Oh 15 years ago I moved to Munich for the second time from the UK and when I
the second time from the UK and when I
the second time from the UK and when I got here I decided that I was going to
got here I decided that I was going to
got here I decided that I was going to start a new way of painting I had no
start a new way of painting I had no
start a new way of painting I had no idea what this new way was going to be
idea what this new way was going to be
idea what this new way was going to be but I discovered a new material called
but I discovered a new material called
but I discovered a new material called gesso a little time before that now I
gesso a little time before that now I
gesso a little time before that now I suspect not many people here have ever
suspect not many people here have ever
suspect not many people here have ever heard of gesso gesso has been used by
heard of gesso gesso has been used by
heard of gesso gesso has been used by artists for centuries but its main use
artists for centuries but its main use
artists for centuries but its main use has been to prime the canvases the
has been to prime the canvases the
has been to prime the canvases the support before that on wooden boards
support before that on wooden boards
support before that on wooden boards panels gesso has always been used it’s a
panels gesso has always been used it’s a
panels gesso has always been used it’s a mixture of glue and chalk there’s lots
mixture of glue and chalk there’s lots
mixture of glue and chalk there’s lots of different types of chalk the chalk
of different types of chalk the chalk
of different types of chalk the chalk acts as the filler and the glue is the
acts as the filler and the glue is the
acts as the filler and the glue is the binder and that has been painted onto
binder and that has been painted onto
binder and that has been painted onto the supports subsequent over painting
the supports subsequent over painting
the supports subsequent over painting them with tempera oil paint and whatever
them with tempera oil paint and whatever
them with tempera oil paint and whatever other paints anybody wanted to use so
other paints anybody wanted to use so
other paints anybody wanted to use so the reason nobody’s ever heard about
the reason nobody’s ever heard about
the reason nobody’s ever heard about gesso is because it’s much more
gesso is because it’s much more
gesso is because it’s much more associated with the support rather than
associated with the support rather than
associated with the support rather than the painting if you go into any gallery
the painting if you go into any gallery
the painting if you go into any gallery in the world and look at paintings that
in the world and look at paintings that
in the world and look at paintings that have been made in the last 500 years
have been made in the last 500 years
have been made in the last 500 years there’s a very good chance that most of
there’s a very good chance that most of
there’s a very good chance that most of them have been grounded first with gesso
them have been grounded first with gesso
them have been grounded first with gesso so I got a studio in Munich and I wanted
so I got a studio in Munich and I wanted
so I got a studio in Munich and I wanted to start some painting so I thought the
to start some painting so I thought the
to start some painting so I thought the best thing to do was to spend some time
best thing to do was to spend some time
best thing to do was to spend some time preparing this ground in a really
preparing this ground in a really
preparing this ground in a really traditional way because it’s quite a
traditional way because it’s quite a
traditional way because it’s quite a complicated process you have to cook the
complicated process you have to cook the
complicated process you have to cook the paint in a double boiler stir it it’s
paint in a double boiler stir it it’s
paint in a double boiler stir it it’s when it’s wet when it’s
when it’s wet when it’s
when it’s wet when it’s ready to be applied it’s like thick hot
ready to be applied it’s like thick hot
ready to be applied it’s like thick hot cream and that dries quite quickly so it
cream and that dries quite quickly so it
cream and that dries quite quickly so it has to be applied quite quickly so I
has to be applied quite quickly so I
has to be applied quite quickly so I wanted to prepare this ground so I
wanted to prepare this ground so I
wanted to prepare this ground so I painted the frame and the great thing
painted the frame and the great thing
painted the frame and the great thing about this material gesso is that it can
about this material gesso is that it can
about this material gesso is that it can be sanded because it’s a chalk ground
be sanded because it’s a chalk ground
be sanded because it’s a chalk ground that sets very solid becomes very very
that sets very solid becomes very very
that sets very solid becomes very very hard and you can prepare it in any way
hard and you can prepare it in any way
hard and you can prepare it in any way want it can be sanded down that it’s
want it can be sanded down that it’s
want it can be sanded down that it’s completely flat or you can give it more
completely flat or you can give it more
completely flat or you can give it more structure it’s been used in furniture
structure it’s been used in furniture
structure it’s been used in furniture painting it’s been used by people who do
painting it’s been used by people who do
painting it’s been used by people who do gold leaf ornate golden frames so you
gold leaf ornate golden frames so you
gold leaf ornate golden frames so you see your surrounding these fantastic
see your surrounding these fantastic
see your surrounding these fantastic pictures in the galleries are all the
pictures in the galleries are all the
pictures in the galleries are all the gold leaf is mostly on a gesso ground so
gold leaf is mostly on a gesso ground so
gold leaf is mostly on a gesso ground so I started painting the first picture
I started painting the first picture
I started painting the first picture preparing this this ground and I thought
preparing this this ground and I thought
preparing this this ground and I thought at some points during the painting
at some points during the painting
at some points during the painting process that it will occur to me what I
process that it will occur to me what I
process that it will occur to me what I want to do afterwards I had no idea so
want to do afterwards I had no idea so
want to do afterwards I had no idea so and this is the first painting I did
and this is the first painting I did
and this is the first painting I did it’s very simple originally it started
it’s very simple originally it started
it’s very simple originally it started off as a completely white square board
off as a completely white square board
off as a completely white square board but then I asked myself the very first
but then I asked myself the very first
but then I asked myself the very first question and the question was why does
question and the question was why does
question and the question was why does it have to be white because it’s chalk
it have to be white because it’s chalk
it have to be white because it’s chalk it’s white so I I thought well maybe I
it’s white so I I thought well maybe I
it’s white so I I thought well maybe I can make it colored so I added a little
can make it colored so I added a little
can make it colored so I added a little bit of black pigment or quite a lot of
bit of black pigment or quite a lot of
bit of black pigment or quite a lot of black pigment and painted the right-hand
black pigment and painted the right-hand
black pigment and painted the right-hand side of the board black I was quite
side of the board black I was quite
side of the board black I was quite impressed with the results but what I
impressed with the results but what I
impressed with the results but what I wanted to do I thought I needed to make
wanted to do I thought I needed to make
wanted to do I thought I needed to make this completely flat so I started
this completely flat so I started
this completely flat so I started sanding it down and when I was sending
sanding it down and when I was sending
sanding it down and when I was sending it down this line between the white and
it down this line between the white and
it down this line between the white and the black became fragmented
the black became fragmented
the black became fragmented and this is the start of everything that
and this is the start of everything that
and this is the start of everything that I’ve done subsequently I was very
I’ve done subsequently I was very
I’ve done subsequently I was very interested in the way that this line
interested in the way that this line
interested in the way that this line became fragmented because then i started
became fragmented because then i started
became fragmented because then i started to thinking well there is no line if you
to thinking well there is no line if you
to thinking well there is no line if you go if you look into any line or any of
go if you look into any line or any of
go if you look into any line or any of especially this the closer you get in
especially this the closer you get in
especially this the closer you get in the more the fragmentation breaks apart
the more the fragmentation breaks apart
the more the fragmentation breaks apart and it it becomes more massive it stops
and it it becomes more massive it stops
and it it becomes more massive it stops being a line altogether so I thought
being a line altogether so I thought
being a line altogether so I thought this was really interesting and I
this was really interesting and I
this was really interesting and I thought well what do I do next and then
thought well what do I do next and then
thought well what do I do next and then the next thing I thought well but if I
the next thing I thought well but if I
the next thing I thought well but if I can turn this line around and I put the
can turn this line around and I put the
can turn this line around and I put the black paint on top of the white paint
black paint on top of the white paint
black paint on top of the white paint and then sand it down then this line
and then sand it down then this line
and then sand it down then this line becomes in the third dimension it’s in
becomes in the third dimension it’s in
becomes in the third dimension it’s in the middle of the painting and not
the middle of the painting and not
the middle of the painting and not through sanding down I’m reaching
through sanding down I’m reaching
through sanding down I’m reaching through to this point where these two
through to this point where these two
through to this point where these two colors these two color fields join so I
colors these two color fields join so I
colors these two color fields join so I thought black is a bit boring so I tried
thought black is a bit boring so I tried
thought black is a bit boring so I tried it with blue it’s not a very good
it with blue it’s not a very good
it with blue it’s not a very good resolution on the picture so but you can
resolution on the picture so but you can
resolution on the picture so but you can see enough that what started to happen
see enough that what started to happen
see enough that what started to happen here what my idea originally was to
here what my idea originally was to
here what my idea originally was to start off with a very light blue work
start off with a very light blue work
start off with a very light blue work through go darker and darker and darker
through go darker and darker and darker
through go darker and darker and darker so I started with an ultra marine
so I started with an ultra marine
so I started with an ultra marine started to go darker and then eventually
started to go darker and then eventually
started to go darker and then eventually going on to Prussian blue which is much
going on to Prussian blue which is much
going on to Prussian blue which is much darker still and then the very last
darker still and then the very last
darker still and then the very last layer was completely black or extremely
layer was completely black or extremely
layer was completely black or extremely dark blue looked almost black so then
dark blue looked almost black so then
dark blue looked almost black so then when I started sending back down I
when I started sending back down I
when I started sending back down I wanted to find the middle point between
wanted to find the middle point between
wanted to find the middle point between all these different layers of color and
all these different layers of color and
all these different layers of color and the idea was that I would see eventually
the idea was that I would see eventually
the idea was that I would see eventually a little bit of every layer but again
a little bit of every layer but again
a little bit of every layer but again something surprising happened that I
something surprising happened that I
something surprising happened that I wasn’t expecting and the thing that
wasn’t expecting and the thing that
wasn’t expecting and the thing that happened was it wasn’t perfect all these
happened was it wasn’t perfect all these
happened was it wasn’t perfect all these lighter spot’s our imperfections these
lighter spot’s our imperfections these
lighter spot’s our imperfections these are lower layers that have come more
are lower layers that have come more
are lower layers that have come more through than the than the darker layers
through than the than the darker layers
through than the than the darker layers and these lighter layers these in
and these lighter layers these in
and these lighter layers these in actions I thought there must be
actions I thought there must be
actions I thought there must be something in that so I tried another few
something in that so I tried another few
something in that so I tried another few pictures I tried with red and green and
pictures I tried with red and green and
pictures I tried with red and green and eventually I started to get a little bit
eventually I started to get a little bit
eventually I started to get a little bit more liberal with my applications of
more liberal with my applications of
more liberal with my applications of color started to add more colors into
color started to add more colors into
color started to add more colors into the single painting and came up with
the single painting and came up with
the single painting and came up with something like this so this is quite a
something like this so this is quite a
something like this so this is quite a big step I don’t know if anybody can
big step I don’t know if anybody can
big step I don’t know if anybody can actually see what’s going on here but I
actually see what’s going on here but I
actually see what’s going on here but I started to see forms and figures and
started to see forms and figures and
started to see forms and figures and things started to come out that I wasn’t
things started to come out that I wasn’t
things started to come out that I wasn’t expecting in at all there’s quite a few
expecting in at all there’s quite a few
expecting in at all there’s quite a few associations he can make with the forms
associations he can make with the forms
associations he can make with the forms that are showing there so this obviously
that are showing there so this obviously
that are showing there so this obviously gave me the desire to find out more
gave me the desire to find out more
gave me the desire to find out more about what could happen so although this
about what could happen so although this
about what could happen so although this is a relatively simple the next picture
is a relatively simple the next picture
is a relatively simple the next picture that i want to show came out like that
that i want to show came out like that
that i want to show came out like that and this is feet much xtreamer here I
and this is feet much xtreamer here I
and this is feet much xtreamer here I started to really get into the color
started to really get into the color
started to really get into the color this is quite a large painting this is
this is quite a large painting this is
this is quite a large painting this is two meters 20 x 1 metre sixty and here i
two meters 20 x 1 metre sixty and here i
two meters 20 x 1 metre sixty and here i started throwing the paint i’d move it
started throwing the paint i’d move it
started throwing the paint i’d move it around with my hands creating structures
around with my hands creating structures
around with my hands creating structures as soon as the paint was on the canvas i
as soon as the paint was on the canvas i
as soon as the paint was on the canvas i used the blunt end of the paintbrush and
used the blunt end of the paintbrush and
used the blunt end of the paintbrush and draw into it make lines into it and i
draw into it make lines into it and i
draw into it make lines into it and i thought at this stage that i need to go
thought at this stage that i need to go
thought at this stage that i need to go and find out about gesso so i went to
and find out about gesso so i went to
and find out about gesso so i went to one of the art book stores in in munich
one of the art book stores in in munich
one of the art book stores in in munich and asked if anybody knew anything about
and asked if anybody knew anything about
and asked if anybody knew anything about gesso and he said it would be a very
gesso and he said it would be a very
gesso and he said it would be a very very short book because jess i was
very short book because jess i was
very short book because jess i was basically just a recipe so there was no
basically just a recipe so there was no
basically just a recipe so there was no I had no way of finding out nobody had
I had no way of finding out nobody had
I had no way of finding out nobody had worked like this before working away
worked like this before working away
worked like this before working away from the canvas building up color I
from the canvas building up color I
from the canvas building up color I build it up on top of each color so
build it up on top of each color so
build it up on top of each color so every layer covers up what’s gone before
every layer covers up what’s gone before
every layer covers up what’s gone before so I haven’t it’s not like I build up a
so I haven’t it’s not like I build up a
so I haven’t it’s not like I build up a painting where I can see the different
painting where I can see the different
painting where I can see the different stages of it
stages of it
stages of it coming together in fact every time I
coming together in fact every time I
coming together in fact every time I paint a new layer I’m covering up what I
paint a new layer I’m covering up what I
paint a new layer I’m covering up what I did before so often the very last layer
did before so often the very last layer
did before so often the very last layer I paint a completely one color layer
I paint a completely one color layer
I paint a completely one color layer over the top then I have to wait a few
over the top then I have to wait a few
over the top then I have to wait a few days for it to dry and when it dries I
days for it to dry and when it dries I
days for it to dry and when it dries I approach it then it’s like a stone I
approach it then it’s like a stone I
approach it then it’s like a stone I have this object all these paint layers
have this object all these paint layers
have this object all these paint layers and structures are in the middle of it
and structures are in the middle of it
and structures are in the middle of it and then I have to start discovering
and then I have to start discovering
and then I have to start discovering what’s inside so I don’t just do a
what’s inside so I don’t just do a
what’s inside so I don’t just do a sanding flat reveal on what’s inside but
sanding flat reveal on what’s inside but
sanding flat reveal on what’s inside but I actually carve away at the color so
I actually carve away at the color so
I actually carve away at the color so that’s why they’re called
that’s why they’re called
that’s why they’re called two-dimensional sculptures because at
two-dimensional sculptures because at
two-dimensional sculptures because at the end of the day they’re fairly flat
the end of the day they’re fairly flat
the end of the day they’re fairly flat but the way I go into it and why I
but the way I go into it and why I
but the way I go into it and why I approach the work is very sculptural in
approach the work is very sculptural in
approach the work is very sculptural in the sense that I am carving so these big
the sense that I am carving so these big
the sense that I am carving so these big these were big pictures and originally I
these were big pictures and originally I
these were big pictures and originally I did them on on wooden boards eight
did them on on wooden boards eight
did them on on wooden boards eight millimeter mdf on really strong boards
millimeter mdf on really strong boards
millimeter mdf on really strong boards and they were very very heavy I couldn’t
and they were very very heavy I couldn’t
and they were very very heavy I couldn’t lift them pretty much at the end I kept
lift them pretty much at the end I kept
lift them pretty much at the end I kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and
getting bigger and bigger and bigger and
getting bigger and bigger and bigger and then I got asked to do an exhibition in
then I got asked to do an exhibition in
then I got asked to do an exhibition in a very small part I’m gallery and it was
a very small part I’m gallery and it was
a very small part I’m gallery and it was only 20 square meters so I thought what
only 20 square meters so I thought what
only 20 square meters so I thought what am I going to do first of all I didn’t
am I going to do first of all I didn’t
am I going to do first of all I didn’t have transport for the bigger paintings
have transport for the bigger paintings
have transport for the bigger paintings and I thought well I go in the other
and I thought well I go in the other
and I thought well I go in the other extreme now because in every painting
extreme now because in every painting
extreme now because in every painting that I did their worlds always small
that I did their worlds always small
that I did their worlds always small sections that I thought that could be a
sections that I thought that could be a
sections that I thought that could be a painting in itself so I started cutting
painting in itself so I started cutting
painting in itself so I started cutting out what I call my cells and the cells
out what I call my cells and the cells
out what I call my cells and the cells are just small cutout of a larger
are just small cutout of a larger
are just small cutout of a larger painting and the idea was I could take
painting and the idea was I could take
painting and the idea was I could take my entire exhibition to the air
my entire exhibition to the air
my entire exhibition to the air exhibition in the pockets my overcoat so
exhibition in the pockets my overcoat so
exhibition in the pockets my overcoat so invited everybody to the exhibition and
invited everybody to the exhibition and
invited everybody to the exhibition and when everyone arrived there was nothing
when everyone arrived there was nothing
when everyone arrived there was nothing on the walls whatsoever so I took out
on the walls whatsoever so I took out
on the walls whatsoever so I took out about 50 or 60 of these tiny discs and
about 50 or 60 of these tiny discs and
about 50 or 60 of these tiny discs and started making a composition of them on
started making a composition of them on
started making a composition of them on the ward I then I asked all the people
the ward I then I asked all the people
the ward I then I asked all the people that were
that were
that were hitting the exhibition to take one and
hitting the exhibition to take one and
hitting the exhibition to take one and put it on the other wall so first of all
put it on the other wall so first of all
put it on the other wall so first of all it was my composition and then it was
it was my composition and then it was
it was my composition and then it was the composition of everybody that was
the composition of everybody that was
the composition of everybody that was visiting the exhibition so I made a
visiting the exhibition so I made a
visiting the exhibition so I made a small speech and said that’s fine that’s
small speech and said that’s fine that’s
small speech and said that’s fine that’s it everyone can go now you take one so
it everyone can go now you take one so
it everyone can go now you take one so at the end of the day at the end of the
at the end of the day at the end of the
at the end of the day at the end of the exhibition everything was gone these
exhibition everything was gone these
exhibition everything was gone these small discs at them just gone into the
small discs at them just gone into the
small discs at them just gone into the world and there is actually from this
world and there is actually from this
world and there is actually from this one exhibition I know now that some
one exhibition I know now that some
one exhibition I know now that some discs in Australia America so out of
discs in Australia America so out of
discs in Australia America so out of this one small painting it’s now
this one small painting it’s now
this one small painting it’s now expanded and spread around so the next
expanded and spread around so the next
expanded and spread around so the next conclusion is i didn’t know what i was
conclusion is i didn’t know what i was
conclusion is i didn’t know what i was doing i’m just making it up as I go
doing i’m just making it up as I go
doing i’m just making it up as I go along basically so I had all this this
along basically so I had all this this
along basically so I had all this this cutout of this painting this frame and
cutout of this painting this frame and
cutout of this painting this frame and not wanting to throw anything away I
not wanting to throw anything away I
not wanting to throw anything away I thought it might be interesting to them
thought it might be interesting to them
thought it might be interesting to them bring these circles these cells back
bring these circles these cells back
bring these circles these cells back into a new painting because it’s always
into a new painting because it’s always
into a new painting because it’s always been for me a process of giving and
been for me a process of giving and
been for me a process of giving and taking away and giving and it’s always a
taking away and giving and it’s always a
taking away and giving and it’s always a to and fro relationship that I have with
to and fro relationship that I have with
to and fro relationship that I have with the surfaces so I started to paint more
the surfaces so I started to paint more
the surfaces so I started to paint more structure there was more going into the
structure there was more going into the
structure there was more going into the pictures I was building up more layers
pictures I was building up more layers
pictures I was building up more layers and using these forms then to create
and using these forms then to create
and using these forms then to create circles now the next picture is actually
circles now the next picture is actually
circles now the next picture is actually what this turned out like in the end and
what this turned out like in the end and
what this turned out like in the end and I think you’ll see this is why I’m so
I think you’ll see this is why I’m so
I think you’ll see this is why I’m so fascinated by by this technique you
fascinated by by this technique you
fascinated by by this technique you can’t imagine that what went that that
can’t imagine that what went that that
can’t imagine that what went that that turned into that and the reason for that
turned into that and the reason for that
turned into that and the reason for that is is because the very last white layer
is is because the very last white layer
is is because the very last white layer that goes over the top then I’m just
that goes over the top then I’m just
that goes over the top then I’m just taking the top skimming the top of it I
taking the top skimming the top of it I
taking the top skimming the top of it I have to make decisions all the time how
have to make decisions all the time how
have to make decisions all the time how far I go back the more I go back the
far I go back the more I go back the
far I go back the more I go back the more I go deeper into the surface of
more I go deeper into the surface of
more I go deeper into the surface of this picture the bigger these forms come
this picture the bigger these forms come
this picture the bigger these forms come so it’s just I have to decide when to
so it’s just I have to decide when to
so it’s just I have to decide when to stop sometimes I go too far back has
stop sometimes I go too far back has
stop sometimes I go too far back has been known to
been known to
been known to but I think you couldn’t see there’s no
but I think you couldn’t see there’s no
but I think you couldn’t see there’s no way of knowing when when I’m painting
way of knowing when when I’m painting
way of knowing when when I’m painting exactly what’s going to come out but I
exactly what’s going to come out but I
exactly what’s going to come out but I put the information in there and for me
put the information in there and for me
put the information in there and for me it’s never it’s not about control I’m
it’s never it’s not about control I’m
it’s never it’s not about control I’m not looking to control the painting I
not looking to control the painting I
not looking to control the painting I want to give the painting the chance to
want to give the painting the chance to
want to give the painting the chance to give me something back its communication
give me something back its communication
give me something back its communication a friend of mine set some cameras up in
a friend of mine set some cameras up in
a friend of mine set some cameras up in my studio and I was supposed to turn
my studio and I was supposed to turn
my studio and I was supposed to turn them on when I was started to sand down
them on when I was started to sand down
them on when I was started to sand down the surface so that you know I could
the surface so that you know I could
the surface so that you know I could demonstrate what happens but every time
demonstrate what happens but every time
demonstrate what happens but every time I was painting or so focused on the
I was painting or so focused on the
I was painting or so focused on the painting and the sanding that I kept
painting and the sanding that I kept
painting and the sanding that I kept forgetting to put the camera on don’t
forgetting to put the camera on don’t
forgetting to put the camera on don’t think there’s something most people are
think there’s something most people are
think there’s something most people are fascinated I’d attacked the surface of
fascinated I’d attacked the surface of
fascinated I’d attacked the surface of the painting with a sanding machine at
the painting with a sanding machine at
the painting with a sanding machine at least you can see you a little bit of
least you can see you a little bit of
least you can see you a little bit of the sanding machines in industrial
the sanding machines in industrial
the sanding machines in industrial sanding machine and then you go into a
sanding machine and then you go into a
sanding machine and then you go into a gallery don’t touch the paintings don’t
gallery don’t touch the paintings don’t
gallery don’t touch the paintings don’t touch the paintings and they be made of
touch the paintings and they be made of
touch the paintings and they be made of dry and grayling away at them I her so
dry and grayling away at them I her so
dry and grayling away at them I her so this is what this turned out to be and
this is what this turned out to be and
this is what this turned out to be and this is interesting as well because I
this is interesting as well because I
this is interesting as well because I started me really liberal with how I
started me really liberal with how I
started me really liberal with how I applied the paint and it was a it became
applied the paint and it was a it became
applied the paint and it was a it became very organic and those organic forms and
very organic and those organic forms and
very organic and those organic forms and shapes coming out so obviously then I
shapes coming out so obviously then I
shapes coming out so obviously then I was interested in the little bit going
was interested in the little bit going
was interested in the little bit going towards landscape but not really any
towards landscape but not really any
towards landscape but not really any specific landscape more sort of an a
specific landscape more sort of an a
specific landscape more sort of an a organic form this is a painting that
organic form this is a painting that
organic form this is a painting that went completely wrong I just put too
went completely wrong I just put too
went completely wrong I just put too much on I was just putting more and more
much on I was just putting more and more
much on I was just putting more and more and more and taking it to the extreme
and more and taking it to the extreme
and more and taking it to the extreme how far can I take this material for a
how far can I take this material for a
how far can I take this material for a break and it did break it cracked
break and it did break it cracked
break and it did break it cracked totally but in a brilliant way when I
totally but in a brilliant way when I
totally but in a brilliant way when I first saw it my first reaction the next
first saw it my first reaction the next
first saw it my first reaction the next day when I came back I was so convinced
day when I came back I was so convinced
day when I came back I was so convinced it was going to be a great painting and
it was going to be a great painting and
it was going to be a great painting and I was going to send it down and was
I was going to send it down and was
I was going to send it down and was great stuff in there and I came back and
great stuff in there and I came back and
great stuff in there and I came back and it totally cracked up so oh my god
it totally cracked up so oh my god
it totally cracked up so oh my god disaster what do i do so it was about
disaster what do i do so it was about
disaster what do i do so it was about two days before an exhibition so I put
two days before an exhibition so I put
two days before an exhibition so I put it in a back room had the exhibition
it in a back room had the exhibition
it in a back room had the exhibition came back a couple of weeks later took
came back a couple of weeks later took
came back a couple of weeks later took it out the room
it out the room
it out the room ah that’s actually really good so you
ah that’s actually really good so you
ah that’s actually really good so you should never go on the first instinct
should never go on the first instinct
should never go on the first instinct when you think everything’s gone wrong
when you think everything’s gone wrong
when you think everything’s gone wrong just give it a bit of time yeah so at
just give it a bit of time yeah so at
just give it a bit of time yeah so at least you see here a little bit of how
least you see here a little bit of how
least you see here a little bit of how it how it goes the top right-hand
it how it goes the top right-hand
it how it goes the top right-hand corners is unsanded and as I take off
corners is unsanded and as I take off
corners is unsanded and as I take off the top layers I’m really interested in
the top layers I’m really interested in
the top layers I’m really interested in in the way that these little delicate
in the way that these little delicate
in the way that these little delicate lines and forms come through this was my
lines and forms come through this was my
lines and forms come through this was my one of the first ones that I did on
one of the first ones that I did on
one of the first ones that I did on canvas I didn’t realize it was possible
canvas I didn’t realize it was possible
canvas I didn’t realize it was possible to paint on canvas because i thought the
to paint on canvas because i thought the
to paint on canvas because i thought the pain was going to be too heavy then I
pain was going to be too heavy then I
pain was going to be too heavy then I started to get more complicated more
started to get more complicated more
started to get more complicated more interested in the composition here’s one
interested in the composition here’s one
interested in the composition here’s one that’s with the cells again sort of
that’s with the cells again sort of
that’s with the cells again sort of going up into the ether out of the out
going up into the ether out of the out
going up into the ether out of the out of a sort of watery base in the painting
of a sort of watery base in the painting
of a sort of watery base in the painting this is a pretty spectacular one and I
this is a pretty spectacular one and I
this is a pretty spectacular one and I started to drip it and I will thinking
started to drip it and I will thinking
started to drip it and I will thinking about how to apply to paint in different
about how to apply to paint in different
about how to apply to paint in different ways I splat it I move it around my
ways I splat it I move it around my
ways I splat it I move it around my man’s I pour it sometimes I throw it in
man’s I pour it sometimes I throw it in
man’s I pour it sometimes I throw it in this case I was dripping it but it’s how
this case I was dripping it but it’s how
this case I was dripping it but it’s how you stand it that’s important because I
you stand it that’s important because I
you stand it that’s important because I went through further back than these
went through further back than these
went through further back than these drips and went right into the base and
drips and went right into the base and
drips and went right into the base and this one to reveal this opening in the
this one to reveal this opening in the
this one to reveal this opening in the middle then it’s this is a detail of
middle then it’s this is a detail of
middle then it’s this is a detail of another painting and you see how
another painting and you see how
another painting and you see how complicated is getting now from this one
complicated is getting now from this one
complicated is getting now from this one simple line it’s getting really really
simple line it’s getting really really
simple line it’s getting really really complicated there’s more layers there’s
complicated there’s more layers there’s
complicated there’s more layers there’s more going on as more activity and I’m
more going on as more activity and I’m
more going on as more activity and I’m still discovering new things today this
still discovering new things today this
still discovering new things today this is also one of my latest ones where I’ve
is also one of my latest ones where I’ve
is also one of my latest ones where I’ve got the energy and this this this ball
got the energy and this this this ball
got the energy and this this this ball of energy in the middle and I wanted to
of energy in the middle and I wanted to
of energy in the middle and I wanted to have it throwing out in every direction
have it throwing out in every direction
have it throwing out in every direction its energy so we come back to this this
its energy so we come back to this this
its energy so we come back to this this is my first gesso painting and what I
is my first gesso painting and what I
is my first gesso painting and what I really want to say is it’s possible out
really want to say is it’s possible out
really want to say is it’s possible out of a line to create a universe thank you
of a line to create a universe thank you
of a line to create a universe thank you you
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