good morning believe nation today I thought I’d try something a little bit
thought I’d try something a little bit
thought I’d try something a little bit different with a brand new series on my
different with a brand new series on my
different with a brand new series on my channel called making it where we look
channel called making it where we look
channel called making it where we look at how to make it in a particular field
at how to make it in a particular field
at how to make it in a particular field as a particular kind of artist is a
as a particular kind of artist is a
as a particular kind of artist is a particular kind of entrepreneur and take
particular kind of entrepreneur and take
particular kind of entrepreneur and take lessons with people who’ve already gone
lessons with people who’ve already gone
lessons with people who’ve already gone out and accomplished that they’ve
out and accomplished that they’ve
out and accomplished that they’ve already made it so today we’re going to
already made it so today we’re going to
already made it so today we’re going to talk about making it as a musician and
talk about making it as a musician and
talk about making it as a musician and as usual as you guys watch this video if
as usual as you guys watch this video if
as usual as you guys watch this video if there’s something that you really love
there’s something that you really love
there’s something that you really love you’re really learning something that
you’re really learning something that
you’re really learning something that somebody said that really resonates with
somebody said that really resonates with
somebody said that really resonates with you leave it in the comments and put
you leave it in the comments and put
you leave it in the comments and put quotes around it to other people can be
quotes around it to other people can be
quotes around it to other people can be inspired as well I want to tell you the
inspired as well I want to tell you the
inspired as well I want to tell you the most important piece of information that
most important piece of information that
most important piece of information that applies not only to your musical career
applies not only to your musical career
applies not only to your musical career but your entire life and I’ve seen it
but your entire life and I’ve seen it
but your entire life and I’ve seen it work and I’ve seen it not work and it’s
work and I’ve seen it not work and it’s
work and I’ve seen it not work and it’s a hundred percent true number one thing
a hundred percent true number one thing
a hundred percent true number one thing you have to do before you set out on any
you have to do before you set out on any
you have to do before you set out on any other goal or any other course is to
other goal or any other course is to
other goal or any other course is to define your expectations number one
define your expectations number one
define your expectations number one thing on the outset of every single
thing on the outset of every single
thing on the outset of every single project record tour define your
project record tour define your
project record tour define your expectations everyone in this room wants
expectations everyone in this room wants
expectations everyone in this room wants to make it but I question how you would
to make it but I question how you would
to make it but I question how you would recognize making it what is making it
recognize making it what is making it
recognize making it what is making it well what do you want to be who you in
well what do you want to be who you in
well what do you want to be who you in here wants a record deal would it be
here wants a record deal would it be
here wants a record deal would it be nice to ever be nice have a record deal
nice to ever be nice have a record deal
nice to ever be nice have a record deal right we want a record deal okay well
right we want a record deal okay well
right we want a record deal okay well what is a record deal look like how what
what is a record deal look like how what
what is a record deal look like how what is making it look like do you want to
is making it look like do you want to
is making it look like do you want to sell a million copies two million copies
sell a million copies two million copies
sell a million copies two million copies well okay let’s say selling two million
well okay let’s say selling two million
well okay let’s say selling two million copies is like selling town 10 million
copies is like selling town 10 million
copies is like selling town 10 million copies 10 years ago so let’s say you say
copies 10 years ago so let’s say you say
copies 10 years ago so let’s say you say to yourself my expectation is that I
to yourself my expectation is that I
to yourself my expectation is that I want to be an artist and I want to put
want to be an artist and I want to put
want to be an artist and I want to put records out and I want to sell millions
records out and I want to sell millions
records out and I want to sell millions of copies if that’s your expectation
of copies if that’s your expectation
of copies if that’s your expectation great then you sort of skip straight to
great then you sort of skip straight to
great then you sort of skip straight to another questionnaire you know okay if
another questionnaire you know okay if
another questionnaire you know okay if you answered yes to do I want to be a
you answered yes to do I want to be a
you answered yes to do I want to be a pop star do I want to make music for as
pop star do I want to make music for as
pop star do I want to make music for as many people as possible now you have to
many people as possible now you have to
many people as possible now you have to sort of change your game to fit the
sort of change your game to fit the
sort of change your game to fit the expectation you now have to wonder about
expectation you now have to wonder about
expectation you now have to wonder about is your song shorter than four minutes
is your song shorter than four minutes
is your song shorter than four minutes do you get to your core as fast enough
do you get to your core as fast enough
do you get to your core as fast enough these are these are the things you have
these are these are the things you have
these are these are the things you have to absolutely do and you also have to
to absolutely do and you also have to
to absolutely do and you also have to compromise and you also have to play the
compromise and you also have to play the
compromise and you also have to play the game you know um
game you know um
game you know um who in here thinks that the public is
who in here thinks that the public is
who in here thinks that the public is mostly done you think the public is
mostly done you think the public is
mostly done you think the public is mostly done let me tell you something
mostly done let me tell you something
mostly done let me tell you something the public is about 300 million times
the public is about 300 million times
the public is about 300 million times smarter than you public is not done for
smarter than you public is not done for
smarter than you public is not done for those of you said yes I want to be a pop
those of you said yes I want to be a pop
those of you said yes I want to be a pop star yes I would like to have a record
star yes I would like to have a record
star yes I would like to have a record deal yes I’d like to make this happen
deal yes I’d like to make this happen
deal yes I’d like to make this happen first thing you should know is that the
first thing you should know is that the
first thing you should know is that the public is always smarter than you if you
public is always smarter than you if you
public is always smarter than you if you put a song out you go that’s it that’s
put a song out you go that’s it that’s
put a song out you go that’s it that’s it watch it go like whew stand back
it watch it go like whew stand back
it watch it go like whew stand back everybody stand back it’s going to be an
everybody stand back it’s going to be an
everybody stand back it’s going to be an it it’s going to be a hit it’s going to
it it’s going to be a hit it’s going to
it it’s going to be a hit it’s going to be a hit it goes like this who is
be a hit it goes like this who is
be a hit it goes like this who is smarter than who your big smart pop song
smarter than who your big smart pop song
smarter than who your big smart pop song went nowhere
went nowhere
went nowhere the public just told you they’re smarter
the public just told you they’re smarter
the public just told you they’re smarter than you on that one because you said
than you on that one because you said
than you on that one because you said you had it and they said I don’t think
you had it and they said I don’t think
you had it and they said I don’t think so and you didn’t have it so they’re
so and you didn’t have it so they’re
so and you didn’t have it so they’re smarter than you that’s what you have to
smarter than you that’s what you have to
smarter than you that’s what you have to deal with they’re smarter
and by defining your expectations if you
and by defining your expectations if you decide that you want to be a pop star
decide that you want to be a pop star
decide that you want to be a pop star that’s not a dirty word
that’s not a dirty word
that’s not a dirty word it just means pop just means popular
it just means pop just means popular
it just means pop just means popular Frank Sinatra was a pop star Jimi
Frank Sinatra was a pop star Jimi
Frank Sinatra was a pop star Jimi Hendrix was a pop star lots of people
Hendrix was a pop star lots of people
Hendrix was a pop star lots of people would pop stars
would pop stars
would pop stars what kind of pop star lots people are
what kind of pop star lots people are
what kind of pop star lots people are jazz musicians what kind of jazz
jazz musicians what kind of jazz
jazz musicians what kind of jazz musician you can define the genre any
musician you can define the genre any
musician you can define the genre any way you want so if you said you want to
way you want so if you said you want to
way you want so if you said you want to be a pop star then you have to look at
be a pop star then you have to look at
be a pop star then you have to look at your songs there’s also people here who
your songs there’s also people here who
your songs there’s also people here who are a little dishonest about what they
are a little dishonest about what they
are a little dishonest about what they really want to be and I think if you
really want to be and I think if you
really want to be and I think if you want to be famous if you want to make
want to be famous if you want to make
want to be famous if you want to make music for as many people as possible
music for as many people as possible
music for as many people as possible just come out and say it
just come out and say it
just come out and say it don’t say I want to be indie I’m just
don’t say I want to be indie I’m just
don’t say I want to be indie I’m just going to be an independent artist and
going to be an independent artist and
going to be an independent artist and really secretly wish that you wanted to
really secretly wish that you wanted to
really secretly wish that you wanted to be a pop star
be a pop star
be a pop star because from think from them from the
because from think from them from the
because from think from them from the very beginning it’s disingenuous there’s
very beginning it’s disingenuous there’s
very beginning it’s disingenuous there’s nothing wrong with saying I want to play
nothing wrong with saying I want to play
nothing wrong with saying I want to play music for as many people as possible
music for as many people as possible
music for as many people as possible without compromising the things that I
without compromising the things that I
without compromising the things that I have to be as an artist and that’s what
have to be as an artist and that’s what
have to be as an artist and that’s what I’ve done so many music doesn’t come
I’ve done so many music doesn’t come
I’ve done so many music doesn’t come into the studio when I’m making a record
into the studio when I’m making a record
into the studio when I’m making a record but I also know what’s going to be a hit
but I also know what’s going to be a hit
but I also know what’s going to be a hit or what stands the chance of being a hit
or what stands the chance of being a hit
or what stands the chance of being a hit and what just doesn’t and it’s a level
and what just doesn’t and it’s a level
and what just doesn’t and it’s a level of honesty with yourself that you have
of honesty with yourself that you have
of honesty with yourself that you have to have before you hand your music out
to have before you hand your music out
to have before you hand your music out to anybody else so that’s sort of what I
to anybody else so that’s sort of what I
to anybody else so that’s sort of what I want to say about expectations if you
want to say about expectations if you
want to say about expectations if you only recognize success as a record deal
only recognize success as a record deal
only recognize success as a record deal and a big fat Publishers Clearing House
and a big fat Publishers Clearing House
and a big fat Publishers Clearing House oversized Tiger Woods check and a dinner
oversized Tiger Woods check and a dinner
oversized Tiger Woods check and a dinner and then going to the top of the roof
and then going to the top of the roof
and then going to the top of the roof and screaming I made it most of you will
and screaming I made it most of you will
and screaming I made it most of you will be stunning failures I’ll tell you right
be stunning failures I’ll tell you right
be stunning failures I’ll tell you right now most of you I didn’t do it that way
now most of you I didn’t do it that way
now most of you I didn’t do it that way but if you define success by putting out
but if you define success by putting out
but if you define success by putting out your first record and selling 5,000
your first record and selling 5,000
your first record and selling 5,000 copies I’m going to have sushi when you
copies I’m going to have sushi when you
copies I’m going to have sushi when you say yeah I got 5,000 cup when I saw
say yeah I got 5,000 cup when I saw
say yeah I got 5,000 cup when I saw 5,000 copies I’m going to consider this
5,000 copies I’m going to consider this
5,000 copies I’m going to consider this a success that’s the difference between
a success that’s the difference between
a success that’s the difference between people who walk this earth happy and
people who walk this earth happy and
people who walk this earth happy and people who walked earth constantly
people who walked earth constantly
people who walked earth constantly unfulfilled because they’ve never
unfulfilled because they’ve never
unfulfilled because they’ve never defined the finish line
defined the finish line
defined the finish line I know artists who sold 2 million
I know artists who sold 2 million
I know artists who sold 2 million records it’s not enough because I never
records it’s not enough because I never
records it’s not enough because I never said what making it was going to be they
said what making it was going to be they
said what making it was going to be they just
just
just they had this feeling like it was their
they had this feeling like it was their
they had this feeling like it was their life they were just going to know it’s
life they were just going to know it’s
life they were just going to know it’s not going to work like that it’s just
not going to work like that it’s just
not going to work like that it’s just not going to work like that what would
not going to work like that what would
not going to work like that what would you tell four guys in a garage that had
you tell four guys in a garage that had
you tell four guys in a garage that had a good batch of songs what would you
a good batch of songs what would you
a good batch of songs what would you tell them to do to debt you’ll play live
tell them to do to debt you’ll play live
tell them to do to debt you’ll play live just play live honestly if you’re good
just play live honestly if you’re good
just play live honestly if you’re good at what you do people will recognize
at what you do people will recognize
at what you do people will recognize that I really believe it
that I really believe it
that I really believe it I really believe that going out and
I really believe that going out and
I really believe that going out and playing good songs live as a great live
playing good songs live as a great live
playing good songs live as a great live band will make you successful I’d really
band will make you successful I’d really
band will make you successful I’d really think it will and it doesn’t matter if
think it will and it doesn’t matter if
think it will and it doesn’t matter if you’re at the hold down the street or
you’re at the hold down the street or
you’re at the hold down the street or you’re on the side stage at Bonnaroo or
you’re on the side stage at Bonnaroo or
you’re on the side stage at Bonnaroo or you’re headlining wella Palooza if
you’re headlining wella Palooza if
you’re headlining wella Palooza if you’re a great band with great songs
you’re a great band with great songs
you’re a great band with great songs people will notice it that’s it that’s
people will notice it that’s it that’s
people will notice it that’s it that’s all it is it’s that simple
all it is it’s that simple
all it is it’s that simple product placement and labels and ANR
product placement and labels and ANR
product placement and labels and ANR people and all apples it doesn’t matter
people and all apples it doesn’t matter
people and all apples it doesn’t matter I swear to god it doesn’t matter and if
I swear to god it doesn’t matter and if
I swear to god it doesn’t matter and if you back that up with the idea that just
you back that up with the idea that just
you back that up with the idea that just playing those great songs in your great
playing those great songs in your great
playing those great songs in your great live band is enough reward for you then
live band is enough reward for you then
live band is enough reward for you then you’re set but you’ve got to be badass
you’re set but you’ve got to be badass
you’re set but you’ve got to be badass you just have to be really good it’s the
you just have to be really good it’s the
you just have to be really good it’s the other things that make up for your
other things that make up for your
other things that make up for your musical inability you know I mean as as
musical inability you know I mean as as
musical inability you know I mean as as a drummer I never felt like I’m gonna be
a drummer I never felt like I’m gonna be
a drummer I never felt like I’m gonna be on the cover of Modern Drummer magazine
on the cover of Modern Drummer magazine
on the cover of Modern Drummer magazine because I’m the best drummer in the
because I’m the best drummer in the
because I’m the best drummer in the world I just do that if you put me on
world I just do that if you put me on
world I just do that if you put me on stage without a PA or floor monitors in
stage without a PA or floor monitors in
stage without a PA or floor monitors in a small club that I would beat the
a small club that I would beat the
a small club that I would beat the out of my drums so much that people go
out of my drums so much that people go
out of my drums so much that people go goddamn did you see that drummer right
goddamn did you see that drummer right
goddamn did you see that drummer right whoa and I’d walk away from every show
whoa and I’d walk away from every show
whoa and I’d walk away from every show like there you go I just beat the piss
like there you go I just beat the piss
like there you go I just beat the piss out of those things and people saw it
out of those things and people saw it
out of those things and people saw it people took notice for sure
people took notice for sure
people took notice for sure and that was great so at the end of the
and that was great so at the end of the
and that was great so at the end of the show I was a successful musician because
show I was a successful musician because
show I was a successful musician because I had
I had
I had what I wanted to achieve so I honestly
what I wanted to achieve so I honestly
what I wanted to achieve so I honestly believe I mean I know lots of musicians
believe I mean I know lots of musicians
believe I mean I know lots of musicians that went down to South by Southwest and
that went down to South by Southwest and
that went down to South by Southwest and said well it’s easy for you to say Mike
said well it’s easy for you to say Mike
said well it’s easy for you to say Mike man I was in the same position you are
man I was in the same position you are
man I was in the same position you are in 24 years ago that was it I worked in
in 24 years ago that was it I worked in
in 24 years ago that was it I worked in a Furniture Warehouse and I wanted
a Furniture Warehouse and I wanted
a Furniture Warehouse and I wanted people to like my music so I played out
people to like my music so I played out
people to like my music so I played out as much as I could you know and if you
as much as I could you know and if you
as much as I could you know and if you really honestly I’d like I said if
really honestly I’d like I said if
really honestly I’d like I said if you’re passionate and driven and focused
you’re passionate and driven and focused
you’re passionate and driven and focused in what you do if you’re really good at
in what you do if you’re really good at
in what you do if you’re really good at it people will take notice that’s
it people will take notice that’s
it people will take notice that’s basically it I mean I don’t understand
basically it I mean I don’t understand
basically it I mean I don’t understand the industry I don’t understand I don’t
the industry I don’t understand I don’t
the industry I don’t understand I don’t understand where music is headed I don’t
understand where music is headed I don’t
understand where music is headed I don’t really understand technology I just know
really understand technology I just know
really understand technology I just know that when you walk into a club and you
that when you walk into a club and you
that when you walk into a club and you see a band that blows you away you are
see a band that blows you away you are
see a band that blows you away you are going to follow that band you’re going
going to follow that band you’re going
going to follow that band you’re going to either buy their CD or you’re going
to either buy their CD or you’re going
to either buy their CD or you’re going to find them online or you’re going to
to find them online or you’re going to
to find them online or you’re going to see them the next time they come to play
see them the next time they come to play
see them the next time they come to play and it takes that’s what it takes
and it takes that’s what it takes
and it takes that’s what it takes you don’t have to stand in line at the
you don’t have to stand in line at the
you don’t have to stand in line at the song contest on TV to become a popular
song contest on TV to become a popular
song contest on TV to become a popular musician you know to stand in front of
musician you know to stand in front of
musician you know to stand in front of some judge that doesn’t even play an
some judge that doesn’t even play an
some judge that doesn’t even play an instrument on their own goddamn records
instrument on their own goddamn records
instrument on their own goddamn records tell you know you’re not going to know
tell you know you’re not going to know
tell you know you’re not going to know right that you know go blow people away
right that you know go blow people away
right that you know go blow people away in front in their face and so it’s kind
in front in their face and so it’s kind
in front in their face and so it’s kind of you know it’s it’s I honestly believe
of you know it’s it’s I honestly believe
of you know it’s it’s I honestly believe it’s that simple what I’ve learned about
it’s that simple what I’ve learned about
it’s that simple what I’ve learned about music today is um no one has to buy your
music today is um no one has to buy your
music today is um no one has to buy your record anymore like no one has to
record anymore like no one has to
record anymore like no one has to usually they buy you a record of you’re
usually they buy you a record of you’re
usually they buy you a record of you’re a likeable person
a likeable person
a likeable person Adele’s incredibly likable Taylor’s
Adele’s incredibly likable Taylor’s
Adele’s incredibly likable Taylor’s incredibly likable Bruno Mars isn’t
incredibly likable Bruno Mars isn’t
incredibly likable Bruno Mars isn’t going with like a Sam Smith’s like what
going with like a Sam Smith’s like what
going with like a Sam Smith’s like what I’d like to think I was likeable like
I’d like to think I was likeable like
I’d like to think I was likeable like you have to be a likeable person who so
you have to be a likeable person who so
you have to be a likeable person who so people is you just know yeah and but but
people is you just know yeah and but but
people is you just know yeah and but but for people to be likeable person’s you
for people to be likeable person’s you
for people to be likeable person’s you have to get to know them and on Twitter
have to get to know them and on Twitter
have to get to know them and on Twitter it’s very much instant thoughts and
it’s very much instant thoughts and
it’s very much instant thoughts and snapchats very much interesting thoughts
snapchats very much interesting thoughts
snapchats very much interesting thoughts Facebook’s instant instant instant and
Facebook’s instant instant instant and
Facebook’s instant instant instant and it’s all like your personality coming
it’s all like your personality coming
it’s all like your personality coming out through through something and I need
out through through something and I need
out through through something and I need find kids instead of being like oh well
find kids instead of being like oh well
find kids instead of being like oh well I’m going to illegally download the
I’m going to illegally download the
I’m going to illegally download the album because I want to hear it they’ll
album because I want to hear it they’ll
album because I want to hear it they’ll be like oh but I think they’re a nice
be like oh but I think they’re a nice
be like oh but I think they’re a nice person I’m going to support that and
person I’m going to support that and
person I’m going to support that and then and then look go and buy the album
then and then look go and buy the album
then and then look go and buy the album and I
and I
and I think that’s a really important thing
think that’s a really important thing
think that’s a really important thing nowadays um I’ve never been disproven
nowadays um I’ve never been disproven
nowadays um I’ve never been disproven because anyone that comes across as it
because anyone that comes across as it
because anyone that comes across as it does not sell that many records you
does not sell that many records you
does not sell that many records you think somehow that aspect of your
think somehow that aspect of your
think somehow that aspect of your personality will will come out and turn
personality will will come out and turn
personality will will come out and turn off people I honestly do honestly I
off people I honestly do honestly I
off people I honestly do honestly I think you know it’s it’s it’s a lot
think you know it’s it’s it’s a lot
think you know it’s it’s it’s a lot different than back in the day if I was
different than back in the day if I was
different than back in the day if I was a successful musician in the 70s and
a successful musician in the 70s and
a successful musician in the 70s and there was a newspaper article about me
there was a newspaper article about me
there was a newspaper article about me it could be true it could not be true
it could be true it could not be true
it could be true it could not be true like if there’s there’s TMZ footage now
like if there’s there’s TMZ footage now
like if there’s there’s TMZ footage now online on YouTube and you watch it like
online on YouTube and you watch it like
online on YouTube and you watch it like it’s there it’s it definitely happened
it’s there it’s it definitely happened
it’s there it’s it definitely happened so like it’s um yeah I think it’s I
so like it’s um yeah I think it’s I
so like it’s um yeah I think it’s I think it’s very important to be a good
think it’s very important to be a good
think it’s very important to be a good person nowadays in music and I found
person nowadays in music and I found
person nowadays in music and I found that everyone at a certain level they’re
that everyone at a certain level they’re
that everyone at a certain level they’re all nice everyone’s nice and everyone
all nice everyone’s nice and everyone
all nice everyone’s nice and everyone who’s mid-tier who’s very um what was
who’s mid-tier who’s very um what was
who’s mid-tier who’s very um what was the word very self-conscious about about
the word very self-conscious about about
the word very self-conscious about about themselves and that’s how they’re the
themselves and that’s how they’re the
themselves and that’s how they’re the ones who get a bit nasty I just think
ones who get a bit nasty I just think
ones who get a bit nasty I just think that people it’s it’s pointless for
that people it’s it’s pointless for
that people it’s it’s pointless for people to get into a creative arena and
people to get into a creative arena and
people to get into a creative arena and say I want to be the best I mean you
say I want to be the best I mean you
say I want to be the best I mean you know there are everyone has what they
know there are everyone has what they
know there are everyone has what they have they’d say what they say and you
have they’d say what they say and you
have they’d say what they say and you could never compare you know Picasso
could never compare you know Picasso
could never compare you know Picasso with Lachey I mean you have to everybody
with Lachey I mean you have to everybody
with Lachey I mean you have to everybody has something different to say um and
it’s silly to get in there and say my
it’s silly to get in there and say my brushstroke is better than another
brushstroke is better than another
brushstroke is better than another person’s you know it’s better to say am
person’s you know it’s better to say am
person’s you know it’s better to say am i being true to myself and is this what
i being true to myself and is this what
i being true to myself and is this what I want to say and have I expressed
I want to say and have I expressed
I want to say and have I expressed myself you know the way I want to
myself you know the way I want to
myself you know the way I want to express myself no I mean that’s what
express myself no I mean that’s what
express myself no I mean that’s what it’s all about I think like this the
it’s all about I think like this the
it’s all about I think like this the management or Newport Club wouldn’t want
management or Newport Club wouldn’t want
management or Newport Club wouldn’t want me if they couldn’t have people that
me if they couldn’t have people that
me if they couldn’t have people that wanted to see me so I try my best to let
wanted to see me so I try my best to let
wanted to see me so I try my best to let the audience know that I preach they
the audience know that I preach they
the audience know that I preach they appreciate them and their appearance
appreciate them and their appearance
appreciate them and their appearance here with me or their support if you
here with me or their support if you
here with me or their support if you will by and letting them know that I
will by and letting them know that I
will by and letting them know that I love them too I’ve been around some
love them too I’ve been around some
love them too I’ve been around some artists been around some places even
artists been around some places even
artists been around some places even once the audience I never forget once I
once the audience I never forget once I
once the audience I never forget once I was in Chicago I won’t mention the club
was in Chicago I won’t mention the club
was in Chicago I won’t mention the club I was in Chicago
I was in Chicago
I was in Chicago the management had been advertising to
the management had been advertising to
the management had been advertising to get people to come get people to come so
get people to come get people to come so
get people to come get people to come so people with their so when the show was
people with their so when the show was
people with their so when the show was over some guy got up said well you don’t
over some guy got up said well you don’t
over some guy got up said well you don’t have to go home but you got to live here
have to go home but you got to live here
have to go home but you got to live here that made me angry I got very angry very
that made me angry I got very angry very
that made me angry I got very angry very angry I said that he could say you know
angry I said that he could say you know
angry I said that he could say you know folks we got to close you know that old
folks we got to close you know that old
folks we got to close you know that old stuff about you don’t have to go home
stuff about you don’t have to go home
stuff about you don’t have to go home but you got to leave here he didn’t say
but you got to leave here he didn’t say
but you got to leave here he didn’t say that when you’re trying to get him to
that when you’re trying to get him to
that when you’re trying to get him to come in so I wasn’t happy about that at
come in so I wasn’t happy about that at
come in so I wasn’t happy about that at all so you don’t get that here sure
all so you don’t get that here sure
all so you don’t get that here sure there are curfews in some places
there are curfews in some places
there are curfews in some places someplace you have to close at a
someplace you have to close at a
someplace you have to close at a particular time the audience understands
particular time the audience understands
particular time the audience understands that so if you tell them you’re going to
that so if you tell them you’re going to
that so if you tell them you’re going to have a few that may grumble but the
have a few that may grumble but the
have a few that may grumble but the majority of the people are right with
majority of the people are right with
majority of the people are right with you in this sensible they know that if
you in this sensible they know that if
you in this sensible they know that if you don’t close down maybe lose your
you don’t close down maybe lose your
you don’t close down maybe lose your license um so if you say folks sorry the
license um so if you say folks sorry the
license um so if you say folks sorry the time is now we have to cut it off it’s a
time is now we have to cut it off it’s a
time is now we have to cut it off it’s a curfew time and most of the majority of
curfew time and most of the majority of
curfew time and most of the majority of the people will walk out they will go
the people will walk out they will go
the people will walk out they will go I’m competitive
I’m competitive
I’m competitive really with myself right honestly like
really with myself right honestly like
really with myself right honestly like every time I start an album I go and
every time I start an album I go and
every time I start an album I go and watch all of my performances and I try
watch all of my performances and I try
watch all of my performances and I try to figure out okay what is it that I
to figure out okay what is it that I
to figure out okay what is it that I could have done better or what worked
could have done better or what worked
could have done better or what worked and really my references I go back to
and really my references I go back to
and really my references I go back to myself
myself
myself and try to better myself so I’m really
and try to better myself so I’m really
and try to better myself so I’m really tough on me more so than than anyone
tough on me more so than than anyone
tough on me more so than than anyone else I’m not a competitive person that
else I’m not a competitive person that
else I’m not a competitive person that walks in thinking about other people and
walks in thinking about other people and
walks in thinking about other people and how I can compete with them more
how I can compete with them more
how I can compete with them more especially not my husband how do I write
especially not my husband how do I write
especially not my husband how do I write a song well you don’t have said any and
a song well you don’t have said any and
a song well you don’t have said any and all right what would happen if I sat
all right what would happen if I sat
all right what would happen if I sat here and played some chords whatever and
here and played some chords whatever and
here and played some chords whatever and say I’m going to write the best song
say I’m going to write the best song
say I’m going to write the best song ever written nothing happens something
ever written nothing happens something
ever written nothing happens something in the heavens has to say look this is
in the heavens has to say look this is
in the heavens has to say look this is the time that this is going to be laid
the time that this is going to be laid
the time that this is going to be laid on you and this is what I want you to
on you and this is what I want you to
on you and this is what I want you to have it now I remember when I when I
have it now I remember when I when I
have it now I remember when I when I wrote Billie Jean I was writing in my
wrote Billie Jean I was writing in my
wrote Billie Jean I was writing in my car down Ventura Boulevard all I said to
car down Ventura Boulevard all I said to
car down Ventura Boulevard all I said to myself beforehand I want to write a song
myself beforehand I want to write a song
myself beforehand I want to write a song with a great bass hook you know
with a great bass hook you know
with a great bass hook you know and and I just let it go really and in
and and I just let it go really and in
and and I just let it go really and in several days later you know I’m do do do
several days later you know I’m do do do
several days later you know I’m do do do you know what hmm
so did okay you you were singing the
so did okay you you were singing the baseline sing that again and then what
baseline sing that again and then what
baseline sing that again and then what happened how did you get the other
happened how did you get the other
happened how did you get the other instrumentation and the composition how
instrumentation and the composition how
instrumentation and the composition how did it work it see the thing is in
did it work it see the thing is in
did it work it see the thing is in artists seem to get in the way of the
artists seem to get in the way of the
artists seem to get in the way of the music get out of the way of the music
music get out of the way of the music
music get out of the way of the music you know don’t write the music let the
you know don’t write the music let the
you know don’t write the music let the music write itself I try to stay pretty
music write itself I try to stay pretty
music write itself I try to stay pretty open to inspiration every single day all
open to inspiration every single day all
open to inspiration every single day all day and if I come up with if I come up
day and if I come up with if I come up
day and if I come up with if I come up with some line that I feel that I feel
with some line that I feel that I feel
with some line that I feel that I feel like sounds like it should be a
like sounds like it should be a
like sounds like it should be a highlighted line or it sounds like it’s
highlighted line or it sounds like it’s
highlighted line or it sounds like it’s an interesting observation I’ll write it
an interesting observation I’ll write it
an interesting observation I’ll write it down in this this kind of note pad that
down in this this kind of note pad that
down in this this kind of note pad that I have in my phone and when it comes
I have in my phone and when it comes
I have in my phone and when it comes time to finish a song I’ll just go
time to finish a song I’ll just go
time to finish a song I’ll just go through all the lines and look at them
through all the lines and look at them
through all the lines and look at them and go okay this works for this this
and go okay this works for this this
and go okay this works for this this works for that mmm it’s really fun it’s
works for that mmm it’s really fun it’s
works for that mmm it’s really fun it’s it’s it’s fun to continue to stay open
it’s it’s fun to continue to stay open
it’s it’s fun to continue to stay open to inspiration all the time and always
to inspiration all the time and always
to inspiration all the time and always be looking you have bad days and you
be looking you have bad days and you
be looking you have bad days and you know from the outside people may look at
know from the outside people may look at
know from the outside people may look at my life and think that everybody’s
my life and think that everybody’s
my life and think that everybody’s everything’s good all the time and it’s
everything’s good all the time and it’s
everything’s good all the time and it’s really just not the case you can have
really just not the case you can have
really just not the case you can have dark days it doesn’t matter how well
dark days it doesn’t matter how well
dark days it doesn’t matter how well your career is doing you know there’s
your career is doing you know there’s
your career is doing you know there’s all kinds of things happen in life but
all kinds of things happen in life but
all kinds of things happen in life but as far as creative dreams go you know I
as far as creative dreams go you know I
as far as creative dreams go you know I remember we had released the first song
remember we had released the first song
remember we had released the first song off our second album and it bombed it
off our second album and it bombed it
off our second album and it bombed it did terribly was called attack and yeah
did terribly was called attack and yeah
did terribly was called attack and yeah well you should have requested it on the
well you should have requested it on the
well you should have requested it on the radio more buddy because nobody else
radio more buddy because nobody else
radio more buddy because nobody else thought so and you know maybe there were
thought so and you know maybe there were
thought so and you know maybe there were other forces working at that time
other forces working at that time
other forces working at that time against us but I thought it was a decent
against us but I thought it was a decent
against us but I thought it was a decent song as well for the time but it bombed
song as well for the time but it bombed
song as well for the time but it bombed the record company wanted to drop us
the record company wanted to drop us
the record company wanted to drop us they actually did they called our
they actually did they called our
they actually did they called our management’s that we’re dropping the
management’s that we’re dropping the
management’s that we’re dropping the band and somehow you know they convinced
band and somehow you know they convinced
band and somehow you know they convinced the the head
the the head
the the head the record of Menem Jason Flom the guy
the record of Menem Jason Flom the guy
the record of Menem Jason Flom the guy was in there to come to see us one more
was in there to come to see us one more
was in there to come to see us one more time at Madison Square Garden we’re
time at Madison Square Garden we’re
time at Madison Square Garden we’re opening for Audioslave and the crowd
opening for Audioslave and the crowd
opening for Audioslave and the crowd hated us right they hated us it was just
hated us right they hated us it was just
hated us right they hated us it was just about it was a beloved crowd was largely
about it was a beloved crowd was largely
about it was a beloved crowd was largely there is made up of Soundgarden and Rage
there is made up of Soundgarden and Rage
there is made up of Soundgarden and Rage fans a lot of older people and they just
fans a lot of older people and they just
fans a lot of older people and they just were like who are these weirdos on stage
were like who are these weirdos on stage
were like who are these weirdos on stage will they get out of here but anyway we
will they get out of here but anyway we
will they get out of here but anyway we played that show and the president of
played that show and the president of
played that show and the president of the record company who had wanted to
the record company who had wanted to
the record company who had wanted to drop us he decided to give us one more
drop us he decided to give us one more
drop us he decided to give us one more shot
shot
shot but that time was really brutal you know
but that time was really brutal you know
but that time was really brutal you know it’s our second album we knew if we got
it’s our second album we knew if we got
it’s our second album we knew if we got dropped it would be very difficult to
dropped it would be very difficult to
dropped it would be very difficult to ever find a way to make music and share
ever find a way to make music and share
ever find a way to make music and share it again this was way before uh you know
it again this was way before uh you know
it again this was way before uh you know iTunes it was way before Facebook and it
iTunes it was way before Facebook and it
iTunes it was way before Facebook and it was way before YouTube is a way before
was way before YouTube is a way before
was way before YouTube is a way before it was so easy to make and distribute
it was so easy to make and distribute
it was so easy to make and distribute music and share your work online you
music and share your work online you
music and share your work online you know so it was a challenging time and
know so it was a challenging time and
know so it was a challenging time and really dark but I decided to direct the
really dark but I decided to direct the
really dark but I decided to direct the video myself it was for a song called
video myself it was for a song called
video myself it was for a song called the kill they released it and it changed
the kill they released it and it changed
the kill they released it and it changed our lives so you know and that’s that
our lives so you know and that’s that
our lives so you know and that’s that story has kind of happened more than a
story has kind of happened more than a
story has kind of happened more than a few times in our careers you know and
few times in our careers you know and
few times in our careers you know and it’s happened to me as an actor it’s
it’s happened to me as an actor it’s
it’s happened to me as an actor it’s happened to me as a director I’ve looked
happened to me as a director I’ve looked
happened to me as a director I’ve looked at things so many times videos that you
at things so many times videos that you
at things so many times videos that you guys see now and think oh that’s pretty
guys see now and think oh that’s pretty
guys see now and think oh that’s pretty good and just wanted to like rip my
good and just wanted to like rip my
good and just wanted to like rip my eyeballs out it was so bad so I think
eyeballs out it was so bad so I think
eyeballs out it was so bad so I think the thing that we don’t teach each other
the thing that we don’t teach each other
the thing that we don’t teach each other and remind each other enough of is that
and remind each other enough of is that
and remind each other enough of is that failure is often times more important
failure is often times more important
failure is often times more important than success and success is the thing
than success and success is the thing
than success and success is the thing that can actually make us fail it’s
that can actually make us fail it’s
that can actually make us fail it’s really important to note what the
really important to note what the
really important to note what the lessons are to learn in failure and it
lessons are to learn in failure and it
lessons are to learn in failure and it happens a lot it doesn’t feel good but
happens a lot it doesn’t feel good but
happens a lot it doesn’t feel good but it’s a necessity how many times have you
it’s a necessity how many times have you
it’s a necessity how many times have you guys you know NSU in a situation of need
guys you know NSU in a situation of need
guys you know NSU in a situation of need a moment of need you know you know what
a moment of need you know you know what
a moment of need you know you know what I need I need
I need I need
I need I need right and you blow it off and in three
right and you blow it off and in three
right and you blow it off and in three years later there’s a guy you know on an
years later there’s a guy you know on an
years later there’s a guy you know on an infomercial describing exactly your idea
infomercial describing exactly your idea
infomercial describing exactly your idea and he’s showing you how great your
and he’s showing you how great your
and he’s showing you how great your product works you have to be unafraid to
product works you have to be unafraid to
product works you have to be unafraid to listen and unafraid to think that’s
listen and unafraid to think that’s
listen and unafraid to think that’s something that you have is a good idea
something that you have is a good idea
something that you have is a good idea now you also can’t believe in it so much
now you also can’t believe in it so much
now you also can’t believe in it so much that you that you have deaf ears toward
that you that you have deaf ears toward
that you that you have deaf ears toward like reason and reality because you can
like reason and reality because you can
like reason and reality because you can have the most brilliant idea in the
have the most brilliant idea in the
have the most brilliant idea in the world but you gotta bet on yourself you
world but you gotta bet on yourself you
world but you gotta bet on yourself you can’t think that like that one idea and
can’t think that like that one idea and
can’t think that like that one idea and the way that you think is supposed to
the way that you think is supposed to
the way that you think is supposed to happen is the only way that it can
happen is the only way that it can
happen is the only way that it can happen you know don’t wait for the stars
happen you know don’t wait for the stars
happen you know don’t wait for the stars to when I reach up and rearrange them
to when I reach up and rearrange them
to when I reach up and rearrange them the way you want create your own
the way you want create your own
the way you want create your own constellation I say that all the time
you just have to be smart enough to know
you just have to be smart enough to know that like you know there’s so many ways
that like you know there’s so many ways
that like you know there’s so many ways that like things can turn out you know
that like things can turn out you know
that like things can turn out you know and there’s so many people in their
and there’s so many people in their
and there’s so many people in their lives that man if I would have just made
lives that man if I would have just made
lives that man if I would have just made that left turn if I would have just
that left turn if I would have just
that left turn if I would have just stayed in the house five more minutes or
stayed in the house five more minutes or
stayed in the house five more minutes or whatever like what I could have shoulda
whatever like what I could have shoulda
whatever like what I could have shoulda if we would bet on ourselves but at the
if we would bet on ourselves but at the
if we would bet on ourselves but at the same time taking consideration what this
same time taking consideration what this
same time taking consideration what this moment will mean to us ten years from
moment will mean to us ten years from
moment will mean to us ten years from now it could be different but listen I
now it could be different but listen I
now it could be different but listen I haven’t made all the best decisions in
haven’t made all the best decisions in
haven’t made all the best decisions in the world either I definitely fell on my
the world either I definitely fell on my
the world either I definitely fell on my ass a million times but I learned on my
ass a million times but I learned on my
ass a million times but I learned on my way down and I definitely take it in
way down and I definitely take it in
way down and I definitely take it in stride getting back up thank you guys so
stride getting back up thank you guys so
stride getting back up thank you guys so much for watching I hope you enjoyed I’d
much for watching I hope you enjoyed I’d
much for watching I hope you enjoyed I’d love to know what you think of this new
love to know what you think of this new
love to know what you think of this new series did you like it she would
series did you like it she would
series did you like it she would continue it is there another group that
continue it is there another group that
continue it is there another group that you want us to profile set of musicians
you want us to profile set of musicians
you want us to profile set of musicians let me know should we kill the series
let me know should we kill the series
let me know should we kill the series was it not valuable to you let me know
was it not valuable to you let me know
was it not valuable to you let me know leaving the comments put your thoughts
leaving the comments put your thoughts
leaving the comments put your thoughts down there I’m going to join in the
down there I’m going to join in the
down there I’m going to join in the discussion I also want to give a quick
discussion I also want to give a quick
discussion I also want to give a quick shout out to Danielle Valenzuela from
shout out to Danielle Valenzuela from
shout out to Danielle Valenzuela from Dee Valenzuela comm Daniel thank you so
Dee Valenzuela comm Daniel thank you so
Dee Valenzuela comm Daniel thank you so much for buying my book it really means
much for buying my book it really means
much for buying my book it really means a lot to me those you’re watching if you
a lot to me those you’re watching if you
a lot to me those you’re watching if you want to change that a shadow in the
want to change that a shadow in the
want to change that a shadow in the future video make sure to pick up a copy
future video make sure to pick up a copy
future video make sure to pick up a copy of the book it’s really good I promise
of the book it’s really good I promise
of the book it’s really good I promise and also emailing the receipt so that we
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watching have an amazing day continue to
watching have an amazing day continue to believe or whatever your one word is and
believe or whatever your one word is and
believe or whatever your one word is and I’ll see you soon
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