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good morning everyone thank you so very

good morning everyone thank you so very much for gathering here today it’s a

much for gathering here today it’s a

much for gathering here today it’s a huge honor to be up in front of you

huge honor to be up in front of you

huge honor to be up in front of you and and speaking to you don’t worry

and and speaking to you don’t worry

and and speaking to you don’t worry about tweeting or facebooking anything

about tweeting or facebooking anything

about tweeting or facebooking anything that’s comfort confidential because I am

that’s comfort confidential because I am

that’s comfort confidential because I am NOT an expert on anything except lemons

NOT an expert on anything except lemons

NOT an expert on anything except lemons and bluefish so I have nothing that’s

and bluefish so I have nothing that’s

and bluefish so I have nothing that’s unpublished and that is actually how I

unpublished and that is actually how I

unpublished and that is actually how I want to start off is that I I’m not an

want to start off is that I I’m not an

want to start off is that I I’m not an expert I’m not I’m a little different

expert I’m not I’m a little different

expert I’m not I’m a little different from a lot of my colleagues here in

from a lot of my colleagues here in

from a lot of my colleagues here in National Geographic I’m not a PhD I’m

National Geographic I’m not a PhD I’m

National Geographic I’m not a PhD I’m not a so focused on it on one discipline

not a so focused on it on one discipline

not a so focused on it on one discipline but I am a witness to a drama that

but I am a witness to a drama that

but I am a witness to a drama that unfolds around each and every one of us

unfolds around each and every one of us

unfolds around each and every one of us every day and that’s the Hat with which

every day and that’s the Hat with which

every day and that’s the Hat with which I want you to listen to my presentation

I want you to listen to my presentation

I want you to listen to my presentation if you would which is as a witness the

if you would which is as a witness the

if you would which is as a witness the world of food is dramatic and it really

world of food is dramatic and it really

world of food is dramatic and it really goes to explore everything about how we

goes to explore everything about how we

goes to explore everything about how we relate to our world this quote here is

relate to our world this quote here is

relate to our world this quote here is one of my very favorite spoken by a

one of my very favorite spoken by a

one of my very favorite spoken by a fisherman and the classic book blues by

fisherman and the classic book blues by

fisherman and the classic book blues by John Hersey in our quest for food we

John Hersey in our quest for food we

John Hersey in our quest for food we begin to find our place in the systems

begin to find our place in the systems

begin to find our place in the systems of this world and I’ve always absolutely

of this world and I’ve always absolutely

of this world and I’ve always absolutely adored this comment because it so

adored this comment because it so

adored this comment because it so accurately describes that we are not

accurately describes that we are not

accurately describes that we are not sovereign over our resources but rather

sovereign over our resources but rather

sovereign over our resources but rather that we are because of them and that

that we are because of them and that

that we are because of them and that through our resources we begin to

through our resources we begin to

through our resources we begin to discover our place within this natural

discover our place within this natural

discover our place within this natural systems I’ve had a very intimate and

systems I’ve had a very intimate and

systems I’ve had a very intimate and long relationship with food from a very

long relationship with food from a very

long relationship with food from a very early age family dinner in my house was

early age family dinner in my house was

early age family dinner in my house was a very important time it was a place to

a very important time it was a place to

a very important time it was a place to share to give to receive in fact it was

share to give to receive in fact it was

share to give to receive in fact it was where my family became a family and I

where my family became a family and I

where my family became a family and I was very lucky in that I was able to

was very lucky in that I was able to

was very lucky in that I was able to really participate in the production of

really participate in the production of

really participate in the production of these meals both my parents were great

these meals both my parents were great

these meals both my parents were great cooks from scratch and they’re also very

cooks from scratch and they’re also very

cooks from scratch and they’re also very intrepid cooks we were born and raised

intrepid cooks we were born and raised

intrepid cooks we were born and raised right here in Mount Pleasant in DC in a

right here in Mount Pleasant in DC in a

right here in Mount Pleasant in DC in a very multi-ethnic neighborhood shopping

very multi-ethnic neighborhood shopping

very multi-ethnic neighborhood shopping at Korean Eritrean Ethiopian Latino

at Korean Eritrean Ethiopian Latino

at Korean Eritrean Ethiopian Latino market shopping daily in a very

market shopping daily in a very

market shopping daily in a very unamerican sense and really coming home

unamerican sense and really coming home

unamerican sense and really coming home and enjoying the bounty of whatever we

and enjoying the bounty of whatever we

and enjoying the bounty of whatever we found at the market and it was

found at the market and it was

found at the market and it was incredible and it was such an experience

incredible and it was such an experience

incredible and it was such an experience my father I remember

my father I remember

my father I remember him making tacos taco night from scratch

him making tacos taco night from scratch

him making tacos taco night from scratch and he would moisten the masa harina

and he would moisten the masa harina

and he would moisten the masa harina dough and these two little toe head boys

dough and these two little toe head boys

dough and these two little toe head boys would gently press the dough in the in

would gently press the dough in the in

would gently press the dough in the in the you know to form the tortilla and

the you know to form the tortilla and

the you know to form the tortilla and you can imagine us you know rapturously

you can imagine us you know rapturously

you can imagine us you know rapturously and wondered by this process that to

and wondered by this process that to

and wondered by this process that to everyone around us in the neighborhoods

everyone around us in the neighborhoods

everyone around us in the neighborhoods like come on

like come on

like come on this is eons of our history but to us it

this is eons of our history but to us it

this is eons of our history but to us it was a window an opportunity to explore

was a window an opportunity to explore

was a window an opportunity to explore how we connected to the people right

how we connected to the people right

how we connected to the people right next to us who we played football with

next to us who we played football with

next to us who we played football with in the street but yet we didn’t

in the street but yet we didn’t

in the street but yet we didn’t understand we didn’t share their

understand we didn’t share their

understand we didn’t share their cultures

cultures

cultures he was this fluency with food that

he was this fluency with food that

he was this fluency with food that allowed me to step out of the

allowed me to step out of the

allowed me to step out of the traditional path of Education when in

traditional path of Education when in

traditional path of Education when in college I realized very quickly that the

college I realized very quickly that the

college I realized very quickly that the traditional path wasn’t for me and it

traditional path wasn’t for me and it

traditional path wasn’t for me and it was the fluency with food that allowed

was the fluency with food that allowed

was the fluency with food that allowed me to find structure and in guidance in

me to find structure and in guidance in

me to find structure and in guidance in my life in restaurants and restaurants

my life in restaurants and restaurants

my life in restaurants and restaurants really became my laboratory I mean I was

really became my laboratory I mean I was

really became my laboratory I mean I was first cultivating my ego I was going to

first cultivating my ego I was going to

first cultivating my ego I was going to be the best chef in the world it didn’t

be the best chef in the world it didn’t

be the best chef in the world it didn’t work out so well it worked out pretty

work out so well it worked out pretty

work out so well it worked out pretty well but what I ended up realizing is

well but what I ended up realizing is

well but what I ended up realizing is what I really enjoyed about food was

what I really enjoyed about food was

what I really enjoyed about food was cultivating the relationships through it

cultivating the relationships through it

cultivating the relationships through it and then cultivating really a deep

and then cultivating really a deep

and then cultivating really a deep understanding of what those

understanding of what those

understanding of what those relationships really mean to us in our

relationships really mean to us in our

relationships really mean to us in our world in our communities really as

world in our communities really as

world in our communities really as individuals and of how we connect to a

individuals and of how we connect to a

individuals and of how we connect to a myriad number of human values through

myriad number of human values through

myriad number of human values through them I became very interested in

them I became very interested in

them I became very interested in sustainable seafood Sylvia Earle hates

sustainable seafood Sylvia Earle hates

sustainable seafood Sylvia Earle hates it when I show this but I’m in the dead

it when I show this but I’m in the dead

it when I show this but I’m in the dead fish business which is a little bit

fish business which is a little bit

fish business which is a little bit different for a conservationist and I’ve

different for a conservationist and I’ve

different for a conservationist and I’ve been in the business for a long time

been in the business for a long time

been in the business for a long time I still get this excited over bluefish

I still get this excited over bluefish

I still get this excited over bluefish and nearly everything this is a poor

and nearly everything this is a poor

and nearly everything this is a poor little sculpin which I believe off the

little sculpin which I believe off the

little sculpin which I believe off the coast of Cape Cod was my first first

coast of Cape Cod was my first first

coast of Cape Cod was my first first victim but as a chef I began to realize

victim but as a chef I began to realize

victim but as a chef I began to realize that some of my favorite species were

that some of my favorite species were

that some of my favorite species were disappearing the crabs that I so

disappearing the crabs that I so

disappearing the crabs that I so lovingly caught off the docks of the

lovingly caught off the docks of the

lovingly caught off the docks of the Patuxent River when I was a child the

Patuxent River when I was a child the

Patuxent River when I was a child the blue fish the striped bass that I would

blue fish the striped bass that I would

blue fish the striped bass that I would pull out as a child easily they were

pull out as a child easily they were

pull out as a child easily they were becoming scarce they were becoming

becoming scarce they were becoming

becoming scarce they were becoming altogether unavailable they were

altogether unavailable they were

altogether unavailable they were becoming exorbitantly expensive

becoming exorbitantly expensive

becoming exorbitantly expensive prohibitively expensive and I realized

prohibitively expensive and I realized

prohibitively expensive and I realized that it’s really an opportunity and a

that it’s really an opportunity and a

that it’s really an opportunity and a burden that chefs have in that the cook

burden that chefs have in that the cook

burden that chefs have in that the cook has become the guiding hand of natural

has become the guiding hand of natural

has become the guiding hand of natural election in our world and it’s the chefs

election in our world and it’s the chefs

election in our world and it’s the chefs who have wiped out bluefin who have

who have wiped out bluefin who have

who have wiped out bluefin who have popularized shark fin soup who have

popularized shark fin soup who have

popularized shark fin soup who have taken a little-known species known as

taken a little-known species known as

taken a little-known species known as slime head and turned it into a delicacy

slime head and turned it into a delicacy

slime head and turned it into a delicacy called orange roughy this is our fault

called orange roughy this is our fault

called orange roughy this is our fault this is our opportunity but it’s also if

this is our opportunity but it’s also if

this is our opportunity but it’s also if we can destroy we have the opportunity

we can destroy we have the opportunity

we can destroy we have the opportunity to begin to guide restoration through

to begin to guide restoration through

to begin to guide restoration through consumption it’s this belief that really

consumption it’s this belief that really

consumption it’s this belief that really evolved my passions outside of what a

evolved my passions outside of what a

evolved my passions outside of what a restaurant kitchen alone could provide

restaurant kitchen alone could provide

restaurant kitchen alone could provide for me and to really see food is a lens

for me and to really see food is a lens

for me and to really see food is a lens of exploration in a broader sense of how

of exploration in a broader sense of how

of exploration in a broader sense of how we relate to each other our communities

we relate to each other our communities

we relate to each other our communities our natural world through the resources

our natural world through the resources

our natural world through the resources that we consume on a daily basis and

that we consume on a daily basis and

that we consume on a daily basis and this has led me here it’s a National

this has led me here it’s a National

this has led me here it’s a National Geographic so my great friends dr. Enric

Geographic so my great friends dr. Enric

Geographic so my great friends dr. Enric Sala John Fahey the whole team alex mo

Sala John Fahey the whole team alex mo

Sala John Fahey the whole team alex mo and miguel jorge have been so generous

and miguel jorge have been so generous

and miguel jorge have been so generous and and welcoming in their hospitality

and and welcoming in their hospitality

and and welcoming in their hospitality and bringing me into the fold and i met

and bringing me into the fold and i met

and bringing me into the fold and i met so many incredible people here

so many incredible people here

so many incredible people here utterly incredible talents and some of

utterly incredible talents and some of

utterly incredible talents and some of my very favorites are the photographers

my very favorites are the photographers

my very favorites are the photographers you know I mean just incredible brave

you know I mean just incredible brave

you know I mean just incredible brave men and women sent out into the world to

men and women sent out into the world to

men and women sent out into the world to create a relationship to take a snapshot

create a relationship to take a snapshot

create a relationship to take a snapshot then of that relationship as a souvenir

then of that relationship as a souvenir

then of that relationship as a souvenir to bring back to us to publish in the

to bring back to us to publish in the

to bring back to us to publish in the vaunted pages of the yellow magazine I

vaunted pages of the yellow magazine I

vaunted pages of the yellow magazine I mean how many of us had our lives

mean how many of us had our lives

mean how many of us had our lives changed by the look in one girl’s eyes

changed by the look in one girl’s eyes

changed by the look in one girl’s eyes in Afghanistan or had our whole

in Afghanistan or had our whole

in Afghanistan or had our whole understanding of entire subject

understanding of entire subject

understanding of entire subject radically altered by the visions that

radically altered by the visions that

radically altered by the visions that Brian scary or the charisma of Matias

Brian scary or the charisma of Matias

Brian scary or the charisma of Matias you know I mean it’s incredible but I’ve

you know I mean it’s incredible but I’ve

you know I mean it’s incredible but I’ve realized that just as the photographer’s

realized that just as the photographer’s

realized that just as the photographer’s take snapshots of it banking through the

take snapshots of it banking through the

take snapshots of it banking through the hills of glacial Alaska of the Southern

hills of glacial Alaska of the Southern

hills of glacial Alaska of the Southern Oceans you know down in in parts of the

Oceans you know down in in parts of the

Oceans you know down in in parts of the world where most of us will never go of

world where most of us will never go of

world where most of us will never go of the spice plantations of Madagascar I

the spice plantations of Madagascar I

the spice plantations of Madagascar I mean these are great relationships that

mean these are great relationships that

mean these are great relationships that you and I are most likely to never have

you and I are most likely to never have

you and I are most likely to never have but how many of us have eaten Chilean

but how many of us have eaten Chilean

but how many of us have eaten Chilean sea bass or sprinkle black pepper on a

sea bass or sprinkle black pepper on a

sea bass or sprinkle black pepper on a steak or had a piece of Alaskan salmon

steak or had a piece of Alaskan salmon

steak or had a piece of Alaskan salmon while National Geographic sends an

while National Geographic sends an

while National Geographic sends an expert eye an exploration of our world

expert eye an exploration of our world

expert eye an exploration of our world so too do we but we send our Forks it is

so too do we but we send our Forks it is

so too do we but we send our Forks it is how we relate to the world around us and

how we relate to the world around us and

how we relate to the world around us and it’s an opportunity that we have in this

it’s an opportunity that we have in this

it’s an opportunity that we have in this global ecosystem global food system to

global ecosystem global food system to

global ecosystem global food system to really begin to connect to the human

really begin to connect to the human

really begin to connect to the human values

values

values that really govern it well I believe

that really govern it well I believe

that really govern it well I believe that there is still plenty to explore

that there is still plenty to explore

that there is still plenty to explore about our world plenty new knowledge to

about our world plenty new knowledge to

about our world plenty new knowledge to gather I believe really the next great

gather I believe really the next great

gather I believe really the next great phase of discovery is not finding new

phase of discovery is not finding new

phase of discovery is not finding new information but making sense of the

information but making sense of the

information but making sense of the information that we already have to

information that we already have to

information that we already have to define our place in the systems of the

define our place in the systems of the

define our place in the systems of the world through the resources we take from

world through the resources we take from

world through the resources we take from it my great friend and doctor and mentor

it my great friend and doctor and mentor

it my great friend and doctor and mentor dr. Karl Safina has a wonderful quote

dr. Karl Safina has a wonderful quote

dr. Karl Safina has a wonderful quote which I’m gonna butcher here but he said

which I’m gonna butcher here but he said

which I’m gonna butcher here but he said we went from a hunter-gatherer society

we went from a hunter-gatherer society

we went from a hunter-gatherer society to an agrarian culture from agrarian we

to an agrarian culture from agrarian we

to an agrarian culture from agrarian we moved to a civilized society the next

moved to a civilized society the next

moved to a civilized society the next great leap in our evolution will be to

great leap in our evolution will be to

great leap in our evolution will be to become humanized and I don’t know of

become humanized and I don’t know of

become humanized and I don’t know of anything that is more human than the

anything that is more human than the

anything that is more human than the ritual of dinner it is one of the traits

ritual of dinner it is one of the traits

ritual of dinner it is one of the traits that truly makes us as human beings

that truly makes us as human beings

that truly makes us as human beings unique as animals on this planet and

unique as animals on this planet and

unique as animals on this planet and it’s one of the things that really

it’s one of the things that really

it’s one of the things that really reminds us of really of what what it is

reminds us of really of what what it is

reminds us of really of what what it is of the beauty that it is to be human of

of the beauty that it is to be human of

of the beauty that it is to be human of the opportunity to commune I want to

the opportunity to commune I want to

the opportunity to commune I want to tell a few stories of my travels around

tell a few stories of my travels around

tell a few stories of my travels around the world that really represents to me

the world that really represents to me

the world that really represents to me it’s really kind of the overarching

it’s really kind of the overarching

it’s really kind of the overarching narrative of my work which is a lot of

narrative of my work which is a lot of

narrative of my work which is a lot of environmentalism focuses on the Garrett

environmentalism focuses on the Garrett

environmentalism focuses on the Garrett Hardin idea of the tragedy of the

Hardin idea of the tragedy of the

Hardin idea of the tragedy of the Commons of measuring the impact that we

Commons of measuring the impact that we

Commons of measuring the impact that we have had on ecosystems and a lot of the

have had on ecosystems and a lot of the

have had on ecosystems and a lot of the work that I do as I’ve been explaining

work that I do as I’ve been explaining

work that I do as I’ve been explaining it’s sort of more about the communion of

it’s sort of more about the communion of

it’s sort of more about the communion of the Commons what it is that brings us

the Commons what it is that brings us

the Commons what it is that brings us together what it is about our resources

together what it is about our resources

together what it is about our resources that actually unite us one of my

that actually unite us one of my

that actually unite us one of my favorite women in the entire world dr.

favorite women in the entire world dr.

favorite women in the entire world dr. Patricio Maalouf down in Peru

Patricio Maalouf down in Peru

Patricio Maalouf down in Peru she’s a preeminent marine biologist an

she’s a preeminent marine biologist an

she’s a preeminent marine biologist an incredible woman and just a brilliant

incredible woman and just a brilliant

incredible woman and just a brilliant thinker and Peru is home to the world’s

thinker and Peru is home to the world’s

thinker and Peru is home to the world’s largest single species fishery the

largest single species fishery the

largest single species fishery the Peruvian ant Ravenna 10 million metric

Peruvian ant Ravenna 10 million metric

Peruvian ant Ravenna 10 million metric tons per year are taken out of the water

tons per year are taken out of the water

tons per year are taken out of the water it’s a huge number of fish 97% of those

it’s a huge number of fish 97% of those

it’s a huge number of fish 97% of those fish get ground up and into what’s

fish get ground up and into what’s

fish get ground up and into what’s called a reduction fishery there in the

called a reduction fishery there in the

called a reduction fishery there in the adhesive that binds curtains and carpets

adhesive that binds curtains and carpets

adhesive that binds curtains and carpets they’re in the polyurethane on the

they’re in the polyurethane on the

they’re in the polyurethane on the floors they’re in the lipstick ladies

floors they’re in the lipstick ladies

floors they’re in the lipstick ladies that you’re wearing the moisturizer on

that you’re wearing the moisturizer on

that you’re wearing the moisturizer on your face they get fed to chickens to

your face they get fed to chickens to

your face they get fed to chickens to pigs to salmon in aquaculture farms

pigs to salmon in aquaculture farms

pigs to salmon in aquaculture farms 97% of these go into an industrial use

97% of these go into an industrial use

97% of these go into an industrial use 3% for human use Peru is wracked with

3% for human use Peru is wracked with

3% for human use Peru is wracked with poverty it’s racked with hunger and they

poverty it’s racked with hunger and they

poverty it’s racked with hunger and they have a cultural taboo against eating

have a cultural taboo against eating

have a cultural taboo against eating anchovies strange they have more ancho’s

anchovies strange they have more ancho’s

anchovies strange they have more ancho’s that they need to feed the entire nation

that they need to feed the entire nation

that they need to feed the entire nation ten times over and the work that

ten times over and the work that

ten times over and the work that Patricia is doing is beginning to create

Patricia is doing is beginning to create

Patricia is doing is beginning to create markets with great chefs such as gastĂłn

markets with great chefs such as gastĂłn

markets with great chefs such as gastĂłn Acurio and really bringing the idea of

Acurio and really bringing the idea of

Acurio and really bringing the idea of anchovies not as a reduction fishery but

anchovies not as a reduction fishery but

anchovies not as a reduction fishery but really is something to celebrate that’s

really is something to celebrate that’s

really is something to celebrate that’s something to put forth you know put

something to put forth you know put

something to put forth you know put forth right on the plates and really

forth right on the plates and really

forth right on the plates and really pronounced as it as a great cultural and

pronounced as it as a great cultural and

pronounced as it as a great cultural and natural resource for the Peruvian people

natural resource for the Peruvian people

natural resource for the Peruvian people and then to export it around the world

and then to export it around the world

and then to export it around the world and it’s a great story of just making

and it’s a great story of just making

and it’s a great story of just making better use of an existing resource which

better use of an existing resource which

better use of an existing resource which is a lot of what the sustainability

is a lot of what the sustainability

is a lot of what the sustainability dialogue is really all about and then

dialogue is really all about and then

dialogue is really all about and then another story that I love a few months

another story that I love a few months

another story that I love a few months ago my wife and I were traveling in

ago my wife and I were traveling in

ago my wife and I were traveling in Switzerland and we’re up in the Alps in

Switzerland and we’re up in the Alps in

Switzerland and we’re up in the Alps in this tiny little village Hamlet called

this tiny little village Hamlet called

this tiny little village Hamlet called fruit Egon and up here just outside of

fruit Egon and up here just outside of

fruit Egon and up here just outside of Zurich about an hour out a beautiful you

Zurich about an hour out a beautiful you

Zurich about an hour out a beautiful you know Hollywood setting of the Alps this

know Hollywood setting of the Alps this

know Hollywood setting of the Alps this backdrop is absolutely incredible and

backdrop is absolutely incredible and

backdrop is absolutely incredible and they had board a tunnel through one of

they had board a tunnel through one of

they had board a tunnel through one of these mountains to connect two Canton’s

these mountains to connect two Canton’s

these mountains to connect two Canton’s and to promote trade and tourism in

and to promote trade and tourism in

and to promote trade and tourism in industry and basically just to connect

industry and basically just to connect

industry and basically just to connect more of Switzerland to itself and while

more of Switzerland to itself and while

more of Switzerland to itself and while he did this they tapped into a

he did this they tapped into a

he did this they tapped into a geothermally heated spring and out of

geothermally heated spring and out of

geothermally heated spring and out of either side of the tunnel came a hundred

either side of the tunnel came a hundred

either side of the tunnel came a hundred litres per second of 68 degree water now

litres per second of 68 degree water now

litres per second of 68 degree water now on one side of the tunnel this was

on one side of the tunnel this was

on one side of the tunnel this was really seen as a liability I mean this

really seen as a liability I mean this

really seen as a liability I mean this environment is not 68 degrees the

environment is not 68 degrees the

environment is not 68 degrees the water’s hair is is more closer to 40 so

water’s hair is is more closer to 40 so

water’s hair is is more closer to 40 so just dumping sixty eight degree water

just dumping sixty eight degree water

just dumping sixty eight degree water into the lakes into the streams would

into the lakes into the streams would

into the lakes into the streams would kill all the flora and the fauna and

kill all the flora and the fauna and

kill all the flora and the fauna and ruin the whole ecosystem so in a you

ruin the whole ecosystem so in a you

ruin the whole ecosystem so in a you know stroke of good thinking they

know stroke of good thinking they

know stroke of good thinking they realized oh my we can’t do this so we’re

realized oh my we can’t do this so we’re

realized oh my we can’t do this so we’re gonna build an energy intensive plants

gonna build an energy intensive plants

gonna build an energy intensive plants to remove the energy from the from

to remove the energy from the from

to remove the energy from the from remove the heat from the water and pass

remove the heat from the water and pass

remove the heat from the water and pass it down into the streams on the other

it down into the streams on the other

it down into the streams on the other side there’s this Romanian engineer who

side there’s this Romanian engineer who

side there’s this Romanian engineer who had this idea he was part of this

had this idea he was part of this

had this idea he was part of this project he said you know what you know

project he said you know what you know

project he said you know what you know what this village really needs

what this village really needs

what this village really needs I got 68 degree water we need bananas

I got 68 degree water we need bananas

I got 68 degree water we need bananas you know but I think of Switzerland I

you know but I think of Switzerland I

you know but I think of Switzerland I think of cows and bananas

think of cows and bananas

think of cows and bananas so he built this greenhouse here and

so he built this greenhouse here and

so he built this greenhouse here and it’s absolutely incredible and in it

it’s absolutely incredible and in it

it’s absolutely incredible and in it he’s growing these bananas and he’s got

he’s growing these bananas and he’s got

he’s growing these bananas and he’s got spices he’s got cinnamon and nutmeg

spices he’s got cinnamon and nutmeg

spices he’s got cinnamon and nutmeg cloves and cardamom I mean you walk in

cloves and cardamom I mean you walk in

cloves and cardamom I mean you walk in there and it’s just I mean it’s

there and it’s just I mean it’s

there and it’s just I mean it’s incredible it’s like walking into an

incredible it’s like walking into an

incredible it’s like walking into an Eastern Market and you just your senses

Eastern Market and you just your senses

Eastern Market and you just your senses are assaulted and it’s so cool coming

are assaulted and it’s so cool coming

are assaulted and it’s so cool coming out of that you know crisp clean Alpine

out of that you know crisp clean Alpine

out of that you know crisp clean Alpine air into this warm dank dense sultry

air into this warm dank dense sultry

air into this warm dank dense sultry sexy smelling spicy environment oh I

sexy smelling spicy environment oh I

sexy smelling spicy environment oh I mean it’s really cool you’re just in a

mean it’s really cool you’re just in a

mean it’s really cool you’re just in a totally different world and then he said

totally different world and then he said

totally different world and then he said I’ve still got all this hot water what

I’ve still got all this hot water what

I’ve still got all this hot water what I’m gonna do with it I know you know we

I’m gonna do with it I know you know we

I’m gonna do with it I know you know we cows caviar and bananas that’s it

cows caviar and bananas that’s it

cows caviar and bananas that’s it caviar that’s what I had forgotten

60,000 head of sturgeon 35 pounds apiece

60,000 head of sturgeon 35 pounds apiece he’s gonna be harvesting his first

he’s gonna be harvesting his first

he’s gonna be harvesting his first harvest of caviar this year

harvest of caviar this year

harvest of caviar this year Swiss caviar 35 pounds apiece times

Swiss caviar 35 pounds apiece times

Swiss caviar 35 pounds apiece times 60,000 head that’s a lot of meat and

60,000 head that’s a lot of meat and

60,000 head that’s a lot of meat and then he went on to say you know what

then he went on to say you know what

then he went on to say you know what else we need we need a restaurant

else we need we need a restaurant

else we need we need a restaurant somewhere to serve these bananas cows

somewhere to serve these bananas cows

somewhere to serve these bananas cows and caviar not all together on the same

and caviar not all together on the same

and caviar not all together on the same plate so we opened two restaurants he’s

plate so we opened two restaurants he’s

plate so we opened two restaurants he’s got this the Torah sorry and then he’s

got this the Torah sorry and then he’s

got this the Torah sorry and then he’s got another Lourdes cafe and then he’s

got another Lourdes cafe and then he’s

got another Lourdes cafe and then he’s got this other thing where he’s got a

got this other thing where he’s got a

got this other thing where he’s got a museum there that shows all about

museum there that shows all about

museum there that shows all about geothermal heating what it is to really

geothermal heating what it is to really

geothermal heating what it is to really tap into into existing resources he’s

tap into into existing resources he’s

tap into into existing resources he’s got this whole museum we’re about the

got this whole museum we’re about the

got this whole museum we’re about the spice trade about how we’ve connected to

spice trade about how we’ve connected to

spice trade about how we’ve connected to each other and shared cultures through

each other and shared cultures through

each other and shared cultures through the products that we extract from the

the products that we extract from the

the products that we extract from the earth it’s so cool

earth it’s so cool

earth it’s so cool through that tunnel two hundred thousand

through that tunnel two hundred thousand

through that tunnel two hundred thousand Germans every year flock to eat at this

Germans every year flock to eat at this

Germans every year flock to eat at this restaurant eighty-five jobs created in

restaurant eighty-five jobs created in

restaurant eighty-five jobs created in this tiny little hamlet due to this hot

this tiny little hamlet due to this hot

this tiny little hamlet due to this hot water and at the end of the day that

water and at the end of the day that

water and at the end of the day that water goes into the stream as pure as it

water goes into the stream as pure as it

water goes into the stream as pure as it was filtered by the sturgeon at point

was filtered by the sturgeon at point

was filtered by the sturgeon at point two five degrees above the natural

two five degrees above the natural

two five degrees above the natural temperature with no energy input what I

temperature with no energy input what I

temperature with no energy input what I love about that is that it really shows

love about that is that it really shows

love about that is that it really shows that sustainable resource management

that sustainable resource management

that sustainable resource management which I’ll get to in a second is really

which I’ll get to in a second is really

which I’ll get to in a second is really a human story there’s nothing as unsexy

a human story there’s nothing as unsexy

a human story there’s nothing as unsexy as sustainable you know it maintain the

as sustainable you know it maintain the

as sustainable you know it maintain the status quo nothing sexy there

status quo nothing sexy there

status quo nothing sexy there and the dialogue in front of us about

and the dialogue in front of us about

and the dialogue in front of us about food specifically it’s not about finding

food specifically it’s not about finding

food specifically it’s not about finding more food to feed more people but it’s

more food to feed more people but it’s

more food to feed more people but it’s really about better nourishing people

really about better nourishing people

really about better nourishing people with the resources that we already have

with the resources that we already have

with the resources that we already have accessible to us and the title of this

accessible to us and the title of this

accessible to us and the title of this panel I would say should it really have

panel I would say should it really have

panel I would say should it really have been restoring resources through

been restoring resources through

been restoring resources through management as that I think is a more

management as that I think is a more

management as that I think is a more active dialogue and one that

active dialogue and one that

active dialogue and one that acknowledges that we are currently

acknowledges that we are currently

acknowledges that we are currently putting our place in the systems of this

putting our place in the systems of this

putting our place in the systems of this world in deep jeopardy restoring

world in deep jeopardy restoring

world in deep jeopardy restoring resources through management is a more

resources through management is a more

resources through management is a more hopeful it’s a more useful in a more

hopeful it’s a more useful in a more

hopeful it’s a more useful in a more human way to consider our predicament to

human way to consider our predicament to

human way to consider our predicament to heal our wounded planets even as we

heal our wounded planets even as we

heal our wounded planets even as we continue to take from it it’s not nature

continue to take from it it’s not nature

continue to take from it it’s not nature that’s in danger

that’s in danger

that’s in danger it’s our current reality within nature

it’s our current reality within nature

it’s our current reality within nature that is in danger and we seek to feed a

that is in danger and we seek to feed a

that is in danger and we seek to feed a very complicated hunger through food we

very complicated hunger through food we

very complicated hunger through food we seek to nourish with much more than just

seek to nourish with much more than just

seek to nourish with much more than just calories dinner is a ritual of place of

calories dinner is a ritual of place of

calories dinner is a ritual of place of self of community of sharing and of

self of community of sharing and of

self of community of sharing and of giving of joy and of health it’s also

giving of joy and of health it’s also

giving of joy and of health it’s also about a reverence to our place in the

about a reverence to our place in the

about a reverence to our place in the systems of this world and this world can

systems of this world and this world can

systems of this world and this world can I truly believe provide for the needs of

I truly believe provide for the needs of

I truly believe provide for the needs of the coming 7 billion for the coming nine

the coming 7 billion for the coming nine

the coming 7 billion for the coming nine billion but this world will never be

billion but this world will never be

billion but this world will never be able to provide for our desires the

able to provide for our desires the

able to provide for our desires the compelling narrative of conservation is

compelling narrative of conservation is

compelling narrative of conservation is really a story of responsible

really a story of responsible

really a story of responsible consumption it’s not about what we don’t

consumption it’s not about what we don’t

consumption it’s not about what we don’t do it’s not about what we sacrifice or

do it’s not about what we sacrifice or

do it’s not about what we sacrifice or abstain from but rather it’s what we do

abstain from but rather it’s what we do

abstain from but rather it’s what we do and how we do it as we talk of

and how we do it as we talk of

and how we do it as we talk of restorative resource management we must

restorative resource management we must

restorative resource management we must also begin a dialogue about sustainable

also begin a dialogue about sustainable

also begin a dialogue about sustainable resource use it’s not enough to just

resource use it’s not enough to just

resource use it’s not enough to just have green products like that sturgeon

have green products like that sturgeon

have green products like that sturgeon if we use it unwisely

if we use it unwisely

if we use it unwisely if you have sustainable shrimp and you

if you have sustainable shrimp and you

if you have sustainable shrimp and you put it on an all-you-can-eat shrimp

put it on an all-you-can-eat shrimp

put it on an all-you-can-eat shrimp buffet

buffet

buffet fail you’ve failed at the human aspect

fail you’ve failed at the human aspect

fail you’ve failed at the human aspect not the environmental aspect and as I

not the environmental aspect and as I

not the environmental aspect and as I saw in the example of fruits again

saw in the example of fruits again

saw in the example of fruits again restoration is really creativity in the

restoration is really creativity in the

restoration is really creativity in the presence of decline and/or liability it

presence of decline and/or liability it

presence of decline and/or liability it is creativity in redefining economic

is creativity in redefining economic

is creativity in redefining economic value and sustainability is really about

value and sustainability is really about

value and sustainability is really about redefining our values re-examining the

redefining our values re-examining the

redefining our values re-examining the products that we already have on our

products that we already have on our

products that we already have on our plates such as the work that pettersson

plates such as the work that pettersson

plates such as the work that pettersson Maloof is doing and it’s also about

Maloof is doing and it’s also about

Maloof is doing and it’s also about re-examining our

re-examining our

re-examining our patience of maintaining our place in

patience of maintaining our place in

patience of maintaining our place in this ecosystem and this dialogue

this ecosystem and this dialogue

this ecosystem and this dialogue luckily begins with dinner dinner is the

luckily begins with dinner dinner is the

luckily begins with dinner dinner is the confluence of nearly every scientific

confluence of nearly every scientific

confluence of nearly every scientific enterprise that there is dinner is

enterprise that there is dinner is

enterprise that there is dinner is universal it is human dinner is small

universal it is human dinner is small

universal it is human dinner is small portions of protein diverse protein it

portions of protein diverse protein it

portions of protein diverse protein it is giant piles of green beans broccoli

is giant piles of green beans broccoli

is giant piles of green beans broccoli quinoa

quinoa

quinoa you know sweet potatoes with a cilantro

you know sweet potatoes with a cilantro

you know sweet potatoes with a cilantro almond pesto it’s it’s good but dinner

almond pesto it’s it’s good but dinner

almond pesto it’s it’s good but dinner is joy dinner is reverence dinner is

is joy dinner is reverence dinner is

is joy dinner is reverence dinner is family dinner is our place in the

family dinner is our place in the

family dinner is our place in the systems of this world

systems of this world

systems of this world and the very best part about this is

and the very best part about this is

and the very best part about this is that beginning to cult them not

that beginning to cult them not

that beginning to cult them not cultivate an understanding of this to

cultivate an understanding of this to

cultivate an understanding of this to begin the conversation of inspiring

begin the conversation of inspiring

begin the conversation of inspiring people to care about the planet is

people to care about the planet is

people to care about the planet is beyond doable it’s it’s actually just

beyond doable it’s it’s actually just

beyond doable it’s it’s actually just delicious

delicious

delicious so thank you

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