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What we learned from working with women in prison | JoAnne Tucker & Áine McCarthy | TEDxABQWomen


we’re standing in a circle with several

we’re standing in a circle with several other women hi I’m Anya and I’m excited

other women hi I’m Anya and I’m excited

other women hi I’m Anya and I’m excited today I’m Joanne and I’m very grateful

today I’m Joanne and I’m very grateful

today I’m Joanne and I’m very grateful to be here I’m Carmen and I’m hopeful

to be here I’m Carmen and I’m hopeful

to be here I’m Carmen and I’m hopeful I’m Katherine and I’m sad I missed my

I’m Katherine and I’m sad I missed my

I’m Katherine and I’m sad I missed my children I’m Sabrina and I’m frazzled I

children I’m Sabrina and I’m frazzled I

children I’m Sabrina and I’m frazzled I just got here

just got here

just got here here is the Santa Fe County Adult

here is the Santa Fe County Adult

here is the Santa Fe County Adult Detention Facility

Detention Facility

Detention Facility the c.e.o correctional officer has just

the c.e.o correctional officer has just

the c.e.o correctional officer has just screamed stress management we never know

screamed stress management we never know

screamed stress management we never know how many women will be joining us for

how many women will be joining us for

how many women will be joining us for our stress management program it might

our stress management program it might

our stress management program it might just be one person or the room could be

just be one person or the room could be

just be one person or the room could be filled with ten the classroom were in is

filled with ten the classroom were in is

filled with ten the classroom were in is maybe 10 by 15 feet there’s a window

maybe 10 by 15 feet there’s a window

maybe 10 by 15 feet there’s a window that looks into the hallway with its

that looks into the hallway with its

that looks into the hallway with its constant echoes of steel door slamming

constant echoes of steel door slamming

constant echoes of steel door slamming and security radios beeping and another

and security radios beeping and another

and security radios beeping and another window that looks into a social workers

window that looks into a social workers

window that looks into a social workers office where we often overhear phone

office where we often overhear phone

office where we often overhear phone conversations from newly arrived inmates

conversations from newly arrived inmates

conversations from newly arrived inmates we’re volunteers and for the next hour

we’re volunteers and for the next hour

we’re volunteers and for the next hour and a half we’ll be leading a variety of

and a half we’ll be leading a variety of

and a half we’ll be leading a variety of activities we start with the check in

activities we start with the check in

activities we start with the check in first verbally then with a gesture and

first verbally then with a gesture and

first verbally then with a gesture and we build it into a movement phrase this

we build it into a movement phrase this

we build it into a movement phrase this is the way that we love to begin hearing

is the way that we love to begin hearing

is the way that we love to begin hearing each woman’s voice honoring her feelings

each woman’s voice honoring her feelings

each woman’s voice honoring her feelings and engaging her creativity this is the

and engaging her creativity this is the

and engaging her creativity this is the heart of what we strive to offer in this

heart of what we strive to offer in this

heart of what we strive to offer in this setting a circle where each woman feels

setting a circle where each woman feels

setting a circle where each woman feels respected and can cultivate

respected and can cultivate

respected and can cultivate self-reflection we continue by inviting

self-reflection we continue by inviting

self-reflection we continue by inviting our participants to try different

our participants to try different

our participants to try different practices that are very meaningful to us

practices that are very meaningful to us

practices that are very meaningful to us including yoga and dance meditation and

including yoga and dance meditation and

including yoga and dance meditation and creative writing we usually only see the

creative writing we usually only see the

creative writing we usually only see the participants once or twice because this

participants once or twice because this

participants once or twice because this is a

is a

is a which means it’s temporary they’re

which means it’s temporary they’re

which means it’s temporary they’re awaiting bail awaiting sentencing or

awaiting bail awaiting sentencing or

awaiting bail awaiting sentencing or serving a short sentence occasionally

serving a short sentence occasionally

serving a short sentence occasionally we’re really lucky and we can put

we’re really lucky and we can put

we’re really lucky and we can put together a program that may run over a

together a program that may run over a

together a program that may run over a month or six weeks and build some

month or six weeks and build some

month or six weeks and build some continuity with the women once we were

continuity with the women once we were

continuity with the women once we were able to collaborate in creating a

able to collaborate in creating a

able to collaborate in creating a permanent labyrinth in the recreation

permanent labyrinth in the recreation

permanent labyrinth in the recreation yard at the jail this is the concrete

yard at the jail this is the concrete

yard at the jail this is the concrete enclosed courtyard where the women spend

enclosed courtyard where the women spend

enclosed courtyard where the women spend at most one hour a day outdoors we stood

at most one hour a day outdoors we stood

at most one hour a day outdoors we stood out there under a blue sky framed by

out there under a blue sky framed by

out there under a blue sky framed by silver barbed wire and using a large

silver barbed wire and using a large

silver barbed wire and using a large wooden compass we drew the first circle

wooden compass we drew the first circle

wooden compass we drew the first circle and pencil that would become the center

and pencil that would become the center

and pencil that would become the center of the labyrinth or you arrived after

of the labyrinth or you arrived after

of the labyrinth or you arrived after following a winding path we’re sitting

following a winding path we’re sitting

following a winding path we’re sitting on the ground for the day painting and

on the ground for the day painting and

on the ground for the day painting and laughing together and Sabrina says this

laughing together and Sabrina says this

laughing together and Sabrina says this is so much fun I wish I could be doing

is so much fun I wish I could be doing

is so much fun I wish I could be doing it with my children then there’s a point

it with my children then there’s a point

it with my children then there’s a point where we make a circle inmates

where we make a circle inmates

where we make a circle inmates volunteers and staff that have chosen to

volunteers and staff that have chosen to

volunteers and staff that have chosen to spend their Sunday with us doing this

spend their Sunday with us doing this

spend their Sunday with us doing this project and one by one we dedicate the

project and one by one we dedicate the

project and one by one we dedicate the labyrinth to a place of beauty a place

labyrinth to a place of beauty a place

labyrinth to a place of beauty a place to cultivate mindfulness to benefit

to cultivate mindfulness to benefit

to cultivate mindfulness to benefit ourselves and our families a place of

ourselves and our families a place of

ourselves and our families a place of peace

peace

peace a place to find guidance and strength a

a place to find guidance and strength a

a place to find guidance and strength a place to find a new path in life in

place to find a new path in life in

place to find a new path in life in their lives

their lives

their lives these women are navigating a different

these women are navigating a different

these women are navigating a different kind of path awaiting sentences changing

kind of path awaiting sentences changing

kind of path awaiting sentences changing court dates justice delayed they’re in a

court dates justice delayed they’re in a

court dates justice delayed they’re in a kind of maze full of dead ends often

kind of maze full of dead ends often

kind of maze full of dead ends often with no end in sight the labyrinth

with no end in sight the labyrinth

with no end in sight the labyrinth doesn’t have any dead ends instead their

doesn’t have any dead ends instead their

doesn’t have any dead ends instead their twists and turns and that gives us a

twists and turns and that gives us a

twists and turns and that gives us a chance to reflect on our lives many of

chance to reflect on our lives many of

chance to reflect on our lives many of the women are dealing with addiction

the women are dealing with addiction

the women are dealing with addiction problems one bad night

problems one bad night

problems one bad night Sabrina said it just took one bad night

Sabrina said it just took one bad night

Sabrina said it just took one bad night for me to end up back here in jail

for me to end up back here in jail

for me to end up back here in jail Carmen says

Carmen says

Carmen says I relapse after the death of my sister

leaving the center of the labyrinth we

leaving the center of the labyrinth we retrace our steps and then the ending

retrace our steps and then the ending

retrace our steps and then the ending becomes a kind of new beginning

becomes a kind of new beginning

becomes a kind of new beginning after we watch the symbolic journey

after we watch the symbolic journey

after we watch the symbolic journey together

together

together Maria reflected leaving the labyrinth I

Maria reflected leaving the labyrinth I

Maria reflected leaving the labyrinth I let go of everything in my shoulders and

let go of everything in my shoulders and

let go of everything in my shoulders and I forgave myself when I get to the end I

I forgave myself when I get to the end I

I forgave myself when I get to the end I feel like there’s a door and when I open

feel like there’s a door and when I open

feel like there’s a door and when I open it I’m not here anymore

it I’m not here anymore

it I’m not here anymore I’m back at home hugging my mom and

I’m back at home hugging my mom and

I’m back at home hugging my mom and telling her I’m sorry and after

telling her I’m sorry and after

telling her I’m sorry and after everything I’m free and I’ve been given

everything I’m free and I’ve been given

everything I’m free and I’ve been given a second chance we know that most women

a second chance we know that most women

a second chance we know that most women behind bars now will be returning home

behind bars now will be returning home

behind bars now will be returning home and sadly in many cases worse off for it

and sadly in many cases worse off for it

and sadly in many cases worse off for it we see that on the societal level

we see that on the societal level

we see that on the societal level prisons don’t actually reduce crime

prisons don’t actually reduce crime

prisons don’t actually reduce crime because they’re not designed to solve

because they’re not designed to solve

because they’re not designed to solve the real problems that send people there

the real problems that send people there

the real problems that send people there but instead tend to disguise them and

but instead tend to disguise them and

but instead tend to disguise them and perpetuate them our local jail serves as

perpetuate them our local jail serves as

perpetuate them our local jail serves as a catch-all for people that fall through

a catch-all for people that fall through

a catch-all for people that fall through the cracks and other systems because of

the cracks and other systems because of

the cracks and other systems because of homelessness and poverty mental illness

homelessness and poverty mental illness

homelessness and poverty mental illness and addiction we’re aware that mass

and addiction we’re aware that mass

and addiction we’re aware that mass incarceration is becoming epidemic in

incarceration is becoming epidemic in

incarceration is becoming epidemic in the United States and the statistics are

the United States and the statistics are

the United States and the statistics are staggering particularly for women from

staggering particularly for women from

staggering particularly for women from 1980 to 2014 the increase in

1980 to 2014 the increase in

1980 to 2014 the increase in incarceration rate for women is 700

incarceration rate for women is 700

incarceration rate for women is 700 percent this disproportionately affects

percent this disproportionately affects

percent this disproportionately affects poor communities as we know and it

poor communities as we know and it

poor communities as we know and it overwhelmingly targets people of color

overwhelmingly targets people of color

overwhelmingly targets people of color as the movements for black lives in need

as the movements for black lives in need

as the movements for black lives in need of lives call us to understand and it

of lives call us to understand and it

of lives call us to understand and it harms all of us most of the women are

harms all of us most of the women are

harms all of us most of the women are not there for violent crimes in fact 85

not there for violent crimes in fact 85

not there for violent crimes in fact 85 to 90% of the women there experienced

to 90% of the women there experienced

to 90% of the women there experienced violence prior to incarceration from

violence prior to incarceration from

violence prior to incarceration from child abuse rape domestic violence and

child abuse rape domestic violence and

child abuse rape domestic violence and some of them that are

some of them that are

some of them that are they’re for violent crimes it’s because

they’re for violent crimes it’s because

they’re for violent crimes it’s because they were in a very difficult abusive

they were in a very difficult abusive

they were in a very difficult abusive relationship

relationship

relationship I met Deirdre when we were doing a

I met Deirdre when we were doing a

I met Deirdre when we were doing a series of dance classes over a week in a

series of dance classes over a week in a

series of dance classes over a week in a prison on the theme of forgiveness she

prison on the theme of forgiveness she

prison on the theme of forgiveness she was doing rocking gestures and cradling

was doing rocking gestures and cradling

was doing rocking gestures and cradling gestures and I would notice at the door

gestures and I would notice at the door

gestures and I would notice at the door teachers standing there with tears in

teachers standing there with tears in

teachers standing there with tears in their eyes at the end of the week one of

their eyes at the end of the week one of

their eyes at the end of the week one of the teachers shared with me her story

the teachers shared with me her story

the teachers shared with me her story Deirdre had been in a very difficult

Deirdre had been in a very difficult

Deirdre had been in a very difficult domestic violence relationship she

domestic violence relationship she

domestic violence relationship she didn’t know what to do she overdosed

didn’t know what to do she overdosed

didn’t know what to do she overdosed herself her infant and the dog the

herself her infant and the dog the

herself her infant and the dog the infant and dog died and now Deirdre was

infant and dog died and now Deirdre was

infant and dog died and now Deirdre was serving time

serving time

serving time she couldn’t express it about her crime

she couldn’t express it about her crime

she couldn’t express it about her crime yet and dance became a place where she

yet and dance became a place where she

yet and dance became a place where she could begin to share her emotions

could begin to share her emotions

could begin to share her emotions barbara was five when she was abused by

barbara was five when she was abused by

barbara was five when she was abused by her grandfather later in life she

her grandfather later in life she

her grandfather later in life she endured three abusive marriages but when

endured three abusive marriages but when

endured three abusive marriages but when she discovered that her third husband

she discovered that her third husband

she discovered that her third husband had abused her granddaughter she snapped

had abused her granddaughter she snapped

had abused her granddaughter she snapped and she shot and killed him with a gun

and she shot and killed him with a gun

and she shot and killed him with a gun that he had given her as a Christmas

that he had given her as a Christmas

that he had given her as a Christmas present Deirdre and Barbara’s stories

present Deirdre and Barbara’s stories

present Deirdre and Barbara’s stories really haunted me no woman should have

really haunted me no woman should have

really haunted me no woman should have to go from the prison of a relationship

to go from the prison of a relationship

to go from the prison of a relationship to a prison behind barbed wires and

to a prison behind barbed wires and

to a prison behind barbed wires and concrete blocks so about six years ago

concrete blocks so about six years ago

concrete blocks so about six years ago several women and I filmed formed a

several women and I filmed formed a

several women and I filmed formed a nonprofit called healing voices personal

nonprofit called healing voices personal

nonprofit called healing voices personal stories we make films about domestic

stories we make films about domestic

stories we make films about domestic violence survivors who successfully move

violence survivors who successfully move

violence survivors who successfully move from a relationship and rebuild their

from a relationship and rebuild their

from a relationship and rebuild their lives now Deborah and Barbara were

lives now Deborah and Barbara were

lives now Deborah and Barbara were really really lucky because they were at

really really lucky because they were at

really really lucky because they were at a facility that had excellent

a facility that had excellent

a facility that had excellent programming they’re now back in the

programming they’re now back in the

programming they’re now back in the community and those programs made it

community and those programs made it

community and those programs made it possible for them to re-enter their

possible for them to re-enter their

possible for them to re-enter their community although the pain will always

community although the pain will always

community although the pain will always stay with them although there’s some

stay with them although there’s some

stay with them although there’s some wonderful models for programs happening

wonderful models for programs happening

wonderful models for programs happening here and around the

here and around the

here and around the tree we’ve been shocked to see how few

tree we’ve been shocked to see how few

tree we’ve been shocked to see how few services and programs there are to

services and programs there are to

services and programs there are to support people while they’re

support people while they’re

support people while they’re incarcerated and as they try to

incarcerated and as they try to

incarcerated and as they try to transition back out there’s room for all

transition back out there’s room for all

transition back out there’s room for all of us to get involved at every level of

of us to get involved at every level of

of us to get involved at every level of the system to dismantle the harm and

the system to dismantle the harm and

the system to dismantle the harm and begin the work of rehumanize ‘never e1

begin the work of rehumanize ‘never e1

begin the work of rehumanize ‘never e1 volunteering in your local prison or

volunteering in your local prison or

volunteering in your local prison or local jail is something you can do for

local jail is something you can do for

local jail is something you can do for when you help on the inside you’re also

when you help on the inside you’re also

when you help on the inside you’re also enriching the outside for hour hour and

enriching the outside for hour hour and

enriching the outside for hour hour and a half we’ve been working in a circle it

a half we’ve been working in a circle it

a half we’ve been working in a circle it reminds us of the common bonds between

reminds us of the common bonds between

reminds us of the common bonds between all of us for we are all teachers

all of us for we are all teachers

all of us for we are all teachers learning from each other of all the

learning from each other of all the

learning from each other of all the activities that we facilitate in the

activities that we facilitate in the

activities that we facilitate in the setting we have found self acceptance

setting we have found self acceptance

setting we have found self acceptance meditation to be the most impactful we

meditation to be the most impactful we

meditation to be the most impactful we believe that as we all allow ourselves

believe that as we all allow ourselves

believe that as we all allow ourselves to be more fully human we will no longer

to be more fully human we will no longer

to be more fully human we will no longer stand for this norm of throwing people

stand for this norm of throwing people

stand for this norm of throwing people away in the practice of loving-kindness

away in the practice of loving-kindness

away in the practice of loving-kindness we begin with ourselves accepting

we begin with ourselves accepting

we begin with ourselves accepting ourselves and offering ourselves

ourselves and offering ourselves

ourselves and offering ourselves kindness and then we try to expand our

kindness and then we try to expand our

kindness and then we try to expand our hearts and minds through training until

hearts and minds through training until

hearts and minds through training until we can include everyone please try out

we can include everyone please try out

we can include everyone please try out with us now just bring one hand to your

with us now just bring one hand to your

with us now just bring one hand to your heart to touch in with your own

heart to touch in with your own

heart to touch in with your own tenderness and innate goodness that does

tenderness and innate goodness that does

tenderness and innate goodness that does not need to be earned and silently say

not need to be earned and silently say

not need to be earned and silently say to yourself I’m okay there’s nothing

to yourself I’m okay there’s nothing

to yourself I’m okay there’s nothing wrong with me just noticing how it feels

wrong with me just noticing how it feels

wrong with me just noticing how it feels to say that and letting those words sink

to say that and letting those words sink

to say that and letting those words sink in whatever I feel is okay I am worthy

in whatever I feel is okay I am worthy

in whatever I feel is okay I am worthy of love and respect and may each of us

of love and respect and may each of us

of love and respect and may each of us be safe free from suffering free from

be safe free from suffering free from

be safe free from suffering free from danger may all of us know peace and the

danger may all of us know peace and the

danger may all of us know peace and the joy true freedom

joy true freedom

joy true freedom you

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