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Interview: Frans Lanting | National Geographic


I’m privileged to be an observer to you

I’m privileged to be an observer to you know spend time at these spectacular

know spend time at these spectacular

know spend time at these spectacular Birds and I feel I have a responsibility

Birds and I feel I have a responsibility

Birds and I feel I have a responsibility to share what I’ve come to understand

to share what I’ve come to understand

to share what I’ve come to understand and appreciate about these birds and

and appreciate about these birds and

and appreciate about these birds and take that knowledge back and use the

take that knowledge back and use the

take that knowledge back and use the images as windows into a world that most

images as windows into a world that most

images as windows into a world that most people will never see that means

people will never see that means

people will never see that means spending time with animals up close the

spending time with animals up close the

spending time with animals up close the more time I can spend or I understand

more time I can spend or I understand

more time I can spend or I understand about these animals lives and the more

about these animals lives and the more

about these animals lives and the more intimate that relationship becomes and

intimate that relationship becomes and

intimate that relationship becomes and it’s really no different from the way

it’s really no different from the way

it’s really no different from the way photographer who focuses his camera or

photographer who focuses his camera or

photographer who focuses his camera or people operates it’s all about building

people operates it’s all about building

people operates it’s all about building a relationship and having empathy for

a relationship and having empathy for

a relationship and having empathy for your subject and understanding your

your subject and understanding your

your subject and understanding your subject and ultimately you need to be

subject and ultimately you need to be

subject and ultimately you need to be able to be like a fly on the wall you

able to be like a fly on the wall you

able to be like a fly on the wall you need to be able to be transparent and I

need to be able to be transparent and I

need to be able to be transparent and I like to slowly ease my way into

like to slowly ease my way into

like to slowly ease my way into situations until the albatrosses don’t

situations until the albatrosses don’t

situations until the albatrosses don’t pay the attention to anymore they’re too

pay the attention to anymore they’re too

pay the attention to anymore they’re too busy with one another I try to put

busy with one another I try to put

busy with one another I try to put myself in the position of the animals

myself in the position of the animals

myself in the position of the animals that I’m working with and that means

that I’m working with and that means

that I’m working with and that means that yeah I adopt another perspective

that yeah I adopt another perspective

that yeah I adopt another perspective and then I’m an albatross sitting on a

and then I’m an albatross sitting on a

and then I’m an albatross sitting on a nest and I’m approached by a large

nest and I’m approached by a large

nest and I’m approached by a large mammal that stands 5 feet tall I would

mammal that stands 5 feet tall I would

mammal that stands 5 feet tall I would be concerned so instead I try to make

be concerned so instead I try to make

be concerned so instead I try to make myself small I crawl around him I move

myself small I crawl around him I move

myself small I crawl around him I move very slowly

very slowly

very slowly I don’t flail my arms and I give him

I don’t flail my arms and I give him

I don’t flail my arms and I give him time to get used to my presence and

time to get used to my presence and

time to get used to my presence and without speaking to that bird I can

without speaking to that bird I can

without speaking to that bird I can indicate that that bird shouldn’t have

indicate that that bird shouldn’t have

indicate that that bird shouldn’t have to worry about me because you know I’m

to worry about me because you know I’m

to worry about me because you know I’m respectful

respectful

respectful I’ve always been interested in

I’ve always been interested in

I’ve always been interested in photographs I’ve looked at pictures in

photographs I’ve looked at pictures in

photographs I’ve looked at pictures in the National Geographic since I was a

the National Geographic since I was a

the National Geographic since I was a boy growing up in Holland but the idea

boy growing up in Holland but the idea

boy growing up in Holland but the idea that I could become a photographer

that I could become a photographer

that I could become a photographer myself didn’t occur to me until I was in

myself didn’t occur to me until I was in

myself didn’t occur to me until I was in my 20s and at the time there were not so

my 20s and at the time there were not so

my 20s and at the time there were not so many role models so I taught myself

many role models so I taught myself

many role models so I taught myself photography I never went to school I

photography I never went to school I

photography I never went to school I also trained myself to become a

also trained myself to become a

also trained myself to become a naturalist I don’t have any background

naturalist I don’t have any background

naturalist I don’t have any background in biology so I’m self-taught but even

in biology so I’m self-taught but even

in biology so I’m self-taught but even today it is very hard to point to a to a

today it is very hard to point to a to a

today it is very hard to point to a to a course at a university or in any other

course at a university or in any other

course at a university or in any other school where you can go to study how to

school where you can go to study how to

school where you can go to study how to become a natural history photographer it

become a natural history photographer it

become a natural history photographer it is really all about doing it in the

is really all about doing it in the

is really all about doing it in the field sometimes I work alone but more

field sometimes I work alone but more

field sometimes I work alone but more often I do the fieldwork with my wife in

often I do the fieldwork with my wife in

often I do the fieldwork with my wife in partner Christi next to him was a former

partner Christi next to him was a former

partner Christi next to him was a former staff writer at National Geographic and

staff writer at National Geographic and

staff writer at National Geographic and now she mixes up her fieldwork between

now she mixes up her fieldwork between

now she mixes up her fieldwork between writing and capturing images with video

writing and capturing images with video

writing and capturing images with video cameras so we are an unusual team in the

cameras so we are an unusual team in the

cameras so we are an unusual team in the field but we also work with biologists

field but we also work with biologists

field but we also work with biologists quite often we work with people involved

quite often we work with people involved

quite often we work with people involved in conservation projects we work with

in conservation projects we work with

in conservation projects we work with people who know situations very well on

people who know situations very well on

people who know situations very well on the basis of living in a certain place

the basis of living in a certain place

the basis of living in a certain place for very long so it can

for very long so it can

for very long so it can be a very simple process of me sitting

be a very simple process of me sitting

be a very simple process of me sitting in front of one albatross or it can

in front of one albatross or it can

in front of one albatross or it can become a very complex situation you

become a very complex situation you

become a very complex situation you don’t find albatrosses near 5-star

don’t find albatrosses near 5-star

don’t find albatrosses near 5-star hotels and so the conditions in the

hotels and so the conditions in the

hotels and so the conditions in the field can be pretty rough but you know

field can be pretty rough but you know

field can be pretty rough but you know whatever it takes I do I spent a lot of

whatever it takes I do I spent a lot of

whatever it takes I do I spent a lot of time camping out in tents on windswept

time camping out in tents on windswept

time camping out in tents on windswept lonely islands and for this albatross

lonely islands and for this albatross

lonely islands and for this albatross project I even ended up spending time in

project I even ended up spending time in

project I even ended up spending time in a shipping container that this had the

a shipping container that this had the

a shipping container that this had the only shelter that existed on that island

only shelter that existed on that island

only shelter that existed on that island that enabled me to stay close to the

that enabled me to stay close to the

that enabled me to stay close to the elders office when I was in my early

elders office when I was in my early

elders office when I was in my early twenties I came to the United States and

twenties I came to the United States and

twenties I came to the United States and I hiked around and I discovered the

I hiked around and I discovered the

I hiked around and I discovered the phenomenal beauty and the wilderness of

phenomenal beauty and the wilderness of

phenomenal beauty and the wilderness of the western United States and that was a

the western United States and that was a

the western United States and that was a real eye-opener to me and I also

real eye-opener to me and I also

real eye-opener to me and I also discovered photography as it had become

discovered photography as it had become

discovered photography as it had become a tradition in the United States the

a tradition in the United States the

a tradition in the United States the great wilderness photographers Ansel

great wilderness photographers Ansel

great wilderness photographers Ansel Adams and Edward Weston and then Bullock

Adams and Edward Weston and then Bullock

Adams and Edward Weston and then Bullock and Philip Hyde in quite a number of

and Philip Hyde in quite a number of

and Philip Hyde in quite a number of others and in Europe we did not have

others and in Europe we did not have

others and in Europe we did not have such a tradition and that is when I

such a tradition and that is when I

such a tradition and that is when I realized that there was a artistic

realized that there was a artistic

realized that there was a artistic tradition that I could perhaps become

tradition that I could perhaps become

tradition that I could perhaps become part of

part of

part of I’m inspired by how artists in the

I’m inspired by how artists in the

I’m inspired by how artists in the deserts of Australia have come to

deserts of Australia have come to

deserts of Australia have come to portray landscapes and I’ve also been

portray landscapes and I’ve also been

portray landscapes and I’ve also been inspired over the years by how painters

inspired over the years by how painters

inspired over the years by how painters and poets in China and Japan have

and poets in China and Japan have

and poets in China and Japan have portrayed the world or now I look at the

portrayed the world or now I look at the

portrayed the world or now I look at the way European wilderness and wildlife

way European wilderness and wildlife

way European wilderness and wildlife painters deal with their subjects on

painters deal with their subjects on

painters deal with their subjects on canvas all of those different points of

canvas all of those different points of

canvas all of those different points of view have inspired me over the years and

view have inspired me over the years and

view have inspired me over the years and sometimes they’re implicitly my images

sometimes they’re implicitly my images

sometimes they’re implicitly my images and other times they are actually

and other times they are actually

and other times they are actually resulting in images that have a very

resulting in images that have a very

resulting in images that have a very clear affinity with a particular

clear affinity with a particular

clear affinity with a particular artistic or cultural tradition I try to

artistic or cultural tradition I try to

artistic or cultural tradition I try to tell stories about the natural world

tell stories about the natural world

tell stories about the natural world using sequences of images and a National

using sequences of images and a National

using sequences of images and a National Geographic we know how to do that you

Geographic we know how to do that you

Geographic we know how to do that you know there’s a tradition that spans more

know there’s a tradition that spans more

know there’s a tradition that spans more than a century and the editors at the

than a century and the editors at the

than a century and the editors at the National Geographic have worked at it so

National Geographic have worked at it so

National Geographic have worked at it so many photographers in so many subjects

many photographers in so many subjects

many photographers in so many subjects over the years that a unique tradition

over the years that a unique tradition

over the years that a unique tradition of working with photographs for the sake

of working with photographs for the sake

of working with photographs for the sake of telling stories about the world has

of telling stories about the world has

of telling stories about the world has been nurtured here and I’ve become part

been nurtured here and I’ve become part

been nurtured here and I’ve become part of that tradition and you know after all

of that tradition and you know after all

of that tradition and you know after all these assignments that I’ve done for the

these assignments that I’ve done for the

these assignments that I’ve done for the magazine I’ve internalized that process

magazine I’ve internalized that process

magazine I’ve internalized that process and now when I go out I don’t have to

and now when I go out I don’t have to

and now when I go out I don’t have to think about it much anymore it’s just

think about it much anymore it’s just

think about it much anymore it’s just becoming second nature to me what many

becoming second nature to me what many

becoming second nature to me what many people don’t realize is how much work

people don’t realize is how much work

people don’t realize is how much work and expertise goes into producing these

and expertise goes into producing these

and expertise goes into producing these photo stories and covering a subject for

photo stories and covering a subject for

photo stories and covering a subject for the National Geographic they think you

the National Geographic they think you

the National Geographic they think you know I have the greatest job in the

know I have the greatest job in the

know I have the greatest job in the world

world

world which indeed I have but they think that

which indeed I have but they think that

which indeed I have but they think that all you have to do is show up at a

all you have to do is show up at a

all you have to do is show up at a camera of and the Sun is going down and

camera of and the Sun is going down and

camera of and the Sun is going down and you make some pictures and that’s it

you make some pictures and that’s it

you make some pictures and that’s it there’s a huge amount of work involved

there’s a huge amount of work involved

there’s a huge amount of work involved in researching a subject and then

in researching a subject and then

in researching a subject and then planning the expedition’s and then

planning the expedition’s and then

planning the expedition’s and then developing relationships with people on

developing relationships with people on

developing relationships with people on location and understanding that there’s

location and understanding that there’s

location and understanding that there’s a whole socio economic and cultural

a whole socio economic and cultural

a whole socio economic and cultural context that there are always

context that there are always

context that there are always environmental issues which cry out to be

environmental issues which cry out to be

environmental issues which cry out to be covered and made part of a coverage so

covered and made part of a coverage so

covered and made part of a coverage so it’s very complex and at the end of an

it’s very complex and at the end of an

it’s very complex and at the end of an assignment like this albatross project I

assignment like this albatross project I

assignment like this albatross project I know as much as anybody about it and so

know as much as anybody about it and so

know as much as anybody about it and so I’m not just a photographer I need to be

I’m not just a photographer I need to be

I’m not just a photographer I need to be able to converse about the subject I

able to converse about the subject I

able to converse about the subject I become the storyteller and I become an

become the storyteller and I become an

become the storyteller and I become an ambassador for albatrosses

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