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Evan coaching call with @thisismuch the #Fantasy copywriter (ep. 11)


alright welcome back another edition of

alright welcome back another edition of coaching with jen the fantasy copywriter

coaching with jen the fantasy copywriter

coaching with jen the fantasy copywriter episode number 11 we ready getting some

episode number 11 we ready getting some

episode number 11 we ready getting some props a little different on blab you get

props a little different on blab you get

props a little different on blab you get props when you click on the person’s

props when you click on the person’s

props when you click on the person’s face okay ah so what’s up tell me what’s

face okay ah so what’s up tell me what’s

face okay ah so what’s up tell me what’s what’s the update has been okay so since

what’s the update has been okay so since

what’s the update has been okay so since we talked last I had developed a Content

we talked last I had developed a Content

we talked last I had developed a Content calendar and I did pretty good was

calendar and I did pretty good was

calendar and I did pretty good was sticking with that but one thing I like

sticking with that but one thing I like

sticking with that but one thing I like made sure that i did was due up one

made sure that i did was due up one

made sure that i did was due up one copywriting video week per our

copywriting video week per our

copywriting video week per our conversation yeah so I’m pretty proud of

conversation yeah so I’m pretty proud of

conversation yeah so I’m pretty proud of myself for that because I celebrate I

myself for that because I celebrate I

myself for that because I celebrate I did that ops we’re gonna be the cops

did that ops we’re gonna be the cops

did that ops we’re gonna be the cops there you go yeah and I love it because

that’s hilarious these little bubbles

that’s hilarious these little bubbles coming up I love it um so yeah so that

coming up I love it um so yeah so that

coming up I love it um so yeah so that was uh that was pretty cool i’m really

was uh that was pretty cool i’m really

was uh that was pretty cool i’m really glad about that and i have so many more

glad about that and i have so many more

glad about that and i have so many more cup already videos now too and I took

cup already videos now too and I took

cup already videos now too and I took your advice and decided not to like over

your advice and decided not to like over

your advice and decided not to like over sake it and not like bright copy for

sake it and not like bright copy for

sake it and not like bright copy for each one of them in fact I didn’t I

each one of them in fact I didn’t I

each one of them in fact I didn’t I think I’m wrote copy for any of them i

think I’m wrote copy for any of them i

think I’m wrote copy for any of them i just talked about my feelings of

just talked about my feelings of

just talked about my feelings of philosophies on things and the other

philosophies on things and the other

philosophies on things and the other thing that’s been great which I love is

thing that’s been great which I love is

thing that’s been great which I love is it now that I have more subscribers

it now that I have more subscribers

it now that I have more subscribers people are asking me questions and make

people are asking me questions and make

people are asking me questions and make suggestions and comments on my videos

suggestions and comments on my videos

suggestions and comments on my videos and so it like gives me ideas for more

and so it like gives me ideas for more

and so it like gives me ideas for more stuff more videos so um it’s been great

stuff more videos so um it’s been great

stuff more videos so um it’s been great so I’ve been doing that and I many weeks

so I’ve been doing that and I many weeks

so I’ve been doing that and I many weeks I did two videos I think maybe one week

I did two videos I think maybe one week

I did two videos I think maybe one week I had three but for the most part of one

I had three but for the most part of one

I had three but for the most part of one copyrighted video a week so and that

copyrighted video a week so and that

copyrighted video a week so and that content color to really helped the head

content color to really helped the head

content color to really helped the head it like a scheduled out like what I’m

it like a scheduled out like what I’m

it like a scheduled out like what I’m gonna do and that was it was huge to

gonna do and that was it was huge to

gonna do and that was it was huge to have that like calendar doubt and

have that like calendar doubt and

have that like calendar doubt and scheduled and thought ahead of time I

scheduled and thought ahead of time I

scheduled and thought ahead of time I love it and and and they’re short you

love it and and and they’re short you

love it and and and they’re short you know like two minutes three minutes you

know like two minutes three minutes you

know like two minutes three minutes you see the BAM because your other ones were

see the BAM because your other ones were

see the BAM because your other ones were eight Marilyn yes I want to value but it

eight Marilyn yes I want to value but it

eight Marilyn yes I want to value but it took an insane amount of time to put

took an insane amount of time to put

took an insane amount of time to put together right right exactly because it

together right right exactly because it

together right right exactly because it wasn’t just the filming it was the M

wasn’t just the filming it was the M

wasn’t just the filming it was the M editing it was the like riding the copy

editing it was the like riding the copy

editing it was the like riding the copy and like screenshots of before and

and like screenshots of before and

and like screenshots of before and afters and those look like you said

afters and those look like you said

afters and those look like you said those are valuable and I definitely want

those are valuable and I definitely want

those are valuable and I definitely want to do some more of those I just um in

to do some more of those I just um in

to do some more of those I just um in order to keep to my goal I just decided

order to keep to my goal I just decided

order to keep to my goal I just decided to make it easy so it could it be

to make it easy so it could it be

to make it easy so it could it be multi-part to like that that 10 minute

multi-part to like that that 10 minute

multi-part to like that that 10 minute video that you used to do could that be

video that you used to do could that be

video that you used to do could that be 52 minute videos yeah i think it

52 minute videos yeah i think it

52 minute videos yeah i think it probably could be cuz like there was

probably could be cuz like there was

probably could be cuz like there was like that yeah like that Portland

like that yeah like that Portland

like that yeah like that Portland copy video I did you know I took 10

copy video I did you know I took 10

copy video I did you know I took 10 different websites or maybe was eight I

different websites or maybe was eight I

different websites or maybe was eight I can’t remember even anymore but it was

can’t remember even anymore but it was

can’t remember even anymore but it was like a lot of different websites that i

like a lot of different websites that i

like a lot of different websites that i wrote for and I could have just broken

wrote for and I could have just broken

wrote for and I could have just broken that up an individual a little mini

that up an individual a little mini

that up an individual a little mini videos and like continue the series it’s

videos and like continue the series it’s

videos and like continue the series it’s not become a fun idea maybe I should do

not become a fun idea maybe I should do

not become a fun idea maybe I should do that again yeah I mean it’s great to

that again yeah I mean it’s great to

that again yeah I mean it’s great to understand the theory behind it right

understand the theory behind it right

understand the theory behind it right you’re powerful opinion on this topic on

you’re powerful opinion on this topic on

you’re powerful opinion on this topic on how to write a headline is whatever and

how to write a headline is whatever and

how to write a headline is whatever and you have your methodology and then you

you have your methodology and then you

you have your methodology and then you could have a quick anecdote or example

could have a quick anecdote or example

could have a quick anecdote or example from your own life or story or like you

from your own life or story or like you

from your own life or story or like you know you walked into Whole Foods and you

know you walked into Whole Foods and you

know you walked into Whole Foods and you saw this and it was great or it was

saw this and it was great or it was

saw this and it was great or it was terrible well you can easily follow that

terrible well you can easily follow that

terrible well you can easily follow that up with something the next week showing

up with something the next week showing

up with something the next week showing an example of a website if you want to

an example of a website if you want to

an example of a website if you want to go deeper into it yeah I think that’s a

go deeper into it yeah I think that’s a

go deeper into it yeah I think that’s a cool idea I love the idea taking real

cool idea I love the idea taking real

cool idea I love the idea taking real world examples like the tweet you had

world examples like the tweet you had

world examples like the tweet you had the other day i love that that was

the other day i love that that was

the other day i love that that was awesome i love things it was true that I

awesome i love things it was true that I

awesome i love things it was true that I was like it’s condom and that’s awesome

was like it’s condom and that’s awesome

was like it’s condom and that’s awesome oh yeah yeah I remember one oh yeah it

oh yeah yeah I remember one oh yeah it

oh yeah yeah I remember one oh yeah it was like a nuts thing about Christmas

was like a nuts thing about Christmas

was like a nuts thing about Christmas and how you can throw away like after

and how you can throw away like after

and how you can throw away like after Christmas or something I Cameron Bure I

Christmas or something I Cameron Bure I

Christmas or something I Cameron Bure I couldn’t even hardly tell it was it

couldn’t even hardly tell it was it

couldn’t even hardly tell it was it looks like those nuts right yeah yeah

looks like those nuts right yeah yeah

looks like those nuts right yeah yeah those those I’m eyes at walnuts no

those those I’m eyes at walnuts no

those those I’m eyes at walnuts no vomiting walnuts it looked like walnuts

vomiting walnuts it looked like walnuts

vomiting walnuts it looked like walnuts in the picture so like the idea was yo

in the picture so like the idea was yo

in the picture so like the idea was yo you can take these and decorative in a

you can take these and decorative in a

you can take these and decorative in a bowl for Christmas event throw my sure

bowl for Christmas event throw my sure

bowl for Christmas event throw my sure cuz mullahs are a pain in the ass to

cuz mullahs are a pain in the ass to

cuz mullahs are a pain in the ass to correct let me tell you my grandma is

correct let me tell you my grandma is

correct let me tell you my grandma is you like cracker wall anyway random

you like cracker wall anyway random

you like cracker wall anyway random changes I like it so with lab you also

changes I like it so with lab you also

changes I like it so with lab you also we can see you know how many props sweet

we can see you know how many props sweet

we can see you know how many props sweet get so you’re you’re destroying me right

get so you’re you’re destroying me right

get so you’re you’re destroying me right now and the props I love it I love it

now and the props I love it I love it

now and the props I love it I love it thanks day feel like I need to talk more

thanks day feel like I need to talk more

thanks day feel like I need to talk more to get more props oh now he’s doing it

to get more props oh now he’s doing it

to get more props oh now he’s doing it he’s property okay so you have your

he’s property okay so you have your

he’s property okay so you have your content columns are great uh and the the

content columns are great uh and the the

content columns are great uh and the the content that sorry the copy ones have

content that sorry the copy ones have

content that sorry the copy ones have been consistent and it’s great to see

been consistent and it’s great to see

been consistent and it’s great to see that because you had a stretch there was

that because you had a stretch there was

that because you had a stretch there was all personal or book without anything

all personal or book without anything

all personal or book without anything about the business for ya um so so how

about the business for ya um so so how

about the business for ya um so so how do you evolve that now because the goal

do you evolve that now because the goal

do you evolve that now because the goal last time was to have one personal one

last time was to have one personal one

last time was to have one personal one copy business-related right for a week

copy business-related right for a week

copy business-related right for a week yep so you’re close yeah I’m close well

yep so you’re close yeah I’m close well

yep so you’re close yeah I’m close well I had the idea of maybe evolving it by

I had the idea of maybe evolving it by

I had the idea of maybe evolving it by because now that you can do a little

because now that you can do a little

because now that you can do a little mini videos on Instagram and Twitter um

mini videos on Instagram and Twitter um

mini videos on Instagram and Twitter um maybe even just doing like a little you

maybe even just doing like a little you

maybe even just doing like a little you know 10 second video or whatever however

know 10 second video or whatever however

know 10 second video or whatever however my second you have on each of those to

my second you have on each of those to

my second you have on each of those to say hey check out my new video on so

say hey check out my new video on so

say hey check out my new video on so almost like doing a video to come out

almost like doing a video to come out

almost like doing a video to come out the video that’s on YouTube and

the video that’s on YouTube and

the video that’s on YouTube and experimenting with that you can’t what

experimenting with that you can’t what

experimenting with that you can’t what about getting the other piece consistent

about getting the other piece consistent

about getting the other piece consistent that the personal one or the book one

that the personal one or the book one

that the personal one or the book one something you have the blue series the

something you have the blue series the

something you have the blue series the yeah and the balloon is the fantasy

yeah and the balloon is the fantasy

yeah and the balloon is the fantasy friday and then I’ve been doing um the

friday and then I’ve been doing um the

friday and then I’ve been doing um the take a leap on Mondays which I think

take a leap on Mondays which I think

take a leap on Mondays which I think would be a really good one to make sure

would be a really good one to make sure

would be a really good one to make sure I continue one of the things I’ve done

I continue one of the things I’ve done

I continue one of the things I’ve done with that is a lot of my mastermind

with that is a lot of my mastermind

with that is a lot of my mastermind videos I’ve used for that which have

videos I’ve used for that which have

videos I’ve used for that which have been great because they’re kind of like

been great because they’re kind of like

been great because they’re kind of like they’re sort of business oriented but

they’re sort of business oriented but

they’re sort of business oriented but they’re about like my bit McNee though

they’re about like my bit McNee though

they’re about like my bit McNee though turret to like my own personal take on

turret to like my own personal take on

turret to like my own personal take on my business so I’ve been wondering like

my business so I’ve been wondering like

my business so I’ve been wondering like should I continue doing those would take

should I continue doing those would take

should I continue doing those would take the leap or should I like focus more on

the leap or should I like focus more on

the leap or should I like focus more on like um you know something more specific

like um you know something more specific

like um you know something more specific about what I’m doing to help my business

about what I’m doing to help my business

about what I’m doing to help my business which is kind of how I sort of

which is kind of how I sort of

which is kind of how I sort of originally presented that series true or

originally presented that series true or

originally presented that series true or you time together if you see is you fit

you time together if you see is you fit

you time together if you see is you fit like um what was the last one talking

like um what was the last one talking

like um what was the last one talking about the favorite book another right

about the favorite book another right

about the favorite book another right yeah well jerez had for this week is the

yeah well jerez had for this week is the

yeah well jerez had for this week is the which I’ve filmed already I seven put up

which I’ve filmed already I seven put up

which I’ve filmed already I seven put up yet so that was the what ways to inject

yet so that was the what ways to inject

yet so that was the what ways to inject fun into your day right now right so

fun into your day right now right so

fun into your day right now right so yeah I think actually that could be

yeah I think actually that could be

yeah I think actually that could be applicable to particularly for sure and

applicable to particularly for sure and

applicable to particularly for sure and if you’re talking about a book that

if you’re talking about a book that

if you’re talking about a book that could be related you relate to your

could be related you relate to your

could be related you relate to your business even if it’s not a business

business even if it’s not a business

business even if it’s not a business lesson even it’s a personal life lesson

lesson even it’s a personal life lesson

lesson even it’s a personal life lesson that you like why do you like this book

that you like why do you like this book

that you like why do you like this book because it give you confidence and then

because it give you confidence and then

because it give you confidence and then you can tie that into my business

you can tie that into my business

you can tie that into my business business yeah with a good story yeah I

business yeah with a good story yeah I

business yeah with a good story yeah I like it okay yes I will take it to the

like it okay yes I will take it to the

like it okay yes I will take it to the next level and for sure do a take the

next level and for sure do a take the

next level and for sure do a take the leap video every week and I still want

leap video every week and I still want

leap video every week and I still want to do penis you Friday I’m kind of I’ve

to do penis you Friday I’m kind of I’ve

to do penis you Friday I’m kind of I’ve been sort of doing every other week with

been sort of doing every other week with

been sort of doing every other week with its due friday so i think that’s kind of

its due friday so i think that’s kind of

its due friday so i think that’s kind of good to you know keep that bri other

good to you know keep that bri other

good to you know keep that bri other friday but for sure do take the leap i

friday but for sure do take the leap i

friday but for sure do take the leap i love it so along those lines can you

love it so along those lines can you

love it so along those lines can you batch them together I can

batch them together I can

batch them together I can I can eat like even as far as filming

I can eat like even as far as filming

I can eat like even as far as filming them all on the same day yeah yeah I

them all on the same day yeah yeah I

them all on the same day yeah yeah I mean now that I’ve sort of established

mean now that I’ve sort of established

mean now that I’ve sort of established my content calendar it’s a lot easier to

my content calendar it’s a lot easier to

my content calendar it’s a lot easier to do that because I determined ahead of

do that because I determined ahead of

do that because I determined ahead of time what I’m gonna do so it’s just a

time what I’m gonna do so it’s just a

time what I’m gonna do so it’s just a matter of one of the things obviously

matter of one of the things obviously

matter of one of the things obviously that’s because i’m a newbie i’m still

that’s because i’m a newbie i’m still

that’s because i’m a newbie i’m still learning how to you know what am i

learning how to you know what am i

learning how to you know what am i trying to stay here do it quickly and

trying to stay here do it quickly and

trying to stay here do it quickly and smoothly and you know so there are days

smoothly and you know so there are days

smoothly and you know so there are days like I’ve planned on doing three videos

like I’ve planned on doing three videos

like I’ve planned on doing three videos and I only did one because it like took

and I only did one because it like took

and I only did one because it like took me longer than I thought right so um a

me longer than I thought right so um a

me longer than I thought right so um a lot I guess yeah I think a lot of it is

lot I guess yeah I think a lot of it is

lot I guess yeah I think a lot of it is that there’s a lot of setup time to get

that there’s a lot of setup time to get

that there’s a lot of setup time to get ready both in terms of like the camera

ready both in terms of like the camera

ready both in terms of like the camera and the gear and we know you do I pup

and the gear and we know you do I pup

and the gear and we know you do I pup but also eye makeup and clothes and

but also eye makeup and clothes and

but also eye makeup and clothes and getting ready I mean doing the hair and

getting ready I mean doing the hair and

getting ready I mean doing the hair and and then third is just the mindset of

and then third is just the mindset of

and then third is just the mindset of being ready to like I’m writing in my

being ready to like I’m writing in my

being ready to like I’m writing in my book I don’t want to talk to anybody

book I don’t want to talk to anybody

book I don’t want to talk to anybody it’s like all right no I get it don’t

it’s like all right no I get it don’t

it’s like all right no I get it don’t talk to me I want to do my thing in my

talk to me I want to do my thing in my

talk to me I want to do my thing in my zone but when I when I finish doing one

zone but when I when I finish doing one

zone but when I when I finish doing one video I can I’m right already in that

video I can I’m right already in that

video I can I’m right already in that zone easy to go into another video in

zone easy to go into another video in

zone easy to go into another video in another video just give me another topic

another video just give me another topic

another video just give me another topic go let’s go let’s do more I knew Evan

go let’s go let’s do more I knew Evan

go let’s go let’s do more I knew Evan I’m all set up right but he takes a

I’m all set up right but he takes a

I’m all set up right but he takes a little bit of mental effort to get ready

little bit of mental effort to get ready

little bit of mental effort to get ready for it the first time um I great I’d

for it the first time um I great I’d

for it the first time um I great I’d remember me it’s like a full-on setup

remember me it’s like a full-on setup

remember me it’s like a full-on setup because i have a backdrop that i put up

because i have a backdrop that i put up

because i have a backdrop that i put up and then I like I mean you know I’m kind

and then I like I mean you know I’m kind

and then I like I mean you know I’m kind of laughing cuz my setup is kind of like

of laughing cuz my setup is kind of like

of laughing cuz my setup is kind of like we she’s like I literally have us

we she’s like I literally have us

we she’s like I literally have us rolling dishwasher that I role in that I

rolling dishwasher that I role in that I

rolling dishwasher that I role in that I like set up my camera on which I’m

like set up my camera on which I’m

like set up my camera on which I’m changing my one of my goals was next

changing my one of my goals was next

changing my one of my goals was next month is sick you know get it like a

month is sick you know get it like a

month is sick you know get it like a tripod you know attachment for my iphone

tripod you know attachment for my iphone

tripod you know attachment for my iphone and some other things but in the

and some other things but in the

and some other things but in the meantime for now it’s like furniture

meantime for now it’s like furniture

meantime for now it’s like furniture like it’s put in place and hilarious so

like it’s put in place and hilarious so

like it’s put in place and hilarious so you’re right like it’s a lot of time

you’re right like it’s a lot of time

you’re right like it’s a lot of time setting that up so it does make sense to

setting that up so it does make sense to

setting that up so it does make sense to do them all ones yeah you could probably

do them all ones yeah you could probably

do them all ones yeah you could probably you could probably bang those out and

you could probably bang those out and

you could probably bang those out and and have two or three videos a week

and have two or three videos a week

and have two or three videos a week because they’re not they’re not one that

because they’re not they’re not one that

because they’re not they’re not one that long look you’re not talking fantasy

long look you’re not talking fantasy

long look you’re not talking fantasy Friday’s two minutes under two minutes

Friday’s two minutes under two minutes

Friday’s two minutes under two minutes it’s not right like valuable but not a

it’s not right like valuable but not a

it’s not right like valuable but not a an insane amount of war

an insane amount of war

an insane amount of war put together oh yeah I think you just

put together oh yeah I think you just

put together oh yeah I think you just put them all in the same day what when

put them all in the same day what when

put them all in the same day what when is it is it still sunday or one is your

is it is it still sunday or one is your

is it is it still sunday or one is your video recording day I’ve been doing on

video recording day I’ve been doing on

video recording day I’ve been doing on Tuesdays and then I moved to tuesdays i

Tuesdays and then I moved to tuesdays i

Tuesdays and then I moved to tuesdays i originally wanted to do it on my face

originally wanted to do it on my face

originally wanted to do it on my face but it just it’s turned out to be

but it just it’s turned out to be

but it just it’s turned out to be Tuesday’s the better day okay yeah try

Tuesday’s the better day okay yeah try

Tuesday’s the better day okay yeah try it yeah i mean at least the two if not

it yeah i mean at least the two if not

it yeah i mean at least the two if not the three okay okay yeah I think it’s a

the three okay okay yeah I think it’s a

the three okay okay yeah I think it’s a great idea I mean there was this one

great idea I mean there was this one

great idea I mean there was this one time with Jason one time I like film

time with Jason one time I like film

time with Jason one time I like film like 10 videos or something in one day

like 10 videos or something in one day

like 10 videos or something in one day and like what I wanted to Seattle with

and like what I wanted to Seattle with

and like what I wanted to Seattle with you like you had a mom I’m in get easily

you like you had a mom I’m in get easily

you like you had a mom I’m in get easily to have everything prepared ahead of

to have everything prepared ahead of

to have everything prepared ahead of time you know you can just whip them out

time you know you can just whip them out

time you know you can just whip them out we did like what seven videos in an hour

we did like what seven videos in an hour

we did like what seven videos in an hour or something like that since yeah with

or something like that since yeah with

or something like that since yeah with you we just have to learn with the

you we just have to learn with the

you we just have to learn with the camera I mean that’s cool too yeah a

camera I mean that’s cool too yeah a

camera I mean that’s cool too yeah a unit using a min oh right it’s like even

unit using a min oh right it’s like even

unit using a min oh right it’s like even know I’d never eaten go right right and

know I’d never eaten go right right and

know I’d never eaten go right right and so here at least you’re talking about

so here at least you’re talking about

so here at least you’re talking about you know fantasy friday you’re talking

you know fantasy friday you’re talking

you know fantasy friday you’re talking with something that boat that’s

with something that boat that’s

with something that boat that’s meaningful to you that you like and why

meaningful to you that you like and why

meaningful to you that you like and why all this stuff you have the copy 12 you

all this stuff you have the copy 12 you

all this stuff you have the copy 12 you have you have expertise you’ve thought

have you have expertise you’ve thought

have you have expertise you’ve thought about this if you haven’t likes

about this if you haven’t likes

about this if you haven’t likes word-for-word know what you’re going to

word-for-word know what you’re going to

word-for-word know what you’re going to say you thought about and have an idea

say you thought about and have an idea

say you thought about and have an idea yeah so yeah i like it i like the idea

yeah so yeah i like it i like the idea

yeah so yeah i like it i like the idea of doing two or three on the same day i

of doing two or three on the same day i

of doing two or three on the same day i like you got the consistency on the

like you got the consistency on the

like you got the consistency on the business one now i’d love to see the

business one now i’d love to see the

business one now i’d love to see the consistent let’s see on on the other one

consistent let’s see on on the other one

consistent let’s see on on the other one okay okay i love jose no has to make

okay okay i love jose no has to make

okay okay i love jose no has to make sure that our props are equal like is is

sure that our props are equal like is is

sure that our props are equal like is is there to make sure that the other side

there to make sure that the other side

there to make sure that the other side goes up and the cno’s like the same

goes up and the cno’s like the same

goes up and the cno’s like the same number and inside until somebody

number and inside until somebody

number and inside until somebody disrupts the force right and he’s gonna

disrupts the force right and he’s gonna

disrupts the force right and he’s gonna come back and make it right again okay

ok so here that’s running with a

ok so here that’s running with a question this is a content creation

question this is a content creation

question this is a content creation bring you value personally is it

bring you value personally is it

bring you value personally is it rewarding is it does it feel worthwhile

rewarding is it does it feel worthwhile

rewarding is it does it feel worthwhile absolutely for me um i love it i think

absolutely for me um i love it i think

absolutely for me um i love it i think it’s great to I don’t know I love being

it’s great to I don’t know I love being

it’s great to I don’t know I love being able to talk about it and I think it’s

able to talk about it and I think it’s

able to talk about it and I think it’s for personally I think it’s also helps

for personally I think it’s also helps

for personally I think it’s also helps clarify things for me so that what I’m

clarify things for me so that what I’m

clarify things for me so that what I’m out talking to customers I am making

out talking to customers I am making

out talking to customers I am making more sense to and also i use a lot of

more sense to and also i use a lot of

more sense to and also i use a lot of this is my personal life in fact so last

this is my personal life in fact so last

this is my personal life in fact so last weekend I had a fundraiser for my dance

weekend I had a fundraiser for my dance

weekend I had a fundraiser for my dance group that i’m a part of and one of the

group that i’m a part of and one of the

group that i’m a part of and one of the things that we did was a cakewalk and so

things that we did was a cakewalk and so

things that we did was a cakewalk and so we all baked a cake and then you know

we all baked a cake and then you know

we all baked a cake and then you know like each one of the the dancers baked a

like each one of the the dancers baked a

like each one of the the dancers baked a cake and then we know auction it off at

cake and then we know auction it off at

cake and then we know auction it off at the cake block right and so I was like

the cake block right and so I was like

the cake block right and so I was like hey this is grab beneath me to look at

hey this is grab beneath me to look at

hey this is grab beneath me to look at copywriting so I took pictures of all

copywriting so I took pictures of all

copywriting so I took pictures of all the cakes and I’m a little signs rich of

the cakes and I’m a little signs rich of

the cakes and I’m a little signs rich of the cakes and I was super fun and action

the cakes and I was super fun and action

the cakes and I was super fun and action was kind of funny i tried to facebook it

was kind of funny i tried to facebook it

was kind of funny i tried to facebook it and I totally messed up and posted it on

and I totally messed up and posted it on

and I totally messed up and posted it on our personal soul cages the same of are

our personal soul cages the same of are

our personal soul cages the same of are going to be a scripted soul and so I

going to be a scripted soul and so I

going to be a scripted soul and so I kind of messed up I didn’t like properly

kind of messed up I didn’t like properly

kind of messed up I didn’t like properly promote it like I should have so be more

promote it like I should have so be more

promote it like I should have so be more prepared but that’s my point is that i

prepared but that’s my point is that i

prepared but that’s my point is that i can use them the stuff i do in personal

can use them the stuff i do in personal

can use them the stuff i do in personal life for business as well and it helps

life for business as well and it helps

life for business as well and it helps me you know cross promotes helps me in

me you know cross promotes helps me in

me you know cross promotes helps me in both personal and it work cool and then

both personal and it work cool and then

both personal and it work cool and then so you mentioned you getting some

so you mentioned you getting some

so you mentioned you getting some comments and subscribers and feedback

comments and subscribers and feedback

comments and subscribers and feedback now starting on the channel yeah what

now starting on the channel yeah what

now starting on the channel yeah what what kind of feedback are you getting

what kind of feedback are you getting

what kind of feedback are you getting it’s mostly positive i think a lot of

it’s mostly positive i think a lot of

it’s mostly positive i think a lot of people just want to know more about

people just want to know more about

people just want to know more about something i’m talking about in depth

something i’m talking about in depth

something i’m talking about in depth they want to know about more of my

they want to know about more of my

they want to know about more of my process they want to know more about

process they want to know more about

process they want to know more about fantasy I’m still amazed by people who

fantasy I’m still amazed by people who

fantasy I’m still amazed by people who don’t fantasize and they’re like how do

don’t fantasize and they’re like how do

don’t fantasize and they’re like how do you thin Assize I’m like oh I don’t

you thin Assize I’m like oh I don’t

you thin Assize I’m like oh I don’t understand I don’t understand the

understand I don’t understand the

understand I don’t understand the question it hurts my head yeah but um

question it hurts my head yeah but um

question it hurts my head yeah but um but no they’re great questions questions

but no they’re great questions questions

but no they’re great questions questions I’ve never even think about but I think

I’ve never even think about but I think

I’ve never even think about but I think the cool thing about the videos is they

the cool thing about the videos is they

the cool thing about the videos is they really help people understand i’m

really help people understand i’m

really help people understand i’m talking about what’s fantasy because i

talking about what’s fantasy because i

talking about what’s fantasy because i think people sometimes disco power

think people sometimes disco power

think people sometimes disco power fantasy and copyright and related like I

fantasy and copyright and related like I

fantasy and copyright and related like I don’t get it and i think the videos help

don’t get it and i think the videos help

don’t get it and i think the videos help me communicate that and it helps them

me communicate that and it helps them

me communicate that and it helps them understand it so while the comments and

understand it so while the comments and

understand it so while the comments and questions are around that and around you

questions are around that and around you

questions are around that and around you know get an advice collaborate in which

know get an advice collaborate in which

know get an advice collaborate in which are great it’s great because it gives me

are great it’s great because it gives me

are great it’s great because it gives me more content to talk about and then so

more content to talk about and then so

more content to talk about and then so can you turn those into videos yeah yeah

can you turn those into videos yeah yeah

can you turn those into videos yeah yeah which I have done I

which I have done I

which I have done I in fact I have like three more videos of

in fact I have like three more videos of

in fact I have like three more videos of from past questions and comments that

from past questions and comments that

from past questions and comments that are slated that I’m going to be doing in

are slated that I’m going to be doing in

are slated that I’m going to be doing in the next couple weeks so um I gotta

the next couple weeks so um I gotta

the next couple weeks so um I gotta catch up now oh look like my world

catch up now oh look like my world

catch up now oh look like my world alright alright yeah guess so many

alright alright yeah guess so many

alright alright yeah guess so many questions or comments like you don’t

questions or comments like you don’t

questions or comments like you don’t even have to think about anymore the

even have to think about anymore the

even have to think about anymore the content right you just pull what they

content right you just pull what they

content right you just pull what they say there’s there is no more thinking

say there’s there is no more thinking

say there’s there is no more thinking it’s all requests that’s all requests um

it’s all requests that’s all requests um

it’s all requests that’s all requests um cool now like taking it back and looking

cool now like taking it back and looking

cool now like taking it back and looking about your business um can these be

about your business um can these be

about your business um can these be things that you show some of them to

things that you show some of them to

things that you show some of them to prospective clients there any of them is

prospective clients there any of them is

prospective clients there any of them is this only like helping people who want

this only like helping people who want

this only like helping people who want to learn copy or would would flock

to learn copy or would would flock

to learn copy or would would flock potential clients of yours be watching

potential clients of yours be watching

potential clients of yours be watching these and getting value from the two

these and getting value from the two

these and getting value from the two yeah I think they could I could probably

yeah I think they could I could probably

yeah I think they could I could probably be a little bit more strategic about the

be a little bit more strategic about the

be a little bit more strategic about the videos that produce and and think about

videos that produce and and think about

videos that produce and and think about okay what would be a great video that i

okay what would be a great video that i

okay what would be a great video that i can email to somebody who is a prospect

can email to somebody who is a prospect

can email to somebody who is a prospect right so yeah i probably could be a

right so yeah i probably could be a

right so yeah i probably could be a little bit more strategic about that but

little bit more strategic about that but

little bit more strategic about that but i definitely think that they there are

i definitely think that they there are

i definitely think that they there are some that I definitely think I could use

some that I definitely think I could use

some that I definitely think I could use and I have in the past like there’s a

and I have in the past like there’s a

and I have in the past like there’s a storytelling selling one and actually

storytelling selling one and actually

storytelling selling one and actually how about one of my my front page of my

how about one of my my front page of my

how about one of my my front page of my website but I actually want to update

website but I actually want to update

website but I actually want to update that I’d make it a little bit more

that I’d make it a little bit more

that I’d make it a little bit more relevant to someone who’s like new to my

relevant to someone who’s like new to my

relevant to someone who’s like new to my website so might be another great one I

website so might be another great one I

website so might be another great one I can do for the website in when I get

can do for the website in when I get

can do for the website in when I get email out to people that’s a great idea

email out to people that’s a great idea

email out to people that’s a great idea even the topics as you get as you get

even the topics as you get as you get

even the topics as you get as you get better like every video you get better

better like every video you get better

better like every video you get better more comfortable more practice right

more comfortable more practice right

more comfortable more practice right what a pair like last week’s compared to

what a pair like last week’s compared to

what a pair like last week’s compared to it the first one I remember my first one

it the first one I remember my first one

it the first one I remember my first one still be actually really good like

still be actually really good like

still be actually really good like compared to my first one I’ve managed

compared to my first one I’ve managed

compared to my first one I’ve managed and it’s a rock star um hey but like you

and it’s a rock star um hey but like you

and it’s a rock star um hey but like you may find yourself one and update that

may find yourself one and update that

may find yourself one and update that video a number of times uh right J reyez

video a number of times uh right J reyez

video a number of times uh right J reyez gives you all the talk to mike j reyez

gives you all the talk to mike j reyez

gives you all the talk to mike j reyez okay the prop yeah yeah props you gotta

okay the prop yeah yeah props you gotta

okay the prop yeah yeah props you gotta do damage or make my day

phalaris a little bit competing for

phalaris a little bit competing for probs yeah my last black we had like it

probs yeah my last black we had like it

probs yeah my last black we had like it was it was an hour long we’re like

was it was an hour long we’re like

was it was an hour long we’re like 20,000 props or something was crazy um

20,000 props or something was crazy um

20,000 props or something was crazy um yeah it’s an interesting platform uh yes

yeah it’s an interesting platform uh yes

yeah it’s an interesting platform uh yes you may find it what’s that as I’m

you may find it what’s that as I’m

you may find it what’s that as I’m digging this platform so far it’s fun

digging this platform so far it’s fun

digging this platform so far it’s fun cool yeah um so think about it be good

cool yeah um so think about it be good

cool yeah um so think about it be good to think of what videos you can put on

to think of what videos you can put on

to think of what videos you can put on your website so people who are visiting

your website so people who are visiting

your website so people who are visiting get a better sense of what you’re doing

get a better sense of what you’re doing

get a better sense of what you’re doing that is it ties into your channel and

that is it ties into your channel and

that is it ties into your channel and still is educational but then also

still is educational but then also

still is educational but then also provides a high-level overview uh-huh

provides a high-level overview uh-huh

provides a high-level overview uh-huh and that that may need to be updated

and that that may need to be updated

and that that may need to be updated like every six months every three months

like every six months every three months

like every six months every three months like as you get better you may be the

like as you get better you may be the

like as you get better you may be the same story that you tell but you’re not

same story that you tell but you’re not

same story that you tell but you’re not better at your my energetic maybe you

better at your my energetic maybe you

better at your my energetic maybe you use fantasy more and it you know it’s

use fantasy more and it you know it’s

use fantasy more and it you know it’s every time you tell the story you get

every time you tell the story you get

every time you tell the story you get better at telling that story you find

better at telling that story you find

better at telling that story you find more is nuances how you word it the

more is nuances how you word it the

more is nuances how you word it the intonation you just get better every

intonation you just get better every

intonation you just get better every time alright so that might be a cool

time alright so that might be a cool

time alright so that might be a cool thing to put on and also if you’re

thing to put on and also if you’re

thing to put on and also if you’re talking about I don’t if you have a page

talking about I don’t if you have a page

talking about I don’t if you have a page on your site that talks about your

on your site that talks about your

on your site that talks about your process and your your your as seven

process and your your your as seven

process and your your your as seven steps or whatever it is I don’t but that

steps or whatever it is I don’t but that

steps or whatever it is I don’t but that may good idea it’d be good to have a

may good idea it’d be good to have a

may good idea it’d be good to have a video on each one of them too uh huh uh

video on each one of them too uh huh uh

video on each one of them too uh huh uh from a content strategy on the website

from a content strategy on the website

from a content strategy on the website as well as on the YouTube channel it

as well as on the YouTube channel it

as well as on the YouTube channel it would be great to know here are my seven

would be great to know here are my seven

would be great to know here are my seven steps and here’s what each of the mean

steps and here’s what each of the mean

steps and here’s what each of the mean like you do a video on each this is this

like you do a video on each this is this

like you do a video on each this is this is generally not one is headline right

is generally not one is headline right

is generally not one is headline right one is call to action so three minutes

one is call to action so three minutes

one is call to action so three minutes on what a good call to action isn’t

on what a good call to action isn’t

on what a good call to action isn’t you’ve done you’ve done yeah call to

you’ve done you’ve done yeah call to

you’ve done you’ve done yeah call to action you’ve done headline I know those

action you’ve done headline I know those

action you’ve done headline I know those two but there’s others that I don’t

two but there’s others that I don’t

two but there’s others that I don’t remember if you did a quick video on

remember if you did a quick video on

remember if you did a quick video on each one of them wound up on your

each one of them wound up on your

each one of them wound up on your landing page and then also what you do

landing page and then also what you do

landing page and then also what you do future videos on YouTube channel you can

future videos on YouTube channel you can

future videos on YouTube channel you can reference it back and put a card or an

reference it back and put a card or an

reference it back and put a card or an annotation oh yeah it’s a great idea

annotation oh yeah it’s a great idea

annotation oh yeah it’s a great idea today we’re going to go deeper on called

today we’re going to go deeper on called

today we’re going to go deeper on called action you can watch main show video

action you can watch main show video

action you can watch main show video with the link above and then you go

with the link above and then you go

with the link above and then you go diving

diving

diving with an example right it unburied I have

with an example right it unburied I have

with an example right it unburied I have unburying content because there’s so

unburying content because there’s so

unburying content because there’s so much content people don’t go back on the

much content people don’t go back on the

much content people don’t go back on the channel to find those right um yeah you

channel to find those right um yeah you

channel to find those right um yeah you have so much youtube content what do you

have so much youtube content what do you

have so much youtube content what do you think about and this doesn’t have

think about and this doesn’t have

think about and this doesn’t have actually tossed around doing before

actually tossed around doing before

actually tossed around doing before instead of putting like outlets you know

instead of putting like outlets you know

instead of putting like outlets you know like there’s seven or eight things that

like there’s seven or eight things that

like there’s seven or eight things that are like part of my process first sales

are like part of my process first sales

are like part of my process first sales page what what if I’d like to the video

page what what if I’d like to the video

page what what if I’d like to the video series with the video on each one but

series with the video on each one but

series with the video on each one but then how they kind of an overview on my

then how they kind of an overview on my

then how they kind of an overview on my website that how do way to capture leads

website that how do way to capture leads

website that how do way to capture leads and then they have access to the videos

and then they have access to the videos

and then they have access to the videos you know for free if they if they saw

you know for free if they if they saw

you know for free if they if they saw Nina give me their email because I don’t

Nina give me their email because I don’t

Nina give me their email because I don’t have any really way right now to capture

have any really way right now to capture

have any really way right now to capture em I’m gonna do but it’s real general

em I’m gonna do but it’s real general

em I’m gonna do but it’s real general it’s like encouraging people to share

it’s like encouraging people to share

it’s like encouraging people to share their fantasy with me or people will

their fantasy with me or people will

their fantasy with me or people will contact me if they’re interesting

contact me if they’re interesting

contact me if they’re interesting copyright and they’ll just send it

copyright and they’ll just send it

copyright and they’ll just send it through that form um but other than that

through that form um but other than that

through that form um but other than that there’s no real web page setup yeah

there’s no real web page setup yeah

there’s no real web page setup yeah you’ll probably have to markets this I

you’ll probably have to markets this I

you’ll probably have to markets this I just talked with on the last Blood the

just talked with on the last Blood the

just talked with on the last Blood the guys who will respect you and pay you

guys who will respect you and pay you

guys who will respect you and pay you for the bigger projects are are usually

for the bigger projects are are usually

for the bigger projects are are usually unlikely to go through a newsletter

unlikely to go through a newsletter

unlikely to go through a newsletter filter process think base they may

filter process think base they may

filter process think base they may because you’re not dealing with massive

because you’re not dealing with massive

because you’re not dealing with massive clients but I think of you know for my

clients but I think of you know for my

clients but I think of you know for my big deals when i sell the microsoft or

big deals when i sell the microsoft or

big deals when i sell the microsoft or dell or any of these companies they

dell or any of these companies they

dell or any of these companies they never they didn’t find me through my

never they didn’t find me through my

never they didn’t find me through my newsletter and then they got dripped

newsletter and then they got dripped

newsletter and then they got dripped content and then right they have a need

content and then right they have a need

content and then right they have a need they’re like okay who’s who’s talking

they’re like okay who’s who’s talking

they’re like okay who’s who’s talking about entrepreneurship okay Oh Evan okay

about entrepreneurship okay Oh Evan okay

about entrepreneurship okay Oh Evan okay let’s let’s bring them on and get a call

let’s let’s bring them on and get a call

let’s let’s bring them on and get a call going like they have a need they want to

going like they have a need they want to

going like they have a need they want to solve it I’m talking for those clients

solve it I’m talking for those clients

solve it I’m talking for those clients that’s it’s consistently putting out

that’s it’s consistently putting out

that’s it’s consistently putting out content so that when they are searching

content so that when they are searching

content so that when they are searching for copywriters your name comes up or if

for copywriters your name comes up or if

for copywriters your name comes up or if they ask their friends they oh this

they ask their friends they oh this

they ask their friends they oh this person you got to go talk to them oh and

person you got to go talk to them oh and

person you got to go talk to them oh and it’s just like sheer volume of content

it’s just like sheer volume of content

it’s just like sheer volume of content plus quality stuff and so like any more

plus quality stuff and so like any more

plus quality stuff and so like any more you produce the more you grow your

you produce the more you grow your

you produce the more you grow your catalog and

catalog and

catalog and better you get at doing this the more

better you get at doing this the more

better you get at doing this the more likely you’re going to get clients

likely you’re going to get clients

likely you’re going to get clients finding you and wanted to do some kind

finding you and wanted to do some kind

finding you and wanted to do some kind of deal together the newsletter strategy

of deal together the newsletter strategy

of deal together the newsletter strategy can work it’s usually it’s usually at

can work it’s usually it’s usually at

can work it’s usually it’s usually at the lower end it’s usually like uh it’s

the lower end it’s usually like uh it’s

the lower end it’s usually like uh it’s usually like as guys who don’t have an

usually like as guys who don’t have an

usually like as guys who don’t have an immediate need if they hadn’t reckoned

immediate need if they hadn’t reckoned

immediate need if they hadn’t reckoned they had a budget they would hire you so

they had a budget they would hire you so

they had a budget they would hire you so as people right media need or they don’t

as people right media need or they don’t

as people right media need or they don’t have budget right or they want to do it

have budget right or they want to do it

have budget right or they want to do it themselves and I just kind of want

themselves and I just kind of want

themselves and I just kind of want advice on how to do it invitation so

advice on how to do it invitation so

advice on how to do it invitation so like I don’t know if that’s a strategy

like I don’t know if that’s a strategy

like I don’t know if that’s a strategy that you want to pursue like if you are

that you want to pursue like if you are

that you want to pursue like if you are then creating if your longer-term vision

then creating if your longer-term vision

then creating if your longer-term vision was I want to create a copywriting

was I want to create a copywriting

was I want to create a copywriting course I want to teach people how to be

course I want to teach people how to be

course I want to teach people how to be great copywriters inject financing to

great copywriters inject financing to

great copywriters inject financing to what they’re doing have a book to sell

what they’re doing have a book to sell

what they’re doing have a book to sell or udemy online course or whatever it is

or udemy online course or whatever it is

or udemy online course or whatever it is oh that’s definitely something that you

oh that’s definitely something that you

oh that’s definitely something that you should pursue right like my business is

should pursue right like my business is

should pursue right like my business is I do the I do the high-end clients and I

I do the I do the high-end clients and I

I do the I do the high-end clients and I do the masses right like right your

do the masses right like right your

do the masses right like right your ginger um so I don’t know where you want

ginger um so I don’t know where you want

ginger um so I don’t know where you want to take you with your business like I’ve

to take you with your business like I’ve

to take you with your business like I’ve never would never talked about that

never would never talked about that

never would never talked about that angle i don’t–that’s on your radar

angle i don’t–that’s on your radar

angle i don’t–that’s on your radar that’s the biggest or not or if it’s

that’s the biggest or not or if it’s

that’s the biggest or not or if it’s just I want to work with clients um yeah

just I want to work with clients um yeah

just I want to work with clients um yeah I think it’s of interest like long term

I think it’s of interest like long term

I think it’s of interest like long term for sure yeah i think it is and i also

for sure yeah i think it is and i also

for sure yeah i think it is and i also think to there’s something to a small

think to there’s something to a small

think to there’s something to a small business owner that might like think

business owner that might like think

business owner that might like think they want to write copy themselves right

they want to write copy themselves right

they want to write copy themselves right now and then once they started like I

now and then once they started like I

now and then once they started like I don’t want to do this or they don’t like

don’t want to do this or they don’t like

don’t want to do this or they don’t like it or it’s like a temporary solution

it or it’s like a temporary solution

it or it’s like a temporary solution until they can grow their business more

until they can grow their business more

until they can grow their business more and then they might hire a copywriter so

and then they might hire a copywriter so

and then they might hire a copywriter so I can see that being helpful with the

I can see that being helpful with the

I can see that being helpful with the newsletter strategy getting cooperating

newsletter strategy getting cooperating

newsletter strategy getting cooperating tips unit I mean until they can grow

tips unit I mean until they can grow

tips unit I mean until they can grow more I don’t know though I mean I think

more I don’t know though I mean I think

more I don’t know though I mean I think you’re right though I think most people

you’re right though I think most people

you’re right though I think most people to have contacted me they like they have

to have contacted me they like they have

to have contacted me they like they have immediate need they saw YouTube video or

immediate need they saw YouTube video or

immediate need they saw YouTube video or they read my beam out one of my blog

they read my beam out one of my blog

they read my beam out one of my blog posts or they just heard about me

posts or they just heard about me

posts or they just heard about me somehow for a friend and they’re like I

somehow for a friend and they’re like I

somehow for a friend and they’re like I knew copywriting I want to hire you yeah

knew copywriting I want to hire you yeah

knew copywriting I want to hire you yeah it’s really hard to grow with your

it’s really hard to grow with your

it’s really hard to grow with your client

client

client um sometimes it happens and it can but

um sometimes it happens and it can but

um sometimes it happens and it can but it’s only select few like it’s hard to

it’s only select few like it’s hard to

it’s only select few like it’s hard to have it as a bankable strategy to say

have it as a bankable strategy to say

have it as a bankable strategy to say like okay I’m going to go out and get

like okay I’m going to go out and get

like okay I’m going to go out and get all these startups and then I’m going to

all these startups and then I’m going to

all these startups and then I’m going to work with them and give them copy

work with them and give them copy

work with them and give them copy writing tips and in the future when they

writing tips and in the future when they

writing tips and in the future when they grow they’re going to be able to afford

grow they’re going to be able to afford

grow they’re going to be able to afford to hire me most of them won’t grow right

to hire me most of them won’t grow right

to hire me most of them won’t grow right like you got to be super selective on

like you got to be super selective on

like you got to be super selective on who you work with because most of them

who you work with because most of them

who you work with because most of them won’t grow and the curse of

won’t grow and the curse of

won’t grow and the curse of entrepreneurship of selling the

entrepreneurship of selling the

entrepreneurship of selling the entrepreneurs is they don’t have budgets

entrepreneurs is they don’t have budgets

entrepreneurs is they don’t have budgets right and you want your words right look

right and you want your words right look

right and you want your words right look and it is you like you have a you’ve

and it is you like you have a you’ve

and it is you like you have a you’ve attachment and they’re on a good mission

attachment and they’re on a good mission

attachment and they’re on a good mission and you love what they’re doing and

and you love what they’re doing and

and you love what they’re doing and maybe a portion of what you do is oh I

maybe a portion of what you do is oh I

maybe a portion of what you do is oh I mean this is who I work with constantly

mean this is who I work with constantly

mean this is who I work with constantly I face that battle to where like I can

I face that battle to where like I can

I face that battle to where like I can only I only have so many hours in the

only I only have so many hours in the

only I only have so many hours in the day I solve it through mass content like

day I solve it through mass content like

day I solve it through mass content like this right like well creating videos

this right like well creating videos

this right like well creating videos where people can tune in and ask

where people can tune in and ask

where people can tune in and ask questions and learn so they may not get

questions and learn so they may not get

questions and learn so they may not get access to me one-on-one but they can

access to me one-on-one but they can

access to me one-on-one but they can learn from osmosis and by hanging around

learn from osmosis and by hanging around

learn from osmosis and by hanging around and watching the videos um you know so

and watching the videos um you know so

and watching the videos um you know so it’s thinking longer term is your goal

it’s thinking longer term is your goal

it’s thinking longer term is your goal to be a a personality and to have a mass

to be a a personality and to have a mass

to be a a personality and to have a mass following like you want a mass following

following like you want a mass following

following like you want a mass following or do you want a niche following um you

or do you want a niche following um you

or do you want a niche following um you know if you want to write a book for

know if you want to write a book for

know if you want to write a book for example right like you’re damn right way

example right like you’re damn right way

example right like you’re damn right way if you book then part of that is I need

if you book then part of that is I need

if you book then part of that is I need to follow it like who’s gonna buy the

to follow it like who’s gonna buy the

to follow it like who’s gonna buy the book because that you want to get a

book because that you want to get a

book because that you want to get a publisher on board they want uh to see

publisher on board they want uh to see

publisher on board they want uh to see that like now it’s all about can this

that like now it’s all about can this

that like now it’s all about can this author sell the book because we don’t

author sell the book because we don’t

author sell the book because we don’t know how to sell books it’s all about

know how to sell books it’s all about

know how to sell books it’s all about the author um so having a big audience

the author um so having a big audience

the author um so having a big audience makes a big difference there uh and if

makes a big difference there uh and if

makes a big difference there uh and if that’s the goal to just like I’m going

that’s the goal to just like I’m going

that’s the goal to just like I’m going down on this tangent ya know it’s great

down on this tangent ya know it’s great

down on this tangent ya know it’s great is the audience that you’re building on

is the audience that you’re building on

is the audience that you’re building on your channel relevant to the audience

your channel relevant to the audience

your channel relevant to the audience would buy your book right because if

would buy your book right because if

would buy your book right because if you’re giving copy writing tips that’s a

you’re giving copy writing tips that’s a

you’re giving copy writing tips that’s a different audience and the people who

different audience and the people who

different audience and the people who are going to want to buy a book about

are going to want to buy a book about

are going to want to buy a book about people doing magical things with their

people doing magical things with their

people doing magical things with their hands

hands

hands right right some people will overlap

right right some people will overlap

right right some people will overlap just because I love gin I love you know

just because I love gin I love you know

just because I love gin I love you know I went and wrote a book on

I went and wrote a book on

I went and wrote a book on entrepreneurship it has a high

entrepreneurship it has a high

entrepreneurship it has a high likelihood to sell to my audience right

likelihood to sell to my audience right

likelihood to sell to my audience right if I write a book about salsa dancing

if I write a book about salsa dancing

if I write a book about salsa dancing which I know a lot about how many of my

which I know a lot about how many of my

which I know a lot about how many of my audience would buy it it’s just it’s a

audience would buy it it’s just it’s a

audience would buy it it’s just it’s a disconnect right right if that was the

disconnect right right if that was the

disconnect right right if that was the goal i would start building a salsa

goal i would start building a salsa

goal i would start building a salsa audience of people who love that and

audience of people who love that and

audience of people who love that and want to learn about that all right so

want to learn about that all right so

want to learn about that all right so interesting it so would you recommend

interesting it so would you recommend

interesting it so would you recommend then if I because that’s one thing I do

then if I because that’s one thing I do

then if I because that’s one thing I do want to start doing is going back to

want to start doing is going back to

want to start doing is going back to doing more of my book fantasy videos I

doing more of my book fantasy videos I

doing more of my book fantasy videos I mean I have it on a separate playlist

mean I have it on a separate playlist

mean I have it on a separate playlist but would you recommend out maybe a

but would you recommend out maybe a

but would you recommend out maybe a whole new channel for that yeah so I

whole new channel for that yeah so I

whole new channel for that yeah so I honestly i would say it depends on where

honestly i would say it depends on where

honestly i would say it depends on where you are uh in your life and how much you

you are uh in your life and how much you

you are uh in your life and how much you can afford the experiment um you look at

can afford the experiment um you look at

can afford the experiment um you look at zenos comment there Zeno’s a hardcore

zenos comment there Zeno’s a hardcore

zenos comment there Zeno’s a hardcore fan okay awesome i love it Zeno’s

fan okay awesome i love it Zeno’s

fan okay awesome i love it Zeno’s American man he was on he’s on on two

American man he was on he’s on on two

American man he was on he’s on on two sessions today he come in son almost

sessions today he come in son almost

sessions today he come in son almost every video it loves and stuff right and

every video it loves and stuff right and

every video it loves and stuff right and if he asked me a question you know he

if he asked me a question you know he

if he asked me a question you know he has my attention I would answer it no

has my attention I would answer it no

has my attention I would answer it no problem I would not buy a book of us to

problem I would not buy a book of us to

problem I would not buy a book of us to be on his sorry I’m right like yeah hes

be on his sorry I’m right like yeah hes

be on his sorry I’m right like yeah hes a hardcore fan i have a lot of clout

a hardcore fan i have a lot of clout

a hardcore fan i have a lot of clout with him you know and he would not buy

with him you know and he would not buy

with him you know and he would not buy that book right oh so I mean some people

that book right oh so I mean some people

that book right oh so I mean some people would just destroy but you know it’s uh

would just destroy but you know it’s uh

would just destroy but you know it’s uh it’s a hard sorry it’s a hard hard

it’s a hard sorry it’s a hard hard

it’s a hard sorry it’s a hard hard market to build up so like if you had

market to build up so like if you had

market to build up so like if you had extra time as an example oh then you

extra time as an example oh then you

extra time as an example oh then you could start on these parallel paths and

could start on these parallel paths and

could start on these parallel paths and like we’re talking about now do we have

like we’re talking about now do we have

like we’re talking about now do we have enough time with my videos a week on my

enough time with my videos a week on my

enough time with my videos a week on my regular channel now I got to do a new

regular channel now I got to do a new

regular channel now I got to do a new channel do this um I think there can be

channel do this um I think there can be

channel do this um I think there can be a little bit of overlap I’m like I

a little bit of overlap I’m like I

a little bit of overlap I’m like I talked about salsa dancing from a

talked about salsa dancing from a

talked about salsa dancing from a business contacts I’m right on my

business contacts I’m right on my

business contacts I’m right on my business channel and I’ll share stories

business channel and I’ll share stories

business channel and I’ll share stories about hiring the team when working with

about hiring the team when working with

about hiring the team when working with this company and whatever right I it’s

this company and whatever right I it’s

this company and whatever right I it’s always the mighty two channels on

always the mighty two channels on

always the mighty two channels on reflection of what I do and who I am

reflection of what I do and who I am

reflection of what I do and who I am so sauce is now a big part of it I bring

so sauce is now a big part of it I bring

so sauce is now a big part of it I bring into the channel but I don’t have how to

into the channel but I don’t have how to

into the channel but I don’t have how to dance sauce I think I have like one

dance sauce I think I have like one

dance sauce I think I have like one video on there about that the rest is

video on there about that the rest is

video on there about that the rest is just business context if you only wrote

just business context if you only wrote

just business context if you only wrote south so you can go to the salsa channel

south so you can go to the salsa channel

south so you can go to the salsa channel and learn about that I like that there

and learn about that I like that there

and learn about that I like that there is some bleed or does it give greater

is some bleed or does it give greater

is some bleed or does it give greater context understanding but if I started

context understanding but if I started

context understanding but if I started posting half of my videos salsa on my

posting half of my videos salsa on my

posting half of my videos salsa on my youtube channel and half of them

youtube channel and half of them

youtube channel and half of them business I would lose everybody like I

business I would lose everybody like I

business I would lose everybody like I don’t get more salsa and business fans

don’t get more salsa and business fans

don’t get more salsa and business fans which is a this audience for that but

which is a this audience for that but

which is a this audience for that but it’s a lot smaller so it feels like a

it’s a lot smaller so it feels like a

it’s a lot smaller so it feels like a place where would be another channel in

place where would be another channel in

place where would be another channel in their channel but I worry about your

their channel but I worry about your

their channel but I worry about your time and I want you to make your

time and I want you to make your

time and I want you to make your copywriting business a success and get

copywriting business a success and get

copywriting business a success and get the clients that you’re looking for in

the clients that you’re looking for in

the clients that you’re looking for in need I maybe build if you’re me I

need I maybe build if you’re me I

need I maybe build if you’re me I probably get it to the point where I

probably get it to the point where I

probably get it to the point where I could afford to build a bit of a team on

could afford to build a bit of a team on

could afford to build a bit of a team on the YouTube channel especially take the

the YouTube channel especially take the

the YouTube channel especially take the editing my way yes so if you could just

editing my way yes so if you could just

editing my way yes so if you could just show up on the Monday or Tuesday with

show up on the Monday or Tuesday with

show up on the Monday or Tuesday with your washing machine or maybe a 45 you

your washing machine or maybe a 45 you

your washing machine or maybe a 45 you know have you try pod you have your

know have you try pod you have your

know have you try pod you have your setup you have an editor he’s not a full

setup you have an editor he’s not a full

setup you have an editor he’s not a full time I don’t just somebody to do yeah um

time I don’t just somebody to do yeah um

time I don’t just somebody to do yeah um then that frees up your time to then do

then that frees up your time to then do

then that frees up your time to then do other things that you’re great at and

other things that you’re great at and

other things that you’re great at and could be starting this new YouTube

could be starting this new YouTube

could be starting this new YouTube channel until then and you have to do

channel until then and you have to do

channel until then and you have to do what’s right I just feel like it’s just

what’s right I just feel like it’s just

what’s right I just feel like it’s just trying to water too many clients and

trying to water too many clients and

trying to water too many clients and then nothing gets really watered and

then nothing gets really watered and

then nothing gets really watered and everything kind of just doesn’t grow um

everything kind of just doesn’t grow um

everything kind of just doesn’t grow um yeah I told you mean I don’t miss for

yeah I told you mean I don’t miss for

yeah I told you mean I don’t miss for myself too thin I also wonder too it’s

myself too thin I also wonder too it’s

myself too thin I also wonder too it’s kind of almost opposite if your business

kind of almost opposite if your business

kind of almost opposite if your business in that though that like I feel like my

in that though that like I feel like my

in that though that like I feel like my copyright is more niche and the book is

copyright is more niche and the book is

copyright is more niche and the book is more of a mass interest maybe I don’t

more of a mass interest maybe I don’t

more of a mass interest maybe I don’t know but I could be wrong like maybe

know but I could be wrong like maybe

know but I could be wrong like maybe maybe I got that off and and maybe and I

maybe I got that off and and maybe and I

maybe I got that off and and maybe and I you’re right I kind of dude some overlap

you’re right I kind of dude some overlap

you’re right I kind of dude some overlap like I talked about how writing for a

like I talked about how writing for a

like I talked about how writing for a book can be similar to writing for copy

book can be similar to writing for copy

book can be similar to writing for copy but it is I mean you’re right i think

but it is I mean you’re right i think

but it is I mean you’re right i think people who are just my cover and are

people who are just my cover and are

people who are just my cover and are going to be either potential comp like

going to be either potential comp like

going to be either potential comp like want to be copywriters or business

want to be copywriters or business

want to be copywriters or business owners

owners

owners who may want to hire me or write their

who may want to hire me or write their

who may want to hire me or write their own copy so it is different for sure

own copy so it is different for sure

own copy so it is different for sure totally different content yeah I don’t

totally different content yeah I don’t

totally different content yeah I don’t honestly know like that the group that

honestly know like that the group that

honestly know like that the group that you left out is is corporate like I

you left out is is corporate like I

you left out is is corporate like I don’t that may be your biggest market of

don’t that may be your biggest market of

don’t that may be your biggest market of all not targeting obviously not

all not targeting obviously not

all not targeting obviously not copywriters granite mmm business owners

copywriters granite mmm business owners

copywriters granite mmm business owners it’s a select group would be willing to

it’s a select group would be willing to

it’s a select group would be willing to spend on a copywriter um but it be I

spend on a copywriter um but it be I

spend on a copywriter um but it be I think corporate like people running

think corporate like people running

think corporate like people running campaigns who need something different

campaigns who need something different

campaigns who need something different they’re not getting results like you

they’re not getting results like you

they’re not getting results like you walked in i forget the store you walked

walked in i forget the store you walked

walked in i forget the store you walked into when you analyze their signs and

into when you analyze their signs and

into when you analyze their signs and thought they were terrible yeah that

thought they were terrible yeah that

thought they were terrible yeah that company should be the one hiring you so

company should be the one hiring you so

company should be the one hiring you so you’re dealing with like a marketing vp

you’re dealing with like a marketing vp

you’re dealing with like a marketing vp of marketing or communications oh I

of marketing or communications oh I

of marketing or communications oh I think that’s my much better angle and

think that’s my much better angle and

think that’s my much better angle and then so that’s the audience then does

then so that’s the audience then does

then so that’s the audience then does your content speak to them now as much

your content speak to them now as much

your content speak to them now as much as I love entrepreneurs like I’m the

as I love entrepreneurs like I’m the

as I love entrepreneurs like I’m the entrepreneur guy I don’t think you’re

entrepreneur guy I don’t think you’re

entrepreneur guy I don’t think you’re going to get the lifestyle and the

going to get the lifestyle and the

going to get the lifestyle and the growth that you want trying to sell

growth that you want trying to sell

growth that you want trying to sell high-end services to entrepreneurs who

high-end services to entrepreneurs who

high-end services to entrepreneurs who may love it and appreciate you to death

may love it and appreciate you to death

may love it and appreciate you to death but can’t afford it right well I think

but can’t afford it right well I think

but can’t afford it right well I think there’s there’s like there’s some other

there’s there’s like there’s some other

there’s there’s like there’s some other between corporate and like a small

between corporate and like a small

between corporate and like a small business owner I feel like there’s that

business owner I feel like there’s that

business owner I feel like there’s that like I just said Jay rises question to

like I just said Jay rises question to

like I just said Jay rises question to work with bold leaders Portland style

work with bold leaders Portland style

work with bold leaders Portland style absolutely i love to work with bold

absolutely i love to work with bold

absolutely i love to work with bold leaders and I feel like they’re there

leaders and I feel like they’re there

leaders and I feel like they’re there are businesses out there that have a you

are businesses out there that have a you

are businesses out there that have a you know like they’re not small and I might

know like they’re not small and I might

know like they’re not small and I might be like the local business owner in

be like the local business owner in

be like the local business owner in Portland they’re not like a huge

Portland they’re not like a huge

Portland they’re not like a huge corporate client per se but there

corporate client per se but there

corporate client per se but there because I feel like a lot of what a lot

because I feel like a lot of what a lot

because I feel like a lot of what a lot of corporate clients do is they hire

of corporate clients do is they hire

of corporate clients do is they hire agencies that means I’ve been working

agencies that means I’ve been working

agencies that means I’ve been working with the agency you know it’s some kind

with the agency you know it’s some kind

with the agency you know it’s some kind of reduced rate because they have all

of reduced rate because they have all

of reduced rate because they have all these access to co-operators and that

these access to co-operators and that

these access to co-operators and that you know I think having a relationship

you know I think having a relationship

you know I think having a relationship with someone has a bold leader you know

with someone has a bold leader you know

with someone has a bold leader you know like yourself for example right who’s

like yourself for example right who’s

like yourself for example right who’s willing to pay for a copywriter it’s not

willing to pay for a copywriter it’s not

willing to pay for a copywriter it’s not necessarily a small business owner but

necessarily a small business owner but

necessarily a small business owner but you’re right that’s it that’s a really

you’re right that’s it that’s a really

you’re right that’s it that’s a really good thing I really should have down

good thing I really should have down

good thing I really should have down right who’s my target calling it and who

right who’s my target calling it and who

right who’s my target calling it and who should I go after and that will help

should I go after and that will help

should I go after and that will help determine what I’m do with my channel I

determine what I’m do with my channel I

determine what I’m do with my channel I like as you talked about me being a bold

like as you talked about me being a bold

like as you talked about me being a bold leader the Sun like came through the win

leader the Sun like came through the win

leader the Sun like came through the win I’m on it up then I’m feeling problem

I’m on it up then I’m feeling problem

I’m on it up then I’m feeling problem first all right I like it um yeah it you

first all right I like it um yeah it you

first all right I like it um yeah it you know still thinking about someone who

know still thinking about someone who

know still thinking about someone who has a team and somebody who is doing

has a team and somebody who is doing

has a team and somebody who is doing bold things it just may not always be

bold things it just may not always be

bold things it just may not always be the entrepreneur it may be a politician

the entrepreneur it may be a politician

the entrepreneur it may be a politician it maybe it maybe somebody who is at a

it maybe it maybe somebody who is at a

it maybe it maybe somebody who is at a company I they may be tired of their

company I they may be tired of their

company I they may be tired of their agencies like i displace agencies and

agencies like i displace agencies and

agencies like i displace agencies and when I work with them it’s not at the

when I work with them it’s not at the

when I work with them it’s not at the discounted rate you know like it’s right

discounted rate you know like it’s right

discounted rate you know like it’s right why are you different so different than

why are you different so different than

why are you different so different than these guys that that are not producing

these guys that that are not producing

these guys that that are not producing the results okay well that’s the key so

the results okay well that’s the key so

the results okay well that’s the key so um yeah and they’re right and agencies

um yeah and they’re right and agencies

um yeah and they’re right and agencies might be willing to pay more too because

might be willing to pay more too because

might be willing to pay more too because they’re working a client budget such as

they’re working a client budget such as

they’re working a client budget such as pence on yeah like you said I do feel

pence on yeah like you said I do feel

pence on yeah like you said I do feel like why I’m different they like my work

like why I’m different they like my work

like why I’m different they like my work if they think it’s warranted pay more

if they think it’s warranted pay more

if they think it’s warranted pay more money for right um yeah I just yeah

money for right um yeah I just yeah

money for right um yeah I just yeah coming from the agency I worked for a

coming from the agency I worked for a

coming from the agency I worked for a couple different agencies and I kind of

couple different agencies and I kind of

couple different agencies and I kind of know sometimes how they think and they

know sometimes how they think and they

know sometimes how they think and they like to sometimes you know hire someone

like to sometimes you know hire someone

like to sometimes you know hire someone who in paying out a lot of money so they

who in paying out a lot of money so they

who in paying out a lot of money so they can then keep a lot of that profit when

can then keep a lot of that profit when

can then keep a lot of that profit when I pass on the cost of client right so

I pass on the cost of client right so

I pass on the cost of client right so it’s establishing good relationship

it’s establishing good relationship

it’s establishing good relationship dress up the client if I can yeah I have

dress up the client if I can yeah I have

dress up the client if I can yeah I have a mixed relationship with agencies I

a mixed relationship with agencies I

a mixed relationship with agencies I don’t want to throw them all under the

don’t want to throw them all under the

don’t want to throw them all under the bus yeah I told ya the same thing with

bus yeah I told ya the same thing with

bus yeah I told ya the same thing with brands like most brands that want to

brands like most brands that want to

brands like most brands that want to work with me I we can’t work together

work with me I we can’t work together

work with me I we can’t work together like they’re the witches don’t align

like they’re the witches don’t align

like they’re the witches don’t align they just want me to pitch their stuff

they just want me to pitch their stuff

they just want me to pitch their stuff when I haven’t even used it or know it

when I haven’t even used it or know it

when I haven’t even used it or know it or care about it and they’re very

or care about it and they’re very

or care about it and they’re very transactional and so I end up turning

transactional and so I end up turning

transactional and so I end up turning away a lot of deals that I could make

away a lot of deals that I could make

away a lot of deals that I could make you know some good money with but just

you know some good money with but just

you know some good money with but just it’s not in the long-term best interest

it’s not in the long-term best interest

it’s not in the long-term best interest and they won’t get the results they’re

and they won’t get the results they’re

and they won’t get the results they’re looking for either um I think when

looking for either um I think when

looking for either um I think when people clearly understand your

people clearly understand your

people clearly understand your difference then they’re coming to you

difference then they’re coming to you

difference then they’re coming to you with a specific goal so you’re not just

with a specific goal so you’re not just

with a specific goal so you’re not just let’s get a copywriter right let’s get

let’s get a copywriter right let’s get

let’s get a copywriter right let’s get somebody to write an article about small

somebody to write an article about small

somebody to write an article about small business tons of people could write that

business tons of people could write that

business tons of people could write that right you know that’s not me like if you

right you know that’s not me like if you

right you know that’s not me like if you don’t have

don’t have

don’t have a series of 42 doing this and a budget

a series of 42 doing this and a budget

a series of 42 doing this and a budget I’m not the guy to work with right and I

I’m not the guy to work with right and I

I’m not the guy to work with right and I love that yes it’s like yeah like the

love that yes it’s like yeah like the

love that yes it’s like yeah like the equivalent right you just tons of

equivalent right you just tons of

equivalent right you just tons of copywriters great that you can’t be just

copywriters great that you can’t be just

copywriters great that you can’t be just any copywriter and if you are really

any copywriter and if you are really

any copywriter and if you are really clear about that and your difference and

clear about that and your difference and

clear about that and your difference and people how I mark it is i’m not really

people how I mark it is i’m not really

people how I mark it is i’m not really the salesperson I’m not the guy knocking

the salesperson I’m not the guy knocking

the salesperson I’m not the guy knocking on doors and saying hey buy my stuff or

on doors and saying hey buy my stuff or

on doors and saying hey buy my stuff or born in networking of answering that

born in networking of answering that

born in networking of answering that it’s all it’s through marketing I’m much

it’s all it’s through marketing I’m much

it’s all it’s through marketing I’m much more Wow where’d you go shoot i don’t

more Wow where’d you go shoot i don’t

more Wow where’d you go shoot i don’t know if i’m not on your gun can you see

know if i’m not on your gun can you see

know if i’m not on your gun can you see me okay what happened to him i’m still

me okay what happened to him i’m still

me okay what happened to him i’m still here but what he was saying was wrong

here but what he was saying was wrong

here but what he was saying was wrong with what Jason said was do these guys

with what Jason said was do these guys

with what Jason said was do these guys use fantasy effectively you’re right i

use fantasy effectively you’re right i

use fantasy effectively you’re right i mean like that’s what i need to promote

mean like that’s what i need to promote

mean like that’s what i need to promote as my fantasy abilities and I can’t okay

as my fantasy abilities and I can’t okay

as my fantasy abilities and I can’t okay it’s evidence in charge of this blab

it’s evidence in charge of this blab

it’s evidence in charge of this blab what do i do I don’t know what to do ah

yes give props mmm and if i should start

yes give props mmm and if i should start over we should start a new blob I guess

over we should start a new blob I guess

over we should start a new blob I guess we should probably wrap it up soon

we should probably wrap it up soon

we should probably wrap it up soon anyway right Jason stop it on hey day

anyway right Jason stop it on hey day

anyway right Jason stop it on hey day what’s up your me again there we go yo

what’s up your me again there we go yo

what’s up your me again there we go yo yo are you with Evan right now hell no

yo are you with Evan right now hell no

yo are you with Evan right now hell no okay Yuri Oh like

that’s awesome you popped on anything

that’s awesome you popped on anything you can pop on and Lance escamole drug

you can pop on and Lance escamole drug

you can pop on and Lance escamole drug that is cool I think ever had to click

that is cool I think ever had to click

that is cool I think ever had to click yes though okay gotcha oh yeah I think

yes though okay gotcha oh yeah I think

yes though okay gotcha oh yeah I think you’re right because i read about lab

you’re right because i read about lab

you’re right because i read about lab all right I’ve been this is I I can’t

all right I’ve been this is I I can’t

all right I’ve been this is I I can’t see J reyez either but feel like this

see J reyez either but feel like this

see J reyez either but feel like this session is rocking but let’s get it back

session is rocking but let’s get it back

session is rocking but let’s get it back on track uh-un Evan we’re talking about

on track uh-un Evan we’re talking about

on track uh-un Evan we’re talking about agencies and brands and targets so you

agencies and brands and targets so you

agencies and brands and targets so you want to elaborate yeah well I just think

want to elaborate yeah well I just think

want to elaborate yeah well I just think he had a good point which is you know he

he had a good point which is you know he

he had a good point which is you know he was talking about like basically I have

was talking about like basically I have

was talking about like basically I have something that somebody else doesn’t and

something that somebody else doesn’t and

something that somebody else doesn’t and that’s why they would hire me yeah and

that’s why they would hire me yeah and

that’s why they would hire me yeah and what I’m gonna pay more because they’re

what I’m gonna pay more because they’re

what I’m gonna pay more because they’re looking for something that I have which

looking for something that I have which

looking for something that I have which is famous Steve right so I need to UM do

is famous Steve right so I need to UM do

is famous Steve right so I need to UM do better job communicating that and so

better job communicating that and so

better job communicating that and so that people will hire me for that think

that people will hire me for that think

that people will hire me for that think that I have it nobody else has yeah so

that I have it nobody else has yeah so

that I have it nobody else has yeah so what it’s not what are some good ways

what it’s not what are some good ways

what it’s not what are some good ways you can clarify that for people um I

you can clarify that for people um I

you can clarify that for people um I could do that through my youtube channel

could do that through my youtube channel

could do that through my youtube channel alter my website better I could do it um

alter my website better I could do it um

alter my website better I could do it um you know everything that i do i feel

you know everything that i do i feel

you know everything that i do i feel like i do a decent job with social media

like i do a decent job with social media

like i do a decent job with social media but I can you know I can do better job I

but I can you know I can do better job I

but I can you know I can do better job I website that for sure like mine mo said

website that for sure like mine mo said

website that for sure like mine mo said his work big time uh Zeno is saying F

his work big time uh Zeno is saying F

his work big time uh Zeno is saying F and where’d you go I miss you so it’s

and where’d you go I miss you so it’s

and where’d you go I miss you so it’s like being it’s been forever that you

like being it’s been forever that you

like being it’s been forever that you didn’t feel like taking a shower

didn’t feel like taking a shower

didn’t feel like taking a shower guardian I know I totally does that’s

guardian I know I totally does that’s

guardian I know I totally does that’s almost a wrap hey put your poet no no it

almost a wrap hey put your poet no no it

almost a wrap hey put your poet no no it if you have a kid I found going to Z no

if you have a kid I found going to Z no

if you have a kid I found going to Z no I don’t know if you want to remake the

I don’t know if you want to remake the

I don’t know if you want to remake the remake the video evident like it says

remake the video evident like it says

remake the video evident like it says shows he’s talking there’s some kind of

shows he’s talking there’s some kind of

shows he’s talking there’s some kind of a pulse I know it’s like boo boo boo I

a pulse I know it’s like boo boo boo I

a pulse I know it’s like boo boo boo I don’t know if I don’t know what it is

don’t know if I don’t know what it is

don’t know if I don’t know what it is magically magic of lab all right well

magically magic of lab all right well

magically magic of lab all right well what time is it sessions over any luck

what time is it sessions over any luck

what time is it sessions over any luck for him yeah he was in the engine anyway

for him yeah he was in the engine anyway

for him yeah he was in the engine anyway so we saved it that was messed up I

so we saved it that was messed up I

so we saved it that was messed up I don’t know what happened there I don’t

don’t know what happened there I don’t

don’t know what happened there I don’t need their help by Jay thanks for it

need their help by Jay thanks for it

need their help by Jay thanks for it thanks for asking that saves its ranting

thanks for asking that saves its ranting

thanks for asking that saves its ranting about agencies and then then I got

about agencies and then then I got

about agencies and then then I got kicked off its very interesting

kicked off its very interesting

kicked off its very interesting um yeah so I feel like J reyez you know

um yeah so I feel like J reyez you know

um yeah so I feel like J reyez you know added some value there um but I think

added some value there um but I think

added some value there um but I think it’s with any with any agency your

it’s with any with any agency your

it’s with any with any agency your clients there’s a lot of wrong people

clients there’s a lot of wrong people

clients there’s a lot of wrong people and I think we try to if you just sit in

and I think we try to if you just sit in

and I think we try to if you just sit in the box of copywriter you’re gonna get a

the box of copywriter you’re gonna get a

the box of copywriter you’re gonna get a lot of wrong people who don’t want you

lot of wrong people who don’t want you

lot of wrong people who don’t want you and just is a commodity service you know

and just is a commodity service you know

and just is a commodity service you know like just yeah I get some generic thing

like just yeah I get some generic thing

like just yeah I get some generic thing that’s not me right you type in

that’s not me right you type in

that’s not me right you type in copyright I can get somebody who’s you

copyright I can get somebody who’s you

copyright I can get somebody who’s you know in high school closings of a

know in high school closings of a

know in high school closings of a copywriter who doesn’t have an

copywriter who doesn’t have an

copywriter who doesn’t have an experience and you know I so like it’s

experience and you know I so like it’s

experience and you know I so like it’s understanding your point of difference

understanding your point of difference

understanding your point of difference in making that clear and everything

in making that clear and everything

in making that clear and everything you’re doing and I think I think that

you’re doing and I think I think that

you’re doing and I think I think that maybe add some clarity to the channel

maybe add some clarity to the channel

maybe add some clarity to the channel and your website too is if the audience

and your website too is if the audience

and your website too is if the audience is going to be how are you define it if

is going to be how are you define it if

is going to be how are you define it if it’s if it’s bold leaders or I don’t

it’s if it’s bold leaders or I don’t

it’s if it’s bold leaders or I don’t think it has to be living at the

think it has to be living at the

think it has to be living at the Portland that could be your onto now and

Portland that could be your onto now and

Portland that could be your onto now and it’s you know I agree to meet them and

it’s you know I agree to meet them and

it’s you know I agree to meet them and lesson do unless that’s what you do you

lesson do unless that’s what you do you

lesson do unless that’s what you do you have to meet them but defining who you

have to meet them but defining who you

have to meet them but defining who you want to work with and then even if you

want to work with and then even if you

want to work with and then even if you don’t know them yet right like then when

don’t know them yet right like then when

don’t know them yet right like then when you’re creating your content you’re

you’re creating your content you’re

you’re creating your content you’re imagining that this ideal person is

imagining that this ideal person is

imagining that this ideal person is watching it and even if it’s not be a

watching it and even if it’s not be a

watching it and even if it’s not be a sales pitch like okay and call me now

sales pitch like okay and call me now

sales pitch like okay and call me now I’m Jen the fantasy corporator right but

I’m Jen the fantasy corporator right but

I’m Jen the fantasy corporator right but if the intention is there to meet that

if the intention is there to meet that

if the intention is there to meet that audience then that’ll come through in

audience then that’ll come through in

audience then that’ll come through in the videos and you’ll create the content

the videos and you’ll create the content

the videos and you’ll create the content that will be all relevant valuable for

that will be all relevant valuable for

that will be all relevant valuable for them where if you just stay in the small

them where if you just stay in the small

them where if you just stay in the small business solopreneur you know or cop

business solopreneur you know or cop

business solopreneur you know or cop behind or kind of zone then yeah I think

behind or kind of zone then yeah I think

behind or kind of zone then yeah I think you’ve got a really great point it’s

you’ve got a really great point it’s

you’ve got a really great point it’s what it’s funny but this came up because

what it’s funny but this came up because

what it’s funny but this came up because I actually got a conversation recently

I actually got a conversation recently

I actually got a conversation recently about this because they were like famous

about this because they were like famous

about this because they were like famous ease way to niche like people don’t

ease way to niche like people don’t

ease way to niche like people don’t understand it like they’re just not

understand it like they’re just not

understand it like they’re just not gonna you know you should have like a

gonna you know you should have like a

gonna you know you should have like a general like ah you know I’m a

general like ah you know I’m a

general like ah you know I’m a copywriter and I was like no like less

copywriter and I was like no like less

copywriter and I was like no like less exactly the opposite of what i should do

exactly the opposite of what i should do

exactly the opposite of what i should do i should like you know maybe just better

i should like you know maybe just better

i should like you know maybe just better to find what the agency is for people

to find what the agency is for people

to find what the agency is for people but but i mean yeah i could just stand

but but i mean yeah i could just stand

but but i mean yeah i could just stand for something

for something

for something your dad then you’re not i’m not going

your dad then you’re not i’m not going

your dad then you’re not i’m not going to attract the right people to work with

to attract the right people to work with

to attract the right people to work with me yeah and also if you look at the

me yeah and also if you look at the

me yeah and also if you look at the examples that you use right if you you

examples that you use right if you you

examples that you use right if you you know if you look at I remember you’d a

know if you look at I remember you’d a

know if you look at I remember you’d a woman a coaching woman website or

woman a coaching woman website or

woman a coaching woman website or whatever right then who’s gonna like

whatever right then who’s gonna like

whatever right then who’s gonna like that it’s gonna be other coaching women

that it’s gonna be other coaching women

that it’s gonna be other coaching women right right which is not who you want to

right right which is not who you want to

right right which is not who you want to work with so if you’re in your examples

work with so if you’re in your examples

work with so if you’re in your examples and your I don’t like something they’ll

and your I don’t like something they’ll

and your I don’t like something they’ll be relevant to me as an ideal person

be relevant to me as an ideal person

be relevant to me as an ideal person however high points then like if you if

however high points then like if you if

however high points then like if you if you politics just as an example not that

you politics just as an example not that

you politics just as an example not that I’m advocating it all right and talking

I’m advocating it all right and talking

I’m advocating it all right and talking about how politicians should be using

about how politicians should be using

about how politicians should be using fantasy in their speeches and you broke

fantasy in their speeches and you broke

fantasy in their speeches and you broke them for the next 20 videos is breaking

them for the next 20 videos is breaking

them for the next 20 videos is breaking down political speeches and and

down political speeches and and

down political speeches and and campaigns and tactics who’s going to

campaigns and tactics who’s going to

campaigns and tactics who’s going to subscribe to your channel it’s going to

subscribe to your channel it’s going to

subscribe to your channel it’s going to be people interested in politics and how

be people interested in politics and how

be people interested in politics and how to use communication effectively your

to use communication effectively your

to use communication effectively your next gig might be writing a speech for

next gig might be writing a speech for

next gig might be writing a speech for politician and so you know that doesn’t

politician and so you know that doesn’t

politician and so you know that doesn’t have to be your angle but think about

have to be your angle but think about

have to be your angle but think about who your ideal client is and maybe you

who your ideal client is and maybe you

who your ideal client is and maybe you haven’t fully work that out but you

haven’t fully work that out but you

haven’t fully work that out but you think over they are then you create

think over they are then you create

think over they are then you create content for them even the intention the

content for them even the intention the

content for them even the intention the intention is for them they will start to

intention is for them they will start to

intention is for them they will start to come right absolutely are people that

come right absolutely are people that

come right absolutely are people that are similar to them I love it great

are similar to them I love it great

are similar to them I love it great suggestion all right well there we go

suggestion all right well there we go

suggestion all right well there we go all right love it great glass come back

all right love it great glass come back

all right love it great glass come back on a rapid asset that’s all so we made

on a rapid asset that’s all so we made

on a rapid asset that’s all so we made it thank you for this awesome session

it thank you for this awesome session

it thank you for this awesome session have a great end of the year you taste

have a great end of the year you taste

have a great end of the year you taste the next time we’ll connect on this will

the next time we’ll connect on this will

the next time we’ll connect on this will be in January yeah 2016 see you next

be in January yeah 2016 see you next

be in January yeah 2016 see you next year okay i’m sure i’ll talk too far

year okay i’m sure i’ll talk too far

year okay i’m sure i’ll talk too far thank you for sure ok cool thanks james

thank you for sure ok cool thanks james

thank you for sure ok cool thanks james thanks everybody from happening hi

thanks everybody from happening hi

thanks everybody from happening hi everybody thank you

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