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child marriage occurs in more than 50

child marriage occurs in more than 50 developing countries around the world

developing countries around the world

developing countries around the world and almost always results in the girls

and almost always results in the girls

and almost always results in the girls removal from school what families don’t

removal from school what families don’t

removal from school what families don’t realize is that by curtailing girls

realize is that by curtailing girls

realize is that by curtailing girls education they’re only perpetuating the

education they’re only perpetuating the

education they’re only perpetuating the cycle of poverty still families do this

cycle of poverty still families do this

cycle of poverty still families do this for a number of reasons perhaps they

for a number of reasons perhaps they

for a number of reasons perhaps they can’t afford to feed the rest of their

can’t afford to feed the rest of their

can’t afford to feed the rest of their children it can create family alliances

children it can create family alliances

children it can create family alliances and it often settles debts early

and it often settles debts early

and it often settles debts early marriage often results in abusive and

marriage often results in abusive and

marriage often results in abusive and even deadly consequences

I first ran into this issue in

I first ran into this issue in Afghanistan in 2003 I was doing a story

Afghanistan in 2003 I was doing a story

Afghanistan in 2003 I was doing a story on the burn ward in Herat Afghanistan

on the burn ward in Herat Afghanistan

on the burn ward in Herat Afghanistan there several girls had set themselves

there several girls had set themselves

there several girls had set themselves on fire and I didn’t understand why they

on fire and I didn’t understand why they

on fire and I didn’t understand why they would do that as a westerner as someone

would do that as a westerner as someone

would do that as a westerner as someone who you know just had it had anything

who you know just had it had anything

who you know just had it had anything personal in my life that was so bad that

personal in my life that was so bad that

personal in my life that was so bad that I would want to do that and then I met

I would want to do that and then I met

I would want to do that and then I met this young girl Marcia she was 15 years

this young girl Marcia she was 15 years

this young girl Marcia she was 15 years old and turned out she had been married

old and turned out she had been married

old and turned out she had been married at the age of nine and she had set

at the age of nine and she had set

at the age of nine and she had set herself on fire because she broke her

herself on fire because she broke her

herself on fire because she broke her husband’s television set and you know

husband’s television set and you know

husband’s television set and you know obviously was so fearful of reaction by

obviously was so fearful of reaction by

obviously was so fearful of reaction by him or the family that she decided to

him or the family that she decided to

him or the family that she decided to set herself on fire and really that’s a

set herself on fire and really that’s a

set herself on fire and really that’s a suicide attempt so while I was in the

suicide attempt so while I was in the

suicide attempt so while I was in the burn Ward I met several girls who they

burn Ward I met several girls who they

burn Ward I met several girls who they all gave different reasons for why they

all gave different reasons for why they

all gave different reasons for why they would do this like someone didn’t make

would do this like someone didn’t make

would do this like someone didn’t make the tea hot enough it wasn’t reasons

the tea hot enough it wasn’t reasons

the tea hot enough it wasn’t reasons that I could comprehend the more I

that I could comprehend the more I

that I could comprehend the more I researched about their lives

researched about their lives

researched about their lives I learned that more than half of those

I learned that more than half of those

I learned that more than half of those girls were married underaged now I don’t

girls were married underaged now I don’t

girls were married underaged now I don’t believe that’s the only reason why those

believe that’s the only reason why those

believe that’s the only reason why those girls did that but at the same time it

girls did that but at the same time it

girls did that but at the same time it was a common denominator I couldn’t deny

was a common denominator I couldn’t deny

was a common denominator I couldn’t deny I wanted to look at the issues that

I wanted to look at the issues that

I wanted to look at the issues that would lead to such a horrific act I felt

would lead to such a horrific act I felt

would lead to such a horrific act I felt it was a bit irresponsible actually as a

it was a bit irresponsible actually as a

it was a bit irresponsible actually as a photojournalist the journalist part

photojournalist the journalist part

photojournalist the journalist part being important to just show this end

being important to just show this end

being important to just show this end result so I started looking at the issue

result so I started looking at the issue

result so I started looking at the issue of underage marriage something I had

of underage marriage something I had

of underage marriage something I had never encountered before like this I had

never encountered before like this I had

never encountered before like this I had the great fortune to meet mullah like a

the great fortune to meet mullah like a

the great fortune to meet mullah like a car and she was a police officer in

car and she was a police officer in

car and she was a police officer in Kandahar just a powerhouse really

Kandahar just a powerhouse really

Kandahar just a powerhouse really amazing woman and so she had been

amazing woman and so she had been

amazing woman and so she had been working with in the police department

working with in the police department

working with in the police department for more than 20 years even under the

for more than 20 years even under the

for more than 20 years even under the Taliban only working on women’s issues

Taliban only working on women’s issues

Taliban only working on women’s issues and so I told her what I was working on

and so I told her what I was working on

and so I told her what I was working on and she said Stephanie this is

and she said Stephanie this is

and she said Stephanie this is impossible you’re never going to

impossible you’re never going to

impossible you’re never going to photograph a wedding here in Afghanistan

photograph a wedding here in Afghanistan

photograph a wedding here in Afghanistan she’s like no I don’t even know if I can

she’s like no I don’t even know if I can

she’s like no I don’t even know if I can even get you anything like this she’s

even get you anything like this she’s

even get you anything like this she’s like it happens all the time but I don’t

like it happens all the time but I don’t

like it happens all the time but I don’t know if I can get you this and I said

know if I can get you this and I said

know if I can get you this and I said okay so then I went back to the hotel

okay so then I went back to the hotel

okay so then I went back to the hotel and she called me that afternoon she’s

and she called me that afternoon she’s

and she called me that afternoon she’s like Stephanie get over here and she had

like Stephanie get over here and she had

like Stephanie get over here and she had this young girl jameelah which actually

this young girl jameelah which actually

this young girl jameelah which actually means beautiful and Arabic but this

means beautiful and Arabic but this

means beautiful and Arabic but this young girl Jamila she was 15 years old

young girl Jamila she was 15 years old

young girl Jamila she was 15 years old she had been stabbed by her husband this

she had been stabbed by her husband this

she had been stabbed by her husband this is her husband there she already had two

is her husband there she already had two

is her husband there she already had two kids and she had just been trying to

kids and she had just been trying to

kids and she had just been trying to visit her mother without his permission

visit her mother without his permission

visit her mother without his permission and so I asked Moll I said what’s going

and so I asked Moll I said what’s going

and so I asked Moll I said what’s going to happen to this man and she said

to happen to this man and she said

to happen to this man and she said nothing she and she kind of scoffed and

nothing she and she kind of scoffed and

nothing she and she kind of scoffed and then that’s when she said men are Kings

then that’s when she said men are Kings

then that’s when she said men are Kings here and unfortunately she was the one

here and unfortunately she was the one

here and unfortunately she was the one who was later murdered by the Taliban

who was later murdered by the Taliban

who was later murdered by the Taliban having worked in the Middle East for a

having worked in the Middle East for a

having worked in the Middle East for a long time I really wanted to make sure

long time I really wanted to make sure

long time I really wanted to make sure this wasn’t something that was just

this wasn’t something that was just

this wasn’t something that was just against one religious practice you know

against one religious practice you know

against one religious practice you know it’s not meant to be against any

it’s not meant to be against any

it’s not meant to be against any religion really just practice but I

religion really just practice but I

religion really just practice but I didn’t want it to single out one and so

didn’t want it to single out one and so

didn’t want it to single out one and so I went looking in different countries

I went looking in different countries

I went looking in different countries and cultures as well and so this series

and cultures as well and so this series

and cultures as well and so this series of photographs is from Nepal and this is

of photographs is from Nepal and this is

of photographs is from Nepal and this is a village called the karate village and

a village called the karate village and

a village called the karate village and it’s just only 30 minutes outside of

it’s just only 30 minutes outside of

it’s just only 30 minutes outside of Kathmandu this village is known for

Kathmandu this village is known for

Kathmandu this village is known for practicing in this and there’s a day

practicing in this and there’s a day

practicing in this and there’s a day it’s not a cottage which they do in

it’s not a cottage which they do in

it’s not a cottage which they do in India but it’s a different auspicious

India but it’s a different auspicious

India but it’s a different auspicious day where a lot of girls are married on

day where a lot of girls are married on

day where a lot of girls are married on the same day and so I was able to see

the same day and so I was able to see

the same day and so I was able to see several of these young marriages the

several of these young marriages the

several of these young marriages the girls are usually married between 13 and

girls are usually married between 13 and

girls are usually married between 13 and 16 it was very difficult to get access

16 it was very difficult to get access

16 it was very difficult to get access to in a lot of cases I showed them some

to in a lot of cases I showed them some

to in a lot of cases I showed them some of the other pictures that I had done

of the other pictures that I had done

of the other pictures that I had done before and I wanted them to know that I

before and I wanted them to know that I

before and I wanted them to know that I wasn’t you know even though I mean I was

wasn’t you know even though I mean I was

wasn’t you know even though I mean I was focusing specifically in the beginning

focusing specifically in the beginning

focusing specifically in the beginning of the project on kind of the harmful

of the project on kind of the harmful

of the project on kind of the harmful repercussions because I wanted that

repercussions because I wanted that

repercussions because I wanted that message to get out but at the same time

message to get out but at the same time

message to get out but at the same time I wanted to show the cultures of the

I wanted to show the cultures of the

I wanted to show the cultures of the weddings and the beauty in these

weddings and the beauty in these

weddings and the beauty in these cultures and that was one of the reasons

cultures and that was one of the reasons

cultures and that was one of the reasons why I actually wanted to show the

why I actually wanted to show the

why I actually wanted to show the weddings themselves because you know you

weddings themselves because you know you

weddings themselves because you know you see all these beautiful colors and there

see all these beautiful colors and there

see all these beautiful colors and there are some really beautiful traditions one

are some really beautiful traditions one

are some really beautiful traditions one thing that I learned was that some of

thing that I learned was that some of

thing that I learned was that some of the people in these weddings that were

the people in these weddings that were

the people in these weddings that were participating were actually against the

participating were actually against the

participating were actually against the practice but they were walking a fine

practice but they were walking a fine

practice but they were walking a fine line between trying to like speak out

line between trying to like speak out

line between trying to like speak out but also they had they were part of the

but also they had they were part of the

but also they had they were part of the culture and so they wanted to help me

culture and so they wanted to help me

culture and so they wanted to help me out and help be their voice I also went

out and help be their voice I also went

out and help be their voice I also went to Ethiopia where they have a strong

to Ethiopia where they have a strong

to Ethiopia where they have a strong Christian population in January there’s

Christian population in January there’s

Christian population in January there’s a lot of weddings up in the UM horrid

a lot of weddings up in the UM horrid

a lot of weddings up in the UM horrid district which is where it’s most

district which is where it’s most

district which is where it’s most predominant in Ethiopia and I went to

predominant in Ethiopia and I went to

predominant in Ethiopia and I went to several weddings there and this one was

several weddings there and this one was

several weddings there and this one was of a young girl I think she was 14 lai

of a young girl I think she was 14 lai

of a young girl I think she was 14 lai ulam and here they actually drape this

ulam and here they actually drape this

ulam and here they actually drape this sheet over her head to take her to her

sheet over her head to take her to her

sheet over her head to take her to her husband’s house and so that’s when they

husband’s house and so that’s when they

husband’s house and so that’s when they were taking her and actually she was one

were taking her and actually she was one

were taking her and actually she was one of the girls who didn’t mind that she

of the girls who didn’t mind that she

of the girls who didn’t mind that she was getting married she thought she was

was getting married she thought she was

was getting married she thought she was going to have a better life so she

going to have a better life so she

going to have a better life so she wasn’t against her

wasn’t against her

wasn’t against her marriage but they were taking her to the

marriage but they were taking her to the

marriage but they were taking her to the house and I asked why she covered up

house and I asked why she covered up

house and I asked why she covered up like that and she said well we just want

like that and she said well we just want

like that and she said well we just want to make sure that if she escaped she

to make sure that if she escaped she

to make sure that if she escaped she can’t find her way home so she’ll have

can’t find her way home so she’ll have

can’t find her way home so she’ll have to come back this is the first time that

to come back this is the first time that

to come back this is the first time that I actually was involved in the stopping

I actually was involved in the stopping

I actually was involved in the stopping of a wedding in this situation the

of a wedding in this situation the

of a wedding in this situation the mother came over and she said to my

mother came over and she said to my

mother came over and she said to my translator that this girl was going to

translator that this girl was going to

translator that this girl was going to get married that week she asked us if we

get married that week she asked us if we

get married that week she asked us if we could stop it and I said I really don’t

could stop it and I said I really don’t

could stop it and I said I really don’t know that’s not my job to do that it’s

know that’s not my job to do that it’s

know that’s not my job to do that it’s not my position as a foreigner not even

not my position as a foreigner not even

not my position as a foreigner not even as a journalist but as a foreigner and I

as a journalist but as a foreigner and I

as a journalist but as a foreigner and I said but if you want to discuss it with

said but if you want to discuss it with

said but if you want to discuss it with the Sheikh and with our we have a

the Sheikh and with our we have a

the Sheikh and with our we have a government minder as well if you want to

government minder as well if you want to

government minder as well if you want to discuss it and tell them what you

discuss it and tell them what you

discuss it and tell them what you learned then you can and so that’s what

learned then you can and so that’s what

learned then you can and so that’s what she did they made a decision even the

she did they made a decision even the

she did they made a decision even the government minder made a decision to go

government minder made a decision to go

government minder made a decision to go talk to the head of the hospital not so

talk to the head of the hospital not so

talk to the head of the hospital not so far away and they came back and they

far away and they came back and they

far away and they came back and they talked to the village about the physical

talked to the village about the physical

talked to the village about the physical consequences of early marriage and they

consequences of early marriage and they

consequences of early marriage and they ended up stopping this particular

ended up stopping this particular

ended up stopping this particular wedding and this is a young girl who was

wedding and this is a young girl who was

wedding and this is a young girl who was early 20s and already had all those

early 20s and already had all those

early 20s and already had all those children and this is a young girl named

children and this is a young girl named

children and this is a young girl named aja and she was 14 and already had two

aja and she was 14 and already had two

aja and she was 14 and already had two children she was still bleeding from her

children she was still bleeding from her

children she was still bleeding from her pregnancy she didn’t know what was going

pregnancy she didn’t know what was going

pregnancy she didn’t know what was going on with her body and that was one of the

on with her body and that was one of the

on with her body and that was one of the scariest situations is I’m not knowing

scariest situations is I’m not knowing

scariest situations is I’m not knowing what’s going on with their bodies and

what’s going on with their bodies and

what’s going on with their bodies and and why things are happening to them

and why things are happening to them

and why things are happening to them Yemen is one of the places where it’s

Yemen is one of the places where it’s

Yemen is one of the places where it’s most predominant it’s not as reported on

most predominant it’s not as reported on

most predominant it’s not as reported on because it’s harder to get statistics

because it’s harder to get statistics

because it’s harder to get statistics and and whatnot from but an amazing

and and whatnot from but an amazing

and and whatnot from but an amazing situation I went to one village in haja

situation I went to one village in haja

situation I went to one village in haja and I said can you show me where there

and I said can you show me where there

and I said can you show me where there are some young girls who were married

are some young girls who were married

are some young girls who were married underage and so all of a sudden all

underage and so all of a sudden all

underage and so all of a sudden all these girls come in and I was like wow I

these girls come in and I was like wow I

these girls come in and I was like wow I was expecting like two so all these

was expecting like two so all these

was expecting like two so all these girls were married a couple of them had

girls were married a couple of them had

girls were married a couple of them had children most of them were about 15 16

children most of them were about 15 16

children most of them were about 15 16 most of them were not in school or had

most of them were not in school or had

most of them were not in school or had never been in school and I asked them

never been in school and I asked them

never been in school and I asked them why hadn’t they gone and they said

why hadn’t they gone and they said

why hadn’t they gone and they said because there’s no female teachers when

because there’s no female teachers when

because there’s no female teachers when you have a culture like this where if

you have a culture like this where if

you have a culture like this where if you don’t have girls who are educated to

you don’t have girls who are educated to

you don’t have girls who are educated to be enough to become teachers then how do

be enough to become teachers then how do

be enough to become teachers then how do you put female teachers in these rural

you put female teachers in these rural

you put female teachers in these rural areas because this is

areas because this is

areas because this is so nah this isn’t even ha data this is

so nah this isn’t even ha data this is

so nah this isn’t even ha data this is like the rural village areas and so it’s

like the rural village areas and so it’s

like the rural village areas and so it’s hard to change a culture cultural

hard to change a culture cultural

hard to change a culture cultural practices where you know there’s nothing

practices where you know there’s nothing

practices where you know there’s nothing for them to do but get married if

for them to do but get married if

for them to do but get married if they’re not educated to do anything else

they’re not educated to do anything else

they’re not educated to do anything else so it was kind of a catch-22 and I felt

so it was kind of a catch-22 and I felt

so it was kind of a catch-22 and I felt that that was an important part of this

that that was an important part of this

that that was an important part of this story thank you so I started in India on

story thank you so I started in India on

story thank you so I started in India on my in my fieldwork because it is the

my in my fieldwork because it is the

my in my fieldwork because it is the case of course that this happens a great

case of course that this happens a great

case of course that this happens a great deal in India as well as other countries

deal in India as well as other countries

deal in India as well as other countries in India being one of the most populous

in India being one of the most populous

in India being one of the most populous countries on the planet there’s a whole

countries on the planet there’s a whole

countries on the planet there’s a whole area in northern India the state of

area in northern India the state of

area in northern India the state of Rajasthan where this practice is more

Rajasthan where this practice is more

Rajasthan where this practice is more widespread than anywhere else

widespread than anywhere else

widespread than anywhere else concentrated in India although it does

concentrated in India although it does

concentrated in India although it does take place all over India and in

take place all over India and in

take place all over India and in particular there is a season in India

particular there is a season in India

particular there is a season in India called a cottage which it’s not

called a cottage which it’s not

called a cottage which it’s not specifically marriages that are regarded

specifically marriages that are regarded

specifically marriages that are regarded as auspicious as we came to learn during

as auspicious as we came to learn during

as auspicious as we came to learn during a cottage all new enterprises including

a cottage all new enterprises including

a cottage all new enterprises including business enterprises are thought to have

business enterprises are thought to have

business enterprises are thought to have a good start if they take place during

a good start if they take place during

a good start if they take place during this set of religious and astrological

this set of religious and astrological

this set of religious and astrological holidays in a cottage so I first went

holidays in a cottage so I first went

holidays in a cottage so I first went Stephanie and I didn’t connect until the

Stephanie and I didn’t connect until the

Stephanie and I didn’t connect until the second trip I first went and spent a lot

second trip I first went and spent a lot

second trip I first went and spent a lot of time just in the field that Stephanie

of time just in the field that Stephanie

of time just in the field that Stephanie says just talking to people and coming

says just talking to people and coming

says just talking to people and coming to understand how extraordinary how

to understand how extraordinary how

to understand how extraordinary how extraordinarily complicated this is

extraordinarily complicated this is

extraordinarily complicated this is here’s something that we all sort of

here’s something that we all sort of

here’s something that we all sort of know in the abstract but that takes a

know in the abstract but that takes a

know in the abstract but that takes a very different reality when you’re in

very different reality when you’re in

very different reality when you’re in India many many of the marriages in

India many many of the marriages in

India many many of the marriages in India are arranged marriages

India are arranged marriages

India are arranged marriages it is thus it remains to this day the

it is thus it remains to this day the

it is thus it remains to this day the most common way for marriage to occur in

most common way for marriage to occur in

most common way for marriage to occur in India for young men and young women so

India for young men and young women so

India for young men and young women so the notion that there is some

the notion that there is some

the notion that there is some independent right for a woman or a girl

independent right for a woman or a girl

independent right for a woman or a girl to select who she’s going to marry is

to select who she’s going to marry is

to select who she’s going to marry is regarded in many of the most enlightened

regarded in many of the most enlightened

regarded in many of the most enlightened families in India as just nonsensical

families in India as just nonsensical

families in India as just nonsensical because that’s not the way you do it a

because that’s not the way you do it a

because that’s not the way you do it a marriage Indians would say to me of all

marriage Indians would say to me of all

marriage Indians would say to me of all educational levels is a joining of two

educational levels is a joining of two

educational levels is a joining of two families it’s not to excuse me to

families it’s not to excuse me to

families it’s not to excuse me to foolish young people in love with each

foolish young people in love with each

foolish young people in love with each other

other

other deciding to get married they’re so very

deciding to get married they’re so very

deciding to get married they’re so very much more at stake so that goes out the

much more at stake so that goes out the

much more at stake so that goes out the door right away then you think about a

door right away then you think about a

door right away then you think about a village a very poor village as this one

village a very poor village as this one

village a very poor village as this one was where the only option for a girl

was where the only option for a girl

was where the only option for a girl growing up

growing up

growing up is to work on a field in tremendous heat

is to work on a field in tremendous heat

is to work on a field in tremendous heat or tremendous monsoon and suffer

or tremendous monsoon and suffer

or tremendous monsoon and suffer possibly the consequences of having some

possibly the consequences of having some

possibly the consequences of having some young man or boy have sex with her

young man or boy have sex with her

young man or boy have sex with her before she’s married which in that

before she’s married which in that

before she’s married which in that culture renders her basically an outcast

culture renders her basically an outcast

culture renders her basically an outcast for the rest of her life so those are

for the rest of her life so those are

for the rest of her life so those are two things right there that are very

two things right there that are very

two things right there that are very different from anything that a typical

different from anything that a typical

different from anything that a typical American or western young woman might

American or western young woman might

American or western young woman might have to contemplate in her future this

have to contemplate in her future this

have to contemplate in her future this village is the one that we went to after

village is the one that we went to after

village is the one that we went to after weeks and weeks and weeks of hanging

weeks and weeks and weeks of hanging

weeks and weeks and weeks of hanging around on both of our parts Stephanie is

around on both of our parts Stephanie is

around on both of our parts Stephanie is the most amazing hanger around her

the most amazing hanger around her

the most amazing hanger around her waiting for things to happen I’ve ever

waiting for things to happen I’ve ever

waiting for things to happen I’ve ever encountered and she does it in the most

encountered and she does it in the most

encountered and she does it in the most brutal circumstances you can imagine we

brutal circumstances you can imagine we

brutal circumstances you can imagine we had been told that there were two

had been told that there were two

had been told that there were two adolescent girls sisters who were going

adolescent girls sisters who were going

adolescent girls sisters who were going to be married and that it was going to

to be married and that it was going to

to be married and that it was going to take place at night and that if we were

take place at night and that if we were

take place at night and that if we were very careful and did all sorts of

very careful and did all sorts of

very careful and did all sorts of elegant negotiations and brought some

elegant negotiations and brought some

elegant negotiations and brought some kind of a token of respect to the

kind of a token of respect to the

kind of a token of respect to the village we could watch so we came we

village we could watch so we came we

village we could watch so we came we were prepared for the wedding of a 12

were prepared for the wedding of a 12

were prepared for the wedding of a 12 year old and a 13 year old or something

year old and a 13 year old or something

year old and a 13 year old or something like that we’ve been told this is one of

like that we’ve been told this is one of

like that we’ve been told this is one of the teenage girls preparing putting on

the teenage girls preparing putting on

the teenage girls preparing putting on her makeup this is a big event both for

her makeup this is a big event both for

her makeup this is a big event both for the girls and for everyone in the

the girls and for everyone in the

the girls and for everyone in the village the entire village is consumed

village the entire village is consumed

village the entire village is consumed by the festivities that are coming to

by the festivities that are coming to

by the festivities that are coming to pass this little girl was part of the

pass this little girl was part of the

pass this little girl was part of the family that we met and her face will

family that we met and her face will

family that we met and her face will haunt me for the rest of my days that is

haunt me for the rest of my days that is

haunt me for the rest of my days that is very much what she looked like we first

very much what she looked like we first

very much what she looked like we first saw her in the afternoon in her little

saw her in the afternoon in her little

saw her in the afternoon in her little pink dress as she was wandering around

pink dress as she was wandering around

pink dress as she was wandering around we said who is that they said oh she’s

we said who is that they said oh she’s

we said who is that they said oh she’s the cousin of the two sisters people

the cousin of the two sisters people

the cousin of the two sisters people were kind of circumspect about it then

were kind of circumspect about it then

were kind of circumspect about it then they started putting makeup on this

they started putting makeup on this

they started putting makeup on this little girl I remember this room it was

little girl I remember this room it was

little girl I remember this room it was a tiny little room in the village it was

a tiny little room in the village it was

a tiny little room in the village it was enormous ly hot everybody was crammed in

enormous ly hot everybody was crammed in

enormous ly hot everybody was crammed in there of course there were only women as

there of course there were only women as

there of course there were only women as you might imagine crammed into this

you might imagine crammed into this

you might imagine crammed into this thing and Stephanie and I just sat

thing and Stephanie and I just sat

thing and Stephanie and I just sat watching and we all began to realize and

watching and we all began to realize and

watching and we all began to realize and are in our translator who was also a

are in our translator who was also a

are in our translator who was also a young woman began to realize what we

young woman began to realize what we

young woman began to realize what we thought was likely to happen and this

thought was likely to happen and this

thought was likely to happen and this horrible feeling grew in all of us

horrible feeling grew in all of us

horrible feeling grew in all of us Stephanie had been living with this

Stephanie had been living with this

Stephanie had been living with this reality for many years longer than any

reality for many years longer than any

reality for many years longer than any of us but I think if I’m not mistaken

of us but I think if I’m not mistaken

of us but I think if I’m not mistaken Stephanie that this was the first time

Stephanie that this was the first time

Stephanie that this was the first time you had actually seen a child this young

you had actually seen a child this young

you had actually seen a child this young being prepared for what looked like her

being prepared for what looked like her

being prepared for what looked like her wedding the women gathered around there

wedding the women gathered around there

wedding the women gathered around there were many many prenuptial traditions

were many many prenuptial traditions

were many many prenuptial traditions some of which were quite beautiful in

some of which were quite beautiful in

some of which were quite beautiful in the tremendous heat

the tremendous heat

the tremendous heat I remember them walking with crockery on

I remember them walking with crockery on

I remember them walking with crockery on their head across a long field and at

their head across a long field and at

their head across a long field and at one point the cloth that you see behind

one point the cloth that you see behind

one point the cloth that you see behind they had multiple kinds of beautiful

they had multiple kinds of beautiful

they had multiple kinds of beautiful sari cloth strung out all over the

sari cloth strung out all over the

sari cloth strung out all over the village to make canopies to make

village to make canopies to make

village to make canopies to make celebratory places because people were

celebratory places because people were

celebratory places because people were going to come from far and wide so the

going to come from far and wide so the

going to come from far and wide so the women are standing behind there’s the

women are standing behind there’s the

women are standing behind there’s the three girls and they’re all bathing in

three girls and they’re all bathing in

three girls and they’re all bathing in there in the dirt and now they were

there in the dirt and now they were

there in the dirt and now they were washing the little girl and now we

washing the little girl and now we

washing the little girl and now we understood for sure that she was going

understood for sure that she was going

understood for sure that she was going to be part of the wedding the

to be part of the wedding the

to be part of the wedding the proceedings went on for hours that’s

proceedings went on for hours that’s

proceedings went on for hours that’s typical for an Indian wedding

typical for an Indian wedding

typical for an Indian wedding it’s especially typical for weddings in

it’s especially typical for weddings in

it’s especially typical for weddings in this part of northern India where when

this part of northern India where when

this part of northern India where when they are breaking the law

they are breaking the law

they are breaking the law as it’s important to remember they were

as it’s important to remember they were

as it’s important to remember they were doing this is not a legal practice in

doing this is not a legal practice in

doing this is not a legal practice in India it has not been for over a century

India it has not been for over a century

India it has not been for over a century and that’s the case in most not all but

and that’s the case in most not all but

and that’s the case in most not all but most of the countries in which child

most of the countries in which child

most of the countries in which child marriage takes place if you go to the

marriage takes place if you go to the

marriage takes place if you go to the Indian authorities at the state the

Indian authorities at the state the

Indian authorities at the state the provincial at the local level the state

provincial at the local level the state

provincial at the local level the state level in the national level they will

level in the national level they will

level in the national level they will decry this practice just as vigorously

decry this practice just as vigorously

decry this practice just as vigorously as anyone here in the United States

as anyone here in the United States

as anyone here in the United States would but they will also say it’s very

would but they will also say it’s very

would but they will also say it’s very difficult to climb into these cultures

difficult to climb into these cultures

difficult to climb into these cultures and find out what’s going on and

and find out what’s going on and

and find out what’s going on and furthermore when you do get the word of

furthermore when you do get the word of

furthermore when you do get the word of what’s going on if you try to stop it

what’s going on if you try to stop it

what’s going on if you try to stop it which way they will sometimes do they

which way they will sometimes do they

which way they will sometimes do they will make a great show they will throw

will make a great show they will throw

will make a great show they will throw someone in jail you have probably

someone in jail you have probably

someone in jail you have probably disgraced that family for a generation

disgraced that family for a generation

disgraced that family for a generation to come you have probably not stopped

to come you have probably not stopped

to come you have probably not stopped the girl from getting married too early

the girl from getting married too early

the girl from getting married too early you have certainly not given her a life

you have certainly not given her a life

you have certainly not given her a life which would be a healthy option to being

which would be a healthy option to being

which would be a healthy option to being married what have you done it’s a huge

married what have you done it’s a huge

married what have you done it’s a huge and complex problem the night comes the

and complex problem the night comes the

and complex problem the night comes the ceremonial fire is lit and the

ceremonial fire is lit and the

ceremonial fire is lit and the expression on the children’s face is one

expression on the children’s face is one

expression on the children’s face is one of pretty much utter bewilderment I

of pretty much utter bewilderment I

of pretty much utter bewilderment I would say the extent to which this this

would say the extent to which this this

would say the extent to which this this young boy who’s about three years older

young boy who’s about three years older

young boy who’s about three years older than our five year old understood what

than our five year old understood what

than our five year old understood what was going on

was going on

was going on was really not possible for us to know

was really not possible for us to know

was really not possible for us to know the older brothers were obviously

the older brothers were obviously

the older brothers were obviously clearer about what was happening these

clearer about what was happening these

clearer about what was happening these children were not and it’s also because

children were not and it’s also because

children were not and it’s also because it’s such a long drawn-out ceremony it

it’s such a long drawn-out ceremony it

it’s such a long drawn-out ceremony it has none of what we regard as the sort

has none of what we regard as the sort

has none of what we regard as the sort of tidiness of a Western ceremony I now

of tidiness of a Western ceremony I now

of tidiness of a Western ceremony I now pronounce you husband and wife boom were

pronounce you husband and wife boom were

pronounce you husband and wife boom were done it went on and on and on this is

done it went on and on and on this is

done it went on and on and on this is the picture that haunts me still and the

the picture that haunts me still and the

the picture that haunts me still and the reason I wanted to show it to you

reason I wanted to show it to you

reason I wanted to show it to you afterward is that this picture conveys

afterward is that this picture conveys

afterward is that this picture conveys utterly the confusing feeling of that

utterly the confusing feeling of that

utterly the confusing feeling of that evening at this moment she’s taken a nap

evening at this moment she’s taken a nap

evening at this moment she’s taken a nap she’s been awakened from her nap and

she’s been awakened from her nap and

she’s been awakened from her nap and she’s being carried to the ceremony and

she’s being carried to the ceremony and

she’s being carried to the ceremony and the tenderness that you see in this

the tenderness that you see in this

the tenderness that you see in this picture on behalf of the man holding her

picture on behalf of the man holding her

picture on behalf of the man holding her was absolutely what we saw there it was

was absolutely what we saw there it was

was absolutely what we saw there it was one of the most complicated scenes I had

one of the most complicated scenes I had

one of the most complicated scenes I had ever seen as a reporter knowing that

ever seen as a reporter knowing that

ever seen as a reporter knowing that this child is going off to something

this child is going off to something

this child is going off to something that is a horrifying notion to me and at

that is a horrifying notion to me and at

that is a horrifying notion to me and at the same time at being very clear that

the same time at being very clear that

the same time at being very clear that the people who are doing it including

the people who are doing it including

the people who are doing it including this uncle who’s carrying her loved her

this uncle who’s carrying her loved her

this uncle who’s carrying her loved her deeply

deeply

deeply and think they’re doing the right thing

and think they’re doing the right thing

and think they’re doing the right thing for her it is important also to remember

for her it is important also to remember

for her it is important also to remember that in India unlike some of the other

that in India unlike some of the other

that in India unlike some of the other countries there is a second ceremony

countries there is a second ceremony

countries there is a second ceremony that takes place the plan typically

that takes place the plan typically

that takes place the plan typically although not always is that this child

although not always is that this child

although not always is that this child will live at home in this case with her

will live at home in this case with her

will live at home in this case with her grandfather and she will not go to her

grandfather and she will not go to her

grandfather and she will not go to her husband’s family until she’s past

husband’s family until she’s past

husband’s family until she’s past puberty that second ceremony is called

puberty that second ceremony is called

puberty that second ceremony is called Ghana and part of what they do in India

Ghana and part of what they do in India

Ghana and part of what they do in India is try as hard as they can to postpone

is try as hard as they can to postpone

is try as hard as they can to postpone the Ghana but it was the gentleness with

the Ghana but it was the gentleness with

the Ghana but it was the gentleness with which this man lifted her from sleep and

which this man lifted her from sleep and

which this man lifted her from sleep and took her to the ceremony that really

took her to the ceremony that really

took her to the ceremony that really haunted me and made me realize how far I

haunted me and made me realize how far I

haunted me and made me realize how far I had come from my original absolute

had come from my original absolute

had come from my original absolute clarity about everybody involved in this

clarity about everybody involved in this

clarity about everybody involved in this practice being simply evil now this

practice being simply evil now this

practice being simply evil now this child is someone for whom I want you to

child is someone for whom I want you to

child is someone for whom I want you to have some hope

have some hope

have some hope I talked to you originally about some of

I talked to you originally about some of

I talked to you originally about some of the reasons that a parent a loving

the reasons that a parent a loving

the reasons that a parent a loving parent would do this you’re protecting

parent would do this you’re protecting

parent would do this you’re protecting your child from possible rape because

your child from possible rape because

your child from possible rape because you live in a society in which loss of

you live in a society in which loss of

you live in a society in which loss of virginity before marriage renders a

virginity before marriage renders a

virginity before marriage renders a young woman an outcast number one number

young woman an outcast number one number

young woman an outcast number one number two you know in the abstract that people

two you know in the abstract that people

two you know in the abstract that people from the government have told you

from the government have told you

from the government have told you schooling is important but that’s kind

schooling is important but that’s kind

schooling is important but that’s kind of irrelevant when you live in a village

of irrelevant when you live in a village

of irrelevant when you live in a village where the only schooling your child can

where the only schooling your child can

where the only schooling your child can get to goes up to fifth grade after

get to goes up to fifth grade after

get to goes up to fifth grade after fifth grade there’s a long bus ride

fifth grade there’s a long bus ride

fifth grade there’s a long bus ride that’s required there are predatory men

that’s required there are predatory men

that’s required there are predatory men on the bus which makes the bus ride

on the bus which makes the bus ride

on the bus which makes the bus ride itself dangerous if you’re in a culture

itself dangerous if you’re in a culture

itself dangerous if you’re in a culture like this you don’t send your child to

like this you don’t send your child to

like this you don’t send your child to that school no matter what a government

that school no matter what a government

that school no matter what a government person is telling you about the

person is telling you about the

person is telling you about the importance of schooling so that stops

importance of schooling so that stops

importance of schooling so that stops right there so if you have no cultural

right there so if you have no cultural

right there so if you have no cultural option no effective schooling past fifth

option no effective schooling past fifth

option no effective schooling past fifth grade no tradition of regard for the

grade no tradition of regard for the

grade no tradition of regard for the importance of individual right in

importance of individual right in

importance of individual right in choosing a marriage a clear life

choosing a marriage a clear life

choosing a marriage a clear life involving rural life agricultural work

involving rural life agricultural work

involving rural life agricultural work and some kind of poverty in your future

and some kind of poverty in your future

and some kind of poverty in your future what do you do to protect your child you

what do you do to protect your child you

what do you do to protect your child you make sure she’s marrying into a good

make sure she’s marrying into a good

make sure she’s marrying into a good family and you do it very young so that

family and you do it very young so that

family and you do it very young so that she won’t be attacked she’ll have some

she won’t be attacked she’ll have some

she won’t be attacked she’ll have some sort of respect as a married child

sort of respect as a married child

sort of respect as a married child already and so that there’s no chance

already and so that there’s no chance

already and so that there’s no chance that she can go astray this child lived

that she can go astray this child lived

that she can go astray this child lived in a village some distance away from the

in a village some distance away from the

in a village some distance away from the one we’d been at previously and she had

one we’d been at previously and she had

one we’d been at previously and she had been in a school where the government

been in a school where the government

been in a school where the government teachers understood how bad child

teachers understood how bad child

teachers understood how bad child marriage was and they had really drummed

marriage was and they had really drummed

marriage was and they had really drummed into all of the children don’t do this

into all of the children don’t do this

into all of the children don’t do this don’t do this her older sister was

don’t do this her older sister was

don’t do this her older sister was getting married in a house just a few

getting married in a house just a few

getting married in a house just a few houses away and the night of the older

houses away and the night of the older

houses away and the night of the older sister’s wedding

sister’s wedding

sister’s wedding her mother do her aside and said you two

her mother do her aside and said you two

her mother do her aside and said you two tied a string around her wrists which

tied a string around her wrists which

tied a string around her wrists which was part of the ceremonial process she

was part of the ceremonial process she

was part of the ceremonial process she jumped up and according to everybody

jumped up and according to everybody

jumped up and according to everybody that we talked to including the mother

that we talked to including the mother

that we talked to including the mother said to her mother and father if you do

said to her mother and father if you do

said to her mother and father if you do that I will call the police and I will

that I will call the police and I will

that I will call the police and I will break your head with a rock those were

break your head with a rock those were

break your head with a rock those were her actual words she read they were they

her actual words she read they were they

her actual words she read they were they said this the mom finally said this to

said this the mom finally said this to

said this the mom finally said this to me with some pride

me with some pride

me with some pride was not someone’s afterward she ran up

was not someone’s afterward she ran up

was not someone’s afterward she ran up the street to the home of a village

the street to the home of a village

the street to the home of a village worker they have these in India they are

worker they have these in India they are

worker they have these in India they are paid for very nominally by the local

paid for very nominally by the local

paid for very nominally by the local governments and their job is to monitor

governments and their job is to monitor

governments and their job is to monitor public health in a general sort of way

public health in a general sort of way

public health in a general sort of way the village worker went over with with

the village worker went over with with

the village worker went over with with her own parents and in-laws to the

her own parents and in-laws to the

her own parents and in-laws to the village and said don’t to this house and

village and said don’t to this house and

village and said don’t to this house and said don’t do this let us tell you all

said don’t do this let us tell you all

said don’t do this let us tell you all the reasons that this is a bad thing for

the reasons that this is a bad thing for

the reasons that this is a bad thing for your daughter astonishingly finally

your daughter astonishingly finally

your daughter astonishingly finally there’s a huge Rao apparently an entire

there’s a huge Rao apparently an entire

there’s a huge Rao apparently an entire village got in on it the parents were

village got in on it the parents were

village got in on it the parents were persuaded she was not married off and by

persuaded she was not married off and by

persuaded she was not married off and by the time I met her some months later she

the time I met her some months later she

the time I met her some months later she was an avid cricket player and those are

was an avid cricket player and those are

was an avid cricket player and those are movie star pictures that she has up in

movie star pictures that she has up in

movie star pictures that she has up in her room and she was preparing to go on

her room and she was preparing to go on

her room and she was preparing to go on to middle school and beyond

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