hi I’m your host Leila 4 watchmojo.com joining us Tarek Fatah author of chasing
joining us Tarek Fatah author of chasing
joining us Tarek Fatah author of chasing a mirage to discuss the tragic illusion
a mirage to discuss the tragic illusion
a mirage to discuss the tragic illusion of an Islamic state so in your own words
of an Islamic state so in your own words
of an Islamic state so in your own words what is a Muslim vs. an Islamist a
what is a Muslim vs. an Islamist a
what is a Muslim vs. an Islamist a Muslim is someone who believes in the 5
Muslim is someone who believes in the 5
Muslim is someone who believes in the 5 commandments of the prophet and the
commandments of the prophet and the
commandments of the prophet and the Quran which are very simple which is the
Quran which are very simple which is the
Quran which are very simple which is the belief in the unity of God the fact that
belief in the unity of God the fact that
belief in the unity of God the fact that we all required to pay a wealth tax at
we all required to pay a wealth tax at
we all required to pay a wealth tax at the end of every year to the poor one
the end of every year to the poor one
the end of every year to the poor one month a year for 30 days we fast to show
month a year for 30 days we fast to show
month a year for 30 days we fast to show solidarity with the blue and hungry if
solidarity with the blue and hungry if
solidarity with the blue and hungry if wealth permits once in lifetime we go to
wealth permits once in lifetime we go to
wealth permits once in lifetime we go to Hajj and on a daily basis pray to God
Hajj and on a daily basis pray to God
Hajj and on a daily basis pray to God whenever type some five times a day but
whenever type some five times a day but
whenever type some five times a day but all these five requirements do not
all these five requirements do not
all these five requirements do not require political entity that is a
require political entity that is a
require political entity that is a Muslim an Islamist is someone who uses
Muslim an Islamist is someone who uses
Muslim an Islamist is someone who uses the identities of Islam and in fact then
the identities of Islam and in fact then
the identities of Islam and in fact then goes on to say we can’t do this without
goes on to say we can’t do this without
goes on to say we can’t do this without having a political authority and so the
having a political authority and so the
having a political authority and so the use of Islam as a political tool is what
use of Islam as a political tool is what
use of Islam as a political tool is what makes a Muslim into an Islamist you
makes a Muslim into an Islamist you
makes a Muslim into an Islamist you comment on the conflict that occurred
comment on the conflict that occurred
comment on the conflict that occurred early after the prophets death in 632
early after the prophets death in 632
early after the prophets death in 632 and you mentioned that there are
and you mentioned that there are
and you mentioned that there are competing narratives so how can we
competing narratives so how can we
competing narratives so how can we determine the most accurate accounts one
determine the most accurate accounts one
determine the most accurate accounts one way is to give reading to all accounts
way is to give reading to all accounts
way is to give reading to all accounts we don’t know which one is the right
we don’t know which one is the right
we don’t know which one is the right account we need to accept how many
account we need to accept how many
account we need to accept how many accounts are there and we need to study
accounts are there and we need to study
accounts are there and we need to study Islamic history as the subject of
Islamic history as the subject of
Islamic history as the subject of history not as a subject of faith if the
history not as a subject of faith if the
history not as a subject of faith if the two main narratives are unfortunately
two main narratives are unfortunately
two main narratives are unfortunately divided in security in terms as the Shia
divided in security in terms as the Shia
divided in security in terms as the Shia and the Sunni the fact remains that once
and the Sunni the fact remains that once
and the Sunni the fact remains that once the Prophet died he was in the his own
the Prophet died he was in the his own
the Prophet died he was in the his own house and instead of looking after
house and instead of looking after
house and instead of looking after would be done about his funeral or
would be done about his funeral or
would be done about his funeral or giving him his last rites everybody
giving him his last rites everybody
giving him his last rites everybody rushed off to a place a few miles away
rushed off to a place a few miles away
rushed off to a place a few miles away where the people of madinah had gathered
where the people of madinah had gathered
where the people of madinah had gathered and were deciding to nominally elect one
and were deciding to nominally elect one
and were deciding to nominally elect one of their own as the leader of the
of their own as the leader of the
of their own as the leader of the Muslims the other thing is the Prophet
Muslims the other thing is the Prophet
Muslims the other thing is the Prophet never asked for a succession the Quran
never asked for a succession the Quran
never asked for a succession the Quran didn’t say that Muslims need to create a
didn’t say that Muslims need to create a
didn’t say that Muslims need to create a physical entity which is a political
physical entity which is a political
physical entity which is a political state there’s nothing wrong with them
state there’s nothing wrong with them
state there’s nothing wrong with them creating that but my contention is it
creating that but my contention is it
creating that but my contention is it had more of an Arab first characteristic
had more of an Arab first characteristic
had more of an Arab first characteristic than an Islamic characteristic
than an Islamic characteristic
than an Islamic characteristic questioning clergy involves taking risks
questioning clergy involves taking risks
questioning clergy involves taking risks a lot of people aren’t willing to take
a lot of people aren’t willing to take
a lot of people aren’t willing to take so then what are the risks of remaining
so then what are the risks of remaining
so then what are the risks of remaining complacent well the risk of remaining
complacent well the risk of remaining
complacent well the risk of remaining complacent is that my fate will be the
complacent is that my fate will be the
complacent is that my fate will be the hands of the people who are least
hands of the people who are least
hands of the people who are least respect these are people who despite
respect these are people who despite
respect these are people who despite coming to Canada and the United States
coming to Canada and the United States
coming to Canada and the United States despite living over here still take the
despite living over here still take the
despite living over here still take the inspiration from a terrible societies
inspiration from a terrible societies
inspiration from a terrible societies where the human spirit gets crushed they
where the human spirit gets crushed they
where the human spirit gets crushed they propagate misogyny the second-class
propagate misogyny the second-class
propagate misogyny the second-class status of women they practice homophobia
status of women they practice homophobia
status of women they practice homophobia by declaring gays and lesbians as worthy
by declaring gays and lesbians as worthy
by declaring gays and lesbians as worthy of death and then have the audacity to
of death and then have the audacity to
of death and then have the audacity to come on television and say oh no we give
come on television and say oh no we give
come on television and say oh no we give equal treatment to women women who we
equal treatment to women women who we
equal treatment to women women who we sent to the back of the bus so in the
sent to the back of the bus so in the
sent to the back of the bus so in the basement in a mosque for the last row we
basement in a mosque for the last row we
basement in a mosque for the last row we do so because we respect them you think
do so because we respect them you think
do so because we respect them you think anyone’s buying that long before we
anyone’s buying that long before we
anyone’s buying that long before we asked any non-muslim to understand about
asked any non-muslim to understand about
asked any non-muslim to understand about Islam Muslims need to understand Islam
Islam Muslims need to understand Islam
Islam Muslims need to understand Islam before that they need to share all the
before that they need to share all the
before that they need to share all the superstitious magical
superstitious magical
superstitious magical grow axe that they think is part of
grow axe that they think is part of
grow axe that they think is part of Islam and get back to the five basic
Islam and get back to the five basic
Islam and get back to the five basic things which is pea charity donate
things which is pea charity donate
things which is pea charity donate something do something good and if they
something do something good and if they
something do something good and if they really want to be respected clear the
really want to be respected clear the
really want to be respected clear the neighbors ice during a nice strong like
neighbors ice during a nice strong like
neighbors ice during a nice strong like you say bring them back to piety not
you say bring them back to piety not
you say bring them back to piety not politics
politics
politics absolutely
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