this is Kirk he suffered for depression for five years he tried antidepressants
for five years he tried antidepressants
for five years he tried antidepressants talking therapy and nothing helped in
talking therapy and nothing helped in
talking therapy and nothing helped in May 2015 in Imperial College he was
May 2015 in Imperial College he was
May 2015 in Imperial College he was given psilocybin also known as magic
given psilocybin also known as magic
given psilocybin also known as magic mushrooms and since that time he’s been
mushrooms and since that time he’s been
mushrooms and since that time he’s been depression free this is Ben he suffered
depression free this is Ben he suffered
depression free this is Ben he suffered from depression for thirty years and in
from depression for thirty years and in
from depression for thirty years and in that time he tried everything CBT group
that time he tried everything CBT group
that time he tried everything CBT group therapy a list of medications prescribed
therapy a list of medications prescribed
therapy a list of medications prescribed to him by his doctor and nothing helped
to him by his doctor and nothing helped
to him by his doctor and nothing helped in June 2015 he was given psilocybin and
in June 2015 he was given psilocybin and
in June 2015 he was given psilocybin and since that time he has been depression
since that time he has been depression
since that time he has been depression free not only had the symptoms of his
free not only had the symptoms of his
free not only had the symptoms of his depression gone but in the last year he
depression gone but in the last year he
depression gone but in the last year he has done an acting course a printing
has done an acting course a printing
has done an acting course a printing course he’s flown on a plane for the
course he’s flown on a plane for the
course he’s flown on a plane for the first time in a decade and his career
first time in a decade and his career
first time in a decade and his career and social life are flourishing I can’t
and social life are flourishing I can’t
and social life are flourishing I can’t show you his face because magic
show you his face because magic
show you his face because magic mushrooms are an illegal psychedelic
mushrooms are an illegal psychedelic
mushrooms are an illegal psychedelic drug and he’s asked to remain anonymous
drug and he’s asked to remain anonymous
drug and he’s asked to remain anonymous magic mushrooms you might think of the
magic mushrooms you might think of the
magic mushrooms you might think of the 60s dropping out jumping out of windows
60s dropping out jumping out of windows
60s dropping out jumping out of windows thinking you can fly you might think of
thinking you can fly you might think of
thinking you can fly you might think of going crazy quite the opposite of what
going crazy quite the opposite of what
going crazy quite the opposite of what magic mushrooms did to to bed into Kirk
magic mushrooms did to to bed into Kirk
magic mushrooms did to to bed into Kirk and despite its bad reputation we need
and despite its bad reputation we need
and despite its bad reputation we need to ask the question what does this
to ask the question what does this
to ask the question what does this mushroom know that we don’t what does it
mushroom know that we don’t what does it
mushroom know that we don’t what does it do that we can’t I’m a clinical
do that we can’t I’m a clinical
do that we can’t I’m a clinical psychologist at the psychedelic research
psychologist at the psychedelic research
psychologist at the psychedelic research group at Imperial it’s a vibrant group
group at Imperial it’s a vibrant group
group at Imperial it’s a vibrant group of scientists and clinicians asking
of scientists and clinicians asking
of scientists and clinicians asking these very unconventional questions in a
these very unconventional questions in a
these very unconventional questions in a most conventional way it is led by Robin
most conventional way it is led by Robin
most conventional way it is led by Robin Carhartt Harris he’s a pioneering
Carhartt Harris he’s a pioneering
Carhartt Harris he’s a pioneering neuroscientist and also overseen by
neuroscientist and also overseen by
neuroscientist and also overseen by David Nutt who was a world-renowned
David Nutt who was a world-renowned
David Nutt who was a world-renowned psychopharmacologist and together they
psychopharmacologist and together they
psychopharmacologist and together they cut through ribbons and ribbons of red
cut through ribbons and ribbons of red
cut through ribbons and ribbons of red tape so that we could do the first
tape so that we could do the first
tape so that we could do the first psilocybin for depression study last
psilocybin for depression study last
psilocybin for depression study last year and in the study 20 individuals
year and in the study 20 individuals
year and in the study 20 individuals with treatment resistant depression
with treatment resistant depression
with treatment resistant depression were given a high dose of psilocybin in
were given a high dose of psilocybin in
were given a high dose of psilocybin in a therapeutic setting now the numbers
a therapeutic setting now the numbers
a therapeutic setting now the numbers may seem small but the results were
may seem small but the results were
may seem small but the results were remarkable we kept seeing these drops in
remarkable we kept seeing these drops in
remarkable we kept seeing these drops in their depression scores after the
their depression scores after the
their depression scores after the psilocybin treatment over and over again
psilocybin treatment over and over again
psilocybin treatment over and over again their symptoms of depression were going
their symptoms of depression were going
their symptoms of depression were going right down much bigger reductions in
right down much bigger reductions in
right down much bigger reductions in depression scores than you would expect
depression scores than you would expect
depression scores than you would expect to see in trials of conventional
to see in trials of conventional
to see in trials of conventional treatments like antidepressants and
treatments like antidepressants and
treatments like antidepressants and talking therapy the depression scores
talking therapy the depression scores
talking therapy the depression scores were going right down and they were
were going right down and they were
were going right down and they were staying down six months after the dose
staying down six months after the dose
staying down six months after the dose six of them were still in remission no
six of them were still in remission no
six of them were still in remission no symptoms of depression three of them
symptoms of depression three of them
symptoms of depression three of them didn’t really respond to the drug so
didn’t really respond to the drug so
didn’t really respond to the drug so there were small reductions in their
there were small reductions in their
there were small reductions in their depression but only for about a week but
depression but only for about a week but
depression but only for about a week but for 11 their depression was greatly
for 11 their depression was greatly
for 11 their depression was greatly reduced for about two months and then
reduced for about two months and then
reduced for about two months and then the symptoms of depression started to
the symptoms of depression started to
the symptoms of depression started to creep back again now that might sound
creep back again now that might sound
creep back again now that might sound very disappointing but with
very disappointing but with
very disappointing but with antidepressants you have to take them
antidepressants you have to take them
antidepressants you have to take them every day they have some unpleasant side
every day they have some unpleasant side
every day they have some unpleasant side effects it takes weeks for them to work
effects it takes weeks for them to work
effects it takes weeks for them to work and they are a palliative treatment not
and they are a palliative treatment not
and they are a palliative treatment not a cure but with psilocybin treatment we
a cure but with psilocybin treatment we
a cure but with psilocybin treatment we were seeing immediate reductions in
were seeing immediate reductions in
were seeing immediate reductions in depression symptoms immediate relief
depression symptoms immediate relief
depression symptoms immediate relief that last four months without side
that last four months without side
that last four months without side effects and it seemed to be working on
effects and it seemed to be working on
effects and it seemed to be working on the root causes rather than just
the root causes rather than just
the root causes rather than just suppressing symptoms depression is a
suppressing symptoms depression is a
suppressing symptoms depression is a relentless haunting affliction Winston
relentless haunting affliction Winston
relentless haunting affliction Winston Churchill calls it the Black Dog
Churchill calls it the Black Dog
Churchill calls it the Black Dog patients in a study called it a concrete
patients in a study called it a concrete
patients in a study called it a concrete coat a sack over the head a locked box a
coat a sack over the head a locked box a
coat a sack over the head a locked box a prison
prison
prison they had tried between 3 and 11
they had tried between 3 and 11
they had tried between 3 and 11 different types of talking therapy and
different types of talking therapy and
different types of talking therapy and after sorry 3 and 11 types of
after sorry 3 and 11 types of
after sorry 3 and 11 types of antidepressant and six types of talking
antidepressant and six types of talking
antidepressant and six types of talking therapy but nothing had released them
therapy but nothing had released them
therapy but nothing had released them they were stuck in their individual
they were stuck in their individual
they were stuck in their individual prisons of depression and they’re not
prisons of depression and they’re not
prisons of depression and they’re not the odd ones out we are entering an
the odd ones out we are entering an
the odd ones out we are entering an epidemic of depression it’s the number
epidemic of depression it’s the number
epidemic of depression it’s the number one cause of disability globally and it
one cause of disability globally and it
one cause of disability globally and it will affect everyone in this room either
will affect everyone in this room either
will affect everyone in this room either someone you care about or you directly
someone you care about or you directly
someone you care about or you directly and we don’t understand depression we
and we don’t understand depression we
and we don’t understand depression we don’t really know what causes it and
don’t really know what causes it and
don’t really know what causes it and despite enormous scientific endeavor we
despite enormous scientific endeavor we
despite enormous scientific endeavor we have not yet found a complete a
have not yet found a complete a
have not yet found a complete a conclusive cure we don’t really
conclusive cure we don’t really
conclusive cure we don’t really understand it it it’s a complex mixture
understand it it it’s a complex mixture
understand it it it’s a complex mixture of so many different factors and when it
of so many different factors and when it
of so many different factors and when it hits it can be a wave of sadness shame
hits it can be a wave of sadness shame
hits it can be a wave of sadness shame and grief or it can be just a shroud
and grief or it can be just a shroud
and grief or it can be just a shroud that kills all feelings and it’s not it
that kills all feelings and it’s not it
that kills all feelings and it’s not it illness that we can just test for and
illness that we can just test for and
illness that we can just test for and treat is different for every person so
treat is different for every person so
treat is different for every person so how to unlock depression the key is
how to unlock depression the key is
how to unlock depression the key is never simple and it will be different
never simple and it will be different
never simple and it will be different for each person
so in our study we were originally
so in our study we were originally looking at the effect of psilocybin on
looking at the effect of psilocybin on
looking at the effect of psilocybin on the patient’s brains so it makes the
the patient’s brains so it makes the
the patient’s brains so it makes the rain go from rigid to flexible
rain go from rigid to flexible
rain go from rigid to flexible hyper-connected you could say that it
hyper-connected you could say that it
hyper-connected you could say that it unlocks the brain so in our study we did
unlocks the brain so in our study we did
unlocks the brain so in our study we did these brain scans and we could see this
these brain scans and we could see this
these brain scans and we could see this increased flexibility and we also in
increased flexibility and we also in
increased flexibility and we also in Crete included a symptom measure so we
Crete included a symptom measure so we
Crete included a symptom measure so we could see that depression symptoms were
could see that depression symptoms were
could see that depression symptoms were going right down but that doesn’t tell
going right down but that doesn’t tell
going right down but that doesn’t tell the full story we wanted to know from
the full story we wanted to know from
the full story we wanted to know from patients in their own words what was
patients in their own words what was
patients in their own words what was happening what was the psilocybin doing
happening what was the psilocybin doing
happening what was the psilocybin doing so we interviewed them all six months
so we interviewed them all six months
so we interviewed them all six months after the dose and we analyzed the
after the dose and we analyzed the
after the dose and we analyzed the interview traps transcripts and came up
interview traps transcripts and came up
interview traps transcripts and came up with two themes about what psilocybin
with two themes about what psilocybin
with two themes about what psilocybin was doing but before I get onto those
was doing but before I get onto those
was doing but before I get onto those themes I think maybe actually clarify
themes I think maybe actually clarify
themes I think maybe actually clarify what a psychedelic experiences so
what a psychedelic experiences so
what a psychedelic experiences so psychedelics allow the unconscious mind
psychedelics allow the unconscious mind
psychedelics allow the unconscious mind to become conscious important material
to become conscious important material
to become conscious important material that has been built up over the course
that has been built up over the course
that has been built up over the course of life but that is being pushed out of
of life but that is being pushed out of
of life but that is being pushed out of sight where you can’t see it emerges
sight where you can’t see it emerges
sight where you can’t see it emerges like it’s kind of crumpled clothes that
like it’s kind of crumpled clothes that
like it’s kind of crumpled clothes that you push to the back of your wardrobe
you push to the back of your wardrobe
you push to the back of your wardrobe and it emerges it comes out you don’t
and it emerges it comes out you don’t
and it emerges it comes out you don’t just see it you embody it memories
just see it you embody it memories
just see it you embody it memories emotions pain love grief whatever has
emotions pain love grief whatever has
emotions pain love grief whatever has been hidden emerges and demands you feel
been hidden emerges and demands you feel
been hidden emerges and demands you feel it it can be incredibly painful and
it it can be incredibly painful and
it it can be incredibly painful and incredibly beautiful patients in our
incredibly beautiful patients in our
incredibly beautiful patients in our study described overall having three
study described overall having three
study described overall having three main types of experience so firstly
main types of experience so firstly
main types of experience so firstly visiting past traumas secondly having
visiting past traumas secondly having
visiting past traumas secondly having insights about your life negative
insights about your life negative
insights about your life negative patterns and how to change them and
patterns and how to change them and
patterns and how to change them and thirdly these connect these experiences
thirdly these connect these experiences
thirdly these connect these experiences of harmony and and connection and unity
of harmony and and connection and unity
of harmony and and connection and unity and sometimes they would have all three
and sometimes they would have all three
and sometimes they would have all three experiences in the course of one day
experiences in the course of one day
experiences in the course of one day sync session so here’s our treatment
sync session so here’s our treatment
sync session so here’s our treatment room and you would have the two
room and you would have the two
room and you would have the two therapists either side of the patient
therapists either side of the patient
therapists either side of the patient they’d be given ice shades and asked to
they’d be given ice shades and asked to
they’d be given ice shades and asked to sit back and listen to the music and
sit back and listen to the music and
sit back and listen to the music and just surrender to whatever comes up and
just surrender to whatever comes up and
just surrender to whatever comes up and they would have had sessions with the
they would have had sessions with the
they would have had sessions with the therapists before
therapists before
therapists before and so that they trusted them and they
and so that they trusted them and they
and so that they trusted them and they felt safe but the therapist doesn’t
felt safe but the therapist doesn’t
felt safe but the therapist doesn’t structure the sessions at all or direct
structure the sessions at all or direct
structure the sessions at all or direct the content in any way but there was a
the content in any way but there was a
the content in any way but there was a structure two sessions there was a
structure two sessions there was a
structure two sessions there was a beginning a middle and an end and a flow
beginning a middle and an end and a flow
beginning a middle and an end and a flow of ideas and symbols that built on each
of ideas and symbols that built on each
of ideas and symbols that built on each other in the most sophisticated way as
other in the most sophisticated way as
other in the most sophisticated way as if as if it had been planned by a most
if as if it had been planned by a most
if as if it had been planned by a most excellent therapist now in my previous
excellent therapist now in my previous
excellent therapist now in my previous work as a non psychedelic psychologist I
work as a non psychedelic psychologist I
work as a non psychedelic psychologist I would provide him talking therapies in
would provide him talking therapies in
would provide him talking therapies in the NHS I would I would plan my sessions
the NHS I would I would plan my sessions
the NHS I would I would plan my sessions for my patients and think how can I help
for my patients and think how can I help
for my patients and think how can I help them talk about traumatic experiences or
them talk about traumatic experiences or
them talk about traumatic experiences or how could I help them get a different
how could I help them get a different
how could I help them get a different perspective or develop some self
perspective or develop some self
perspective or develop some self compassion or some motivation for change
compassion or some motivation for change
compassion or some motivation for change and I try and instill all these things
and I try and instill all these things
and I try and instill all these things but it’s all coming from the therapist
but it’s all coming from the therapist
but it’s all coming from the therapist the patient experiences it somehow
the patient experiences it somehow
the patient experiences it somehow outside of themselves and it sometimes
outside of themselves and it sometimes
outside of themselves and it sometimes just misses the mark but with the
just misses the mark but with the
just misses the mark but with the psilocybin sessions I was witnessing
psilocybin sessions I was witnessing
psilocybin sessions I was witnessing patients go on their own journeys of
patients go on their own journeys of
patients go on their own journeys of healing the ideas all came from inside
healing the ideas all came from inside
healing the ideas all came from inside themselves and they were powerful and
themselves and they were powerful and
themselves and they were powerful and transformative because the lessons were
transformative because the lessons were
transformative because the lessons were were planned by the most accurate
were planned by the most accurate
were planned by the most accurate therapists there is themselves so the
therapists there is themselves so the
therapists there is themselves so the themes what did the patients say the
themes what did the patients say the
themes what did the patients say the psilocybin did
okay click a broken can I have another
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click done okay okay so the next slide
click done okay okay so the next slide isn’t coming up but I’ll tell you what
isn’t coming up but I’ll tell you what
isn’t coming up but I’ll tell you what it says it says that the first theme was
it says it says that the first theme was
it says it says that the first theme was of an inner unlocking so patients
of an inner unlocking so patients
of an inner unlocking so patients described going from being emotionally
described going from being emotionally
described going from being emotionally locked up inside to being emotionally
locked up inside to being emotionally
locked up inside to being emotionally liberated they they described going from
liberated they they described going from
liberated they they described going from being a void of emotion to accepting
being a void of emotion to accepting
being a void of emotion to accepting emotion so they talked about how in
emotion so they talked about how in
emotion so they talked about how in depression when stressful or painful
depression when stressful or painful
depression when stressful or painful painful things happened
painful things happened
painful things happened emotions were distance or suppressed
emotions were distance or suppressed
emotions were distance or suppressed they our society doesn’t really value
they our society doesn’t really value
they our society doesn’t really value suffering it’s seen as a weakness
suffering it’s seen as a weakness
suffering it’s seen as a weakness so they’d learned to put their feelings
so they’d learned to put their feelings
so they’d learned to put their feelings in boxes Sam remembered growing up and
in boxes Sam remembered growing up and
in boxes Sam remembered growing up and being told boys don’t cry so he learned
being told boys don’t cry so he learned
being told boys don’t cry so he learned to suffer in silence and many of the
to suffer in silence and many of the
to suffer in silence and many of the patients just they weren’t they couldn’t
patients just they weren’t they couldn’t
patients just they weren’t they couldn’t deal with their feelings because so much
deal with their feelings because so much
deal with their feelings because so much had happened in their lives they had so
had happened in their lives they had so
had happened in their lives they had so many years of hurt they just didn’t have
many years of hurt they just didn’t have
many years of hurt they just didn’t have the resources to face it all and they
the resources to face it all and they
the resources to face it all and they had many different ways of avoiding
had many different ways of avoiding
had many different ways of avoiding their pain self-medicating through
their pain self-medicating through
their pain self-medicating through through food through television through
through food through television through
through food through television through painkillers and then often through
painkillers and then often through
painkillers and then often through antidepressants which didn’t really work
antidepressants which didn’t really work
antidepressants which didn’t really work on the root causes of their suffering
on the root causes of their suffering
on the root causes of their suffering just none the worse of the pain but they
just none the worse of the pain but they
just none the worse of the pain but they also numbed other emotions too and so
also numbed other emotions too and so
also numbed other emotions too and so many of the patients described feeling
many of the patients described feeling
many of the patients described feeling numb and unable to feel many of them had
numb and unable to feel many of them had
numb and unable to feel many of them had described experiencing trauma in their
described experiencing trauma in their
described experiencing trauma in their lives often in early childhood and
lives often in early childhood and
lives often in early childhood and they’ve never been able to process it or
they’ve never been able to process it or
they’ve never been able to process it or think about what had happened and in the
think about what had happened and in the
think about what had happened and in the psilocybin experiences they were able to
psilocybin experiences they were able to
psilocybin experiences they were able to process these things John where’s dawn
John here John
John here John he had suffered from abuse in childhood
he had suffered from abuse in childhood
he had suffered from abuse in childhood and in his psilocybin dose he saw a
and in his psilocybin dose he saw a
and in his psilocybin dose he saw a great big cask and he knew that in that
great big cask and he knew that in that
great big cask and he knew that in that cask with all of his pain and shame that
cask with all of his pain and shame that
cask with all of his pain and shame that he’d never been able to think or talk
he’d never been able to think or talk
he’d never been able to think or talk about and he grappled with it it was
about and he grappled with it it was
about and he grappled with it it was extremely painful but in the course of
extremely painful but in the course of
extremely painful but in the course of the session he was able to unlock that
the session he was able to unlock that
the session he was able to unlock that box and accept his past and it was so
box and accept his past and it was so
box and accept his past and it was so powerful many of them cried for the
powerful many of them cried for the
powerful many of them cried for the first time in years this cathartic
first time in years this cathartic
first time in years this cathartic experience of accepting emotion and just
experience of accepting emotion and just
experience of accepting emotion and just being able to live it we thought in six
being able to live it we thought in six
being able to live it we thought in six hours what you would often see in six
hours what you would often see in six
hours what you would often see in six years
years
years of therapy and now the second theme is
of therapy and now the second theme is
of therapy and now the second theme is of an outer unlocking so they describe
of an outer unlocking so they describe
of an outer unlocking so they describe going from disconnection to connection
going from disconnection to connection
going from disconnection to connection so they talked about depression as a
so they talked about depression as a
so they talked about depression as a gradual turning inward slowly becoming
gradual turning inward slowly becoming
gradual turning inward slowly becoming disconnected from from the people you
disconnected from from the people you
disconnected from from the people you love from your identity and becoming
love from your identity and becoming
love from your identity and becoming just kind of trapped in their minds
just kind of trapped in their minds
just kind of trapped in their minds trapped in a small corner of their minds
trapped in a small corner of their minds
trapped in a small corner of their minds locked there with constant negative
locked there with constant negative
locked there with constant negative thinking attacking them all the time and
thinking attacking them all the time and
thinking attacking them all the time and the psilocybin started a process of
the psilocybin started a process of
the psilocybin started a process of reconnection so been described it this
reconnection so been described it this
reconnection so been described it this way he said it was like when you defrag
way he said it was like when you defrag
way he said it was like when you defrag the hard drive on your computer I
the hard drive on your computer I
the hard drive on your computer I experience things being rearranged in my
experience things being rearranged in my
experience things being rearranged in my mind I witnessed it as it was all put
mind I witnessed it as it was all put
mind I witnessed it as it was all put into order and I thought my brain is
into order and I thought my brain is
into order and I thought my brain is being defrag how brilliant is that and
being defrag how brilliant is that and
being defrag how brilliant is that and since that time my thoughts make sense
since that time my thoughts make sense
since that time my thoughts make sense and I ruminate less and other patients
and I ruminate less and other patients
and I ruminate less and other patients describe the same process but in a
describe the same process but in a
describe the same process but in a different way some described as the fog
different way some described as the fog
different way some described as the fog lifting or being able to see clearly
lifting or being able to see clearly
lifting or being able to see clearly John said it was like turning on the
John said it was like turning on the
John said it was like turning on the lights in a dark house and after that
lights in a dark house and after that
lights in a dark house and after that mental reboot they were able to connect
mental reboot they were able to connect
mental reboot they were able to connect to their senses they were connect to
to their senses they were connect to
to their senses they were connect to their their self their identity Kirk
their their self their identity Kirk
their their self their identity Kirk said he felt like he was gliding through
said he felt like he was gliding through
said he felt like he was gliding through life and they could connect through
life and they could connect through
life and they could connect through other people John went for dinner with
other people John went for dinner with
other people John went for dinner with his wife for the first time in seven
his wife for the first time in seven
his wife for the first time in seven years and said that they were like
years and said that they were like
years and said that they were like teenagers again many of them felt a
teenagers again many of them felt a
teenagers again many of them felt a connection to nature they didn’t just
connection to nature they didn’t just
connection to nature they didn’t just see nature as a thing like a television
see nature as a thing like a television
see nature as a thing like a television or a picture but they felt part of it
or a picture but they felt part of it
or a picture but they felt part of it and they collected to a spiritual
and they collected to a spiritual
and they collected to a spiritual principle for the first time some of
principle for the first time some of
principle for the first time some of them overall they went from being
them overall they went from being
them overall they went from being trapped being unlocked expanded and free
so altered states of consciousness have
so altered states of consciousness have been held in high esteem for thousands
been held in high esteem for thousands
been held in high esteem for thousands of years around the world but the
of years around the world but the
of years around the world but the scientific research is in its infancy
scientific research is in its infancy
scientific research is in its infancy and we’re excited to be doing a bigger
and we’re excited to be doing a bigger
and we’re excited to be doing a bigger study this year but we’re still treading
study this year but we’re still treading
study this year but we’re still treading carefully we don’t know so much about it
carefully we don’t know so much about it
carefully we don’t know so much about it yet and it won’t be right for everyone
yet and it won’t be right for everyone
yet and it won’t be right for everyone so we’re treading carefully and we’re
so we’re treading carefully and we’re
so we’re treading carefully and we’re going to learn so much over the next
going to learn so much over the next
going to learn so much over the next five years about how and when psilocybin
five years about how and when psilocybin
five years about how and when psilocybin it can help us but I believe that it
it can help us but I believe that it
it can help us but I believe that it could revolutionize mental healthcare
could revolutionize mental healthcare
could revolutionize mental healthcare patience in our study described all
patience in our study described all
patience in our study described all these superficial treatments short-term
these superficial treatments short-term
these superficial treatments short-term therapies sticking plasters that didn’t
therapies sticking plasters that didn’t
therapies sticking plasters that didn’t help nothing had ever helped because
help nothing had ever helped because
help nothing had ever helped because nothing had ever got to the heart of
nothing had ever got to the heart of
nothing had ever got to the heart of their pain and in this epidemic of
their pain and in this epidemic of
their pain and in this epidemic of depression there are so many people in
depression there are so many people in
depression there are so many people in need so many people need help and the
need so many people need help and the
need so many people need help and the NHS can’t afford to provide long term
NHS can’t afford to provide long term
NHS can’t afford to provide long term treatments and years and years of
treatments and years and years of
treatments and years and years of psychotherapy for everyone but I believe
psychotherapy for everyone but I believe
psychotherapy for everyone but I believe that if we incorporate psilocybin into
that if we incorporate psilocybin into
that if we incorporate psilocybin into existing short-term therapies like the
existing short-term therapies like the
existing short-term therapies like the therapies I used to work in that we can
therapies I used to work in that we can
therapies I used to work in that we can make them so much more effective so much
make them so much more effective so much
make them so much more effective so much more powerful its supplementing therapy
more powerful its supplementing therapy
more powerful its supplementing therapy with a medicine that lets you find a way
with a medicine that lets you find a way
with a medicine that lets you find a way out of your suffering rather than just
out of your suffering rather than just
out of your suffering rather than just padding the cage so can magic mushrooms
padding the cage so can magic mushrooms
padding the cage so can magic mushrooms unlock depression the answer is no it’s
unlock depression the answer is no it’s
unlock depression the answer is no it’s not the mushroom that unlocks depression
not the mushroom that unlocks depression
not the mushroom that unlocks depression it’s the patient the mushroom just shows
it’s the patient the mushroom just shows
it’s the patient the mushroom just shows them the key
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