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Business Q&A + League of Legends Ep. #47 ft. @ThisIsMuch


all right everybody welcome to another

all right everybody welcome to another business Q&A really excited to be back

business Q&A really excited to be back

business Q&A really excited to be back on with you guys today it is tuesday i

on with you guys today it is tuesday i

on with you guys today it is tuesday i am happy i am queuing up with j reyez

am happy i am queuing up with j reyez

am happy i am queuing up with j reyez I’m trying we’re good to try our

I’m trying we’re good to try our

I’m trying we’re good to try our experiment again that we started

experiment again that we started

experiment again that we started yesterday that we didn’t quite nail so

yesterday that we didn’t quite nail so

yesterday that we didn’t quite nail so we’re gonna see if we can get it on

we’re gonna see if we can get it on

we’re gonna see if we can get it on today but super exciting guys we have a

today but super exciting guys we have a

today but super exciting guys we have a special guest co-hosting with me today

special guest co-hosting with me today

special guest co-hosting with me today Rishi is in the chat but on the call

Rishi is in the chat but on the call

Rishi is in the chat but on the call with me today is our surprise guest

with me today is our surprise guest

with me today is our surprise guest Jennifer price welcome aboard Jen how

Jennifer price welcome aboard Jen how

Jennifer price welcome aboard Jen how you doing whoa good morning I’m doing

you doing whoa good morning I’m doing

you doing whoa good morning I’m doing great thank you Jim it is a it is six in

great thank you Jim it is a it is six in

great thank you Jim it is a it is six in the morning on the west coast she’s

the morning on the west coast she’s

the morning on the west coast she’s sobbing in sniper Lee over here now

sobbing in sniper Lee over here now

sobbing in sniper Lee over here now usually I’ll ask Rishi uh what’s in her

usually I’ll ask Rishi uh what’s in her

usually I’ll ask Rishi uh what’s in her cup because compass or one word but

cup because compass or one word but

cup because compass or one word but Jen’s one word is fantasy so so what’s

Jen’s one word is fantasy so so what’s

Jen’s one word is fantasy so so what’s your fantasy of the day today Jen well I

your fantasy of the day today Jen well I

your fantasy of the day today Jen well I have a lot of fun stuff going on today

have a lot of fun stuff going on today

have a lot of fun stuff going on today I’ve actually leaving a little bit later

I’ve actually leaving a little bit later

I’ve actually leaving a little bit later this afternoon to go see a friend in LA

this afternoon to go see a friend in LA

this afternoon to go see a friend in LA so that were really exciting I know and

so that were really exciting I know and

so that were really exciting I know and and as usual I have a little bit of

and as usual I have a little bit of

and as usual I have a little bit of chocolate here with me to start my day

chocolate here with me to start my day

chocolate here with me to start my day right my favorite missionary chocolate

right my favorite missionary chocolate

right my favorite missionary chocolate she makes this amazing lemon truffle she

she makes this amazing lemon truffle she

she makes this amazing lemon truffle she calls it lemon explosion and it’s so

calls it lemon explosion and it’s so

calls it lemon explosion and it’s so delicious though and you know because

delicious though and you know because

delicious though and you know because it’s the day after Halloween all of

it’s the day after Halloween all of

it’s the day after Halloween all of y’all can definitely enjoy chocolate as

y’all can definitely enjoy chocolate as

y’all can definitely enjoy chocolate as much as I can this morning you should be

much as I can this morning you should be

much as I can this morning you should be able to it should be a lot easier have a

able to it should be a lot easier have a

able to it should be a lot easier have a little pleasure in the morning than

little pleasure in the morning than

little pleasure in the morning than usual Hayden has a huge bag of chocolate

usual Hayden has a huge bag of chocolate

usual Hayden has a huge bag of chocolate here and it’s very tempting but let’s

here and it’s very tempting but let’s

here and it’s very tempting but let’s see yeah I definitely definitely think

see yeah I definitely definitely think

see yeah I definitely definitely think that you should sneak into that bag and

that you should sneak into that bag and

that you should sneak into that bag and get a piece of chocolate for yourself

get a piece of chocolate for yourself

get a piece of chocolate for yourself there Evan well he gave me permission he

there Evan well he gave me permission he

there Evan well he gave me permission he gave me permission so that’s the good

gave me permission so that’s the good

gave me permission so that’s the good news good that’s good that’s a good kid

news good that’s good that’s a good kid

news good that’s good that’s a good kid for you so Rishi will then get us into a

for you so Rishi will then get us into a

for you so Rishi will then get us into a quote or thought to lead us off what do

quote or thought to lead us off what do

quote or thought to lead us off what do you what do you know about this morning

you what do you know about this morning

you what do you know about this morning so I got a quote ready i actually got a

so I got a quote ready i actually got a

so I got a quote ready i actually got a quote ready for y’all because I you know

quote ready for y’all because I you know

quote ready for y’all because I you know i watch once in a while the free she so

i watch once in a while the free she so

i watch once in a while the free she so thank you reaching for all your awesome

thank you reaching for all your awesome

thank you reaching for all your awesome advice on helping deb co-host the

advice on helping deb co-host the

advice on helping deb co-host the morning so my quote is from Charles

morning so my quote is from Charles

morning so my quote is from Charles Dickens and it is this there is nothing

Dickens and it is this there is nothing

Dickens and it is this there is nothing better than a friend unless is a friend

better than a friend unless is a friend

better than a friend unless is a friend with chocolate like it that’s not great

with chocolate like it that’s not great

with chocolate like it that’s not great Charles Duke obviously it’s an amazing

Charles Duke obviously it’s an amazing

Charles Duke obviously it’s an amazing author but he enjoyed chocolate like I

author but he enjoyed chocolate like I

author but he enjoyed chocolate like I do yeah and for those you guys watching

do yeah and for those you guys watching

do yeah and for those you guys watching Jen eats chocolate every morning it’s

Jen eats chocolate every morning it’s

Jen eats chocolate every morning it’s part of her breakfast tradition

part of her breakfast tradition

part of her breakfast tradition chocolate l’amour do you figure I that I

chocolate l’amour do you figure I that I

chocolate l’amour do you figure I that I think you do right did you make a video

think you do right did you make a video

think you do right did you make a video on that I did I think a video on that

on that I did I think a video on that

on that I did I think a video on that when I was doing my book videos so i

when I was doing my book videos so i

when I was doing my book videos so i should do another one of those pretty

should do another one of those pretty

should do another one of those pretty soon i think that’s a good I could talk

soon i think that’s a good I could talk

soon i think that’s a good I could talk about all the amazing different

about all the amazing different

about all the amazing different chocolates that are here in Portland

chocolates that are here in Portland

chocolates that are here in Portland there’s so many great chocolate

there’s so many great chocolate

there’s so many great chocolate companies they’re very glad are you

companies they’re very glad are you

companies they’re very glad are you living here very cool all right well I

living here very cool all right well I

living here very cool all right well I am lined up as timo support we’re trying

am lined up as timo support we’re trying

am lined up as timo support we’re trying to get JR eyes on heimer for the botlane

to get JR eyes on heimer for the botlane

to get JR eyes on heimer for the botlane in our continued experiment and we’ll

in our continued experiment and we’ll

in our continued experiment and we’ll see how it goes but let’s get into our

see how it goes but let’s get into our

see how it goes but let’s get into our first question what do we got all right

first question what do we got all right

first question what do we got all right well we’ve got a question from

well we’ve got a question from

well we’ve got a question from yesterday’s chat which we didn’t get a

yesterday’s chat which we didn’t get a

yesterday’s chat which we didn’t get a chance to get to yesterday so I’m just

chance to get to yesterday so I’m just

chance to get to yesterday so I’m just going to start with that one sure from I

going to start with that one sure from I

going to start with that one sure from I think it’s set cursor POS I don’t know

think it’s set cursor POS I don’t know

think it’s set cursor POS I don’t know if he or she is here today but I’ll just

if he or she is here today but I’ll just

if he or she is here today but I’ll just go right into it so his question was do

go right into it so his question was do

go right into it so his question was do you have any tips or experience in

you have any tips or experience in

you have any tips or experience in competing against bigger companies I’m

competing against bigger companies I’m

competing against bigger companies I’m 16 and I run a cyber security company

16 and I run a cyber security company

16 and I run a cyber security company but currently we’re having kind of a

but currently we’re having kind of a

but currently we’re having kind of a hard time trying to get bigger I’m

hard time trying to get bigger I’m

hard time trying to get bigger I’m thinking about investing in advertising

thinking about investing in advertising

thinking about investing in advertising of some sort so what’s your thought so

of some sort so what’s your thought so

of some sort so what’s your thought so um you know my background is an

um you know my background is an

um you know my background is an advertising so I have a few thoughts on

advertising so I have a few thoughts on

advertising so I have a few thoughts on advertising in general but compete gets

advertising in general but compete gets

advertising in general but compete gets bigger companies might be more of a

bigger companies might be more of a

bigger companies might be more of a great question for Evan but one of the

great question for Evan but one of the

great question for Evan but one of the things that I would say for sure is that

things that I would say for sure is that

things that I would say for sure is that before you start advertising is make

before you start advertising is make

before you start advertising is make sure that you do a lot of research to

sure that you do a lot of research to

sure that you do a lot of research to know exactly where customers are you

know exactly where customers are you

know exactly where customers are you want to make sure you’re advertising

want to make sure you’re advertising

want to make sure you’re advertising where they are and so do your research

where they are and so do your research

where they are and so do your research and also make sure your message is

and also make sure your message is

and also make sure your message is really good you know what makes you

really good you know what makes you

really good you know what makes you stand out from those big

stand out from those big

stand out from those big companies what’s your what’s your heels

companies what’s your what’s your heels

companies what’s your what’s your heels that you stand on you know what is the

that you stand on you know what is the

that you stand on you know what is the thing that you’re doing it they’re not

thing that you’re doing it they’re not

thing that you’re doing it they’re not because that’s the best way I think to

because that’s the best way I think to

because that’s the best way I think to make sure that if you’re going to

make sure that if you’re going to

make sure that if you’re going to advertise you better make sure that

advertise you better make sure that

advertise you better make sure that you’re getting out against what you know

you’re getting out against what you know

you’re getting out against what you know what they’re standing for so and the

what they’re standing for so and the

what they’re standing for so and the other thing I would say is when my

other thing I would say is when my

other thing I would say is when my clients I used to work in radio when my

clients I used to work in radio when my

clients I used to work in radio when my clients did really well what they tended

clients did really well what they tended

clients did really well what they tended to do was to pick pick one thing and

to do was to pick pick one thing and

to do was to pick pick one thing and really stick with it if you know it’s

really stick with it if you know it’s

really stick with it if you know it’s kind of like advertising you can’t just

kind of like advertising you can’t just

kind of like advertising you can’t just try some in here and try something that

try some in here and try something that

try some in here and try something that I mean excuse me it’s kinda like

I mean excuse me it’s kinda like

I mean excuse me it’s kinda like exercise if you go to the gym for a

exercise if you go to the gym for a

exercise if you go to the gym for a month you know you can’t expect you know

month you know you can’t expect you know

month you know you can’t expect you know results to super comfortable quickly

results to super comfortable quickly

results to super comfortable quickly comes over time and the results are

comes over time and the results are

comes over time and the results are cumulative so you know pick something

cumulative so you know pick something

cumulative so you know pick something stick with it until it really works and

stick with it until it really works and

stick with it until it really works and if you have to pick like something small

if you have to pick like something small

if you have to pick like something small and inexpensive and and really like you

and inexpensive and and really like you

and inexpensive and and really like you know invest in that for a while and then

know invest in that for a while and then

know invest in that for a while and then add something else to that so like in

add something else to that so like in

add something else to that so like in radio someone would maybe you know start

radio someone would maybe you know start

radio someone would maybe you know start with one day part if you’d be overnight

with one day part if you’d be overnight

with one day part if you’d be overnight because it’s cheaper and then they would

because it’s cheaper and then they would

because it’s cheaper and then they would add daytime and then they might add

add daytime and then they might add

add daytime and then they might add another station after that and when you

another station after that and when you

another station after that and when you do it that way your tend to be a lot

do it that way your tend to be a lot

do it that way your tend to be a lot more successful because you’re

more successful because you’re

more successful because you’re consistent over time to come with

consistent over time to come with

consistent over time to come with YouTube or any other really advertising

YouTube or any other really advertising

YouTube or any other really advertising medium so those are my thoughts what are

medium so those are my thoughts what are

medium so those are my thoughts what are your thoughts Devon I love it nice i

your thoughts Devon I love it nice i

your thoughts Devon I love it nice i love the the personal stories there too

love the the personal stories there too

love the the personal stories there too um well Jay and I are just about to get

um well Jay and I are just about to get

um well Jay and I are just about to get in the game we got our roles which I’m

in the game we got our roles which I’m

in the game we got our roles which I’m super pumped by this is our first time

super pumped by this is our first time

super pumped by this is our first time try this experiment and we’re going to

try this experiment and we’re going to

try this experiment and we’re going to do it live with you guys so we’ll see

do it live with you guys so we’ll see

do it live with you guys so we’ll see how it goes and just a big take another

how it goes and just a big take another

how it goes and just a big take another big companies you know think about why

big companies you know think about why

big companies you know think about why people buy from big companies usually

people buy from big companies usually

people buy from big companies usually it’s because there’s a brand their

it’s because there’s a brand their

it’s because there’s a brand their trusted their reliable you know they’re

trusted their reliable you know they’re

trusted their reliable you know they’re safe they’re not worried about that

safe they’re not worried about that

safe they’re not worried about that company going out of business it’s

company going out of business it’s

company going out of business it’s especially kind of important in the

especially kind of important in the

especially kind of important in the security business because if I’m buying

security business because if I’m buying

security business because if I’m buying from a company that is trusted and safe

from a company that is trusted and safe

from a company that is trusted and safe and not quite this is that’s good for me

and not quite this is that’s good for me

and not quite this is that’s good for me that’s what I kind of want so not that

that’s what I kind of want so not that

that’s what I kind of want so not that it’s not possible for you to break out

it’s not possible for you to break out

it’s not possible for you to break out you just have to be really smart about

you just have to be really smart about

you just have to be really smart about doing it the two things that I have in

doing it the two things that I have in

doing it the two things that I have in mind first is telling your story what do

mind first is telling your story what do

mind first is telling your story what do you staying for why is it so important

you staying for why is it so important

you staying for why is it so important why do you love security so much why

why do you love security so much why

why do you love security so much why should i buy from you and said the binds

should i buy from you and said the binds

should i buy from you and said the binds with somebody else this is your chance

with somebody else this is your chance

with somebody else this is your chance and for any small any entrepreneur going

and for any small any entrepreneur going

and for any small any entrepreneur going on taking on a bigger company this is

on taking on a bigger company this is

on taking on a bigger company this is your chance don’t have a corporate

your chance don’t have a corporate

your chance don’t have a corporate boring website that look like everybody

boring website that look like everybody

boring website that look like everybody else’s it has to be something unique and

else’s it has to be something unique and

else’s it has to be something unique and different and personal because that’s

different and personal because that’s

different and personal because that’s how you’re going to send out you can’t

how you’re going to send out you can’t

how you’re going to send out you can’t help corporate them they’re big

help corporate them they’re big

help corporate them they’re big corporation but you can out personalize

corporation but you can out personalize

corporation but you can out personalize them so telling your story and why you

them so telling your story and why you

them so telling your story and why you started this and making me feel your

started this and making me feel your

started this and making me feel your passion for security making me feel like

passion for security making me feel like

passion for security making me feel like you’re going to take care of me with my

you’re going to take care of me with my

you’re going to take care of me with my security much more than whatever company

security much more than whatever company

security much more than whatever company that I’m working with right now who just

that I’m working with right now who just

that I’m working with right now who just treats me like a number doesn’t know my

treats me like a number doesn’t know my

treats me like a number doesn’t know my name or my specific concerns that’s

name or my specific concerns that’s

name or my specific concerns that’s gonna be super important oh we have a

gonna be super important oh we have a

gonna be super important oh we have a gold player in our game on our team this

gold player in our game on our team this

gold player in our game on our team this is we’re playing with some some

is we’re playing with some some

is we’re playing with some some higher-level people here okay nice you

higher-level people here okay nice you

higher-level people here okay nice you guys better bring it yeah I know this is

guys better bring it yeah I know this is

guys better bring it yeah I know this is gonna be this is gonna be interesting

gonna be this is gonna be interesting

gonna be this is gonna be interesting we’ll see um and then the second part is

we’ll see um and then the second part is

we’ll see um and then the second part is finding you know what I’m taking

finding you know what I’m taking

finding you know what I’m taking business away from bigger players what

business away from bigger players what

business away from bigger players what the easiest way is just find one small

the easiest way is just find one small

the easiest way is just find one small thing that you can be really really good

thing that you can be really really good

thing that you can be really really good at that is a pain point for your

at that is a pain point for your

at that is a pain point for your customers that the current companies

customers that the current companies

customers that the current companies aren’t solving so instead of going in

aren’t solving so instead of going in

aren’t solving so instead of going in and saying as such as a small business

and saying as such as a small business

and saying as such as a small business going in and saying hey I want to take

going in and saying hey I want to take

going in and saying hey I want to take over your entire security budget which

over your entire security budget which

over your entire security budget which may be a big budget and now it’s a big

may be a big budget and now it’s a big

may be a big budget and now it’s a big risky decision and now involves multiple

risky decision and now involves multiple

risky decision and now involves multiple layers of management to make a decision

layers of management to make a decision

layers of management to make a decision of you know whether they should award it

of you know whether they should award it

of you know whether they should award it to you or not the bigger the deal is the

to you or not the bigger the deal is the

to you or not the bigger the deal is the more people need to be involved and you

more people need to be involved and you

more people need to be involved and you know the more complex it is and harder

know the more complex it is and harder

know the more complex it is and harder to get a guess I try to go in and find

to get a guess I try to go in and find

to get a guess I try to go in and find the smallest simplest easiest piece to

the smallest simplest easiest piece to

the smallest simplest easiest piece to be a part of that only one person has to

be a part of that only one person has to

be a part of that only one person has to say yes to and can happen really quickly

say yes to and can happen really quickly

say yes to and can happen really quickly so whatever the most painful thing is

so whatever the most painful thing is

so whatever the most painful thing is that they’re not happy right now with

that they’re not happy right now with

that they’re not happy right now with their current providers just go in and

their current providers just go in and

their current providers just go in and try to do that one piece get one small

try to do that one piece get one small

try to do that one piece get one small project whatever it is and then just

project whatever it is and then just

project whatever it is and then just over deliver like crazy be there

over deliver like crazy be there

over deliver like crazy be there constantly ask some questions

constantly ask some questions

constantly ask some questions amazing service you know get to know

amazing service you know get to know

amazing service you know get to know them and their business and their needs

them and their business and their needs

them and their business and their needs and the problems that they’re facing

and the problems that they’re facing

and the problems that they’re facing over-deliver like crazy because they’re

over-deliver like crazy because they’re

over-deliver like crazy because they’re gonna keep feeding you bigger and bigger

gonna keep feeding you bigger and bigger

gonna keep feeding you bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger chunks so those

and bigger and bigger chunks so those

and bigger and bigger chunks so those two things I found super helpful in

two things I found super helpful in

two things I found super helpful in taking on big competitors one telling

taking on big competitors one telling

taking on big competitors one telling your story and making it personal and to

your story and making it personal and to

your story and making it personal and to just finding some small way to get in

just finding some small way to get in

just finding some small way to get in and then over deliver like crazy so that

and then over deliver like crazy so that

and then over deliver like crazy so that they want to keep feeding you more and

they want to keep feeding you more and

they want to keep feeding you more and more business I don’t battle a poppin

more business I don’t battle a poppin

more business I don’t battle a poppin yeah I don’t know if he’s in the chat

yeah I don’t know if he’s in the chat

yeah I don’t know if he’s in the chat now to be able to hear the answer but

now to be able to hear the answer but

now to be able to hear the answer but thank you for the question yeah it’s a

thank you for the question yeah it’s a

thank you for the question yeah it’s a great question i don’t see him the sad

great question i don’t see him the sad

great question i don’t see him the sad but hopefully also to play back yeah

but hopefully also to play back yeah

but hopefully also to play back yeah yeah be she mentions that was over

yeah be she mentions that was over

yeah be she mentions that was over strategy that she competed was still

strategy that she competed was still

strategy that she competed was still donated by not competing and trying to

donated by not competing and trying to

donated by not competing and trying to beat him like it’s just that’s being

beat him like it’s just that’s being

beat him like it’s just that’s being himself or herself so yeah I think

himself or herself so yeah I think

himself or herself so yeah I think that’s so true i love your point about

that’s so true i love your point about

that’s so true i love your point about how when you’re small you have

how when you’re small you have

how when you’re small you have advantages that corporate company

advantages that corporate company

advantages that corporate company doesn’t and so don’t come off as

doesn’t and so don’t come off as

doesn’t and so don’t come off as corporate that’s probably one of the

corporate that’s probably one of the

corporate that’s probably one of the biggest advantages you have so telling

biggest advantages you have so telling

biggest advantages you have so telling your story like evan said is amazing

your story like evan said is amazing

your story like evan said is amazing yeah I’d why jen you do a lot of work

yeah I’d why jen you do a lot of work

yeah I’d why jen you do a lot of work helping people with their websites in

helping people with their websites in

helping people with their websites in creating better copy and making it more

creating better copy and making it more

creating better copy and making it more meaningful and personal i think a lot of

meaningful and personal i think a lot of

meaningful and personal i think a lot of entrepreneurs have super boring websites

entrepreneurs have super boring websites

entrepreneurs have super boring websites and try to look like the biggest

and try to look like the biggest

and try to look like the biggest competitor and seem corporate I think

competitor and seem corporate I think

competitor and seem corporate I think it’s professional what do you like

it’s professional what do you like

it’s professional what do you like what’s your advice for entrepreneurs who

what’s your advice for entrepreneurs who

what’s your advice for entrepreneurs who are making you’ve done I know you don’t

are making you’ve done I know you don’t

are making you’ve done I know you don’t like videos on this making a belt page

like videos on this making a belt page

like videos on this making a belt page what’s your advice for entrepreneurs who

what’s your advice for entrepreneurs who

what’s your advice for entrepreneurs who are making their boat page or you know

are making their boat page or you know

are making their boat page or you know designing their home page from a from a

designing their home page from a from a

designing their home page from a from a messaging copyright point of view yeah I

messaging copyright point of view yeah I

messaging copyright point of view yeah I think the biggest mistake some people

think the biggest mistake some people

think the biggest mistake some people make is like you said trying to be like

make is like you said trying to be like

make is like you said trying to be like a competitor’s instead of really

a competitor’s instead of really

a competitor’s instead of really reflecting what you’re about you know to

reflecting what you’re about you know to

reflecting what you’re about you know to truly like really look at yourself and

truly like really look at yourself and

truly like really look at yourself and what your brand is all about and what

what your brand is all about and what

what your brand is all about and what you stand for and and like Evans feel

you stand for and and like Evans feel

you stand for and and like Evans feel like if there’s something you’re doing

like if there’s something you’re doing

like if there’s something you’re doing it’s different than your competitors

it’s different than your competitors

it’s different than your competitors then really highlight that like if

then really highlight that like if

then really highlight that like if you’re sort of anti corporates and your

you’re sort of anti corporates and your

you’re sort of anti corporates and your website should look at my corporate and

website should look at my corporate and

website should look at my corporate and or whatever it is that you’re all about

or whatever it is that you’re all about

or whatever it is that you’re all about issue

issue

issue Plus who you are and then from there you

Plus who you are and then from there you

Plus who you are and then from there you should look at your customers so who are

should look at your customers so who are

should look at your customers so who are the best customers that are a match for

the best customers that are a match for

the best customers that are a match for you I think a lot of people make the

you I think a lot of people make the

you I think a lot of people make the mistake sometimes of going out

mistake sometimes of going out

mistake sometimes of going out researching customers first and then

researching customers first and then

researching customers first and then they sometimes then are like trying too

they sometimes then are like trying too

they sometimes then are like trying too hard to please their customers rather

hard to please their customers rather

hard to please their customers rather than really find the customers that are

than really find the customers that are

than really find the customers that are best fit for them and what they’re best

best fit for them and what they’re best

best fit for them and what they’re best at and so I highly recommend really

at and so I highly recommend really

at and so I highly recommend really being clear on yourself and your story

being clear on yourself and your story

being clear on yourself and your story and your brand and then finding the

and your brand and then finding the

and your brand and then finding the customers that are best match for you

customers that are best match for you

customers that are best match for you and then talk to your customers you want

and then talk to your customers you want

and then talk to your customers you want to make sure your messaging you know it

to make sure your messaging you know it

to make sure your messaging you know it appeals to them the things that they

appeals to them the things that they

appeals to them the things that they would say the way that they would say it

would say the way that they would say it

would say the way that they would say it and helping to solve the problems that

and helping to solve the problems that

and helping to solve the problems that you can do that that I love it very cool

you can do that that I love it very cool

you can do that that I love it very cool well we got a game going on here whoo

well we got a game going on here whoo

well we got a game going on here whoo this a lot of intense activity here in

this a lot of intense activity here in

this a lot of intense activity here in the bot Lane so Jay and I are gonna see

the bot Lane so Jay and I are gonna see

the bot Lane so Jay and I are gonna see how we do mm-hmm you guys started the

how we do mm-hmm you guys started the

how we do mm-hmm you guys started the game yeah we’re in we aren’t now are you

game yeah we’re in we aren’t now are you

game yeah we’re in we aren’t now are you on the chat to like you could see people

on the chat to like you could see people

on the chat to like you could see people ask questions live yes I am on a chat

ask questions live yes I am on a chat

ask questions live yes I am on a chat tale okay perfect all right your

tale okay perfect all right your

tale okay perfect all right your solution can you the moon I see ya shout

solution can you the moon I see ya shout

solution can you the moon I see ya shout out to the people in the chat by the way

out to the people in the chat by the way

out to the people in the chat by the way remember each day all the support today

remember each day all the support today

remember each day all the support today we got Sherri and Tamra and Rishi and

we got Sherri and Tamra and Rishi and

we got Sherri and Tamra and Rishi and they know and of course you and day yeah

they know and of course you and day yeah

they know and of course you and day yeah I got got some of the loyal crowd i love

I got got some of the loyal crowd i love

I got got some of the loyal crowd i love it awesome alright let’s top it to the

it awesome alright let’s top it to the

it awesome alright let’s top it to the next question do it all right this

next question do it all right this

next question do it all right this question is from Victor and he and he

question is from Victor and he and he

question is from Victor and he and he says that he is now the acting head of

says that he is now the acting head of

says that he is now the acting head of operations at a ghanian state-owned

operations at a ghanian state-owned

operations at a ghanian state-owned transport company and they just received

transport company and they just received

transport company and they just received a boost of 15 News fleet and the

a boost of 15 News fleet and the

a boost of 15 News fleet and the expectations are high and he has a

expectations are high and he has a

expectations are high and he has a really high vision for himself to he

really high vision for himself to he

really high vision for himself to he wants to effectively and efficiently

wants to effectively and efficiently

wants to effectively and efficiently market these products she’s use

market these products she’s use

market these products she’s use technology to improve the marketing of

technology to improve the marketing of

technology to improve the marketing of our services and he says that they

our services and he says that they

our services and he says that they brought a non-scheduled services when

brought a non-scheduled services when

brought a non-scheduled services when the bus is full it depart so what he’s

the bus is full it depart so what he’s

the bus is full it depart so what he’s asking is how can we capture the market

asking is how can we capture the market

asking is how can we capture the market from them what’s the most profitable

from from he talking about from leaders

from from he talking about from leaders in his industry so it sounds like you

in his industry so it sounds like you

in his industry so it sounds like you know similar questions to before maybe

know similar questions to before maybe

know similar questions to before maybe he’s not quite the leader but he has

he’s not quite the leader but he has

he’s not quite the leader but he has maybe they just got a big job and he

maybe they just got a big job and he

maybe they just got a big job and he wants to do a great job of capturing the

wants to do a great job of capturing the

wants to do a great job of capturing the market so I don’t know a lot about sweet

market so I don’t know a lot about sweet

market so I don’t know a lot about sweet companies personally um but I would say

companies personally um but I would say

companies personally um but I would say that I know his questions kind of around

that I know his questions kind of around

that I know his questions kind of around capturing the market um and I would be

capturing the market um and I would be

capturing the market um and I would be careful because their market not might

careful because their market not might

careful because their market not might not be your market right because you

not be your market right because you

not be your market right because you might have and you know so taking you

might have and you know so taking you

might have and you know so taking you know I could take a real good look at

know I could take a real good look at

know I could take a real good look at who your market is and and who do you

who your market is and and who do you

who your market is and and who do you really want to capture as a part of your

really want to capture as a part of your

really want to capture as a part of your customer base and then similar to before

customer base and then similar to before

customer base and then similar to before like what makes you different than your

like what makes you different than your

like what makes you different than your competition i think you know if you

competition i think you know if you

competition i think you know if you really want to capture the market think

really want to capture the market think

really want to capture the market think about the kinds of things that people

about the kinds of things that people

about the kinds of things that people hate about your industry and is there a

hate about your industry and is there a

hate about your industry and is there a way you can offer the opposite you know

way you can offer the opposite you know

way you can offer the opposite you know can you you know you definitely about

can you you know you definitely about

can you you know you definitely about they run non-scheduled services does

they run non-scheduled services does

they run non-scheduled services does that mean that maybe if you did

that mean that maybe if you did

that mean that maybe if you did something that was scheduled that it

something that was scheduled that it

something that was scheduled that it might be an advantage i don’t know i get

might be an advantage i don’t know i get

might be an advantage i don’t know i get i don’t know much as obviously business

i don’t know much as obviously business

i don’t know much as obviously business but that’s that’s kind of the thoughts

but that’s that’s kind of the thoughts

but that’s that’s kind of the thoughts that I have yeah I a lot of parallels to

that I have yeah I a lot of parallels to

that I have yeah I a lot of parallels to the last question it’s funny how we

the last question it’s funny how we

the last question it’s funny how we often come across themes as we get these

often come across themes as we get these

often come across themes as we get these chats going well honestly it’s the same

chats going well honestly it’s the same

chats going well honestly it’s the same advice I’d be looking at what is your

advice I’d be looking at what is your

advice I’d be looking at what is your story and why you why are you so

story and why you why are you so

story and why you why are you so passionate about this I try to make a

passionate about this I try to make a

passionate about this I try to make a personal connection with somebody at you

personal connection with somebody at you

personal connection with somebody at you know one of your potential client sites

know one of your potential client sites

know one of your potential client sites potential customers for you make that

potential customers for you make that

potential customers for you make that personal connection to them oh we’re

personal connection to them oh we’re

personal connection to them oh we’re fighting we’re fighting you’re fighting

fighting we’re fighting you’re fighting

fighting we’re fighting you’re fighting alright we’re okay we’re okay um well

alright we’re okay we’re okay um well

alright we’re okay we’re okay um well why do you love fleet management so much

why do you love fleet management so much

why do you love fleet management so much like make me feel make me feel a burning

like make me feel make me feel a burning

like make me feel make me feel a burning desire and passion for what you’re doing

desire and passion for what you’re doing

desire and passion for what you’re doing um I’ll give you an example that when I

um I’ll give you an example that when I

um I’ll give you an example that when I was doing an SEO I was doing a series

was doing an SEO I was doing a series

was doing an SEO I was doing a series called SEO for Africa where I would

called SEO for Africa where I would

called SEO for Africa where I would help raise money for entrepreneurs we’re

help raise money for entrepreneurs we’re

help raise money for entrepreneurs we’re getting started in Africa who needed

getting started in Africa who needed

getting started in Africa who needed small loans to get started and with you

small loans to get started and with you

small loans to get started and with you know the way I did it was I would do a

know the way I did it was I would do a

know the way I did it was I would do a seminar series are helping entrepreneurs

seminar series are helping entrepreneurs

seminar series are helping entrepreneurs with their SEO for their websites

with their SEO for their websites

with their SEO for their websites there’s something I was kind of into at

there’s something I was kind of into at

there’s something I was kind of into at the time really figuring out and so

the time really figuring out and so

the time really figuring out and so there was one guy who kept coming out

there was one guy who kept coming out

there was one guy who kept coming out named Ed who loved a backup and loved

named Ed who loved a backup and loved

named Ed who loved a backup and loved web site hosting it’s like the dude was

web site hosting it’s like the dude was

web site hosting it’s like the dude was just obsessed with it I’ve never met

just obsessed with it I’ve never met

just obsessed with it I’ve never met somebody more obsessed with with data

somebody more obsessed with with data

somebody more obsessed with with data backup then this guy uh yeah but we all

backup then this guy uh yeah but we all

backup then this guy uh yeah but we all have our things that were super pompton

have our things that were super pompton

have our things that were super pompton and excited by and this was his and it’s

and excited by and this was his and it’s

and excited by and this was his and it’s awesome and so when I was looking at my

awesome and so when I was looking at my

awesome and so when I was looking at my my website and what to do you know he

my website and what to do you know he

my website and what to do you know he was the first guy that I wanted to give

was the first guy that I wanted to give

was the first guy that I wanted to give a shot I found it important because I

a shot I found it important because I

a shot I found it important because I knew this guy I heard his story I

knew this guy I heard his story I

knew this guy I heard his story I understand his pushed his passion for it

understand his pushed his passion for it

understand his pushed his passion for it and so he had the first shot to be able

and so he had the first shot to be able

and so he had the first shot to be able to do this thing for me and you could

to do this thing for me and you could

to do this thing for me and you could probably about a nabob you can think

probably about a nabob you can think

probably about a nabob you can think about your own like all of us and think

about your own like all of us and think

about your own like all of us and think about our own experiences and when have

about our own experiences and when have

about our own experiences and when have you bought from a small company instead

you bought from a small company instead

you bought from a small company instead of a big company what has happened when

of a big company what has happened when

of a big company what has happened when you’ve bought from you know a local

you’ve bought from you know a local

you’ve bought from you know a local coffee shop or a local you know

coffee shop or a local you know

coffee shop or a local you know chocolate shop the jĂŞng might be going

chocolate shop the jĂŞng might be going

chocolate shop the jĂŞng might be going to write instead of going to it instead

to write instead of going to it instead

to write instead of going to it instead of going to the big store and like why

of going to the big store and like why

of going to the big store and like why would you pay more to go to is often a

would you pay more to go to is often a

would you pay more to go to is often a little the smaller companies are more

little the smaller companies are more

little the smaller companies are more expensive so what would make you want to

expensive so what would make you want to

expensive so what would make you want to pay more for something it’s the story

pay more for something it’s the story

pay more for something it’s the story it’s the connection it’s the passion for

it’s the connection it’s the passion for

it’s the connection it’s the passion for that entrepreneur you know all of those

that entrepreneur you know all of those

that entrepreneur you know all of those things matter so you know from your own

things matter so you know from your own

things matter so you know from your own personal experience use that from your

personal experience use that from your

personal experience use that from your own personal experience well we’re under

own personal experience well we’re under

own personal experience well we’re under attack we are under attack

I’m gonna get on oh we gotta kill jr.

I’m gonna get on oh we gotta kill jr. hits a double kill holy cow nice double

hits a double kill holy cow nice double

hits a double kill holy cow nice double kill they came at us and Jay destroyed

kill they came at us and Jay destroyed

kill they came at us and Jay destroyed them oh I might die no I’m not gonna die

them oh I might die no I’m not gonna die

them oh I might die no I’m not gonna die okay yes so a lot of times if all that

okay yes so a lot of times if all that

okay yes so a lot of times if all that stuff is thinking to like what you think

stuff is thinking to like what you think

stuff is thinking to like what you think about your own experience you even with

about your own experience you even with

about your own experience you even with this in even in a different industry so

this in even in a different industry so

this in even in a different industry so this is fleet management okay great you

this is fleet management okay great you

this is fleet management okay great you know you probably never purchased you

know you probably never purchased you

know you probably never purchased you know fleet management stuff because

know fleet management stuff because

know fleet management stuff because you’re providing that service but think

you’re providing that service but think

you’re providing that service but think about it from the perspective of other

about it from the perspective of other

about it from the perspective of other companies that you’ve bought from like

companies that you’ve bought from like

companies that you’ve bought from like do you like going to starbucks and do

do you like going to starbucks and do

do you like going to starbucks and do you like buying from the local roaster

you like buying from the local roaster

you like buying from the local roaster do you buy from do you buy from the

do you buy from do you buy from the

do you buy from do you buy from the supermarket did you like going to the

supermarket did you like going to the

supermarket did you like going to the local butcher look there are some people

local butcher look there are some people

local butcher look there are some people that you buy from smaller companies with

that you buy from smaller companies with

that you buy from smaller companies with so why understanding that will really

so why understanding that will really

so why understanding that will really help you make those lessons applicable

help you make those lessons applicable

help you make those lessons applicable to your old business love it red vibe

ok so the next question get on blood

ok so the next question get on blood tool i think i’m saying that right and

tool i think i’m saying that right and

tool i think i’m saying that right and not sure and he says i’m here to say

not sure and he says i’m here to say

not sure and he says i’m here to say that i’ve done research in marketing and

that i’ve done research in marketing and

that i’ve done research in marketing and he has that in quotation and then he

he has that in quotation and then he

he has that in quotation and then he says it’s kind of like innovation in

says it’s kind of like innovation in

says it’s kind of like innovation in marketing is anything working on it bird

marketing is anything working on it bird

marketing is anything working on it bird what’s in quotes yeah the research or

what’s in quotes yeah the research or

what’s in quotes yeah the research or the market is in quotes marketing

the market is in quotes marketing

the market is in quotes marketing marketing okay so it looks like it does

marketing okay so it looks like it does

marketing okay so it looks like it does like maybe a smaller neish of marketing

like maybe a smaller neish of marketing

like maybe a smaller neish of marketing of some kind that has to do with

of some kind that has to do with

of some kind that has to do with innovation and he says he’s been working

innovation and he says he’s been working

innovation and he says he’s been working on for two years but he’s confused to

on for two years but he’s confused to

on for two years but he’s confused to wear to publish it and then he said I’ve

wear to publish it and then he said I’ve

wear to publish it and then he said I’ve seen her videos and realize that she

seen her videos and realize that she

seen her videos and realize that she might help me for the issue so I mean

might help me for the issue so I mean

might help me for the issue so I mean this to preclearance of a bunch of

this to preclearance of a bunch of

this to preclearance of a bunch of questions because I immediately think to

questions because I immediately think to

questions because I immediately think to myself well I’m not sure exactly what he

myself well I’m not sure exactly what he

myself well I’m not sure exactly what he wants to publish is it a thesis is it a

wants to publish is it a thesis is it a

wants to publish is it a thesis is it a book like what did you do with this

book like what did you do with this

book like what did you do with this research did he make into an article

research did he make into an article

research did he make into an article because obviously that makes a big

because obviously that makes a big

because obviously that makes a big difference as to where he would want to

difference as to where he would want to

difference as to where he would want to publish it you know if the book

publish it you know if the book

publish it you know if the book obviously could self publish it or put

obviously could self publish it or put

obviously could self publish it or put the thesis it might be able to be

the thesis it might be able to be

the thesis it might be able to be submitted to you know different

submitted to you know different

submitted to you know different marketing journals you know if it’s some

marketing journals you know if it’s some

marketing journals you know if it’s some kind of article or blog obviously

kind of article or blog obviously

kind of article or blog obviously there’s a ton of great marketing blogs

there’s a ton of great marketing blogs

there’s a ton of great marketing blogs out there I mean there’s so many um

out there I mean there’s so many um

out there I mean there’s so many um being the marketing world myself I you

being the marketing world myself I you

being the marketing world myself I you know the first things that come to mine

know the first things that come to mine

know the first things that come to mine are like marketing crosstour hubspot

are like marketing crosstour hubspot

are like marketing crosstour hubspot there’s so many so it really depends on

there’s so many so it really depends on

there’s so many so it really depends on and of course Sam on you know what his

and of course Sam on you know what his

and of course Sam on you know what his knishes the innovation in marketing like

knishes the innovation in marketing like

knishes the innovation in marketing like I’m curious you notice that innovation

I’m curious you notice that innovation

I’m curious you notice that innovation in data in social media like you know

in data in social media like you know

in data in social media like you know what was it about because obvious but

what was it about because obvious but

what was it about because obvious but that would make a big difference I think

that would make a big difference I think

that would make a big difference I think to where he would want to publish it and

to where he would want to publish it and

to where he would want to publish it and the only other thing I would say maybe

the only other thing I would say maybe

the only other thing I would say maybe too is that you could probably start

too is that you could probably start

too is that you could probably start small somewhere a lot of times people

small somewhere a lot of times people

small somewhere a lot of times people who are publishing things you know it’s

who are publishing things you know it’s

who are publishing things you know it’s a good place you know if you’re not well

a good place you know if you’re not well

a good place you know if you’re not well known yet start somewhere where it’s

known yet start somewhere where it’s

known yet start somewhere where it’s easier to get published and then you can

easier to get published and then you can

easier to get published and then you can always submit to other bigger

always submit to other bigger

always submit to other bigger publications once you you know what you

publications once you you know what you

publications once you you know what you get published it’s easier sometimes I

get published it’s easier sometimes I

get published it’s easier sometimes I know those are my thoughts 67 yeah

know those are my thoughts 67 yeah

know those are my thoughts 67 yeah fighting can we get something yeah we

fighting can we get something yeah we

fighting can we get something yeah we gotta kill all right very exciting oh

gotta kill all right very exciting oh

gotta kill all right very exciting oh yeah I’ve been looking at um I would be

yeah I’ve been looking at um I would be

yeah I’ve been looking at um I would be looking at who cares about this audience

looking at who cares about this audience

looking at who cares about this audience so you know this research that you have

so you know this research that you have

so you know this research that you have who really cares about that sees as men

who really cares about that sees as men

who really cares about that sees as men that’s really amazing so where is the

that’s really amazing so where is the

that’s really amazing so where is the audience for this content that you have

audience for this content that you have

audience for this content that you have and I would look at not just where to

and I would look at not just where to

and I would look at not just where to promote it so yes you self publish it

promote it so yes you self publish it

promote it so yes you self publish it yes you work with the publisher honestly

yes you work with the publisher honestly

yes you work with the publisher honestly the publisher if you go in a traditional

the publisher if you go in a traditional

the publisher if you go in a traditional publisher you know something I know a

publisher you know something I know a

publisher you know something I know a little bit of working with penguin

little bit of working with penguin

little bit of working with penguin Random House from my book they care a

Random House from my book they care a

Random House from my book they care a lot about your audience and so if you

lot about your audience and so if you

lot about your audience and so if you don’t have an audience yet if you’re

don’t have an audience yet if you’re

don’t have an audience yet if you’re just kind of getting started you don’t

just kind of getting started you don’t

just kind of getting started you don’t have a big social media following it’s

have a big social media following it’s

have a big social media following it’s going to be really really hard to get a

going to be really really hard to get a

going to be really really hard to get a traditional publishing deal also just

traditional publishing deal also just

traditional publishing deal also just being aware of that now you can

being aware of that now you can

being aware of that now you can self-publish we’re actually doing a new

self-publish we’re actually doing a new

self-publish we’re actually doing a new series a new video coming up within the

series a new video coming up within the

series a new video coming up within the next week I believe on our making it

next week I believe on our making it

next week I believe on our making it series and it’s going to be making it as

series and it’s going to be making it as

series and it’s going to be making it as a writer and it’s advice from super

a writer and it’s advice from super

a writer and it’s advice from super successful writers on how to have

successful writers on how to have

successful writers on how to have success as a writer um I love it you

success as a writer um I love it you

success as a writer um I love it you know I’ve been to that that’s so cool

know I’ve been to that that’s so cool

know I’ve been to that that’s so cool yeah so it should be fun oh we just got

yeah so it should be fun oh we just got

yeah so it should be fun oh we just got some more kills this is great so one of

some more kills this is great so one of

some more kills this is great so one of them is is from James Altucher who wrote

them is is from James Altucher who wrote

them is is from James Altucher who wrote choose yourself and super successful

choose yourself and super successful

choose yourself and super successful book we had him on the channel and he

book we had him on the channel and he

book we had him on the channel and he talks about self-publishing through

talks about self-publishing through

talks about self-publishing through amazon and choose yourself as his

amazon and choose yourself as his

amazon and choose yourself as his best-selling book and he he

best-selling book and he he

best-selling book and he he self-published it and earns seventy

self-published it and earns seventy

self-published it and earns seventy percent of the revenue because he

percent of the revenue because he

percent of the revenue because he publishes through amazon so we just took

publishes through amazon so we just took

publishes through amazon so we just took our tower okay we’re gonna split good um

our tower okay we’re gonna split good um

our tower okay we’re gonna split good um yeah so it’s uh it’s definitely an

yeah so it’s uh it’s definitely an

yeah so it’s uh it’s definitely an interesting way to go one that i would

interesting way to go one that i would

interesting way to go one that i would highly look at if you’re a first-time

highly look at if you’re a first-time

highly look at if you’re a first-time author and then it’s up to you to think

author and then it’s up to you to think

author and then it’s up to you to think about promotion how are we going to get

about promotion how are we going to get

about promotion how are we going to get this out there how are we going to

this out there how are we going to

this out there how are we going to people to care but what we’re doing

people to care but what we’re doing

people to care but what we’re doing that becomes interesting and important

that becomes interesting and important

that becomes interesting and important and so it could be by writing some guest

and so it could be by writing some guest

and so it could be by writing some guest blogs on different posts it could be

blogs on different posts it could be

blogs on different posts it could be from doing interviews on channels right

from doing interviews on channels right

from doing interviews on channels right like if you had some new research for

like if you had some new research for

like if you had some new research for entrepreneurs you know I might care

entrepreneurs you know I might care

entrepreneurs you know I might care about that i might want to have you on

about that i might want to have you on

about that i might want to have you on my channel on let’s talk about interview

my channel on let’s talk about interview

my channel on let’s talk about interview tons of different people on my channel

tons of different people on my channel

tons of different people on my channel that’s some good potential content for

that’s some good potential content for

that’s some good potential content for me there to care about so it’s a matter

me there to care about so it’s a matter

me there to care about so it’s a matter of then getting the the material out

of then getting the the material out

of then getting the the material out there getting some exposure for yourself

there getting some exposure for yourself

there getting some exposure for yourself whether it’s podcasts or blogging or

whether it’s podcasts or blogging or

whether it’s podcasts or blogging or doing you know youtube interviews

doing you know youtube interviews

doing you know youtube interviews working with influencers think about the

working with influencers think about the

working with influencers think about the people who would find your research

people who would find your research

people who would find your research interesting and then start working with

interesting and then start working with

interesting and then start working with those people letting them know about

those people letting them know about

those people letting them know about what you’re doing Sam curious Evan

what you’re doing Sam curious Evan

what you’re doing Sam curious Evan what’s your thoughts on I don’t know who

what’s your thoughts on I don’t know who

what’s your thoughts on I don’t know who expect about this before but it’s not

expect about this before but it’s not

expect about this before but it’s not the same versus you know getting a

the same versus you know getting a

the same versus you know getting a publisher um I’ve mentioned it on one of

publisher um I’ve mentioned it on one of

publisher um I’ve mentioned it on one of my book videos but I mean there’s so

my book videos but I mean there’s so

my book videos but I mean there’s so many videos that it can be hard to

many videos that it can be hard to

many videos that it can be hard to remember everything um it really just

remember everything um it really just

remember everything um it really just depends on your goal see so my goal I

depends on your goal see so my goal I

depends on your goal see so my goal I wanted I wanted impact and I want to

wanted I wanted impact and I want to

wanted I wanted impact and I want to reach making the book was not money

reach making the book was not money

reach making the book was not money making thing for me it was not the

making thing for me it was not the

making thing for me it was not the primary goal just to make money I wanted

primary goal just to make money I wanted

primary goal just to make money I wanted to be able to have reach I wanted to

to be able to have reach I wanted to

to be able to have reach I wanted to touch a lot of people want the message

touch a lot of people want the message

touch a lot of people want the message to get out there I want people to find

to get out there I want people to find

to get out there I want people to find their one word and see the benefits of

their one word and see the benefits of

their one word and see the benefits of using it so self-publishing was never in

using it so self-publishing was never in

using it so self-publishing was never in the cards for me because you can get

the cards for me because you can get

the cards for me because you can get you’ll make way less money but you’ll

you’ll make way less money but you’ll

you’ll make way less money but you’ll get way greater reach by going with a

get way greater reach by going with a

get way greater reach by going with a traditional publisher most of the time

traditional publisher most of the time

traditional publisher most of the time right and so that was my my thinking

right and so that was my my thinking

right and so that was my my thinking there so it just depends like if you’re

there so it just depends like if you’re

there so it just depends like if you’re some people just have I want to write a

some people just have I want to write a

some people just have I want to write a book as a bucket-list thing right I want

book as a bucket-list thing right I want

book as a bucket-list thing right I want to write a book because it’s important

to write a book because it’s important

to write a book because it’s important to me because you know I want I want

to me because you know I want I want

to me because you know I want I want tell my grandkids hey look you know I

tell my grandkids hey look you know I

tell my grandkids hey look you know I wrote this book for me that wasn’t a

wrote this book for me that wasn’t a

wrote this book for me that wasn’t a thing I didn’t I don’t have attachment

thing I didn’t I don’t have attachment

thing I didn’t I don’t have attachment to you know it’s nice to see it it’s

to you know it’s nice to see it it’s

to you know it’s nice to see it it’s nice to have the you know the book next

nice to have the you know the book next

nice to have the you know the book next to me and say hey I wrote that that was

to me and say hey I wrote that that was

to me and say hey I wrote that that was a fun exercise and a cool process but

a fun exercise and a cool process but

a fun exercise and a cool process but you know I I would rather do other

you know I I would rather do other

you know I I would rather do other things if I didn’t have a publisher with

things if I didn’t have a publisher with

things if I didn’t have a publisher with me so I think it just depends on your

me so I think it just depends on your

me so I think it just depends on your goal there’s no one you know right way

goal there’s no one you know right way

goal there’s no one you know right way or wrong way and just make sure it

or wrong way and just make sure it

or wrong way and just make sure it aligns with your goals right yeah you

aligns with your goals right yeah you

aligns with your goals right yeah you have a little more control obviously

have a little more control obviously

have a little more control obviously here self-publishing but you also don’t

here self-publishing but you also don’t

here self-publishing but you also don’t have the same distribution channels but

have the same distribution channels but

have the same distribution channels but you know it’s a lot of people do publish

you know it’s a lot of people do publish

you know it’s a lot of people do publish on their own first hoping to get picked

on their own first hoping to get picked

on their own first hoping to get picked up because you know it can be difficult

up because you know it can be difficult

up because you know it can be difficult to get a publishing deal so you know if

to get a publishing deal so you know if

to get a publishing deal so you know if you can’t get one you can publish on

you can’t get one you can publish on

you can’t get one you can publish on your own and then it was good enough

your own and then it was good enough

your own and then it was good enough sometimes get to pick up yeah and that’s

sometimes get to pick up yeah and that’s

sometimes get to pick up yeah and that’s happened I put a lot of people um 50

happened I put a lot of people um 50

happened I put a lot of people um 50 shades of grey yeah it was one that I

shades of grey yeah it was one that I

shades of grey yeah it was one that I did that yeah yep there you go and then

did that yeah yep there you go and then

did that yeah yep there you go and then there’s been others too that’s maybe a

there’s been others too that’s maybe a

there’s been others too that’s maybe a more you know popular examples as we all

more you know popular examples as we all

more you know popular examples as we all know that book um so yeah like the first

know that book um so yeah like the first

know that book um so yeah like the first friend you do on your own just again

friend you do on your own just again

friend you do on your own just again just depends on what your what is the

just depends on what your what is the

just depends on what your what is the goal what’s the goal with making this

goal what’s the goal with making this

goal what’s the goal with making this book and when you know the goals you

book and when you know the goals you

book and when you know the goals you know what the outcome is that you want

know what the outcome is that you want

know what the outcome is that you want then you couldn’t align your your action

then you couldn’t align your your action

then you couldn’t align your your action steps a little bit better yeah quick

steps a little bit better yeah quick

steps a little bit better yeah quick shut up to the chat there’s quite a shot

shut up to the chat there’s quite a shot

shut up to the chat there’s quite a shot going on about local farming and

going on about local farming and

going on about local farming and drinking local coffee and Tamra being a

drinking local coffee and Tamra being a

drinking local coffee and Tamra being a Cornhusker I don’t know it’s tough guys

Cornhusker I don’t know it’s tough guys

Cornhusker I don’t know it’s tough guys you guys are entertaining me for sure

all right let’s see let’s pop it the

all right let’s see let’s pop it the next question so this question is from

next question so this question is from

next question so this question is from Hassan and says your videos are super

Hassan and says your videos are super

Hassan and says your videos are super awesome and I really find a great

awesome and I really find a great

awesome and I really find a great strength and motivation for videos and

strength and motivation for videos and

strength and motivation for videos and he wants to start his own channel but

he wants to start his own channel but

he wants to start his own channel but has a question as to where and how he

has a question as to where and how he

has a question as to where and how he loves to be healthy i love doing sports

loves to be healthy i love doing sports

loves to be healthy i love doing sports like swimming weightless and in car

like swimming weightless and in car

like swimming weightless and in car and even lets you know about technology

and even lets you know about technology

and even lets you know about technology i can teach like HTML and other helping

i can teach like HTML and other helping

i can teach like HTML and other helping videos for people and I’m living in

videos for people and I’m living in

videos for people and I’m living in Turkey and just learn Turkish as well so

Turkey and just learn Turkish as well so

Turkey and just learn Turkish as well so sometimes I think of making videos that

sometimes I think of making videos that

sometimes I think of making videos that help people learn Turkish fat because I

help people learn Turkish fat because I

help people learn Turkish fat because I can speak better Turkish in the

can speak better Turkish in the

can speak better Turkish in the foreigners who are living here for years

foreigners who are living here for years

foreigners who are living here for years I need cigs all the other languages too

I need cigs all the other languages too

I need cigs all the other languages too so he said so please suggest me what I

so he said so please suggest me what I

so he said so please suggest me what I should do should i do a mix of all

should do should i do a mix of all

should do should i do a mix of all things or go for one thing specific and

things or go for one thing specific and

things or go for one thing specific and looking forward to your best adjusted

looking forward to your best adjusted

looking forward to your best adjusted answer for me wow I love it this guy is

answer for me wow I love it this guy is

answer for me wow I love it this guy is like multi-talented this is awesome

like multi-talented this is awesome

like multi-talented this is awesome there’s a getter reminds me of myself

there’s a getter reminds me of myself

there’s a getter reminds me of myself I’m always like I wanna do this someone

I’m always like I wanna do this someone

I’m always like I wanna do this someone do that tons of ideas I mean my saucer

do that tons of ideas I mean my saucer

do that tons of ideas I mean my saucer experiment with all of them that’s kind

experiment with all of them that’s kind

experiment with all of them that’s kind of my pops you could do different

of my pops you could do different

of my pops you could do different playlists for different for different

playlists for different for different

playlists for different for different subjects and you could kind of get a

subjects and you could kind of get a

subjects and you could kind of get a feeling for which ones you love doing

feeling for which ones you love doing

feeling for which ones you love doing the most you know if you’re not sure I

the most you know if you’re not sure I

the most you know if you’re not sure I think obvious you want to go for the one

think obvious you want to go for the one

think obvious you want to go for the one that resonates with you the most but if

that resonates with you the most but if

that resonates with you the most but if you if they all sound like fun you know

you if they all sound like fun you know

you if they all sound like fun you know experiment and see which ones end up

experiment and see which ones end up

experiment and see which ones end up getting a little bit more attraction

getting a little bit more attraction

getting a little bit more attraction which ones you enjoy making the more you

which ones you enjoy making the more you

which ones you enjoy making the more you know the Turkish one sounds really

know the Turkish one sounds really

know the Turkish one sounds really interesting but I think that’s something

interesting but I think that’s something

interesting but I think that’s something to probably would get a lot of traction

to probably would get a lot of traction

to probably would get a lot of traction for people who don’t know how to speak

for people who don’t know how to speak

for people who don’t know how to speak the language but you know again I just

the language but you know again I just

the language but you know again I just think you know doing what you love the

think you know doing what you love the

think you know doing what you love the most is probably going to end up being

most is probably going to end up being

most is probably going to end up being the best one so that’s my bad very cool

the best one so that’s my bad very cool

the best one so that’s my bad very cool what was what were the other thing so

what was what were the other thing so

what was what were the other thing so there was there was Turkish yeah

there was there was Turkish yeah

there was there was Turkish yeah speaking Turkish she is also good at

speaking Turkish she is also good at

speaking Turkish she is also good at technology so HTML CSS they also love to

technology so HTML CSS they also love to

technology so HTML CSS they also love to be healthy so health and fitness like

be healthy so health and fitness like

be healthy so health and fitness like weight lifting swimming and cardio got

weight lifting swimming and cardio got

weight lifting swimming and cardio got it yeah so we’ve talked about this a

it yeah so we’ve talked about this a

it yeah so we’ve talked about this a couple times on the channel I’m a I’m a

couple times on the channel I’m a I’m a

couple times on the channel I’m a I’m a big fan of combining the genius at the

big fan of combining the genius at the

big fan of combining the genius at the end do both that’s how you’re going to

end do both that’s how you’re going to

end do both that’s how you’re going to stand out it’s one how you’re going to

stand out it’s one how you’re going to

stand out it’s one how you’re going to get more like have a unique flavor so

get more like have a unique flavor so

get more like have a unique flavor so you’re not just oh they surrendered oh

you’re not just oh they surrendered oh

you’re not just oh they surrendered oh yeah we won oh that was a

yeah we won oh that was a

yeah we won oh that was a game Wow jen is it may be a good luck

game Wow jen is it may be a good luck

game Wow jen is it may be a good luck charm here look at this wow I love it I

charm here look at this wow I love it I

charm here look at this wow I love it I love you too good luck hahaha so so I’ll

love you too good luck hahaha so so I’ll

love you too good luck hahaha so so I’ll turn after 20 minutes you can surrender

turn after 20 minutes you can surrender

turn after 20 minutes you can surrender a game you can’t quit the game until I

a game you can’t quit the game until I

a game you can’t quit the game until I just after 20 minutes um well and I’m

just after 20 minutes um well and I’m

just after 20 minutes um well and I’m sorry baby but they surrendered at 20

sorry baby but they surrendered at 20

sorry baby but they surrendered at 20 minutes and 44 seconds hahaha so that

minutes and 44 seconds hahaha so that

minutes and 44 seconds hahaha so that was pretty good um I had three kills one

was pretty good um I had three kills one

was pretty good um I had three kills one death Jay Reise had five kills and one

death Jay Reise had five kills and one

death Jay Reise had five kills and one death so yeah it was pretty solid we did

death so yeah it was pretty solid we did

death so yeah it was pretty solid we did well um so yeah I combined in the genius

well um so yeah I combined in the genius

well um so yeah I combined in the genius at the end thinking about how you can

at the end thinking about how you can

at the end thinking about how you can combine these things together that make

combine these things together that make

combine these things together that make it unique and special different for you

it unique and special different for you

it unique and special different for you otherwise like if you just go out and

otherwise like if you just go out and

otherwise like if you just go out and teach Turkish it’s great you have a

teach Turkish it’s great you have a

teach Turkish it’s great you have a skill set you’re better than you know

skill set you’re better than you know

skill set you’re better than you know some of the other people doing it

some of the other people doing it

some of the other people doing it awesome but you’re just another guy

awesome but you’re just another guy

awesome but you’re just another guy teaching Turkish now can you combine

teaching Turkish now can you combine

teaching Turkish now can you combine that with technology and can you make

that with technology and can you make

that with technology and can you make great videos or make a great app or make

great videos or make a great app or make

great videos or make a great app or make a great website or make a great you know

a great website or make a great you know

a great website or make a great you know piece of tack that helps me learn

piece of tack that helps me learn

piece of tack that helps me learn Turkish better like those two interests

Turkish better like those two interests

Turkish better like those two interests will make you already different than

will make you already different than

will make you already different than everybody else trying to do it and the

everybody else trying to do it and the

everybody else trying to do it and the third thing was athletics fitness yep

third thing was athletics fitness yep

third thing was athletics fitness yep yep fitness and swimming and

yep fitness and swimming and

yep fitness and swimming and weightlifting yeah I wonder if this even

weightlifting yeah I wonder if this even

weightlifting yeah I wonder if this even a market to have a premium service where

a market to have a premium service where

a market to have a premium service where you were you work with all the athletes

you were you work with all the athletes

you were you work with all the athletes that come over to Turkey for

that come over to Turkey for

that come over to Turkey for competitions for training and you oh

competitions for training and you oh

competitions for training and you oh yeah yeah yeah you’re there translator

yeah yeah yeah you’re there translator

yeah yeah yeah you’re there translator or you’re there like you teach them how

or you’re there like you teach them how

or you’re there like you teach them how to like you could be known as that guy

to like you could be known as that guy

to like you could be known as that guy here’s an example I told this a while

here’s an example I told this a while

here’s an example I told this a while ago I haven’t told the story recently

ago I haven’t told the story recently

ago I haven’t told the story recently but a buddy of mine was a financial

but a buddy of mine was a financial

but a buddy of mine was a financial advisory is a financial advisor and he

advisory is a financial advisor and he

advisory is a financial advisor and he you know finite how many financial

you know finite how many financial

you know finite how many financial advisors are there out there it’s like

advisors are there out there it’s like

advisors are there out there it’s like everybody’s a financial

everybody’s a financial

everybody’s a financial it’s not it puts an insanely competitive

it’s not it puts an insanely competitive

it’s not it puts an insanely competitive field and you can’t differentiate the

field and you can’t differentiate the

field and you can’t differentiate the product like you guys are all selling

product like you guys are all selling

product like you guys are all selling the same stuff you’re all selling mutual

the same stuff you’re all selling mutual

the same stuff you’re all selling mutual funds and stocks and bonds and like the

funds and stocks and bonds and like the

funds and stocks and bonds and like the product itself is diff is the same sorry

product itself is diff is the same sorry

product itself is diff is the same sorry so that makes it even harder to stand

so that makes it even harder to stand

so that makes it even harder to stand out when there’s nothing different in

out when there’s nothing different in

out when there’s nothing different in the product that you’re doing his other

the product that you’re doing his other

the product that you’re doing his other passion was hockey and he could watch

passion was hockey and he could watch

passion was hockey and he could watch the same replay on SportsCenter ESPN you

the same replay on SportsCenter ESPN you

the same replay on SportsCenter ESPN you know ten times and Steve like man what a

know ten times and Steve like man what a

know ten times and Steve like man what a crazy goal that was nuts and his wife

crazy goal that was nuts and his wife

crazy goal that was nuts and his wife looks at him like he’s crazy like have

looks at him like he’s crazy like have

looks at him like he’s crazy like have you seen this already and these see

you seen this already and these see

you seen this already and these see these two things seem like really

these two things seem like really

these two things seem like really opposite things like how can I ever

opposite things like how can I ever

opposite things like how can I ever combine my love of watching hockey with

combine my love of watching hockey with

combine my love of watching hockey with financial advising and when it finally

financial advising and when it finally

financial advising and when it finally clicked the thing that he did was he

clicked the thing that he did was he

clicked the thing that he did was he became the financial advisor for NHL

became the financial advisor for NHL

became the financial advisor for NHL hockey players and they want to deal

hockey players and they want to deal

hockey players and they want to deal with him because he loves he can speak

with him because he loves he can speak

with him because he loves he can speak to them on their terms like he’s he’s

to them on their terms like he’s he’s

to them on their terms like he’s he’s their most in the financial fighters

their most in the financial fighters

their most in the financial fighters going to them just see you know high net

going to them just see you know high net

going to them just see you know high net worth person hockey player okay a good

worth person hockey player okay a good

worth person hockey player okay a good good meal ticket for me and they’re just

good meal ticket for me and they’re just

good meal ticket for me and they’re just given a financial advice or he can go in

given a financial advice or he can go in

given a financial advice or he can go in and get the financial advice but also

and get the financial advice but also

and get the financial advice but also talk to them about hockey and appreciate

talk to them about hockey and appreciate

talk to them about hockey and appreciate and validate and recognize them for

and validate and recognize them for

and validate and recognize them for their skill and that amazing goal that

their skill and that amazing goal that

their skill and that amazing goal that they scored so he’s one of them and so

they scored so he’s one of them and so

they scored so he’s one of them and so that gives him a tremendous leg up over

that gives him a tremendous leg up over

that gives him a tremendous leg up over everybody else going in who only is

everybody else going in who only is

everybody else going in who only is there to be a financial advisor and so

there to be a financial advisor and so

there to be a financial advisor and so it’s parallel here where you could do

it’s parallel here where you could do

it’s parallel here where you could do the same thing if you love swimming or

the same thing if you love swimming or

the same thing if you love swimming or if you love bodybuilding or you love

if you love bodybuilding or you love

if you love bodybuilding or you love skateboarding or you know whatever it is

skateboarding or you know whatever it is

skateboarding or you know whatever it is windows athletes are coming you could

windows athletes are coming you could

windows athletes are coming you could connect to them in a way that other

connect to them in a way that other

connect to them in a way that other translators or teachers couldn’t because

translators or teachers couldn’t because

translators or teachers couldn’t because all they are doing is teaching Turkish

all they are doing is teaching Turkish

all they are doing is teaching Turkish where you understand that person and

where you understand that person and

where you understand that person and connect with them much on a much deeper

connect with them much on a much deeper

connect with them much on a much deeper level and so that could be a really

level and so that could be a really

level and so that could be a really specific play we’re like you want to

specific play we’re like you want to

specific play we’re like you want to build a higher-end coaching program

build a higher-end coaching program

build a higher-end coaching program helping a smaller market if you have a

helping a smaller market if you have a

helping a smaller market if you have a small market you charge more if you have

small market you charge more if you have

small market you charge more if you have a broader market you’ll have to charge

a broader market you’ll have to charge

a broader market you’ll have to charge much you go for mass if you go the

much you go for mass if you go the

much you go for mass if you go the technology route you you know can go a

technology route you you know can go a

technology route you you know can go a bigger scale and build a website or

bigger scale and build a website or

bigger scale and build a website or build an app or build some new piece

build an app or build some new piece

build an app or build some new piece attack that hasn’t been seen before or

attack that hasn’t been seen before or

attack that hasn’t been seen before or find some Frankenstein way to bring all

find some Frankenstein way to bring all

find some Frankenstein way to bring all those things together because it does

those things together because it does

those things together because it does two things 1i helps make you different

two things 1i helps make you different

two things 1i helps make you different and stand out which is important people

and stand out which is important people

and stand out which is important people know what to remember you for in to you

know what to remember you for in to you

know what to remember you for in to you will feel complete and it’s important to

will feel complete and it’s important to

will feel complete and it’s important to feel complete in the work that you’re

feel complete in the work that you’re

feel complete in the work that you’re doing because if you don’t do the tech

doing because if you don’t do the tech

doing because if you don’t do the tech part if you don’t do the sports part

part if you don’t do the sports part

part if you don’t do the sports part you’re always going to feel like this is

you’re always going to feel like this is

you’re always going to feel like this is piece missing and that’s going to eat

piece missing and that’s going to eat

piece missing and that’s going to eat away at you you’re going to want to do

away at you you’re going to want to do

away at you you’re going to want to do something on the side to try to fill

something on the side to try to fill

something on the side to try to fill that need and instead I say instead of

that need and instead I say instead of

that need and instead I say instead of doing on the side bring it into the main

doing on the side bring it into the main

doing on the side bring it into the main thing that you’re doing and that’s going

thing that you’re doing and that’s going

thing that you’re doing and that’s going to help you get a lot more loyal and

to help you get a lot more loyal and

to help you get a lot more loyal and higher paying customers so that’s my

higher paying customers so that’s my

higher paying customers so that’s my advice I love it I love your comment

advice I love it I love your comment

advice I love it I love your comment about Frankenstein that’s hilarious

Frankenstein it I think that’s a new

Frankenstein it I think that’s a new like verb it’s a verb there you go to

like verb it’s a verb there you go to

like verb it’s a verb there you go to Frankenstein I like it cool well uh that

Frankenstein I like it cool well uh that

Frankenstein I like it cool well uh that was a fast game but I love it we did

was a fast game but I love it we did

was a fast game but I love it we did well that the experiment seemed to work

well that the experiment seemed to work

well that the experiment seemed to work we’ll see what happens we’ll see if

we’ll see what happens we’ll see if

we’ll see what happens we’ll see if we’ll see if we she continues to luck

we’ll see if we she continues to luck

we’ll see if we she continues to luck tomorrow I’m sure she can there was

tomorrow I’m sure she can there was

tomorrow I’m sure she can there was chatter in the chat about how I must be

chatter in the chat about how I must be

chatter in the chat about how I must be talker maybe it helps you win the game

talker maybe it helps you win the game

talker maybe it helps you win the game Mussina master I love that cool so what

Mussina master I love that cool so what

Mussina master I love that cool so what Rishi has traditionally ended our

Rishi has traditionally ended our

Rishi has traditionally ended our sessions with a all-encompassing thought

sessions with a all-encompassing thought

sessions with a all-encompassing thought nugget of wisdom to leave us on so what

nugget of wisdom to leave us on so what

nugget of wisdom to leave us on so what do you think Jen from everything we

do you think Jen from everything we

do you think Jen from everything we talked about on this thing on this chat

talked about on this thing on this chat

talked about on this thing on this chat a final thought words of wisdom from jen

a final thought words of wisdom from jen

a final thought words of wisdom from jen to leave us on I think wow that’s a

to leave us on I think wow that’s a

to leave us on I think wow that’s a tough one probably it seems like what

tough one probably it seems like what

tough one probably it seems like what came up again and again was to really

came up again and again was to really

came up again and again was to really look at your what you do different when

look at your what you do different when

look at your what you do different when you how you stand out against your

you how you stand out against your

you how you stand out against your pompous

pompous

pompous and look at how you can provide value

and look at how you can provide value

and look at how you can provide value that nobody else can very cool I love it

that nobody else can very cool I love it

that nobody else can very cool I love it well thank you guys for watching hope

well thank you guys for watching hope

well thank you guys for watching hope you have an amazing day i’m off to what

you have an amazing day i’m off to what

you have an amazing day i’m off to what am I have to do i’m off to do what’s

am I have to do i’m off to do what’s

am I have to do i’m off to do what’s tuesday tuesday I’ve got to finish up

tuesday tuesday I’ve got to finish up

tuesday tuesday I’ve got to finish up some videos for the channel and do some

some videos for the channel and do some

some videos for the channel and do some team mentorship here what are you up to

team mentorship here what are you up to

team mentorship here what are you up to today jen you’re off to LA auto a little

today jen you’re off to LA auto a little

today jen you’re off to LA auto a little bit later yeah super excited are you

bit later yeah super excited are you

bit later yeah super excited are you vlogging that can we see that on your

vlogging that can we see that on your

vlogging that can we see that on your channel sometime soon yeah well I am I

channel sometime soon yeah well I am I

channel sometime soon yeah well I am I be snapchatting it so for those of you

be snapchatting it so for those of you

be snapchatting it so for those of you snappers out there you can catch it on

snappers out there you can catch it on

snappers out there you can catch it on snapchat and then what I’ll probably do

snapchat and then what I’ll probably do

snapchat and then what I’ll probably do is all i’ll probably upload it into a

is all i’ll probably upload it into a

is all i’ll probably upload it into a video also that cool for you it’s pretty

video also that cool for you it’s pretty

video also that cool for you it’s pretty loyal to you too you can get some you

loyal to you too you can get some you

loyal to you too you can get some you can feel very cool and thank you for

can feel very cool and thank you for

can feel very cool and thank you for having me here today Evan and I

having me here today Evan and I

having me here today Evan and I appreciate it with fun set this up in 4

appreciate it with fun set this up in 4

appreciate it with fun set this up in 4 BC and freaky thing for all your great

BC and freaky thing for all your great

BC and freaky thing for all your great wisdom you rocked it your acted i love

wisdom you rocked it your acted i love

wisdom you rocked it your acted i love the answers cool well thank you guys for

the answers cool well thank you guys for

the answers cool well thank you guys for watching you have an amazing day we

watching you have an amazing day we

watching you have an amazing day we believe in you we hope you continue to

believe in you we hope you continue to

believe in you we hope you continue to believe to fantasy to cup to rise where

believe to fantasy to cup to rise where

believe to fantasy to cup to rise where it is so keep out into the look is it

it is so keep out into the look is it

it is so keep out into the look is it right down your fantasies that’s worth

right down your fantasies that’s worth

right down your fantasies that’s worth make it real people I love it which love

make it real people I love it which love

make it real people I love it which love guys we’ll see you soon

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