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Killing Breast Cancer – The Lavender Way | Phillip Bretz | TEDxSDSU


that this better have a Hollywood ending

that this better have a Hollywood ending or I should stay home so I’ll let you

or I should stay home so I’ll let you

or I should stay home so I’ll let you decide but we’ve been at this for a long

decide but we’ve been at this for a long

decide but we’ve been at this for a long time so to hear what you got in here

time so to hear what you got in here

time so to hear what you got in here today and I know this topic is a problem

today and I know this topic is a problem

today and I know this topic is a problem for a lot of people it’s touched us for

for a lot of people it’s touched us for

for a lot of people it’s touched us for so long on promise that wasn’t gonna do

so long on promise that wasn’t gonna do

so long on promise that wasn’t gonna do this and so I think I’ve been at this

this and so I think I’ve been at this

this and so I think I’ve been at this for 30 years and I think I can bring a

for 30 years and I think I can bring a

for 30 years and I think I can bring a different conclusion to this whole thing

different conclusion to this whole thing

different conclusion to this whole thing what I’d like to do is bring on a

what I’d like to do is bring on a

what I’d like to do is bring on a journey from where I was trained in the

journey from where I was trained in the

journey from where I was trained in the 70s which were something you weren’t

70s which were something you weren’t

70s which were something you weren’t even born yet so back to where I am

even born yet so back to where I am

even born yet so back to where I am today and back in the 70s it was very

today and back in the 70s it was very

today and back in the 70s it was very aggressive surgery for breast cancer we

aggressive surgery for breast cancer we

aggressive surgery for breast cancer we were gonna teach that cancer a lesson

were gonna teach that cancer a lesson

were gonna teach that cancer a lesson the bigger the tumor the bigger the

the bigger the tumor the bigger the

the bigger the tumor the bigger the knife we got out and and and that and

knife we got out and and and that and

knife we got out and and and that and end up in the surgery took two hours we

end up in the surgery took two hours we

end up in the surgery took two hours we had two assistants with big retractors

had two assistants with big retractors

had two assistants with big retractors and patients spent days in the hospital

and patients spent days in the hospital

and patients spent days in the hospital trying to just move her arm again okay

trying to just move her arm again okay

trying to just move her arm again okay that’s how I was trained

that’s how I was trained

that’s how I was trained we obliterated women unnecessarily as it

we obliterated women unnecessarily as it

we obliterated women unnecessarily as it turns out but it took a long time to

turns out but it took a long time to

turns out but it took a long time to come to the conclusion that you don’t

come to the conclusion that you don’t

come to the conclusion that you don’t have to do it if you just don’t follow

have to do it if you just don’t follow

have to do it if you just don’t follow the recipe everybody follows so from

the recipe everybody follows so from

the recipe everybody follows so from there I treat now with the FDA approved

there I treat now with the FDA approved

there I treat now with the FDA approved it’s called scenario specific a to

it’s called scenario specific a to

it’s called scenario specific a to system uses liquid nitrogen it’s about

system uses liquid nitrogen it’s about

system uses liquid nitrogen it’s about minus 300 degrees so it’s pretty cold if

minus 300 degrees so it’s pretty cold if

minus 300 degrees so it’s pretty cold if you stick your finger in it and flick it

you stick your finger in it and flick it

you stick your finger in it and flick it it will fall off so I have to be really

it will fall off so I have to be really

it will fall off so I have to be really careful because I’m dealing with the

careful because I’m dealing with the

careful because I’m dealing with the breast you know come on guys

breast you know come on guys

breast you know come on guys you know and so procedure lasts about 20

you know and so procedure lasts about 20

you know and so procedure lasts about 20 minutes they resume normal activity and

minutes they resume normal activity and

minutes they resume normal activity and I haven’t even put a stitch in

I haven’t even put a stitch in

I haven’t even put a stitch in and it’s so good that I at this point in

and it’s so good that I at this point in

and it’s so good that I at this point in time I invite members of the family and

time I invite members of the family and

time I invite members of the family and to hold the patient’s hand can you

to hold the patient’s hand can you

to hold the patient’s hand can you believe that you know so in fact if one

believe that you know so in fact if one

believe that you know so in fact if one of the patients her husband was a lawyer

of the patients her husband was a lawyer

of the patients her husband was a lawyer so I invited him in and that was

so I invited him in and that was

so I invited him in and that was probably the first time an attorney had

probably the first time an attorney had

probably the first time an attorney had ever watched something like this or any

ever watched something like this or any

ever watched something like this or any doctor invited an attorney into a

doctor invited an attorney into a

doctor invited an attorney into a procedure yeah it’s it’s it’s really

procedure yeah it’s it’s it’s really

procedure yeah it’s it’s it’s really that good I knew I was walking on

that good I knew I was walking on

that good I knew I was walking on hallowed ground when I when I when I did

hallowed ground when I when I when I did

hallowed ground when I when I when I did my first cases in fact one of my

my first cases in fact one of my

my first cases in fact one of my patients the first time we did this

patients the first time we did this

patients the first time we did this immediately after the procedure she said

immediately after the procedure she said

immediately after the procedure she said she felt so hungry she wanted to go

she felt so hungry she wanted to go

she felt so hungry she wanted to go across the street so we all went across

across the street so we all went across

across the street so we all went across the street to lavender Bistro and lucky

the street to lavender Bistro and lucky

the street to lavender Bistro and lucky that it’s a high-end restaurant and when

that it’s a high-end restaurant and when

that it’s a high-end restaurant and when in 15 minutes she was eating lobster

in 15 minutes she was eating lobster

in 15 minutes she was eating lobster salad and we toasted killing her cancer

salad and we toasted killing her cancer

salad and we toasted killing her cancer with a glass of chardonnay okay so yeah

so two year over two years later when I

so two year over two years later when I just looked at her mammogram no cancer

just looked at her mammogram no cancer

just looked at her mammogram no cancer on it okay it was clear as a bell I

on it okay it was clear as a bell I

on it okay it was clear as a bell I pumped my fist and I wiped the tear like

pumped my fist and I wiped the tear like

pumped my fist and I wiped the tear like I’m doing huh because I knew I knew I

I’m doing huh because I knew I knew I

I’m doing huh because I knew I knew I had an answer to a problem that has

had an answer to a problem that has

had an answer to a problem that has plagued us since recorded medical

plagued us since recorded medical

plagued us since recorded medical history 2300 BC the Edwin Smith papyrus

history 2300 BC the Edwin Smith papyrus

history 2300 BC the Edwin Smith papyrus you can look it up they didn’t know how

you can look it up they didn’t know how

you can look it up they didn’t know how to treat breast cancer then they said

to treat breast cancer then they said

to treat breast cancer then they said they didn’t know what to do they just

they didn’t know what to do they just

they didn’t know what to do they just threw their hands up so my wife actually

threw their hands up so my wife actually

threw their hands up so my wife actually came up with with the name she says you

came up with with the name she says you

came up with with the name she says you realize what happened we should just

realize what happened we should just

realize what happened we should just call this the lavender way I said okay

call this the lavender way I said okay

call this the lavender way I said okay so that’s what it is

so that’s what it is

so that’s what it is the lavender way encompasses three

the lavender way encompasses three

the lavender way encompasses three things pharmacogenomics multiple

things pharmacogenomics multiple

things pharmacogenomics multiple modalities without radiation use

modalities without radiation use

modalities without radiation use mammography – I don’t want to unplug

mammography – I don’t want to unplug

mammography – I don’t want to unplug mammography machines it’s a really great

mammography machines it’s a really great

mammography machines it’s a really great great tool been with us for a long time

great tool been with us for a long time

great tool been with us for a long time and then the treatment and it’s all done

and then the treatment and it’s all done

and then the treatment and it’s all done under the umbrella of what I call

under the umbrella of what I call

under the umbrella of what I call sanctuary centers where we take breast

sanctuary centers where we take breast

sanctuary centers where we take breast cancer doctors out of behind a

cancer doctors out of behind a

cancer doctors out of behind a metaphorical wall at these cancer

metaphorical wall at these cancer

metaphorical wall at these cancer centers because you don’t get to see

centers because you don’t get to see

centers because you don’t get to see these guys these guys spend a lot of

these guys these guys spend a lot of

these guys these guys spend a lot of time getting educated and know a lot

time getting educated and know a lot

time getting educated and know a lot about breast cancer but they don’t have

about breast cancer but they don’t have

about breast cancer but they don’t have any interaction with you until you come

any interaction with you until you come

any interaction with you until you come in with a lump and they try and put you

in with a lump and they try and put you

in with a lump and they try and put you back together again so I figured let’s

back together again so I figured let’s

back together again so I figured let’s look let’s get these guys out from

look let’s get these guys out from

look let’s get these guys out from behind a wall and into making a

behind a wall and into making a

behind a wall and into making a relationship with these girls early on

relationship with these girls early on

relationship with these girls early on so that the idea is maybe a twenty

so that the idea is maybe a twenty

so that the idea is maybe a twenty something or a 30 something year old

something or a 30 something year old

something or a 30 something year old when she wants to know no pressure she

when she wants to know no pressure she

when she wants to know no pressure she comes in we do the genetic testing this

comes in we do the genetic testing this

comes in we do the genetic testing this isn’t Braca one and two that’s only good

isn’t Braca one and two that’s only good

isn’t Braca one and two that’s only good for 10% of the population so we have the

for 10% of the population so we have the

for 10% of the population so we have the capability now in every girl not to just

capability now in every girl not to just

capability now in every girl not to just know her risk but when that risk will

know her risk but when that risk will

know her risk but when that risk will likely manaphy

likely manaphy

likely manaphy within about 10 years during her

within about 10 years during her

within about 10 years during her lifetime yep it’s like having a crystal

lifetime yep it’s like having a crystal

lifetime yep it’s like having a crystal ball for me finally there were all these

ball for me finally there were all these

ball for me finally there were all these years sorry and if you’ve seen the

years sorry and if you’ve seen the

years sorry and if you’ve seen the devastation like I had I had a girl died

devastation like I had I had a girl died

devastation like I had I had a girl died in my arms for God’s sake back in the

in my arms for God’s sake back in the

in my arms for God’s sake back in the hospital 20 years ago before she died I

hospital 20 years ago before she died I

hospital 20 years ago before she died I told her that I i would not relent until

told her that I i would not relent until

told her that I i would not relent until i had an answer excuse me

i had an answer excuse me

i had an answer excuse me this gets really tough for me because

this gets really tough for me because

this gets really tough for me because gps dermatologists don’t deal with this

gps dermatologists don’t deal with this

gps dermatologists don’t deal with this stuff and it’s really difficult when you

stuff and it’s really difficult when you

stuff and it’s really difficult when you can’t do anymore for a patient but now I

can’t do anymore for a patient but now I

can’t do anymore for a patient but now I can so there it is

so it’s an umbrella of nurturing

so it’s an umbrella of nurturing environment for these women and there’s

environment for these women and there’s

environment for these women and there’s no pressure and we we do this years

no pressure and we we do this years

no pressure and we we do this years before she’s gonna you know ever

before she’s gonna you know ever

before she’s gonna you know ever encounter breast cancer and the idea is

encounter breast cancer and the idea is

encounter breast cancer and the idea is to prevent it all together in the also

to prevent it all together in the also

to prevent it all together in the also the idea is that if we get this right

the idea is that if we get this right

the idea is that if we get this right now we have the technology where I can

now we have the technology where I can

now we have the technology where I can zero in on these cancers when they’re

zero in on these cancers when they’re

zero in on these cancers when they’re about four millimeters that’s about the

about four millimeters that’s about the

about four millimeters that’s about the size of a kernel of corn okay and at

size of a kernel of corn okay and at

size of a kernel of corn okay and at that size virtually none of those don’t

that size virtually none of those don’t

that size virtually none of those don’t say none because it’s cancer and it does

say none because it’s cancer and it does

say none because it’s cancer and it does what it does but even if a cancer has

what it does but even if a cancer has

what it does but even if a cancer has potential to be very aggressive later on

potential to be very aggressive later on

potential to be very aggressive later on probably isn’t when it’s this big okay

probably isn’t when it’s this big okay

probably isn’t when it’s this big okay the average sized tumor is over a

the average sized tumor is over a

the average sized tumor is over a centimeter and size that has a billion

centimeter and size that has a billion

centimeter and size that has a billion cancer cells in it and probably has

cancer cells in it and probably has

cancer cells in it and probably has metastatic disease already cancer that’s

metastatic disease already cancer that’s

metastatic disease already cancer that’s spread so the idea is to get it before

spread so the idea is to get it before

spread so the idea is to get it before we do that and then I was trained in the

we do that and then I was trained in the

we do that and then I was trained in the 70s to get it all and guess what it

70s to get it all and guess what it

70s to get it all and guess what it didn’t work did it

didn’t work did it

didn’t work did it because otherwise 40,000 women wouldn’t

because otherwise 40,000 women wouldn’t

because otherwise 40,000 women wouldn’t be dying every year okay

be dying every year okay

be dying every year okay and and that’s a problem and then so if

and and that’s a problem and then so if

and and that’s a problem and then so if we get if we know when the cancers

we get if we know when the cancers

we get if we know when the cancers coming we can plan out for her a

coming we can plan out for her a

coming we can plan out for her a lifelong

lifelong

lifelong personalized surveillance program and as

personalized surveillance program and as

personalized surveillance program and as the time approaches where that cancer is

the time approaches where that cancer is

the time approaches where that cancer is gonna we think it’s coming we can just

gonna we think it’s coming we can just

gonna we think it’s coming we can just go ahead and accelerate the imaging so

go ahead and accelerate the imaging so

go ahead and accelerate the imaging so we find these little tiny cancers okay

we find these little tiny cancers okay

we find these little tiny cancers okay ultra small cancers I call them so I use

ultra small cancers I call them so I use

ultra small cancers I call them so I use three I use three modalities I use

three I use three modalities I use

three I use three modalities I use modified military infrared this isn’t

modified military infrared this isn’t

modified military infrared this isn’t your father’s thermography from the

your father’s thermography from the

your father’s thermography from the seventies that everybody says doesn’t

seventies that everybody says doesn’t

seventies that everybody says doesn’t work this works plenty good otherwise

work this works plenty good otherwise

work this works plenty good otherwise the military wouldn’t be using it so

the military wouldn’t be using it so

the military wouldn’t be using it so Bush Declassified this and it not only

Bush Declassified this and it not only

Bush Declassified this and it not only has you in it just detects heat

has you in it just detects heat

has you in it just detects heat signatures in the breast and there’s no

signatures in the breast and there’s no

signatures in the breast and there’s no there’s no there’s no compression girls

there’s no there’s no compression girls

there’s no there’s no compression girls so there’s not like mammography and it

so there’s not like mammography and it

so there’s not like mammography and it also has artificial intelligence so it

also has artificial intelligence so it

also has artificial intelligence so it has the capability once it knows your

has the capability once it knows your

has the capability once it knows your heat signatures it runs it by just

heat signatures it runs it by just

heat signatures it runs it by just instantaneously by five hundred girls

instantaneously by five hundred girls

instantaneously by five hundred girls that are in the computer that have

that are in the computer that have

that are in the computer that have abnormal infrared heat signature and

abnormal infrared heat signature and

abnormal infrared heat signature and breast cancer so it’ll tell me right

breast cancer so it’ll tell me right

breast cancer so it’ll tell me right away basically so it can really it’s

away basically so it can really it’s

away basically so it can really it’s really differentiated between benign and

really differentiated between benign and

really differentiated between benign and malignant disease for me and in some

malignant disease for me and in some

malignant disease for me and in some cases it’s it’s actually one of the

cases it’s it’s actually one of the

cases it’s it’s actually one of the drawbacks with this stuff we’re working

drawbacks with this stuff we’re working

drawbacks with this stuff we’re working on refining it but one of the drawbacks

on refining it but one of the drawbacks

on refining it but one of the drawbacks is it’ll tell me there’s a cancer there

is it’ll tell me there’s a cancer there

is it’ll tell me there’s a cancer there and mammography and MRI doesn’t pick it

and mammography and MRI doesn’t pick it

and mammography and MRI doesn’t pick it up and then three years later bingo

up and then three years later bingo

up and then three years later bingo there it is so we’re working on that

there it is so we’re working on that

there it is so we’re working on that trust me I’m working on this like a hawk

trust me I’m working on this like a hawk

trust me I’m working on this like a hawk because I want this what if we could get

because I want this what if we could get

because I want this what if we could get it when there’s a millimeter okay then

it when there’s a millimeter okay then

it when there’s a millimeter okay then it wouldn’t really finish chemotherapy

it wouldn’t really finish chemotherapy

it wouldn’t really finish chemotherapy not that I have anything against it but

not that I have anything against it but

not that I have anything against it but needs it okay so so that’s that’s really

needs it okay so so that’s that’s really

needs it okay so so that’s that’s really where it’s at and I you know I think I

where it’s at and I you know I think I

where it’s at and I you know I think I have an answer to this thing a workable

have an answer to this thing a workable

have an answer to this thing a workable answer otherwise it wouldn’t be standing

answer otherwise it wouldn’t be standing

answer otherwise it wouldn’t be standing here and not a problem though we’ve

here and not a problem though we’ve

here and not a problem though we’ve depend enough on the same system for the

depend enough on the same system for the

depend enough on the same system for the past thirty years okay and that is we’ve

past thirty years okay and that is we’ve

past thirty years okay and that is we’ve told women we’ve sold mammography

told women we’ve sold mammography

told women we’ve sold mammography probably better than anything else on

probably better than anything else on

probably better than anything else on planet just go get a mammogram every

planet just go get a mammogram every

planet just go get a mammogram every year do self breast exam and run a race

year do self breast exam and run a race

year do self breast exam and run a race and everything’s gonna be okay and it

and everything’s gonna be okay and it

and everything’s gonna be okay and it just isn’t is it

just isn’t is it

just isn’t is it we still have the same 200,000 cases

we still have the same 200,000 cases

we still have the same 200,000 cases every year into 40,000 deaths for as

every year into 40,000 deaths for as

every year into 40,000 deaths for as long I think I can remember and if the

long I think I can remember and if the

long I think I can remember and if the National Cancer Institute is right they

National Cancer Institute is right they

National Cancer Institute is right they wrote a paper published it last year by

wrote a paper published it last year by

wrote a paper published it last year by 2030 we’re gonna have double the number

2030 we’re gonna have double the number

2030 we’re gonna have double the number of breast cancer cases in this country

of breast cancer cases in this country

of breast cancer cases in this country so that’ll be four hundred thousand and

so that’ll be four hundred thousand and

so that’ll be four hundred thousand and if we do the same old same old

if we do the same old same old

if we do the same old same old it’ll be eighty thousand deaths so if

it’ll be eighty thousand deaths so if

it’ll be eighty thousand deaths so if we’re not prepared to do that then what

we’re not prepared to do that then what

we’re not prepared to do that then what I’m calling for is this country has to

I’m calling for is this country has to

I’m calling for is this country has to decide how it’s gonna treat women for

decide how it’s gonna treat women for

decide how it’s gonna treat women for the next 20 years what do women mean to

the next 20 years what do women mean to

the next 20 years what do women mean to us are we gonna change our attitude and

us are we gonna change our attitude and

us are we gonna change our attitude and and see what’s out there or are we just

and see what’s out there or are we just

and see what’s out there or are we just gonna do wait for the next drug that

gonna do wait for the next drug that

gonna do wait for the next drug that extends life for three months no this

extends life for three months no this

extends life for three months no this really works and I knew I was walking on

really works and I knew I was walking on

really works and I knew I was walking on hallowed ground the light went off for

hallowed ground the light went off for

hallowed ground the light went off for me when I combo at all these

me when I combo at all these

me when I combo at all these technologies so I have the infrared

technologies so I have the infrared

technologies so I have the infrared right in the office they’re right next

right in the office they’re right next

right in the office they’re right next to it is my exam table next to that is

to it is my exam table next to that is

to it is my exam table next to that is my ultrasound unit with elast Tigra

my ultrasound unit with elast Tigra

my ultrasound unit with elast Tigra feels me whether something’s hard or

feels me whether something’s hard or

feels me whether something’s hard or soft and we have Doppler flow and right

soft and we have Doppler flow and right

soft and we have Doppler flow and right next to that is a view box so I can look

next to that is a view box so I can look

next to that is a view box so I can look at the mammogram so I have that

at the mammogram so I have that

at the mammogram so I have that capability to put all these together

capability to put all these together

capability to put all these together right at every visit if I need to use

right at every visit if I need to use

right at every visit if I need to use them and we do and so we find these

them and we do and so we find these

them and we do and so we find these little tiny cancers it makes a big

little tiny cancers it makes a big

little tiny cancers it makes a big difference because then we can do

difference because then we can do

difference because then we can do lavender okay and just for everybody if

lavender okay and just for everybody if

lavender okay and just for everybody if there’s any doctors in the audience

there’s any doctors in the audience

there’s any doctors in the audience there say oh you can’t do that for

there say oh you can’t do that for

there say oh you can’t do that for everybody because cancer is widespread

everybody because cancer is widespread

everybody because cancer is widespread okay so we’re going to do genetic

okay so we’re going to do genetic

okay so we’re going to do genetic studies on the tumor and if yeah so it’s

studies on the tumor and if yeah so it’s

studies on the tumor and if yeah so it’s a four millimeter tumor and it’s

a four millimeter tumor and it’s

a four millimeter tumor and it’s aggressive so you still want to do

aggressive so you still want to do

aggressive so you still want to do sentinel lymph node biopsy or axillary

sentinel lymph node biopsy or axillary

sentinel lymph node biopsy or axillary node surgery you can do that you can

node surgery you can do that you can

node surgery you can do that you can still do chemotherapy but just leave the

still do chemotherapy but just leave the

still do chemotherapy but just leave the breast alone because it doesn’t make any

breast alone because it doesn’t make any

breast alone because it doesn’t make any difference it’s never been shown to be

difference it’s never been shown to be

difference it’s never been shown to be better than lumpectomy we’ve spent 300

better than lumpectomy we’ve spent 300

better than lumpectomy we’ve spent 300 billion dollars since

billion dollars since

billion dollars since Nixon pen the National Cancer Act in

Nixon pen the National Cancer Act in

Nixon pen the National Cancer Act in 1971 and part of that money went to

1971 and part of that money went to

1971 and part of that money went to multiple clinical trials that proved

multiple clinical trials that proved

multiple clinical trials that proved lumpectomy was just as good as

lumpectomy was just as good as

lumpectomy was just as good as mastectomy now we have a movement in

mastectomy now we have a movement in

mastectomy now we have a movement in this country called unko plastic surgery

this country called unko plastic surgery

this country called unko plastic surgery so the surgeons are gearing up for more

so the surgeons are gearing up for more

so the surgeons are gearing up for more radical surgery American College of

radical surgery American College of

radical surgery American College of Surgeons in the paper came out last

Surgeons in the paper came out last

Surgeons in the paper came out last month 2000 January 2016 and the titleist

month 2000 January 2016 and the titleist

month 2000 January 2016 and the titleist was the title was bilateral mastectomy

was the title was bilateral mastectomy

was the title was bilateral mastectomy driven by fear or prevention and one of

driven by fear or prevention and one of

driven by fear or prevention and one of the writers said we are facing a tsunami

the writers said we are facing a tsunami

the writers said we are facing a tsunami of requests for mastectomy I can only

of requests for mastectomy I can only

of requests for mastectomy I can only say that you know this is wrong this is

say that you know this is wrong this is

say that you know this is wrong this is really not good is this the answer we

really not good is this the answer we

really not good is this the answer we have for women after 300 billion dollars

have for women after 300 billion dollars

have for women after 300 billion dollars in 40 years of research that we’re gonna

in 40 years of research that we’re gonna

in 40 years of research that we’re gonna take both breasts off why don’t we just

take both breasts off why don’t we just

take both breasts off why don’t we just do it at puberty and then we’ll rid

do it at puberty and then we’ll rid

do it at puberty and then we’ll rid ourselves of the whole damn problem guys

ourselves of the whole damn problem guys

ourselves of the whole damn problem guys wouldn’t like that though No so yeah

wouldn’t like that though No so yeah

wouldn’t like that though No so yeah you’re right yeah so it’s one of the

you’re right yeah so it’s one of the

you’re right yeah so it’s one of the foundations of our country for God’s

foundations of our country for God’s

foundations of our country for God’s sake so no we want to do this a

sake so no we want to do this a

sake so no we want to do this a different way and so we need people to

different way and so we need people to

different way and so we need people to to you know embrace this okay to look

to you know embrace this okay to look

to you know embrace this okay to look around other rather than just looking

around other rather than just looking

around other rather than just looking for the next drug so when I do this

for the next drug so when I do this

for the next drug so when I do this procedure its outpatient procedure do it

procedure its outpatient procedure do it

procedure its outpatient procedure do it under local anesthesia and as I said you

under local anesthesia and as I said you

under local anesthesia and as I said you know they resume normal activity right

know they resume normal activity right

know they resume normal activity right away and a couple of things I’ve

away and a couple of things I’ve

away and a couple of things I’ve mentioned as the we kill the cancer and

mentioned as the we kill the cancer and

mentioned as the we kill the cancer and about two months after we do core

about two months after we do core

about two months after we do core biopsies on all these patients because I

biopsies on all these patients because I

biopsies on all these patients because I want to make sure I kill the cancer so

want to make sure I kill the cancer so

want to make sure I kill the cancer so we really don’t lose anything you can

we really don’t lose anything you can

we really don’t lose anything you can look my you know you could always take

look my you know you could always take

look my you know you could always take the breast off if you have to you can’t

the breast off if you have to you can’t

the breast off if you have to you can’t put it back on so by doing the lavender

put it back on so by doing the lavender

put it back on so by doing the lavender I kill it in 20 minutes with the saneras

I kill it in 20 minutes with the saneras

I kill it in 20 minutes with the saneras physica 2 system and it’s dead and we

physica 2 system and it’s dead and we

physica 2 system and it’s dead and we biopsy it and it’s dead it comes to the

biopsy it and it’s dead it comes to the

biopsy it and it’s dead it comes to the pathology reports come back fat necrosis

pathology reports come back fat necrosis

pathology reports come back fat necrosis and infarction and I almost fell off

and infarction and I almost fell off

and infarction and I almost fell off because I lied to the pathologist I

because I lied to the pathologist I

because I lied to the pathologist I didn’t tell them what I was doing

didn’t tell them what I was doing

didn’t tell them what I was doing I didn’t tell him I what I was doing and

I didn’t tell him I what I was doing and

I didn’t tell him I what I was doing and I wanted to see what he what they would

I wanted to see what he what they would

I wanted to see what he what they would say and that’s what they said and that’s

say and that’s what they said and that’s

say and that’s what they said and that’s what they all say okay and so so as the

what they all say okay and so so as the

what they all say okay and so so as the dead cancer cells are absorbed in the

dead cancer cells are absorbed in the

dead cancer cells are absorbed in the body because we don’t operate on the

body because we don’t operate on the

body because we don’t operate on the patient that acts like a dead polio

patient that acts like a dead polio

patient that acts like a dead polio virus so the patient’s own immune system

virus so the patient’s own immune system

virus so the patient’s own immune system is producing specific antibodies against

is producing specific antibodies against

is producing specific antibodies against her specific tumor that’s preliminary

her specific tumor that’s preliminary

her specific tumor that’s preliminary data so you know it’ll take fifteen

data so you know it’ll take fifteen

data so you know it’ll take fifteen years to to decide you know if this is

years to to decide you know if this is

years to to decide you know if this is going to make a difference in terms of

going to make a difference in terms of

going to make a difference in terms of recurrences or survival okay so but

recurrences or survival okay so but

recurrences or survival okay so but that’s can’t hurt

that’s can’t hurt

that’s can’t hurt I don’t think and then we also solve the

I don’t think and then we also solve the

I don’t think and then we also solve the age-old problem of positive margins in

age-old problem of positive margins in

age-old problem of positive margins in the same American College of Surgeons

the same American College of Surgeons

the same American College of Surgeons article they said that the take back for

article they said that the take back for

article they said that the take back for a second lumpectomy because oh there was

a second lumpectomy because oh there was

a second lumpectomy because oh there was cancer at the 6 o’clock margin and in

cancer at the 6 o’clock margin and in

cancer at the 6 o’clock margin and in the radio and a radiation therapist

the radio and a radiation therapist

the radio and a radiation therapist doesn’t want to do radiation because

doesn’t want to do radiation because

doesn’t want to do radiation because there’s there’s cancer there you have to

there’s there’s cancer there you have to

there’s there’s cancer there you have to go back and get it okay so we go back

go back and get it okay so we go back

go back and get it okay so we go back and get it 40% of the time is the

and get it 40% of the time is the

and get it 40% of the time is the average okay and they had a 30%

average okay and they had a 30%

average okay and they had a 30% complication rate in young women in 30

complication rate in young women in 30

complication rate in young women in 30 year olds 30% complication in and in 70

year olds 30% complication in and in 70

year olds 30% complication in and in 70 year olds the complication rate was 75%

year olds the complication rate was 75%

year olds the complication rate was 75% come on where are these people I mean

come on where are these people I mean

come on where are these people I mean come on we’ve got to do this better for

come on we’ve got to do this better for

come on we’ve got to do this better for the girls don’t

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