
so you might notice this is a little bit different format than what we’ve had
different format than what we’ve had
different format than what we’ve had throughout the rest of the conference
throughout the rest of the conference
throughout the rest of the conference and we wanted to kind of have a little
and we wanted to kind of have a little
and we wanted to kind of have a little bit more of an exchange between us
bit more of an exchange between us
bit more of an exchange between us around kind of some of the ideas that
around kind of some of the ideas that
around kind of some of the ideas that you know we’re shaping the the world at
you know we’re shaping the the world at
you know we’re shaping the the world at that time it’s kind of translate that
that time it’s kind of translate that
that time it’s kind of translate that into how it is affecting us all now so I
into how it is affecting us all now so I
into how it is affecting us all now so I guess my first question for you Leonard
guess my first question for you Leonard
guess my first question for you Leonard is that you know with the the Commodore
is that you know with the the Commodore
is that you know with the the Commodore pet which you worked on extensively and
pet which you worked on extensively and
pet which you worked on extensively and then later the vic-20 and the c64 and
then later the vic-20 and the c64 and
then later the vic-20 and the c64 and then later with Atari you know there was
then later with Atari you know there was
then later with Atari you know there was this huge explosion in the number of
this huge explosion in the number of
this huge explosion in the number of computers in the hands of people and
computers in the hands of people and
computers in the hands of people and that was really you know your father’s
that was really you know your father’s
that was really you know your father’s stated goal was how do we get this into
stated goal was how do we get this into
stated goal was how do we get this into as many hands as possible what effect do
as many hands as possible what effect do
as many hands as possible what effect do you think that had on that generation
you think that had on that generation
you think that had on that generation well it started an awful lot of careers
well it started an awful lot of careers
well it started an awful lot of careers I can’t imagine the number of people
I can’t imagine the number of people
I can’t imagine the number of people that have come up to me when they see my
that have come up to me when they see my
that have come up to me when they see my last name and go you started my career
last name and go you started my career
last name and go you started my career you gave me what became my life which is
you gave me what became my life which is
you gave me what became my life which is kind of a weird experience but yeah it
kind of a weird experience but yeah it
kind of a weird experience but yeah it there’s no question that personal
there’s no question that personal
there’s no question that personal computers would have happened without us
computers would have happened without us
computers would have happened without us but I don’t think there’s any question
but I don’t think there’s any question
but I don’t think there’s any question that there would been a lot fewer people
that there would been a lot fewer people
that there would been a lot fewer people with them as early as there were right
with them as early as there were right
with them as early as there were right right and I guess you know for folks
right and I guess you know for folks
right and I guess you know for folks that don’t know I mean one of the key
that don’t know I mean one of the key
that don’t know I mean one of the key developments was the creation of the
developments was the creation of the
developments was the creation of the 6502 microprocessor and if you didn’t
6502 microprocessor and if you didn’t
6502 microprocessor and if you didn’t know the 6502 is what powered the Apple
know the 6502 is what powered the Apple
know the 6502 is what powered the Apple 2 the Commodore 64 the Atari 8-bit
2 the Commodore 64 the Atari 8-bit
2 the Commodore 64 the Atari 8-bit computers a handful of others yeah
computers a handful of others yeah
computers a handful of others yeah including the Nintendo Entertainment
including the Nintendo Entertainment
including the Nintendo Entertainment System
System
System right exactly virtually everything at
right exactly virtually everything at
right exactly virtually everything at the time ran off for this one chip and I
the time ran off for this one chip and I
the time ran off for this one chip and I guess the interesting thing too is that
guess the interesting thing too is that
guess the interesting thing too is that your father acquired the company that
your father acquired the company that
your father acquired the company that created the 6502 right mas Tech so you
created the 6502 right mas Tech so you
created the 6502 right mas Tech so you know that gave them I guess a tremendous
know that gave them I guess a tremendous
know that gave them I guess a tremendous edge in terms of being able to pump out
edge in terms of being able to pump out
edge in terms of being able to pump out these chips and get them to a tremendous
these chips and get them to a tremendous
these chips and get them to a tremendous number of people yeah and it was
number of people yeah and it was
number of people yeah and it was completely accidental the so MOS
completely accidental the so MOS
completely accidental the so MOS technology
technology
technology made a couple of things at the time they
made a couple of things at the time they
made a couple of things at the time they my dad bought them because they produced
my dad bought them because they produced
my dad bought them because they produced calculator chips and there was a an
calculator chips and there was a an
calculator chips and there was a an interesting shakeout in the in the
interesting shakeout in the in the
interesting shakeout in the in the industry Texas Instrument supplied the
industry Texas Instrument supplied the
industry Texas Instrument supplied the calculator chips for virtually every
calculator chips for virtually every
calculator chips for virtually every calculator that we sold in the US I
calculator that we sold in the US I
calculator that we sold in the US I don’t think anyone out there probably
don’t think anyone out there probably
don’t think anyone out there probably remembers the boom our brain the first I
remembers the boom our brain the first I
remembers the boom our brain the first I see one hand probably more used to word
see one hand probably more used to word
see one hand probably more used to word it there
it there
it there excellent the so an incredibly
excellent the so an incredibly
excellent the so an incredibly successful line of of calculators and
successful line of of calculators and
successful line of of calculators and then Texas Instrument changed the
then Texas Instrument changed the
then Texas Instrument changed the pricing drove boom are almost instantly
pricing drove boom are almost instantly
pricing drove boom are almost instantly out of business
out of business
out of business mmm my father who was a Holocaust
mmm my father who was a Holocaust
mmm my father who was a Holocaust survivor tells the story or told the
survivor tells the story or told the
survivor tells the story or told the story that he wasn’t so ready to die yet
story that he wasn’t so ready to die yet
story that he wasn’t so ready to die yet so he found a company that made
so he found a company that made
so he found a company that made calculator chips and bought it and they
calculator chips and bought it and they
calculator chips and bought it and they also had this microprocessor and the guy
also had this microprocessor and the guy
also had this microprocessor and the guy that designed that wanted to make
that designed that wanted to make
that designed that wanted to make personal computers so yeah what I’m you
personal computers so yeah what I’m you
personal computers so yeah what I’m you know a total coincidence and a meeting
know a total coincidence and a meeting
know a total coincidence and a meeting of the mind so that would have been
of the mind so that would have been
of the mind so that would have been trucked pedal I guess yeah yeah so you
trucked pedal I guess yeah yeah so you
trucked pedal I guess yeah yeah so you know here you have this processor that
know here you have this processor that
know here you have this processor that for its day was an incredibly advanced
for its day was an incredibly advanced
for its day was an incredibly advanced processor compared to say the z80 and
processor compared to say the z80 and
processor compared to say the z80 and you know in terms of like the amount of
you know in terms of like the amount of
you know in terms of like the amount of raw power sort of packed into a small
raw power sort of packed into a small
raw power sort of packed into a small die I guess the the the power per dollar
die I guess the the the power per dollar
die I guess the the the power per dollar right is where it absolutely excelled
right is where it absolutely excelled
right is where it absolutely excelled and they were selling them for like
and they were selling them for like
and they were selling them for like twenty twenty-five dollars something
twenty twenty-five dollars something
twenty twenty-five dollars something like that you have to like hobbyists and
like that you have to like hobbyists and
like that you have to like hobbyists and stuff and so this was incredible the
stuff and so this was incredible the
stuff and so this was incredible the notion that you could suddenly get a
notion that you could suddenly get a
notion that you could suddenly get a computer chip that would you know enable
computer chip that would you know enable
computer chip that would you know enable you to build effectively a whole home
you to build effectively a whole home
you to build effectively a whole home computer from mostly one chip it’s right
computer from mostly one chip it’s right
computer from mostly one chip it’s right it’s pretty incredible so that was what
it’s pretty incredible so that was what
it’s pretty incredible so that was what inspired Steve Wozniak and you know the
inspired Steve Wozniak and you know the
inspired Steve Wozniak and you know the other creators of these 6502 based
other creators of these 6502 based
other creators of these 6502 based machines to you know really see that
machines to you know really see that
machines to you know really see that there was a possibility of getting it
there was a possibility of getting it
there was a possibility of getting it into the hands of a lot of people yeah
into the hands of a lot of people yeah
into the hands of a lot of people yeah so tell me you know you were trained in
so tell me you know you were trained in
so tell me you know you were trained in astrophysics but also have a disability
astrophysics but also have a disability
astrophysics but also have a disability for computing and computers and you know
for computing and computers and you know
for computing and computers and you know you seem also to be really driven to you
you seem also to be really driven to you
you seem also to be really driven to you know educate people about science and
know educate people about science and
know educate people about science and critical thinking how do you see all
critical thinking how do you see all
critical thinking how do you see all those things as interrelated
those things as interrelated
those things as interrelated [Music]
[Music]
[Music] well computers are the the tools of
well computers are the the tools of
well computers are the the tools of science it’s really hard to get a degree
science it’s really hard to get a degree
science it’s really hard to get a degree in science these days or even back in
in science these days or even back in
in science these days or even back in the in the ancient past when I did
the in the ancient past when I did
the in the ancient past when I did without doing a lot of computer work so
without doing a lot of computer work so
without doing a lot of computer work so those are intimately connected and then
those are intimately connected and then
those are intimately connected and then as Carl Sagan said we have a culture
as Carl Sagan said we have a culture
as Carl Sagan said we have a culture that is exquisitely based on science and
that is exquisitely based on science and
that is exquisitely based on science and technology and a populace that knows
technology and a populace that knows
technology and a populace that knows almost nothing about science and
almost nothing about science and
almost nothing about science and technology and I think he said something
technology and I think he said something
technology and I think he said something along the lines of we might survive that
along the lines of we might survive that
along the lines of we might survive that way for a while but the combustible
way for a while but the combustible
way for a while but the combustible mixture of power and ignorance will blow
mixture of power and ignorance will blow
mixture of power and ignorance will blow up in our faces yeah I think that’s kind
up in our faces yeah I think that’s kind
up in our faces yeah I think that’s kind of a description of 2016 I’m not sure if
of a description of 2016 I’m not sure if
of a description of 2016 I’m not sure if that was what he had in mind but we’re
that was what he had in mind but we’re
that was what he had in mind but we’re getting there if not we’re getting there
getting there if not we’re getting there
getting there if not we’re getting there so question that we had discussed
so question that we had discussed
so question that we had discussed earlier and I think the audience would
earlier and I think the audience would
earlier and I think the audience would like to hear about is the idea of should
like to hear about is the idea of should
like to hear about is the idea of should everyone learn to code that certainly is
everyone learn to code that certainly is
everyone learn to code that certainly is something that we keep hearing right now
something that we keep hearing right now
something that we keep hearing right now is learn to code learn to code what do
is learn to code learn to code what do
is learn to code learn to code what do you think that’s an easy one I don’t
you think that’s an easy one I don’t
you think that’s an easy one I don’t know it’s the I think the world would be
know it’s the I think the world would be
know it’s the I think the world would be an enormous ly better place if everyone
an enormous ly better place if everyone
an enormous ly better place if everyone had the humbling psychological
had the humbling psychological
had the humbling psychological experience of trying to make a computer
experience of trying to make a computer
experience of trying to make a computer do exactly what the heck you want it to
do exactly what the heck you want it to
do exactly what the heck you want it to do because they’re incredibly literal
do because they’re incredibly literal
do because they’re incredibly literal and unless you have very carefully
and unless you have very carefully
and unless you have very carefully thought things through it’s not gonna
thought things through it’s not gonna
thought things through it’s not gonna work and that’s so it’s a wonderful
work and that’s so it’s a wonderful
work and that’s so it’s a wonderful intellectual exercise and and it would
intellectual exercise and and it would
intellectual exercise and and it would be good if if people had that but I
be good if if people had that but I
be good if if people had that but I don’t know if that’s possible I don’t
don’t know if that’s possible I don’t
don’t know if that’s possible I don’t know what percentage of people will
know what percentage of people will
know what percentage of people will actually get there at some level I think
actually get there at some level I think
actually get there at some level I think it should be done like art and music
it should be done like art and music
it should be done like art and music education was used to be done people
education was used to be done people
education was used to be done people didn’t go to our class because they were
didn’t go to our class because they were
didn’t go to our class because they were going to become artists they went
going to become artists they went
going to become artists they went because they were going to be
because they were going to be
because they were going to be knowledgeable about what art was and why
knowledgeable about what art was and why
knowledgeable about what art was and why it was important
it was important
it was important and what art could do for culture at
and what art could do for culture at
and what art could do for culture at some level I think we should teach not
some level I think we should teach not
some level I think we should teach not only computers but math and science that
only computers but math and science that
only computers but math and science that way so people actually understand why
way so people actually understand why
way so people actually understand why math and science are beautiful and why
math and science are beautiful and why
math and science are beautiful and why they’re useful as opposed to how many
they’re useful as opposed to how many
they’re useful as opposed to how many loops in a block and tackle it takes to
loops in a block and tackle it takes to
loops in a block and tackle it takes to lift a certain number of pounds which
lift a certain number of pounds which
lift a certain number of pounds which isn’t always that fun yeah and we were
isn’t always that fun yeah and we were
isn’t always that fun yeah and we were talking about the idea of appreciating
talking about the idea of appreciating
talking about the idea of appreciating beauty and the idea of like appreciating
beauty and the idea of like appreciating
beauty and the idea of like appreciating a beautiful mathematical proof and yeah
a beautiful mathematical proof and yeah
a beautiful mathematical proof and yeah how that seems to be something that’s
how that seems to be something that’s
how that seems to be something that’s lost on a big chunk of the culture yeah
lost on a big chunk of the culture yeah
lost on a big chunk of the culture yeah I
I
I it’s some level I think it’s because the
it’s some level I think it’s because the
it’s some level I think it’s because the first introduction most people get to
first introduction most people get to
first introduction most people get to math is unavoidably in elementary school
math is unavoidably in elementary school
math is unavoidably in elementary school and very few elementary school teachers
and very few elementary school teachers
and very few elementary school teachers or math experts and they don’t feel the
or math experts and they don’t feel the
or math experts and they don’t feel the as Bertrand Russell called it the cold
as Bertrand Russell called it the cold
as Bertrand Russell called it the cold austere beauty of mathematics right
austere beauty of mathematics right
austere beauty of mathematics right ourselves can’t kind of convey it the
ourselves can’t kind of convey it the
ourselves can’t kind of convey it the cold austere beauty of mathematics is
cold austere beauty of mathematics is
cold austere beauty of mathematics is not a joke it’s a it’s a it’s a real
not a joke it’s a it’s a it’s a real
not a joke it’s a it’s a it’s a real thing and it’s a I can’t tell why you’re
thing and it’s a I can’t tell why you’re
thing and it’s a I can’t tell why you’re laughing that’s the but if you could I’m
laughing that’s the but if you could I’m
laughing that’s the but if you could I’m sure that as a percentage of you that
sure that as a percentage of you that
sure that as a percentage of you that are nodding your head and going yeah
are nodding your head and going yeah
are nodding your head and going yeah it’s really beautiful
it’s really beautiful
it’s really beautiful and there’s another almost certainly
and there’s another almost certainly
and there’s another almost certainly larger percentage going what is he
larger percentage going what is he
larger percentage going what is he talking about but there’s there’s
talking about but there’s there’s
talking about but there’s there’s something there that would make
something there that would make
something there that would make everyone’s life better right right now
everyone’s life better right right now
everyone’s life better right right now you were a peer of Steve Jobs you knew
you were a peer of Steve Jobs you knew
you were a peer of Steve Jobs you knew Steve I wondered if you had a favorite
Steve I wondered if you had a favorite
Steve I wondered if you had a favorite Steve story first time I met him was at
Steve story first time I met him was at
Steve story first time I met him was at a at a pool party at Chuck paddles house
a at a pool party at Chuck paddles house
a at a pool party at Chuck paddles house and Steve had arrived on his brand-new
and Steve had arrived on his brand-new
and Steve had arrived on his brand-new BMW motorcycle and all he would talk
BMW motorcycle and all he would talk
BMW motorcycle and all he would talk about was the elegance of BMW shaft
about was the elegance of BMW shaft
about was the elegance of BMW shaft drive motorcycles as opposed to everyone
drive motorcycles as opposed to everyone
drive motorcycles as opposed to everyone else
else
else is ridiculous chain drive and the the
is ridiculous chain drive and the the
is ridiculous chain drive and the the drive he had no pun intended for
drive he had no pun intended for
drive he had no pun intended for elegance and how design needs to be
elegance and how design needs to be
elegance and how design needs to be beautiful and functional and maximize
beautiful and functional and maximize
beautiful and functional and maximize those two together seem to be something
those two together seem to be something
those two together seem to be something that really drove him well and we
that really drove him well and we
that really drove him well and we certainly saw that later on and and the
certainly saw that later on and and the
certainly saw that later on and and the idea of something precision milled seems
idea of something precision milled seems
idea of something precision milled seems very Steve yeah yeah you know so I’m
very Steve yeah yeah you know so I’m
very Steve yeah yeah you know so I’m gonna bring up a anecdote from the fall
gonna bring up a anecdote from the fall
gonna bring up a anecdote from the fall of 1990 so we’re gonna go back a time I
of 1990 so we’re gonna go back a time I
of 1990 so we’re gonna go back a time I had written a piece about a Nestea book
had written a piece about a Nestea book
had written a piece about a Nestea book which was a laptop that you guys had
which was a laptop that you guys had
which was a laptop that you guys had designed and I was lamenting the
designed and I was lamenting the
designed and I was lamenting the omission of a floppy disk drive in this
omission of a floppy disk drive in this
omission of a floppy disk drive in this machine because at that time to me then
machine because at that time to me then
machine because at that time to me then it seemed very important and you called
it seemed very important and you called
it seemed very important and you called me up on the phone and said what are you
me up on the phone and said what are you
me up on the phone and said what are you doing you don’t know what you’re talking
doing you don’t know what you’re talking
doing you don’t know what you’re talking about this thing doesn’t need a disk
about this thing doesn’t need a disk
about this thing doesn’t need a disk drive do you remember this at all no
that’s why I save it so now I’m sorry
that’s why I save it so now I’m sorry it’s quite all right you were right I
it’s quite all right you were right I
it’s quite all right you were right I mean looking back on it I mean come on
mean looking back on it I mean come on
mean looking back on it I mean come on you know we see now with the removal of
you know we see now with the removal of
you know we see now with the removal of the headphone jack and everything you
the headphone jack and everything you
the headphone jack and everything you know like it also didn’t go over well no
know like it also didn’t go over well no
know like it also didn’t go over well no it didn’t go over well but I suspect
it didn’t go over well but I suspect
it didn’t go over well but I suspect that you know looking back on it in few
that you know looking back on it in few
that you know looking back on it in few years we’re not going to worry too much
years we’re not going to worry too much
years we’re not going to worry too much about that so right I guess it’s
about that so right I guess it’s
about that so right I guess it’s interesting like looking back on that
interesting like looking back on that
interesting like looking back on that kind of an incident it’s funny now you
kind of an incident it’s funny now you
kind of an incident it’s funny now you know to have you call me oh because at
know to have you call me oh because at
know to have you call me oh because at the time I think I was all of 21 and you
the time I think I was all of 21 and you
the time I think I was all of 21 and you know like it’s interesting you know we
know like it’s interesting you know we
know like it’s interesting you know we sometimes lament you know like oh these
sometimes lament you know like oh these
sometimes lament you know like oh these changes in technology and why are they
changes in technology and why are they
changes in technology and why are they taking out these features but it does
taking out these features but it does
taking out these features but it does move forward and sometimes the right
move forward and sometimes the right
move forward and sometimes the right answer is to take stuff out so
answer is to take stuff out so
answer is to take stuff out so simplicity can be good yes exactly now
simplicity can be good yes exactly now
simplicity can be good yes exactly now on that score I have to ask you you know
on that score I have to ask you you know
on that score I have to ask you you know back in the day the big question was
back in the day the big question was
back in the day the big question was Commodore Atari you know Amiga you know
Commodore Atari you know Amiga you know
Commodore Atari you know Amiga you know whatever iPhone or Android
I will thing I will plead ignorance I
I will thing I will plead ignorance I don’t know enough about the Android my
don’t know enough about the Android my
don’t know enough about the Android my my older son is a technology junkie I
my older son is a technology junkie I
my older son is a technology junkie I have no idea where he would have gotten
have no idea where he would have gotten
have no idea where he would have gotten that
that
that entity but he has had an iPhone from I
entity but he has had an iPhone from I
entity but he has had an iPhone from I may be the first model as soon as they
may be the first model as soon as they
may be the first model as soon as they came out so I get his hand me downs oh I
came out so I get his hand me downs oh I
came out so I get his hand me downs oh I see it was huh so so you get it you just
see it was huh so so you get it you just
see it was huh so so you get it you just get whatever gets in I always have you
get whatever gets in I always have you
get whatever gets in I always have you know one or two generations back so you
know one or two generations back so you
know one or two generations back so you know I’ve got the seven plus I’m
know I’ve got the seven plus I’m
know I’ve got the seven plus I’m thinking you’ve got maybe a six I got a
thinking you’ve got maybe a six I got a
thinking you’ve got maybe a six I got a sick it’s a six yeah yeah there we go
sick it’s a six yeah yeah there we go
sick it’s a six yeah yeah there we go yeah so same side yeah it’s but note but
yeah so same side yeah it’s but note but
yeah so same side yeah it’s but note but note that no headphone jack so yeah but
note that no headphone jack so yeah but
note that no headphone jack so yeah but yes I don’t know enough about the
yes I don’t know enough about the
yes I don’t know enough about the Android everything I know it says it’s a
Android everything I know it says it’s a
Android everything I know it says it’s a they’re great phones but I I don’t have
they’re great phones but I I don’t have
they’re great phones but I I don’t have any personal experience gotcha
any personal experience gotcha
any personal experience gotcha yeah I it’s for those that don’t know I
yeah I it’s for those that don’t know I
yeah I it’s for those that don’t know I started a computer sales company as a
started a computer sales company as a
started a computer sales company as a teenager and I actually sold computers
teenager and I actually sold computers
teenager and I actually sold computers manufactured by the Tramel family for
manufactured by the Tramel family for
manufactured by the Tramel family for many years
many years
many years and went on to you know be one of the
and went on to you know be one of the
and went on to you know be one of the larger Atari dealers in the United
larger Atari dealers in the United
larger Atari dealers in the United States in the early 90s so this is kind
States in the early 90s so this is kind
States in the early 90s so this is kind of all coming for us full circle for me
of all coming for us full circle for me
of all coming for us full circle for me and we were excited to be able to bring
and we were excited to be able to bring
and we were excited to be able to bring Leonard here so my final question for
Leonard here so my final question for
Leonard here so my final question for you is are you optimistic about
you is are you optimistic about
you is are you optimistic about societies to kind of ability to increase
societies to kind of ability to increase
societies to kind of ability to increase its ability for critical thinking it
its ability for critical thinking it
its ability for critical thinking it seems like that’s something that is
seems like that’s something that is
seems like that’s something that is maybe missing right now and what do you
maybe missing right now and what do you
maybe missing right now and what do you think if you look at a lot of the talks
think if you look at a lot of the talks
think if you look at a lot of the talks that we’ve heard over the last day and a
that we’ve heard over the last day and a
that we’ve heard over the last day and a half many of those problems are the
half many of those problems are the
half many of those problems are the result of insufficient critical thinking
result of insufficient critical thinking
result of insufficient critical thinking understanding why these people make
understanding why these people make
understanding why these people make mistakes understanding what it is about
mistakes understanding what it is about
mistakes understanding what it is about the way human cognition works i I’m I’m
the way human cognition works i I’m I’m
the way human cognition works i I’m I’m optimistic because I’m involved in
optimistic because I’m involved in
optimistic because I’m involved in trying to fix that there are a couple of
trying to fix that there are a couple of
trying to fix that there are a couple of organizations that I’m involved with
organizations that I’m involved with
organizations that I’m involved with that actually actively promote these
that actually actively promote these
that actually actively promote these things and if we don’t get it right
things and if we don’t get it right
things and if we don’t get it right we’re all dead anyway so right it’ll be
we’re all dead anyway so right it’ll be
we’re all dead anyway so right it’ll be fine it’ll be fine
fine it’ll be fine
fine it’ll be fine yeah exactly alright well you know
yeah exactly alright well you know
yeah exactly alright well you know hopefully we managed to heal ourselves
hopefully we managed to heal ourselves
hopefully we managed to heal ourselves with this problem and I can’t thank you
with this problem and I can’t thank you
with this problem and I can’t thank you enough for coming if you want to check
enough for coming if you want to check
enough for coming if you want to check out the film I believe the website is
out the film I believe the website is
out the film I believe the website is 8-bit generation comm I believe that
8-bit generation comm I believe that
8-bit generation comm I believe that it’s there’s a Kickstarter for some
it’s there’s a Kickstarter for some
it’s there’s a Kickstarter for some other films in the series and you know
other films in the series and you know
other films in the series and you know check it
check it
check it it’s worth educating yourself on the
it’s worth educating yourself on the
it’s worth educating yourself on the subject I think you know with all the
subject I think you know with all the
subject I think you know with all the things going on with Raspberry Pi and
things going on with Raspberry Pi and
things going on with Raspberry Pi and whatnot right now we’re kind of going
whatnot right now we’re kind of going
whatnot right now we’re kind of going through another wave of this but it’s a
through another wave of this but it’s a
through another wave of this but it’s a little different so you know check that
little different so you know check that
little different so you know check that stuff out and learn what what this man’s
stuff out and learn what what this man’s
stuff out and learn what what this man’s incredible family has accomplished it’s
incredible family has accomplished it’s
incredible family has accomplished it’s worth worth learning about so thank you
worth worth learning about so thank you
worth worth learning about so thank you again thank you much you’re very welcome
again thank you much you’re very welcome
again thank you much you’re very welcome [Applause]
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