to find when I sit down next to
tend to find when I sit down next to someone and start talking to them and I
someone and start talking to them and I
someone and start talking to them and I find that they’ve got a very different
find that they’ve got a very different
find that they’ve got a very different view of the world to mine
view of the world to mine
view of the world to mine I mean very different like yeah morally
I mean very different like yeah morally
I mean very different like yeah morally repugnant ly different after a while I
repugnant ly different after a while I
repugnant ly different after a while I stopped listening to what they’re saying
stopped listening to what they’re saying
stopped listening to what they’re saying because I have my map of the world I
because I have my map of the world I
because I have my map of the world I know they’re wrong so why would I have
know they’re wrong so why would I have
know they’re wrong so why would I have to listen to them and this map of the
to listen to them and this map of the
to listen to them and this map of the world starts to become like a gum turret
world starts to become like a gum turret
world starts to become like a gum turret I’m not listening to them anymore
I’m not listening to them anymore
I’m not listening to them anymore unlined enough all the bullets of my
unlined enough all the bullets of my
unlined enough all the bullets of my arguments right and my counter arguments
arguments right and my counter arguments
arguments right and my counter arguments are my insults of my counter insults and
are my insults of my counter insults and
are my insults of my counter insults and I am watching the trajectory of what
I am watching the trajectory of what
I am watching the trajectory of what they’re saying not really listening
they’re saying not really listening
they’re saying not really listening right because I want to shoot them down
right because I want to shoot them down
right because I want to shoot them down and the world carries on as it ever was
so the next time that happens to us I
so the next time that happens to us I thought a challenge it could be today it
thought a challenge it could be today it
thought a challenge it could be today it could be this week could be this month
could be this week could be this month
could be this week could be this month the next time that happens to us why
the next time that happens to us why
the next time that happens to us why don’t we take the risk taking the
don’t we take the risk taking the
don’t we take the risk taking the difficult step of grabbing that
difficult step of grabbing that
difficult step of grabbing that opportunity and stepping outside of our
opportunity and stepping outside of our
opportunity and stepping outside of our Maps I’m just taking a little stroll
Maps I’m just taking a little stroll
Maps I’m just taking a little stroll around in other people’s it’s very
around in other people’s it’s very
around in other people’s it’s very simple to do all you need to do is ask
simple to do all you need to do is ask
simple to do all you need to do is ask some questions I don’t mean questions
some questions I don’t mean questions
some questions I don’t mean questions like your why are you such an idiot
like your why are you such an idiot
like your why are you such an idiot I mean questions like what do you mean
I mean questions like what do you mean
I mean questions like what do you mean by that
by that
by that when you use that word I think you mean
when you use that word I think you mean
when you use that word I think you mean this but but what do you mean by that
this but but what do you mean by that
this but but what do you mean by that this this way you describe the world
this this way you describe the world
this this way you describe the world where does that come from
where does that come from
where does that come from what experiences have you heard the
what experiences have you heard the
what experiences have you heard the world that makes you believe that
because I believe that we all did that
because I believe that we all did that these maps will help but if we all did
these maps will help but if we all did
these maps will help but if we all did that together the world wouldn’t just be
that together the world wouldn’t just be
that together the world wouldn’t just be more compassionate place it would also
more compassionate place it would also
more compassionate place it would also be a more meaningful
be a more meaningful
be a more meaningful [Applause]
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