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Recognizing identity crisis in Bangladeshi Madrasahs | Shagufe Hossain | TEDxAIUB


yeah I think it’s very ironical that you

yeah I think it’s very ironical that you brought in someone who started a project

brought in someone who started a project

brought in someone who started a project called leaping boundaries then gave her

called leaping boundaries then gave her

called leaping boundaries then gave her a carpet and said don’t step outside the

a carpet and said don’t step outside the

a carpet and said don’t step outside the boundary so my name is sho goofy and I’m

boundary so my name is sho goofy and I’m

boundary so my name is sho goofy and I’m gonna be talking about something that’s

relatable for most of us I think but

relatable for most of us I think but before that has anybody here watch the

before that has anybody here watch the

before that has anybody here watch the movie the rise of the Guardians

movie the rise of the Guardians

movie the rise of the Guardians wonderful I was hoping for it was

wonderful I was hoping for it was

wonderful I was hoping for it was actually fearing much less many less

actually fearing much less many less

actually fearing much less many less hands but okay so do you guys remember

hands but okay so do you guys remember

hands but okay so do you guys remember the character Jack Frost right that guy

the character Jack Frost right that guy

the character Jack Frost right that guy so um he was this character whose

so um he was this character whose

so um he was this character whose greatest suffering in life was that

greatest suffering in life was that

greatest suffering in life was that nobody believed in him because nobody

nobody believed in him because nobody

nobody believed in him because nobody could see him haven’t we all felt like

could see him haven’t we all felt like

could see him haven’t we all felt like that at some point in our lives that we

that at some point in our lives that we

that at some point in our lives that we were invisible

you have just okay

you have just okay so in 2012 I read an article on the star

so in 2012 I read an article on the star

so in 2012 I read an article on the star campus which made me see someone that

campus which made me see someone that

campus which made me see someone that I’d never really seen before I’ll quote

I’d never really seen before I’ll quote

I’d never really seen before I’ll quote from it

more sheep is an expert at navigating a

more sheep is an expert at navigating a taller boat through channels of bonds

taller boat through channels of bonds

taller boat through channels of bonds indicator officially he can stand and

indicator officially he can stand and

indicator officially he can stand and balance himself perfectly on the

balance himself perfectly on the

balance himself perfectly on the otherwise dangerously swaying boat he

otherwise dangerously swaying boat he

otherwise dangerously swaying boat he fights with his cousin to grab the

fights with his cousin to grab the

fights with his cousin to grab the fishing net to catch fish standing on

fishing net to catch fish standing on

fishing net to catch fish standing on low foothills other times

low foothills other times

low foothills other times he likes playing cricket with his

he likes playing cricket with his

he likes playing cricket with his friends Majid Morel had appeared for his

friends Majid Morel had appeared for his

friends Majid Morel had appeared for his Alim exams equivalent to HSE exams a few

Alim exams equivalent to HSE exams a few

Alim exams equivalent to HSE exams a few months back from bug dear Ally mattress

what does that say about more sheep does

what does that say about more sheep does it say anything at all other than those

it say anything at all other than those

it say anything at all other than those three words bug dear Ally madrasah

three words bug dear Ally madrasah

three words bug dear Ally madrasah what’s there that’s different about him

what’s there that’s different about him

what’s there that’s different about him from you and I see I went to an English

from you and I see I went to an English

from you and I see I went to an English medium school and I’d never really

medium school and I’d never really

medium school and I’d never really interacted with anybody from a madrasah

interacted with anybody from a madrasah

interacted with anybody from a madrasah before so before I read this article I

before so before I read this article I

before so before I read this article I had thought very little about the sector

had thought very little about the sector

had thought very little about the sector and I didn’t know much about the sector

and I didn’t know much about the sector

and I didn’t know much about the sector and when I did give it some thought I

and when I did give it some thought I

and when I did give it some thought I only thought of them in the context of

only thought of them in the context of

only thought of them in the context of how they’re different from us and how

how they’re different from us and how

how they’re different from us and how we’re different from them not that

we’re different from them not that

we’re different from them not that there’s anything wrong with being

there’s anything wrong with being

there’s anything wrong with being different but I guess the difference was

different but I guess the difference was

different but I guess the difference was something I wanted to understand a

something I wanted to understand a

something I wanted to understand a little bit better I ended up narrowing

little bit better I ended up narrowing

little bit better I ended up narrowing it down to language I thought it was

it down to language I thought it was

it down to language I thought it was obvious

obvious

obvious if English mediums taught most of its

if English mediums taught most of its

if English mediums taught most of its curriculum in the English language and

curriculum in the English language and

curriculum in the English language and Bengali mediums

Bengali mediums

Bengali mediums taught most of its curriculum in the

taught most of its curriculum in the

taught most of its curriculum in the Bangla language then madrasahs who were

Bangla language then madrasahs who were

Bangla language then madrasahs who were teaching our kite fika and Quran in

teaching our kite fika and Quran in

teaching our kite fika and Quran in Arabic would otherwise be referred to as

Arabic would otherwise be referred to as

Arabic would otherwise be referred to as Arabic mediums and that’s what made them

Arabic mediums and that’s what made them

Arabic mediums and that’s what made them different language

and I had a thought back then it’s a

and I had a thought back then it’s a well-established linguistic theory that

well-established linguistic theory that

well-established linguistic theory that multi-link walls have stronger healthier

multi-link walls have stronger healthier

multi-link walls have stronger healthier grain trains than monolinguals in other

grain trains than monolinguals in other

grain trains than monolinguals in other words they’re cognitively sharper so any

words they’re cognitively sharper so any

words they’re cognitively sharper so any notions that I may have had about these

notions that I may have had about these

notions that I may have had about these kids being intellectually inferior to us

kids being intellectually inferior to us

kids being intellectually inferior to us because they were learning three

because they were learning three

because they were learning three languages had to be dispelled

languages had to be dispelled

languages had to be dispelled they had no basis

about 16 to 18 percent of her secondary

about 16 to 18 percent of her secondary school population is accounted for by

school population is accounted for by

school population is accounted for by madrasa students that’s about eighty

madrasa students that’s about eighty

madrasa students that’s about eighty eight thousand eight hundred and

eight thousand eight hundred and

eight thousand eight hundred and fourteen students in total there’s

fourteen students in total there’s

fourteen students in total there’s clearly not that many in employment so

clearly not that many in employment so

clearly not that many in employment so what was going on here

what was going on here

what was going on here where did all this intellect disappear

where did all this intellect disappear

where did all this intellect disappear why did it disappear

now because I think because I went to an

now because I think because I went to an English medium school and I graduated

English medium school and I graduated

English medium school and I graduated far far from a foreign University and

far far from a foreign University and

far far from a foreign University and because we part we come from a part of

because we part we come from a part of

because we part we come from a part of the world that was colonized by English

the world that was colonized by English

the world that was colonized by English speakers I got stuck somewhere in an

speakers I got stuck somewhere in an

speakers I got stuck somewhere in an english-only zone so I thought English

english-only zone so I thought English

english-only zone so I thought English was their problem that they weren’t

was their problem that they weren’t

was their problem that they weren’t learning the language but enough that if

learning the language but enough that if

learning the language but enough that if I taught them English all their issues

I taught them English all their issues

I taught them English all their issues would be resolved I was wrong of course

would be resolved I was wrong of course

would be resolved I was wrong of course and it took me about seven months and

and it took me about seven months and

and it took me about seven months and two very large political movements one

two very large political movements one

two very large political movements one of them bringing hundreds of Mikasa

of them bringing hundreds of Mikasa

of them bringing hundreds of Mikasa students onto a platform for a cause

students onto a platform for a cause

students onto a platform for a cause that they did not fully understand they

that they did not fully understand they

that they did not fully understand they did not fully comprehend to realize that

did not fully comprehend to realize that

did not fully comprehend to realize that English was an act or that it wasn’t

English was an act or that it wasn’t

English was an act or that it wasn’t enough

I I was born in Iran and I grew up there

I I was born in Iran and I grew up there up until I was about 6 years old and as

up until I was about 6 years old and as

up until I was about 6 years old and as a child I used to speak fluent Farsi the

a child I used to speak fluent Farsi the

a child I used to speak fluent Farsi the first thing I did when I came here when

first thing I did when I came here when

first thing I did when I came here when I moved to Bangladesh was I forgot Farsi

I moved to Bangladesh was I forgot Farsi

I moved to Bangladesh was I forgot Farsi deliberately

that was my way of owning my Bengali

that was my way of owning my Bengali identity I thought if if I kept that

identity I thought if if I kept that

identity I thought if if I kept that part of my irani identity alive then I

part of my irani identity alive then I

part of my irani identity alive then I would be unable to fully embrace being

would be unable to fully embrace being

would be unable to fully embrace being Bangladeshi so I chose to forgo that

Bangladeshi so I chose to forgo that

Bangladeshi so I chose to forgo that part of my identity now in a lot of ways

part of my identity now in a lot of ways

part of my identity now in a lot of ways these students were growing up in this

these students were growing up in this

these students were growing up in this system of education I faced with a

system of education I faced with a

system of education I faced with a crisis that’s quite similar to six year

crisis that’s quite similar to six year

crisis that’s quite similar to six year old Rufus there studying in a system

old Rufus there studying in a system

old Rufus there studying in a system that’s largely based on religious values

that’s largely based on religious values

that’s largely based on religious values that seem to be in conflict sometimes

that seem to be in conflict sometimes

that seem to be in conflict sometimes with mainstream society’s values so

with mainstream society’s values so

with mainstream society’s values so they’re growing up with an identity

they’re growing up with an identity

they’re growing up with an identity crisis particularly now this prices goes

crisis particularly now this prices goes

crisis particularly now this prices goes back to the days of our liberation war

back to the days of our liberation war

back to the days of our liberation war in 1971 or even before actually the

in 1971 or even before actually the

in 1971 or even before actually the Nagas which when the language movement

Nagas which when the language movement

Nagas which when the language movement first happened in 1952 particularly for

first happened in 1952 particularly for

first happened in 1952 particularly for students in Allium addresses this crisis

students in Allium addresses this crisis

students in Allium addresses this crisis is very real because they have a

is very real because they have a

is very real because they have a religious bearing on their education we

religious bearing on their education we

religious bearing on their education we think of them as different from us and

think of them as different from us and

think of them as different from us and then because they have a secular bearing

then because they have a secular bearing

then because they have a secular bearing on their education in the sense that

on their education in the sense that

on their education in the sense that they’re learning English language and

they’re learning English language and

they’re learning English language and math and science they’re seen often as

math and science they’re seen often as

math and science they’re seen often as improper mattresses by those who are

improper mattresses by those who are

improper mattresses by those who are religiously oriented

now don’t get me wrong I think identity

now don’t get me wrong I think identity crisis is a beautiful thing

crisis is a beautiful thing

crisis is a beautiful thing but before I get to that I’ll quote some

but before I get to that I’ll quote some

but before I get to that I’ll quote some statistics there was a report that was

statistics there was a report that was

statistics there was a report that was published by the National Bureau of

published by the National Bureau of

published by the National Bureau of Asian Research the project report was

Asian Research the project report was

Asian Research the project report was titled views from the madrasa Islamic

titled views from the madrasa Islamic

titled views from the madrasa Islamic education in Bangladesh and it reported

education in Bangladesh and it reported

education in Bangladesh and it reported that 47 percent of our respondents

that 47 percent of our respondents

that 47 percent of our respondents expressed feeling isolated and

expressed feeling isolated and

expressed feeling isolated and marginalized in society as compared to

marginalized in society as compared to

marginalized in society as compared to call me mattresses and the reason I said

call me mattresses and the reason I said

call me mattresses and the reason I said identity crisis is a beautiful thing is

identity crisis is a beautiful thing is

identity crisis is a beautiful thing is because I think identities need to be

because I think identities need to be

because I think identities need to be fluid that they’re meant to be fluid it

fluid that they’re meant to be fluid it

fluid that they’re meant to be fluid it teaches us that we can be many things at

teaches us that we can be many things at

teaches us that we can be many things at the same time but we have to learn to

the same time but we have to learn to

the same time but we have to learn to negotiate that space within ourselves

negotiate that space within ourselves

negotiate that space within ourselves and in order to do this we must broaden

and in order to do this we must broaden

and in order to do this we must broaden our horizons step out of our comfort

our horizons step out of our comfort

our horizons step out of our comfort zones

zones

but what often gets in the way of

but what often gets in the way of stepping out of our comfort zones is

stepping out of our comfort zones is

stepping out of our comfort zones is this fear fear of the unknown

it’s no secret that there’s a certain

it’s no secret that there’s a certain sense of fear associated with the stream

sense of fear associated with the stream

sense of fear associated with the stream of education or those who study in the

of education or those who study in the

of education or those who study in the stream of education we think that they

stream of education we think that they

stream of education we think that they teach hate and intolerance within these

teach hate and intolerance within these

teach hate and intolerance within these institutions but the truth is we don’t

institutions but the truth is we don’t

institutions but the truth is we don’t know what’s being taught in these

know what’s being taught in these

know what’s being taught in these institutions and they don’t know what to

institutions and they don’t know what to

institutions and they don’t know what to expect from us because what we don’t see

expect from us because what we don’t see

expect from us because what we don’t see we don’t understand and what we don’t

we don’t understand and what we don’t

we don’t understand and what we don’t understand we fear

so when my project first shut down seven

so when my project first shut down seven months into operation was because I had

months into operation was because I had

months into operation was because I had been unable to conquer that fear I’d

been unable to conquer that fear I’d

been unable to conquer that fear I’d been unable to earn enough trust I’d

been unable to earn enough trust I’d

been unable to earn enough trust I’d been unable to create enough hurt enough

been unable to create enough hurt enough

been unable to create enough hurt enough trust for them to overcome the fear of

trust for them to overcome the fear of

trust for them to overcome the fear of the unknown

the unknown

the unknown so last year in 2013 I started leaping

so last year in 2013 I started leaping

so last year in 2013 I started leaping boundaries with a fresh perspective of

boundaries with a fresh perspective of

boundaries with a fresh perspective of thing on things I realized that the kind

thing on things I realized that the kind

thing on things I realized that the kind of identity crisis that was faced by

of identity crisis that was faced by

of identity crisis that was faced by these students could only be solved by

these students could only be solved by

these students could only be solved by giving them visibility in order to

giving them visibility in order to

giving them visibility in order to create an alternative to this fear

create an alternative to this fear

create an alternative to this fear driven narrative and we called it

driven narrative and we called it

driven narrative and we called it leaping boundaries because we wanted to

leaping boundaries because we wanted to

leaping boundaries because we wanted to help these kids overcome these social

help these kids overcome these social

help these kids overcome these social barriers to represent themselves on

barriers to represent themselves on

barriers to represent themselves on platforms platforms where they were seen

platforms platforms where they were seen

platforms platforms where they were seen platforms where they could represent

platforms where they could represent

platforms where they could represent themselves platforms where they were

themselves platforms where they were

themselves platforms where they were able to feel worthy platforms where they

able to feel worthy platforms where they

able to feel worthy platforms where they were able to reaffirm their sense of

were able to reaffirm their sense of

were able to reaffirm their sense of self-worth and their identities

self-worth and their identities

self-worth and their identities and we do this

by giving them training to build their

by giving them training to build their capacity and then developing and then

capacity and then developing and then

capacity and then developing and then helping them develop a much needed

helping them develop a much needed

helping them develop a much needed coping mechanism so we start with

coping mechanism so we start with

coping mechanism so we start with English language because language is so

English language because language is so

English language because language is so central to our identities and because we

central to our identities and because we

central to our identities and because we work with Alia Macross as we worked with

work with Alia Macross as we worked with

work with Alia Macross as we worked with the government curriculum but we we use

the government curriculum but we we use

the government curriculum but we we use our own teaching training works up what

our own teaching training works up what

our own teaching training works up what work with workshop style methods to help

work with workshop style methods to help

work with workshop style methods to help them think more creatively then we move

them think more creatively then we move

them think more creatively then we move on to soft skills communication skills

on to soft skills communication skills

on to soft skills communication skills cultural intelligence and emotional

cultural intelligence and emotional

cultural intelligence and emotional intelligence things that we consider so

intelligence things that we consider so

intelligence things that we consider so basic but that’s not so basic for so

basic but that’s not so basic for so

basic but that’s not so basic for so many of us we’ve only started giving

many of us we’ve only started giving

many of us we’ve only started giving them psychosocial support so they can

them psychosocial support so they can

them psychosocial support so they can develop that much-needed coping

develop that much-needed coping

develop that much-needed coping mechanism so that their psychosocial

mechanism so that their psychosocial

mechanism so that their psychosocial needs can be understood and met and we

needs can be understood and met and we

needs can be understood and met and we have just partnered with the tech

have just partnered with the tech

have just partnered with the tech academy to provide them with ICT

academy to provide them with ICT

academy to provide them with ICT training so they can access information

training so they can access information

training so they can access information better and process information better

better and process information better

better and process information better and when they’re ready they link to

and when they’re ready they link to

and when they’re ready they link to platforms where the world can see them

platforms where the world can see them

platforms where the world can see them and understand them and win where

and understand them and win where

and understand them and win where they’ll understand and see the world a

they’ll understand and see the world a

they’ll understand and see the world a little bit better

the project has been running for almost

the project has been running for almost three years now and we’ve had some

three years now and we’ve had some

three years now and we’ve had some success so this is my success story

success so this is my success story

success so this is my success story these are our three girls Habiba Khadija

these are our three girls Habiba Khadija

these are our three girls Habiba Khadija and Tania who made it to be yl C’s

and Tania who made it to be yl C’s

and Tania who made it to be yl C’s building bridges to leadership training

building bridges to leadership training

building bridges to leadership training and not only did they make it they

and not only did they make it they

and not only did they make it they performed brilliantly those who have

performed brilliantly those who have

performed brilliantly those who have watched have also seen that girls from

watched have also seen that girls from

watched have also seen that girls from madrasas are able to talk about

madrasas are able to talk about

madrasas are able to talk about menstruation menstrual hygiene

menstruation menstrual hygiene

menstruation menstrual hygiene so the this girl is a shop and she’s the

so the this girl is a shop and she’s the

so the this girl is a shop and she’s the sherlocky cherie of dhaka division more

sherlocky cherie of dhaka division more

sherlocky cherie of dhaka division more recently namesakes from libras

recently namesakes from libras

recently namesakes from libras international Maria and Maria talked

international Maria and Maria talked

international Maria and Maria talked about dignity and told their dignity

about dignity and told their dignity

about dignity and told their dignity story at a plenary discussion organized

story at a plenary discussion organized

story at a plenary discussion organized by friendship so they talked about what

by friendship so they talked about what

by friendship so they talked about what hindered and restored their dignity

this is a picture which is a very poor

this is a picture which is a very poor quality but this was a picture of an

quality but this was a picture of an

quality but this was a picture of an essay that one of the boys we work with

essay that one of the boys we work with

essay that one of the boys we work with wrote for an application form for the BB

wrote for an application form for the BB

wrote for an application form for the BB LT and on being asked to think of an

LT and on being asked to think of an

LT and on being asked to think of an imaginary superhero who was born and

imaginary superhero who was born and

imaginary superhero who was born and raised in Bangladesh and who would solve

raised in Bangladesh and who would solve

raised in Bangladesh and who would solve the country’s needs he wrote about

the country’s needs he wrote about

the country’s needs he wrote about bangla boon to Sheikh Mujibur Rahman the

bangla boon to Sheikh Mujibur Rahman the

bangla boon to Sheikh Mujibur Rahman the somebody want to clap it’s okey to clap

somebody want to clap it’s okey to clap

somebody want to clap it’s okey to clap just saying so um this is a comment that

just saying so um this is a comment that

just saying so um this is a comment that we got on our Facebook page it for some

we got on our Facebook page it for some

we got on our Facebook page it for some reason this is it’s not showing but in

reason this is it’s not showing but in

reason this is it’s not showing but in his first comment the commenter

his first comment the commenter

his first comment the commenter expresses disbelief that this essay

expresses disbelief that this essay

expresses disbelief that this essay could be from a madrasah student at once

could be from a madrasah student at once

could be from a madrasah student at once we explained what this was about

we explained what this was about

we explained what this was about in his second he says I have seen other

in his second he says I have seen other

in his second he says I have seen other relevant photos and discovered myself

relevant photos and discovered myself

relevant photos and discovered myself astonished that I didn’t have any idea

astonished that I didn’t have any idea

astonished that I didn’t have any idea that students from Madras uh could think

that students from Madras uh could think

that students from Madras uh could think in such an imaginable way I really admit

in such an imaginable way I really admit

in such an imaginable way I really admit that this has changed my perception nice

that this has changed my perception nice

that this has changed my perception nice work thank you have a little bit left to

work thank you have a little bit left to

work thank you have a little bit left to say we still have to deal with fear and

say we still have to deal with fear and

say we still have to deal with fear and trust issues we’ve obviously made taken

trust issues we’ve obviously made taken

trust issues we’ve obviously made taken leaps forward if I may say so but we

leaps forward if I may say so but we

leaps forward if I may say so but we still have to deal with fear and trust

still have to deal with fear and trust

still have to deal with fear and trust issues and I have to work every day take

issues and I have to work every day take

issues and I have to work every day take baby steps every day to make the world

baby steps every day to make the world

baby steps every day to make the world believe in them and make them believe in

believe in them and make them believe in

believe in them and make them believe in me but

me but

me but I have to add I have to tell people that

I have to add I have to tell people that

I have to add I have to tell people that um one day these kids may grow up to be

um one day these kids may grow up to be

um one day these kids may grow up to be adults with completely different value

adults with completely different value

adults with completely different value systems from you and I but right now

systems from you and I but right now

systems from you and I but right now they’re just kids and that’s all they

they’re just kids and that’s all they

they’re just kids and that’s all they are and that’s what this is about

are and that’s what this is about

are and that’s what this is about this is about making that transition

this is about making that transition

this is about making that transition from love from fear to love because

from love from fear to love because

from love from fear to love because that’s what that’s all the miracle is

that’s what that’s all the miracle is

that’s what that’s all the miracle is really and in order to do that we have

really and in order to do that we have

really and in order to do that we have to make the unseen seen the unknown

to make the unseen seen the unknown

to make the unseen seen the unknown known so instead of fearing each other

known so instead of fearing each other

known so instead of fearing each other we can learn to love each other and we

we can learn to love each other and we

we can learn to love each other and we don’t have to be stuck feeling like Jack

don’t have to be stuck feeling like Jack

don’t have to be stuck feeling like Jack Frost all of us can be whoever we want

Frost all of us can be whoever we want

Frost all of us can be whoever we want to be thank you

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