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Creating a Feeling | Matthew Luhn | TEDxUCSB


for the last 20 years my job has been to

for the last 20 years my job has been to make people cry that’s that’s what I do

make people cry that’s that’s what I do

make people cry that’s that’s what I do for a career I I make grown adults and

for a career I I make grown adults and

for a career I I make grown adults and children cry I’m sorry I apologize now

children cry I’m sorry I apologize now

children cry I’m sorry I apologize now because I’ve been working at Pixar for

because I’ve been working at Pixar for

because I’ve been working at Pixar for over 20 years helping create those

over 20 years helping create those

over 20 years helping create those stories and characters that yes make

stories and characters that yes make

stories and characters that yes make people cry and also make people laugh as

people cry and also make people laugh as

people cry and also make people laugh as well right that’s what I’ve been doing I

well right that’s what I’ve been doing I

well right that’s what I’ve been doing I love I love doing this I love that

love I love doing this I love that

love I love doing this I love that creating this experience for people but

creating this experience for people but

creating this experience for people but let me just back up for a second and let

let me just back up for a second and let

let me just back up for a second and let me go back to where my story really

me go back to where my story really

me go back to where my story really begins which is in a toy store because

begins which is in a toy store because

begins which is in a toy store because my mom and dad when I was born they

my mom and dad when I was born they

my mom and dad when I was born they owned the largest chain of toy stores in

owned the largest chain of toy stores in

owned the largest chain of toy stores in the San Francisco Bay Area it’s not a

the San Francisco Bay Area it’s not a

the San Francisco Bay Area it’s not a bad way to grow up right it’s your

bad way to grow up right it’s your

bad way to grow up right it’s your birthday mom and dad say go to the store

birthday mom and dad say go to the store

birthday mom and dad say go to the store pick yourself something up right

pick yourself something up right

pick yourself something up right probably the only bad thing is you don’t

probably the only bad thing is you don’t

probably the only bad thing is you don’t really know who your true friends are or

really know who your true friends are or

really know who your true friends are or who just wants to play with your

who just wants to play with your

who just wants to play with your complete collection of Star Wars toys

complete collection of Star Wars toys

complete collection of Star Wars toys but my mom and dad actually didn’t start

but my mom and dad actually didn’t start

but my mom and dad actually didn’t start the toy stores though my grandfather and

the toy stores though my grandfather and

the toy stores though my grandfather and grandmother owned and ran our family toy

grandmother owned and ran our family toy

grandmother owned and ran our family toy stores before my parents and it doesn’t

stores before my parents and it doesn’t

stores before my parents and it doesn’t stop there my great grandparents owned

stop there my great grandparents owned

stop there my great grandparents owned and ran the toy stores before my parents

and ran the toy stores before my parents

and ran the toy stores before my parents before my grandparents and then my

before my grandparents and then my

before my grandparents and then my great-great-great grandfather Charlie

great-great-great grandfather Charlie

great-great-great grandfather Charlie that guy with a cigar in his mouth he

that guy with a cigar in his mouth he

that guy with a cigar in his mouth he actually hated kids and he hated toys he

actually hated kids and he hated toys he

actually hated kids and he hated toys he owned a cigar shop in San Francisco but

owned a cigar shop in San Francisco but

owned a cigar shop in San Francisco but everybody else in my family it’s always

everybody else in my family it’s always

everybody else in my family it’s always been about toys about creating an

been about toys about creating an

been about toys about creating an experience for people when they would

experience for people when they would

experience for people when they would come into the stores to feel

come into the stores to feel

come into the stores to feel entertaining entertained to feel

entertaining entertained to feel

entertaining entertained to feel delighted to feel like they’re a kid my

delighted to feel like they’re a kid my

delighted to feel like they’re a kid my grandfather up there he’s 91 years old

grandfather up there he’s 91 years old

grandfather up there he’s 91 years old Marine World War two he could still beat

Marine World War two he could still beat

Marine World War two he could still beat me up with one arm if you chose to and

me up with one arm if you chose to and

me up with one arm if you chose to and then that’s my dad with a slinky and he

then that’s my dad with a slinky and he

then that’s my dad with a slinky and he um he he actually he never wanted to get

um he he actually he never wanted to get

um he he actually he never wanted to get into the business he’s not the Smurf up

into the business he’s not the Smurf up

into the business he’s not the Smurf up there it’s the other guy my dad actually

there it’s the other guy my dad actually

there it’s the other guy my dad actually when he came back from Vietnam he went

when he came back from Vietnam he went

when he came back from Vietnam he went to his dad the marine its a dad I really

to his dad the marine its a dad I really

to his dad the marine its a dad I really really want to be a Disney animator yeah

really want to be a Disney animator yeah

really want to be a Disney animator yeah a Disney animator and my grandfather the

a Disney animator and my grandfather the

a Disney animator and my grandfather the marine said are you kidding me

marine said are you kidding me

marine said are you kidding me you can’t make a living as an artist

you can’t make a living as an artist

you can’t make a living as an artist plus you need to continue running the

plus you need to continue running the

plus you need to continue running the toy stores so my dad reluctantly decided

toy stores so my dad reluctantly decided

toy stores so my dad reluctantly decided I’m gonna let my dream pass I’m not

I’m gonna let my dream pass I’m not

I’m gonna let my dream pass I’m not gonna pursue it until I was about three

gonna pursue it until I was about three

gonna pursue it until I was about three years old this is a photo of my my dad

years old this is a photo of my my dad

years old this is a photo of my my dad me my grandmother my dad was very much

me my grandmother my dad was very much

me my grandmother my dad was very much into hair obviously and but when I was

into hair obviously and but when I was

into hair obviously and but when I was about three years old my dad was home

about three years old my dad was home

about three years old my dad was home with a stomachache and to be able to

with a stomachache and to be able to

with a stomachache and to be able to cheer him up I did the only thing I

cheer him up I did the only thing I

cheer him up I did the only thing I could do which was I drew a picture for

could do which was I drew a picture for

could do which was I drew a picture for him and of him with a stomachache you

him and of him with a stomachache you

him and of him with a stomachache you can see the swirls in his his square

can see the swirls in his his square

can see the swirls in his his square body and when my dad saw this drawing he

body and when my dad saw this drawing he

body and when my dad saw this drawing he made a decision for me for the rest of

made a decision for me for the rest of

made a decision for me for the rest of my life which was going to be you will

my life which was going to be you will

my life which was going to be you will live my dreams you are going to be that

live my dreams you are going to be that

live my dreams you are going to be that Disney animator so at 3 years old my dad

Disney animator so at 3 years old my dad

Disney animator so at 3 years old my dad he already started my my training to do

he already started my my training to do

he already started my my training to do this one day there was the normal things

this one day there was the normal things

this one day there was the normal things like take me to see you know animated

like take me to see you know animated

like take me to see you know animated Disney movies take me to the museum give

Disney movies take me to the museum give

Disney movies take me to the museum give me art products to draw with but he

me art products to draw with but he

me art products to draw with but he pushed it farther

pushed it farther

pushed it farther my mom would drop me off at school you

my mom would drop me off at school you

my mom would drop me off at school you know at 11 a.m. in the morning and then

know at 11 a.m. in the morning and then

know at 11 a.m. in the morning and then my dad would pick me up at 11 a.m.

my dad would pick me up at 11 a.m.

my dad would pick me up at 11 a.m. because there was the movie we needed to

because there was the movie we needed to

because there was the movie we needed to see that day that was very important for

see that day that was very important for

see that day that was very important for my education now his favorite movies

my education now his favorite movies

my education now his favorite movies though were science fiction and horror

though were science fiction and horror

though were science fiction and horror so you know taking your kid to see

so you know taking your kid to see

so you know taking your kid to see poltergeist when they’re five is a

poltergeist when they’re five is a

poltergeist when they’re five is a really bad idea

really bad idea

really bad idea but all of this love that he had for

but all of this love that he had for

but all of this love that he had for animation and art and film it rubbed off

animation and art and film it rubbed off

animation and art and film it rubbed off on me by the time I was in high school I

on me by the time I was in high school I

on me by the time I was in high school I knew I want to be a Disney animator this

knew I want to be a Disney animator this

knew I want to be a Disney animator this is what I want to do and I had heard of

is what I want to do and I had heard of

is what I want to do and I had heard of a school that was about seven hours away

a school that was about seven hours away

a school that was about seven hours away from San Francisco it was in Los Angeles

from San Francisco it was in Los Angeles

from San Francisco it was in Los Angeles and it was called Cal arts now this

and it was called Cal arts now this

and it was called Cal arts now this school was the one that Walt Disney

school was the one that Walt Disney

school was the one that Walt Disney started before he passed away it’s the

started before he passed away it’s the

started before he passed away it’s the school where if you want to do anything

school where if you want to do anything

school where if you want to do anything in animation this is the school you go

in animation this is the school you go

in animation this is the school you go to

to

to now I ended up going to school with a

now I ended up going to school with a

now I ended up going to school with a lot of friends that I later worked with

lot of friends that I later worked with

lot of friends that I later worked with but while I was at the school I made a

but while I was at the school I made a

but while I was at the school I made a student film my first year and I have

student film my first year and I have

student film my first year and I have this kind of you know work ethic problem

this kind of you know work ethic problem

this kind of you know work ethic problem where I I have a strong work ethic and I

where I I have a strong work ethic and I

where I I have a strong work ethic and I made a student film it was an animated

made a student film it was an animated

made a student film it was an animated film and it got seen by a company that

film and it got seen by a company that

film and it got seen by a company that had a TV show that had been on the air

had a TV show that had been on the air

had a TV show that had been on the air for about two years at this point and in

for about two years at this point and in

for about two years at this point and in my first year of college they offered me

my first year of college they offered me

my first year of college they offered me a job to come in to be an animator on

a job to come in to be an animator on

a job to come in to be an animator on The Simpsons

The Simpsons

The Simpsons believe it or not I was only 19 years

believe it or not I was only 19 years

believe it or not I was only 19 years old when this happened pretty crazy so I

old when this happened pretty crazy so I

old when this happened pretty crazy so I did what was the logical thing I left

did what was the logical thing I left

did what was the logical thing I left school and I wouldn’t work for The

school and I wouldn’t work for The

school and I wouldn’t work for The Simpsons and I had accomplished my dad’s

Simpsons and I had accomplished my dad’s

Simpsons and I had accomplished my dad’s dream of being an animator and then one

dream of being an animator and then one

dream of being an animator and then one day I discovered how the stories were

day I discovered how the stories were

day I discovered how the stories were being put together at the Simpsons you

being put together at the Simpsons you

being put together at the Simpsons you can probably recognize back there that

can probably recognize back there that

can probably recognize back there that that’s Conan O’Brien right the team at

that’s Conan O’Brien right the team at

that’s Conan O’Brien right the team at the Simpsons that were writing these

the Simpsons that were writing these

the Simpsons that were writing these stories each episode it was like a

stories each episode it was like a

stories each episode it was like a combination between people that went to

combination between people that went to

combination between people that went to Harvard comic strip artists comedians a

Harvard comic strip artists comedians a

Harvard comic strip artists comedians a whole mixture of storytellers and every

whole mixture of storytellers and every

whole mixture of storytellers and every week they put together an episode and I

week they put together an episode and I

week they put together an episode and I fell in love with this process it made

fell in love with this process it made

fell in love with this process it made me realize that while I love animation

me realize that while I love animation

me realize that while I love animation and I love movies and I love design and

and I love movies and I love design and

and I love movies and I love design and color and music and everything that goes

color and music and everything that goes

color and music and everything that goes into making a movie great

into making a movie great

into making a movie great the part I was really in love with was

the part I was really in love with was

the part I was really in love with was the big picture of the whole thing the

the big picture of the whole thing the

the big picture of the whole thing the story how to make people feel something

story how to make people feel something

story how to make people feel something well this led me to at the time a very

well this led me to at the time a very

well this led me to at the time a very small animation studio only made up of

small animation studio only made up of

small animation studio only made up of about 80 people and I ended up working

about 80 people and I ended up working

about 80 people and I ended up working on the very first CG animated film and

on the very first CG animated film and

on the very first CG animated film and it was during this time that I’m

it was during this time that I’m

it was during this time that I’m animating on Toy Story that I get the

animating on Toy Story that I get the

animating on Toy Story that I get the opportunity to start working on the

opportunity to start working on the

opportunity to start working on the stories that they were making and

stories that they were making and

stories that they were making and through this past process I realized

through this past process I realized

through this past process I realized that while like I said all the aspects

that while like I said all the aspects

that while like I said all the aspects of making a film or a TV show are

of making a film or a TV show are

of making a film or a TV show are important it all hinges upon a great

important it all hinges upon a great

important it all hinges upon a great story a story about a rat that has the

story a story about a rat that has the

story a story about a rat that has the dreams of being a french chef or a film

dreams of being a french chef or a film

dreams of being a french chef or a film that makes you feel that at any point of

that makes you feel that at any point of

that makes you feel that at any point of your life you can have a zest for life

your life you can have a zest for life

your life you can have a zest for life again right all these great stories that

again right all these great stories that

again right all these great stories that we’ve made a Pixar and Simpsons they are

we’ve made a Pixar and Simpsons they are

we’ve made a Pixar and Simpsons they are great stories because they evoke

great stories because they evoke

great stories because they evoke feelings they make us feel something and

feelings they make us feel something and

feelings they make us feel something and I remember when I went to college that

I remember when I went to college that

I remember when I went to college that is what they told me on the first day

is what they told me on the first day

is what they told me on the first day they said no matter what you do whether

they said no matter what you do whether

they said no matter what you do whether you’re gonna be a sculptor an animator a

you’re gonna be a sculptor an animator a

you’re gonna be a sculptor an animator a filmmaker whatever you’re gonna do make

filmmaker whatever you’re gonna do make

filmmaker whatever you’re gonna do make people feel something make them laugh

people feel something make them laugh

people feel something make them laugh make them angry make them scared but

make them angry make them scared but

make them angry make them scared but whatever you do make people feel

whatever you do make people feel

whatever you do make people feel something and I realized how important

something and I realized how important

something and I realized how important that was even for my family in their toy

that was even for my family in their toy

that was even for my family in their toy store that when people came into the toy

store that when people came into the toy

store that when people came into the toy store what my family was always trying

store what my family was always trying

store what my family was always trying to do was make people feel something to

to do was make people feel something to

to do was make people feel something to feel like a kid again and when I think

feel like a kid again and when I think

feel like a kid again and when I think about great companies they do the same

about great companies they do the same

about great companies they do the same thing when you go into Tiffany’s

thing when you go into Tiffany’s

thing when you go into Tiffany’s you have a feeling right it feels unique

you have a feeling right it feels unique

you have a feeling right it feels unique beautiful sophisticated and storytelling

beautiful sophisticated and storytelling

beautiful sophisticated and storytelling goes beyond just the narrative the color

goes beyond just the narrative the color

goes beyond just the narrative the color the typeface of the logo the visuals can

the typeface of the logo the visuals can

the typeface of the logo the visuals can tell a story another company I think of

tell a story another company I think of

tell a story another company I think of that makes me feel something is Tesla

that makes me feel something is Tesla

that makes me feel something is Tesla when I’m in a Tesla

when I’m in a Tesla

when I’m in a Tesla I don’t own a Tesla but I wish I did

I don’t own a Tesla but I wish I did

I don’t own a Tesla but I wish I did but it makes me feel like there’s an

but it makes me feel like there’s an

but it makes me feel like there’s an optimistic future right it leaves me

optimistic future right it leaves me

optimistic future right it leaves me with a feeling that this aesthetically

with a feeling that this aesthetically

with a feeling that this aesthetically pleasing and cool-looking car it gives

pleasing and cool-looking car it gives

pleasing and cool-looking car it gives me hope about the future and I think

me hope about the future and I think

me hope about the future and I think that’s really what we’re all trying to

that’s really what we’re all trying to

that’s really what we’re all trying to go to is make people feel something

go to is make people feel something

go to is make people feel something reach them with a feeling so I’ve been

reach them with a feeling so I’ve been

reach them with a feeling so I’ve been you know so fortunate to work at the

you know so fortunate to work at the

you know so fortunate to work at the Disney Company for over almost half my

Disney Company for over almost half my

Disney Company for over almost half my life it’s a company that I love you know

life it’s a company that I love you know

life it’s a company that I love you know I don’t want to embarrass myself but my

I don’t want to embarrass myself but my

I don’t want to embarrass myself but my wife and I we we actually did take the

wife and I we we actually did take the

wife and I we we actually did take the Disney cruise on our honeymoon so kind

Disney cruise on our honeymoon so kind

Disney cruise on our honeymoon so kind of lets you know how much I like Disney

of lets you know how much I like Disney

of lets you know how much I like Disney and you know why I like that company is

and you know why I like that company is

and you know why I like that company is because every aspect of that company is

because every aspect of that company is

because every aspect of that company is about making people feel delighted and

about making people feel delighted and

about making people feel delighted and entertained it goes beyond a mission

entertained it goes beyond a mission

entertained it goes beyond a mission statement right it goes beyond the plot

statement right it goes beyond the plot

statement right it goes beyond the plot of a movie it all comes down to how do

of a movie it all comes down to how do

of a movie it all comes down to how do you want make people to feel and I’m not

you want make people to feel and I’m not

you want make people to feel and I’m not the only one who loves things that are

the only one who loves things that are

the only one who loves things that are Disney and you know they say that people

Disney and you know they say that people

Disney and you know they say that people who go to a Disney movie or the Disney

who go to a Disney movie or the Disney

who go to a Disney movie or the Disney parks or a Disney Store or buy a Disney

parks or a Disney Store or buy a Disney

parks or a Disney Store or buy a Disney toy 70% of them are gonna come back for

toy 70% of them are gonna come back for

toy 70% of them are gonna come back for more and why it’s because they want to

more and why it’s because they want to

more and why it’s because they want to feel that same initial experience again

feel that same initial experience again

feel that same initial experience again but the problem is that not everybody

but the problem is that not everybody

but the problem is that not everybody does this not everybody thinks about how

does this not everybody thinks about how

does this not everybody thinks about how important is to reach people with a

important is to reach people with a

important is to reach people with a feeling one feeling and our world in

feeling one feeling and our world in

feeling one feeling and our world in looking like this mixed messages people

looking like this mixed messages people

looking like this mixed messages people don’t know really what to make us feel

don’t know really what to make us feel

don’t know really what to make us feel so they just bombard us with so much

so they just bombard us with so much

so they just bombard us with so much information and I don’t want to can

information and I don’t want to can

information and I don’t want to can doubt this to statistic but I’ll just

doubt this to statistic but I’ll just

doubt this to statistic but I’ll just tell you anyway

tell you anyway

tell you anyway they figured out that about four years

they figured out that about four years

they figured out that about four years of your life is gonna be wasted deleting

of your life is gonna be wasted deleting

of your life is gonna be wasted deleting and going through spam and irrelevant

and going through spam and irrelevant

and going through spam and irrelevant advertising isn’t that great to know you

advertising isn’t that great to know you

advertising isn’t that great to know you know even when we are putting together a

know even when we are putting together a

know even when we are putting together a poster for one of our movies we have to

poster for one of our movies we have to

poster for one of our movies we have to think to ourselves are we giving people

think to ourselves are we giving people

think to ourselves are we giving people the right feeling you know when people

the right feeling you know when people

the right feeling you know when people have an attention span of about eight

have an attention span of about eight

have an attention span of about eight seconds they’re driving in their car

seconds they’re driving in their car

seconds they’re driving in their car they see one of the posters for a movie

they see one of the posters for a movie

they see one of the posters for a movie and they see a rack with a carrot what

and they see a rack with a carrot what

and they see a rack with a carrot what is he what is he he’s a lover he’s a

is he what is he he’s a lover he’s a

is he what is he he’s a lover he’s a dancer what does that mean and that was

dancer what does that mean and that was

dancer what does that mean and that was our first poster we put out and we

our first poster we put out and we

our first poster we put out and we realized quickly that is sending out the

realized quickly that is sending out the

realized quickly that is sending out the wrong feeling and then we redid it with

wrong feeling and then we redid it with

wrong feeling and then we redid it with this one

this one

this one a rat who’s dying to be a chef and we

a rat who’s dying to be a chef and we

a rat who’s dying to be a chef and we see him holding that cheese and all the

see him holding that cheese and all the

see him holding that cheese and all the fancy knives and now we get it it’s

fancy knives and now we get it it’s

fancy knives and now we get it it’s about creating the right feeling I also

about creating the right feeling I also

about creating the right feeling I also noticed when people don’t know what kind

noticed when people don’t know what kind

noticed when people don’t know what kind of feeling they want to crave for their

of feeling they want to crave for their

of feeling they want to crave for their film or if their visual images or their

film or if their visual images or their

film or if their visual images or their their company then we go into this we

their company then we go into this we

their company then we go into this we don’t know what to do so let’s just do

don’t know what to do so let’s just do

don’t know what to do so let’s just do what everybody else is doing

what everybody else is doing

what everybody else is doing and I’m telling you it’s like okay if

and I’m telling you it’s like okay if

and I’m telling you it’s like okay if it’s action alright that’s calm if it’s

it’s action alright that’s calm if it’s

it’s action alright that’s calm if it’s a romantic comedy let’s let’s do this

a romantic comedy let’s let’s do this

a romantic comedy let’s let’s do this and this isn’t just for films I see this

and this isn’t just for films I see this

and this isn’t just for films I see this happen all the time with just regular

happen all the time with just regular

happen all the time with just regular advertisements these are all different

advertisements these are all different

advertisements these are all different ads for watches but they all blend in so

ads for watches but they all blend in so

ads for watches but they all blend in so you really want to think no matter what

you really want to think no matter what

you really want to think no matter what you do in life okay art a startup create

you do in life okay art a startup create

you do in life okay art a startup create a company make sure that you are leaving

a company make sure that you are leaving

a company make sure that you are leaving people with a feeling and when you know

people with a feeling and when you know

people with a feeling and when you know what that feeling is that becomes your

what that feeling is that becomes your

what that feeling is that becomes your North Star

North Star

North Star so that every decision you make from the

so that every decision you make from the

so that every decision you make from the logo to your website to the characters

logo to your website to the characters

logo to your website to the characters in the movie that everything is working

in the movie that everything is working

in the movie that everything is working towards that one goal like I mentioned

towards that one goal like I mentioned

towards that one goal like I mentioned it the Disney Company it’s all about

it the Disney Company it’s all about

it the Disney Company it’s all about entertainment and delighting the

entertainment and delighting the

entertainment and delighting the audience and everybody from the guy

audience and everybody from the guy

audience and everybody from the guy cleaning the sidewalks of Disney what at

cleaning the sidewalks of Disney what at

cleaning the sidewalks of Disney what at Disneyland are drawing pictures of

Disneyland are drawing pictures of

Disneyland are drawing pictures of characters on the sidewalk to the

characters on the sidewalk to the

characters on the sidewalk to the creative executive and CEOs everything

creative executive and CEOs everything

creative executive and CEOs everything goes back to this one

goes back to this one

goes back to this one feeling so whatever you do in life

feeling so whatever you do in life

feeling so whatever you do in life always ask yourself what do you want

always ask yourself what do you want

always ask yourself what do you want people to feel what do you want to leave

people to feel what do you want to leave

people to feel what do you want to leave with them so I’m going to show you one

with them so I’m going to show you one

with them so I’m going to show you one clip that just came out recently it’s

clip that just came out recently it’s

clip that just came out recently it’s very moving and I want to share with you

very moving and I want to share with you

very moving and I want to share with you real quick did you look outside

real quick did you look outside

real quick did you look outside [Music]

yours coming down to make you feel my

yours coming down to make you feel my love when the evening shadows and the

love when the evening shadows and the

love when the evening shadows and the stars appear there is no one there to

stars appear there is no one there to

stars appear there is no one there to try your tears I could hold you for me

to make you feel

to make you feel [Music]

go to the answer to make you feel my

go to the answer to make you feel my love cuz in the end no one is gonna

love cuz in the end no one is gonna

love cuz in the end no one is gonna remember what we said no one’s gonna

remember what we said no one’s gonna

remember what we said no one’s gonna remember what we did but people are

remember what we did but people are

remember what we did but people are always gonna remember how we made them

always gonna remember how we made them

always gonna remember how we made them feel thank you

feel thank you

feel thank you [Applause]

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