there we go okay we are live with another google hangout I’m excited today
another google hangout I’m excited today
another google hangout I’m excited today to have one of my fans on with me Deepak
to have one of my fans on with me Deepak
to have one of my fans on with me Deepak Shukla who is doing an interview series
Shukla who is doing an interview series
Shukla who is doing an interview series talking to entrepreneurs and thought
talking to entrepreneurs and thought
talking to entrepreneurs and thought leaders and asked me if I would come on
leaders and asked me if I would come on
leaders and asked me if I would come on and answer some of his questions and
and answer some of his questions and
and answer some of his questions and some questions that I haven’t been asked
some questions that I haven’t been asked
some questions that I haven’t been asked before so I’m a little nervous but here
before so I’m a little nervous but here
before so I’m a little nervous but here we go over to you Deepak let’s start it
we go over to you Deepak let’s start it
we go over to you Deepak let’s start it thank you and Evans audience really
thank you and Evans audience really
thank you and Evans audience really great to meet you I’m really excited
great to meet you I’m really excited
great to meet you I’m really excited about this interview and as Ivan right
about this interview and as Ivan right
about this interview and as Ivan right he said there’s a series of questions
he said there’s a series of questions
he said there’s a series of questions that relate to intrapreneurs actually
that relate to intrapreneurs actually
that relate to intrapreneurs actually people that are looking to do
people that are looking to do
people that are looking to do entrepreneurial things within within
entrepreneurial things within within
entrepreneurial things within within companies that they already work in and
companies that they already work in and
companies that they already work in and also stuff that relates to kind of your
also stuff that relates to kind of your
also stuff that relates to kind of your career perhaps before you became an
career perhaps before you became an
career perhaps before you became an entrepreneur as well as during so I mean
entrepreneur as well as during so I mean
entrepreneur as well as during so I mean I’ll kick it right off and if you could
I’ll kick it right off and if you could
I’ll kick it right off and if you could describe your career journey in three
describe your career journey in three
describe your career journey in three sentences to an absolute stranger what
sentences to an absolute stranger what
sentences to an absolute stranger what would those three sentences be we’re
would those three sentences be we’re
would those three sentences be we’re short on time here you making me think
short on time here you making me think
short on time here you making me think my career journey in three sentences um
my career journey in three sentences um
my career journey in three sentences um let’s see um turn down my dream job
let’s see um turn down my dream job
let’s see um turn down my dream job started my own business and sucked
started my own business and sucked
started my own business and sucked followed my passion and turn my dreams
followed my passion and turn my dreams
followed my passion and turn my dreams into a reality Wow okay I’m impressed
into a reality Wow okay I’m impressed
into a reality Wow okay I’m impressed looks really pithy and well put together
looks really pithy and well put together
looks really pithy and well put together answer and reflective of what you’ve
answer and reflective of what you’ve
answer and reflective of what you’ve done okay awesome awesome this is going
done okay awesome awesome this is going
done okay awesome awesome this is going to be an easier one for you then and
to be an easier one for you then and
to be an easier one for you then and what is the most useful life hack that
what is the most useful life hack that
what is the most useful life hack that you use on a day-to-day basis would ask
you use on a day-to-day basis would ask
you use on a day-to-day basis would ask to one software in terms of stuff you
to one software in terms of stuff you
to one software in terms of stuff you use online and then one real world
use online and then one real world
use online and then one real world whatever you choose um interesting
whatever you choose um interesting
whatever you choose um interesting software I run a lot of my stuff through
software I run a lot of my stuff through
software I run a lot of my stuff through gmail so maybe gmail it’s a kind of
gmail so maybe gmail it’s a kind of
gmail so maybe gmail it’s a kind of boring answer but uh gmail is my to-do
boring answer but uh gmail is my to-do
boring answer but uh gmail is my to-do list right I have everything so
list right I have everything so
list right I have everything so by gmail it’s the main way to contact me
by gmail it’s the main way to contact me
by gmail it’s the main way to contact me when I need to do something those remind
when I need to do something those remind
when I need to do something those remind myself I sent myself an email um so
myself I sent myself an email um so
myself I sent myself an email um so that’s probably that’s probably my go-to
that’s probably that’s probably my go-to
that’s probably that’s probably my go-to software tool although it’s really super
software tool although it’s really super
software tool although it’s really super boring uh maybe one that kind of on top
boring uh maybe one that kind of on top
boring uh maybe one that kind of on top of that it’s beyond I only ask your warm
of that it’s beyond I only ask your warm
of that it’s beyond I only ask your warm but I create a dashboard so I have a
but I create a dashboard so I have a
but I create a dashboard so I have a home page that i use on my screen every
home page that i use on my screen every
home page that i use on my screen every day when I wake up as all the tools that
day when I wake up as all the tools that
day when I wake up as all the tools that I need that I’ve we’ve just programmed
I need that I’ve we’ve just programmed
I need that I’ve we’ve just programmed it ourselves but easy quick links to all
it ourselves but easy quick links to all
it ourselves but easy quick links to all the different places that I use a
the different places that I use a
the different places that I use a regular basis um personal what’s in
regular basis um personal what’s in
regular basis um personal what’s in light pack I stand up desk has changed
light pack I stand up desk has changed
light pack I stand up desk has changed my life sending here stand up desk I’ve
my life sending here stand up desk I’ve
my life sending here stand up desk I’ve been doing it for I don’t know maybe
been doing it for I don’t know maybe
been doing it for I don’t know maybe three or four years now I got rid of all
three or four years now I got rid of all
three or four years now I got rid of all the pains in my knees and my lower back
the pains in my knees and my lower back
the pains in my knees and my lower back and a little bit healthier so that’s
and a little bit healthier so that’s
and a little bit healthier so that’s that’s my life hack okay all right also
that’s my life hack okay all right also
that’s my life hack okay all right also awesome also let’s disco okay could you
awesome also let’s disco okay could you
awesome also let’s disco okay could you describe for me what you’d consider to
describe for me what you’d consider to
describe for me what you’d consider to be the biggest aha moment you’ve had
be the biggest aha moment you’ve had
be the biggest aha moment you’ve had when it’s come to your own career what
when it’s come to your own career what
when it’s come to your own career what happened the biggest aha moment for me
happened the biggest aha moment for me
happened the biggest aha moment for me was realizing that I don’t have to come
was realizing that I don’t have to come
was realizing that I don’t have to come up with all the answers myself I was I
up with all the answers myself I was I
up with all the answers myself I was I remember I was struggling i was nineteen
remember I was struggling i was nineteen
remember I was struggling i was nineteen in my first business and just sucking
in my first business and just sucking
in my first business and just sucking hard you know making three hundred
hard you know making three hundred
hard you know making three hundred dollars a month and and everything I
dollars a month and and everything I
dollars a month and and everything I applied myself at before I had success
applied myself at before I had success
applied myself at before I had success with you know in academics if you work
with you know in academics if you work
with you know in academics if you work harder you’re gonna get higher grades
harder you’re gonna get higher grades
harder you’re gonna get higher grades and piano for practice I get you know I
and piano for practice I get you know I
and piano for practice I get you know I do better and here I was working on my
do better and here I was working on my
do better and here I was working on my business and I felt like I was trying
business and I felt like I was trying
business and I felt like I was trying lots and lots and lots and lots and lots
lots and lots and lots and lots and lots
lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and I just I wasn’t getting anywhere I
and I just I wasn’t getting anywhere I
and I just I wasn’t getting anywhere I was the worst period in my life and the
was the worst period in my life and the
was the worst period in my life and the most damaging to my self-esteem and
most damaging to my self-esteem and
most damaging to my self-esteem and self-worth and then my aha moment came
self-worth and then my aha moment came
self-worth and then my aha moment came when one you know I told my partner that
when one you know I told my partner that
when one you know I told my partner that I quit again which I ended up going back
I quit again which I ended up going back
I quit again which I ended up going back but um I realized I wasn’t the first guy
but um I realized I wasn’t the first guy
but um I realized I wasn’t the first guy to try to do this so I’ll selling
to try to do this so I’ll selling
to try to do this so I’ll selling software is biotech software and I
software is biotech software and I
software is biotech software and I realized I’m not the first guy to try to
realized I’m not the first guy to try to
realized I’m not the first guy to try to sell software before and I modeled
sell software before and I modeled
sell software before and I modeled Microsoft mcafee and into it and how
Microsoft mcafee and into it and how
Microsoft mcafee and into it and how they got started I don’t care how they
they got started I don’t care how they
they got started I don’t care how they make an extra million but how they got
make an extra million but how they got
make an extra million but how they got started and applied that to my business
started and applied that to my business
started and applied that to my business and I continue to apply it if I’m trying
and I continue to apply it if I’m trying
and I continue to apply it if I’m trying to learn something new I don’t try to
to learn something new I don’t try to
to learn something new I don’t try to just figure it all out from scratch
just figure it all out from scratch
just figure it all out from scratch myself I realize I’m not the first guy
myself I realize I’m not the first guy
myself I realize I’m not the first guy to try to figure this out okay okay
to try to figure this out okay okay
to try to figure this out okay okay that’s super but I really like that
that’s super but I really like that
that’s super but I really like that answer let’s let’s let’s dive into
answer let’s let’s let’s dive into
answer let’s let’s let’s dive into careers questions as well for some of
careers questions as well for some of
careers questions as well for some of the listeners that I have on my side do
the listeners that I have on my side do
the listeners that I have on my side do you think that the traditional resume
you think that the traditional resume
you think that the traditional resume will be dead within 10 years with the
will be dead within 10 years with the
will be dead within 10 years with the continual growth of LinkedIn obviously
continual growth of LinkedIn obviously
continual growth of LinkedIn obviously video etc haha I might be the wrong guy
video etc haha I might be the wrong guy
video etc haha I might be the wrong guy to ask this question because I have a
to ask this question because I have a
to ask this question because I have a very different hiring process I don’t
very different hiring process I don’t
very different hiring process I don’t even believe in a resume okay I don’t
even believe in a resume okay I don’t
even believe in a resume okay I don’t believe it finds a great you’re a great
believe it finds a great you’re a great
believe it finds a great you’re a great person to Austin and so I’d love to get
person to Austin and so I’d love to get
person to Austin and so I’d love to get her inside so I think the hiring process
her inside so I think the hiring process
her inside so I think the hiring process for most companies is broken where we’re
for most companies is broken where we’re
for most companies is broken where we’re hiring people based on their ability to
hiring people based on their ability to
hiring people based on their ability to write something on a piece of paper and
write something on a piece of paper and
write something on a piece of paper and a cover letter or resume their ability
a cover letter or resume their ability
a cover letter or resume their ability to do well in an interview which is
to do well in an interview which is
to do well in an interview which is usually the second step for people as
usually the second step for people as
usually the second step for people as opposed to actually doing the job that
opposed to actually doing the job that
opposed to actually doing the job that you’re hiring them to do you know if I’m
you’re hiring them to do you know if I’m
you’re hiring them to do you know if I’m hiring a computer programmer I don’t
hiring a computer programmer I don’t
hiring a computer programmer I don’t care how well he interviews when I’m
care how well he interviews when I’m
care how well he interviews when I’m talking to him face-to-face because I’m
talking to him face-to-face because I’m
talking to him face-to-face because I’m not hiring somebody who’s a communicator
not hiring somebody who’s a communicator
not hiring somebody who’s a communicator necessarily I’m hiring somebody for
necessarily I’m hiring somebody for
necessarily I’m hiring somebody for their programming skills and so my
their programming skills and so my
their programming skills and so my hiring process is super different and
hiring process is super different and
hiring process is super different and strange I which does not involve a CV or
strange I which does not involve a CV or
strange I which does not involve a CV or a cover letter or job interviews so in
a cover letter or job interviews so in
a cover letter or job interviews so in my world that’s already dead but I think
my world that’s already dead but I think
my world that’s already dead but I think it’s going to go more become more and
it’s going to go more become more and
it’s going to go more become more and more dead on going okay superb superb
more dead on going okay superb superb
more dead on going okay superb superb this is this is this is a this is a
this is this is this is a this is a
this is this is this is a this is a really interesting answer because i
really interesting answer because i
really interesting answer because i think that there’s people that do of
think that there’s people that do of
think that there’s people that do of course agree with you out there and
course agree with you out there and
course agree with you out there and second part of it is it dovetails really
second part of it is it dovetails really
second part of it is it dovetails really perfectly into the next question that I
perfectly into the next question that I
perfectly into the next question that I want to ask and because of your
want to ask and because of your
want to ask and because of your non-standard hiring process i’m really
non-standard hiring process i’m really
non-standard hiring process i’m really curious as to the answer could you
curious as to the answer could you
curious as to the answer could you describe the most memorable job
describe the most memorable job
describe the most memorable job interview you I ever had or you being
interview you I ever had or you being
interview you I ever had or you being all you’ve given um ah i was i was
all you’ve given um ah i was i was
all you’ve given um ah i was i was interviewing for a job with merrill
interviewing for a job with merrill
interviewing for a job with merrill lynch in my last year of university and
lynch in my last year of university and
lynch in my last year of university and i had to decide between doing my
i had to decide between doing my
i had to decide between doing my business and taking the
business and taking the
business and taking the maryland’s job which was my dream job at
maryland’s job which was my dream job at
maryland’s job which was my dream job at the time and I member i went to they
the time and I member i went to they
the time and I member i went to they flew me to the Wold of her story in New
flew me to the Wold of her story in New
flew me to the Wold of her story in New York and they were interviewing me and I
York and they were interviewing me and I
York and they were interviewing me and I was in the waiting room and heard people
was in the waiting room and heard people
was in the waiting room and heard people talk about the new you know president
talk about the new you know president
talk about the new you know president the Philippines coming in again and and
the Philippines coming in again and and
the Philippines coming in again and and I went into the job I went into the
I went into the job I went into the
I went into the job I went into the interview and I didn’t do a lot of
interview and I didn’t do a lot of
interview and I didn’t do a lot of preparation and and they asked me what
preparation and and they asked me what
preparation and and they asked me what what recently happened in the in the
what recently happened in the in the
what recently happened in the in the asia-pacific region that’s going to have
asia-pacific region that’s going to have
asia-pacific region that’s going to have an impact and so I said well there’s a
an impact and so I said well there’s a
an impact and so I said well there’s a new president the Philippines just
new president the Philippines just
new president the Philippines just because I heard it in that room and then
because I heard it in that room and then
because I heard it in that room and then they said well what impact is that going
they said well what impact is that going
they said well what impact is that going to have on the region like I had no idea
to have on the region like I had no idea
to have on the region like I had no idea um and and I don’t know I just felt
um and and I don’t know I just felt
um and and I don’t know I just felt obviously I like i bombed out of that I
obviously I like i bombed out of that I
obviously I like i bombed out of that I walked out of that room knowing
walked out of that room knowing
walked out of that room knowing immediately that there was no way i was
immediately that there was no way i was
immediately that there was no way i was getting that job i had done zero
getting that job i had done zero
getting that job i had done zero preparation for it um but also struck me
preparation for it um but also struck me
preparation for it um but also struck me that that’s a really broken way to
that that’s a really broken way to
that that’s a really broken way to interview and to hire somebody that my
interview and to hire somebody that my
interview and to hire somebody that my job performance my abilities to help
job performance my abilities to help
job performance my abilities to help them get results is based on if y know
them get results is based on if y know
them get results is based on if y know about these current events that are
about these current events that are
about these current events that are happening um so that was probably the
happening um so that was probably the
happening um so that was probably the most murmur when I walked out of there
most murmur when I walked out of there
most murmur when I walked out of there knowing that like there’s no way I’m
knowing that like there’s no way I’m
knowing that like there’s no way I’m getting this job not even close I moved
getting this job not even close I moved
getting this job not even close I moved on um in terms of interviews I’ve given
on um in terms of interviews I’ve given
on um in terms of interviews I’ve given I haven’t done that many and I don’t
I haven’t done that many and I don’t
I haven’t done that many and I don’t know if there’s anything super memorable
know if there’s anything super memorable
know if there’s anything super memorable um again I try to avoid interviews yeah
um again I try to avoid interviews yeah
um again I try to avoid interviews yeah yes you’re saying my process I think we
yes you’re saying my process I think we
yes you’re saying my process I think we had said that knowledge is really
had said that knowledge is really
had said that knowledge is really interesting and I do agree there’s a
interesting and I do agree there’s a
interesting and I do agree there’s a huge divide between what you’re asked
huge divide between what you’re asked
huge divide between what you’re asked often times versus what you do and it’s
often times versus what you do and it’s
often times versus what you do and it’s like you know why ask this when what I
like you know why ask this when what I
like you know why ask this when what I mean in doing is going to be entirely
mean in doing is going to be entirely
mean in doing is going to be entirely different so what advice would you have
different so what advice would you have
different so what advice would you have been for someone what are the most key
been for someone what are the most key
been for someone what are the most key things for you first 90 days even 30
things for you first 90 days even 30
things for you first 90 days even 30 days in a new job to make sure that you
days in a new job to make sure that you
days in a new job to make sure that you can have an impact if it’s possible
can have an impact if it’s possible
can have an impact if it’s possible within such a short period of time yeah
within such a short period of time yeah
within such a short period of time yeah I think it’s looking at doing not just
I think it’s looking at doing not just
I think it’s looking at doing not just what you’re hired to do but but more so
what you’re hired to do but but more so
what you’re hired to do but but more so obviously you’re hard to do a certain
obviously you’re hard to do a certain
obviously you’re hard to do a certain role but the guys who move up the guys
role but the guys who move up the guys
role but the guys who move up the guys who get the the credit the guys who get
who get the the credit the guys who get
who get the the credit the guys who get the promotions you know the guys who get
the promotions you know the guys who get
the promotions you know the guys who get those those bigger positions they seek
those those bigger positions they seek
those those bigger positions they seek to understand what the business is all
to understand what the business is all
to understand what the business is all about and take on more responsibilities
about and take on more responsibilities
about and take on more responsibilities so you know in those first 90 days
so you know in those first 90 days
so you know in those first 90 days you’re proving yourself and I’d be
you’re proving yourself and I’d be
you’re proving yourself and I’d be looking at how can I get more involved
looking at how can I get more involved
looking at how can I get more involved in the company how can I get as close to
in the company how can I get as close to
in the company how can I get as close to ideally the CEO is faucet but depending
ideally the CEO is faucet but depending
ideally the CEO is faucet but depending on the size of the company that’s not
on the size of the company that’s not
on the size of the company that’s not always possible but but taking on more
always possible but but taking on more
always possible but but taking on more like make your manager’s job easier take
like make your manager’s job easier take
like make your manager’s job easier take on more responsibility there’s no
on more responsibility there’s no
on more responsibility there’s no manager no boss is gonna say no don’t do
manager no boss is gonna say no don’t do
manager no boss is gonna say no don’t do less you know right so show initiative
less you know right so show initiative
less you know right so show initiative right yes call show gumption show the
right yes call show gumption show the
right yes call show gumption show the willingness and desire to do more than
willingness and desire to do more than
willingness and desire to do more than just what you were hired to do because
just what you were hired to do because
just what you were hired to do because those are the star employees who rise up
those are the star employees who rise up
those are the star employees who rise up quickly I great no I completely can
quickly I great no I completely can
quickly I great no I completely can cover that and I was excited to ask you
cover that and I was excited to ask you
cover that and I was excited to ask you this question because if someone was to
this question because if someone was to
this question because if someone was to ask you Evan in your view what’s the
ask you Evan in your view what’s the
ask you Evan in your view what’s the secret to success what would you say to
secret to success what would you say to
secret to success what would you say to that question you’ve got to love what
that question you’ve got to love what
that question you’ve got to love what you do that one’s an easy one for me ah
you do that one’s an easy one for me ah
you do that one’s an easy one for me ah yeah a lot of people I know the people
yeah a lot of people I know the people
yeah a lot of people I know the people listening on your you know program there
listening on your you know program there
listening on your you know program there you’re looking for jobs and trying to
you’re looking for jobs and trying to
you’re looking for jobs and trying to figure that out um a lot of people hate
figure that out um a lot of people hate
figure that out um a lot of people hate what they do a lot of people wake up
what they do a lot of people wake up
what they do a lot of people wake up every day and go to a nine-to-five job
every day and go to a nine-to-five job
every day and go to a nine-to-five job and they’re living for the weekends and
and they’re living for the weekends and
and they’re living for the weekends and evenings and they started on a path that
evenings and they started on a path that
evenings and they started on a path that they may have had some interest in or
they may have had some interest in or
they may have had some interest in or they may have had some you know family
they may have had some you know family
they may have had some you know family pressures to say hey you need to go and
pressures to say hey you need to go and
pressures to say hey you need to go and be this accountant or lawyer or doctor
be this accountant or lawyer or doctor
be this accountant or lawyer or doctor or some professional um and and you
or some professional um and and you
or some professional um and and you found that yeah as you practice you get
found that yeah as you practice you get
found that yeah as you practice you get better at that skill but you don’t love
better at that skill but you don’t love
better at that skill but you don’t love what you do and so you’re you’re in I
what you do and so you’re you’re in I
what you do and so you’re you’re in I don’t know you’re for me that’s hell
don’t know you’re for me that’s hell
don’t know you’re for me that’s hell like doing stuff that you’re not excited
like doing stuff that you’re not excited
like doing stuff that you’re not excited about every day is not is not a way to
about every day is not is not a way to
about every day is not is not a way to live for me and it’s never been easier
live for me and it’s never been easier
live for me and it’s never been easier to follow your passion and turn that
to follow your passion and turn that
to follow your passion and turn that into a serious opportunity for yourself
into a serious opportunity for yourself
into a serious opportunity for yourself you can make millions of dollars as a
you can make millions of dollars as a
you can make millions of dollars as a professional gamer you can make millions
professional gamer you can make millions
professional gamer you can make millions of dollars as a youtuber like these
of dollars as a youtuber like these
of dollars as a youtuber like these things didn’t exist before and a lot of
things didn’t exist before and a lot of
things didn’t exist before and a lot of the advice that we’re getting our from
the advice that we’re getting our from
the advice that we’re getting our from people who a lot of the advice that you
people who a lot of the advice that you
people who a lot of the advice that you get from your parents some guidance
get from your parents some guidance
get from your parents some guidance counselors from people who are experts
counselors from people who are experts
counselors from people who are experts are never actually live their dreams
are never actually live their dreams
are never actually live their dreams never
never
never took any major risk and they’re living
took any major risk and they’re living
took any major risk and they’re living in the world that is really out of touch
in the world that is really out of touch
in the world that is really out of touch is what’s possible right now and so are
is what’s possible right now and so are
is what’s possible right now and so are those the people that you really want to
those the people that you really want to
those the people that you really want to listen to and I’m a father so I I you
listen to and I’m a father so I I you
listen to and I’m a father so I I you know my son is only five years old so
know my son is only five years old so
know my son is only five years old so he’s not talking about career advice yet
he’s not talking about career advice yet
he’s not talking about career advice yet but I you know I worried that I’m not
but I you know I worried that I’m not
but I you know I worried that I’m not going to be able to give him the right
going to be able to give him the right
going to be able to give him the right advice and and you know I think people
advice and and you know I think people
advice and and you know I think people should follow their dreams follow your
should follow their dreams follow your
should follow their dreams follow your passion if it doesn’t make sense you’ll
passion if it doesn’t make sense you’ll
passion if it doesn’t make sense you’ll figure out a way to make it work and
figure out a way to make it work and
figure out a way to make it work and that success you look at the top people
that success you look at the top people
that success you look at the top people in any field any field where there’s a
in any field any field where there’s a
in any field any field where there’s a corporation or business the people who
corporation or business the people who
corporation or business the people who are at the top they love what they do
are at the top they love what they do
are at the top they love what they do they live for it and you’ve got to find
they live for it and you’ve got to find
they live for it and you’ve got to find that and not settle for something that’s
that and not settle for something that’s
that and not settle for something that’s just okay okay okay and could you on a
just okay okay okay and could you on a
just okay okay okay and could you on a personal note could you tell me a little
personal note could you tell me a little
personal note could you tell me a little bit about one of the common questions
bit about one of the common questions
bit about one of the common questions that I get when it comes to people that
that I get when it comes to people that
that I get when it comes to people that either thinking about a career change or
either thinking about a career change or
either thinking about a career change or are going into the world of employment
are going into the world of employment
are going into the world of employment or there’s this struggle to Evan I’m not
or there’s this struggle to Evan I’m not
or there’s this struggle to Evan I’m not really sure what it is that I want to do
really sure what it is that I want to do
really sure what it is that I want to do that you know sometimes I get told arts
that you know sometimes I get told arts
that you know sometimes I get told arts it’s easy if you because you seem to
it’s easy if you because you seem to
it’s easy if you because you seem to have a clearer pot how is it that you
have a clearer pot how is it that you
have a clearer pot how is it that you found your path was there a process was
found your path was there a process was
found your path was there a process was there a singular moment was it
there a singular moment was it
there a singular moment was it serendipity how is it that you found
serendipity how is it that you found
serendipity how is it that you found your passion because I’m often time
your passion because I’m often time
your passion because I’m often time that’s been a big problem for that I get
that’s been a big problem for that I get
that’s been a big problem for that I get asked about yeah a great question and
asked about yeah a great question and
asked about yeah a great question and ennis by trying and I was helping
ennis by trying and I was helping
ennis by trying and I was helping somebody this morning with the same
somebody this morning with the same
somebody this morning with the same problem it’s by trying you don’t you
problem it’s by trying you don’t you
problem it’s by trying you don’t you don’t find your passion by thinking
don’t find your passion by thinking
don’t find your passion by thinking about it you find that by trying stuff
about it you find that by trying stuff
about it you find that by trying stuff and so many people are afraid to try
and so many people are afraid to try
and so many people are afraid to try even on the small scale they’re afraid
even on the small scale they’re afraid
even on the small scale they’re afraid to try and and they’re just continuing
to try and and they’re just continuing
to try and and they’re just continuing on with their unhappy existence so if
on with their unhappy existence so if
on with their unhappy existence so if you’re excited by the opportunity of
you’re excited by the opportunity of
you’re excited by the opportunity of doing something go out and try it on a
doing something go out and try it on a
doing something go out and try it on a small scale and and see if you fall in
small scale and and see if you fall in
small scale and and see if you fall in love with it and it’s like if you’re
love with it and it’s like if you’re
love with it and it’s like if you’re trying to find the perfect wife or
trying to find the perfect wife or
trying to find the perfect wife or perfect husband yeah you can look at it
perfect husband yeah you can look at it
perfect husband yeah you can look at it on paper as much as you want but you’re
on paper as much as you want but you’re
on paper as much as you want but you’re not going to know if that’s the right
not going to know if that’s the right
not going to know if that’s the right person for you until you try right until
person for you until you try right until
person for you until you try right until you ask her out you till you ask for her
you ask her out you till you ask for her
you ask her out you till you ask for her phone number you can find out a lot more
phone number you can find out a lot more
phone number you can find out a lot more in that first date with her than the
in that first date with her than the
in that first date with her than the months of thinking about and planning on
months of thinking about and planning on
months of thinking about and planning on who that right perfect fit is for you
who that right perfect fit is for you
who that right perfect fit is for you and often times you get surprised you
and often times you get surprised you
and often times you get surprised you know I I do a lot in the salsa world
know I I do a lot in the salsa world
know I I do a lot in the salsa world I’m a salsa dancer I’m a DJ I’m an owner
I’m a salsa dancer I’m a DJ I’m an owner
I’m a salsa dancer I’m a DJ I’m an owner in a business I’ll spend upwards of 25
in a business I’ll spend upwards of 25
in a business I’ll spend upwards of 25 hours a week doing salsa stuff and and
hours a week doing salsa stuff and and
hours a week doing salsa stuff and and on paper looks it looks it would be like
on paper looks it looks it would be like
on paper looks it looks it would be like a terrible opportunity for me I’m too
a terrible opportunity for me I’m too
a terrible opportunity for me I’m too tall I don’t speak Spanish I take big
tall I don’t speak Spanish I take big
tall I don’t speak Spanish I take big steps I didn’t have salsa growing up
steps I didn’t have salsa growing up
steps I didn’t have salsa growing up there’s all these things that on paper
there’s all these things that on paper
there’s all these things that on paper look bad for me and if I went into it
look bad for me and if I went into it
look bad for me and if I went into it thinking this has to be my next business
thinking this has to be my next business
thinking this has to be my next business opportunity I would say no way it
opportunity I would say no way it
opportunity I would say no way it doesn’t make any sense but I just went
doesn’t make any sense but I just went
doesn’t make any sense but I just went and I tried for fun and I fell in love
and I tried for fun and I fell in love
and I tried for fun and I fell in love with it and I got better and I became a
with it and I got better and I became a
with it and I got better and I became a professional dancer and was able to DJ
professional dancer and was able to DJ
professional dancer and was able to DJ and teach and so you never know what
and teach and so you never know what
and teach and so you never know what you’re gonna fall in love with but you
you’re gonna fall in love with but you
you’re gonna fall in love with but you gotta try and there’s some things you’ll
gotta try and there’s some things you’ll
gotta try and there’s some things you’ll try you’ll know instantly that’s not for
try you’ll know instantly that’s not for
try you’ll know instantly that’s not for me rock climbing I hate rock climbing I
me rock climbing I hate rock climbing I
me rock climbing I hate rock climbing I can’t stand it you know I love all the
can’t stand it you know I love all the
can’t stand it you know I love all the rock climbers out there but for me the
rock climbers out there but for me the
rock climbers out there but for me the thing in your crotch and like I’m afraid
thing in your crotch and like I’m afraid
thing in your crotch and like I’m afraid of heights and like I can’t do it and so
of heights and like I can’t do it and so
of heights and like I can’t do it and so I know that I know I went once I know
I know that I know I went once I know
I know that I know I went once I know I’m not going back I fell in love with
I’m not going back I fell in love with
I’m not going back I fell in love with salsa and that became a business
salsa and that became a business
salsa and that became a business opportunity for me and just something
opportunity for me and just something
opportunity for me and just something very fulfilling for me as well and so if
very fulfilling for me as well and so if
very fulfilling for me as well and so if you’re not sure what you want to do
you’re not sure what you want to do
you’re not sure what you want to do that’s normal that’s okay that’s cool ah
that’s normal that’s okay that’s cool ah
that’s normal that’s okay that’s cool ah try I landed on this helping
try I landed on this helping
try I landed on this helping entrepreneurs because I I built the
entrepreneurs because I I built the
entrepreneurs because I I built the business and i sold it i was invited to
business and i sold it i was invited to
business and i sold it i was invited to go and speak at an event and only three
go and speak at an event and only three
go and speak at an event and only three people ended up showing you this free
people ended up showing you this free
people ended up showing you this free event and i was a little disappointed
event and i was a little disappointed
event and i was a little disappointed but uh but i loved it like the three
but uh but i loved it like the three
but uh but i loved it like the three people who came out and listen to me I
people who came out and listen to me I
people who came out and listen to me I loved it I fell in love with it I said I
loved it I fell in love with it I said I
loved it I fell in love with it I said I have to find a way to keep doing this
have to find a way to keep doing this
have to find a way to keep doing this and I would never have known if I didn’t
and I would never have known if I didn’t
and I would never have known if I didn’t go and try so try things even if it’s a
go and try so try things even if it’s a
go and try so try things even if it’s a little you got a strict your comfort
little you got a strict your comfort
little you got a strict your comfort zone see what you fall in love with and
zone see what you fall in love with and
zone see what you fall in love with and then find ways to continue to expand it
then find ways to continue to expand it
then find ways to continue to expand it I would love to be able to take that
I would love to be able to take that
I would love to be able to take that well thank God it’s recorded and
well thank God it’s recorded and
well thank God it’s recorded and repeated leviton to my to my clients and
repeated leviton to my to my clients and
repeated leviton to my to my clients and saying when they all smell said well
saying when they all smell said well
saying when they all smell said well this is what Evan said I i concur
this is what Evan said I i concur
this is what Evan said I i concur completely okay I know that we learn a
completely okay I know that we learn a
completely okay I know that we learn a few minutes left so I’m gonna ask you
few minutes left so I’m gonna ask you
few minutes left so I’m gonna ask you some tell me some some quicker questions
some tell me some some quicker questions
some tell me some some quicker questions and tell me one thing that I as of yet
and tell me one thing that I as of yet
and tell me one thing that I as of yet could not YouTube or Google about you
could not YouTube or Google about you
could not YouTube or Google about you that both our audiences don’t know about
that both our audiences don’t know about
that both our audiences don’t know about to you ah that’s interesting i share a
to you ah that’s interesting i share a
to you ah that’s interesting i share a lot on my channel so um what’s
lot on my channel so um what’s
lot on my channel so um what’s interesting that people don’t know about
interesting that people don’t know about
interesting that people don’t know about me hmm I was a bad student when I
me hmm I was a bad student when I
me hmm I was a bad student when I started I was a bad student growing up
started I was a bad student growing up
started I was a bad student growing up and I used my sister’s always did well
and I used my sister’s always did well
and I used my sister’s always did well and I used to always have that annual
and I used to always have that annual
and I used to always have that annual sit down with my parents where we looked
sit down with my parents where we looked
sit down with my parents where we looked at my report card and and and they would
at my report card and and and they would
at my report card and and and they would always tell me you are my mom’s last
always tell me you are my mom’s last
always tell me you are my mom’s last name is Chris truly so you are cuz truly
name is Chris truly so you are cuz truly
name is Chris truly so you are cuz truly Carmichael and you could do better than
Carmichael and you could do better than
Carmichael and you could do better than this and I was always positive but I
this and I was always positive but I
this and I was always positive but I always felt bad that I was
always felt bad that I was
always felt bad that I was underperforming and then in my last year
underperforming and then in my last year
underperforming and then in my last year in high school I over achieved my my own
in high school I over achieved my my own
in high school I over achieved my my own expectations for myself were beyond what
expectations for myself were beyond what
expectations for myself were beyond what my parents expected of me and that was
my parents expected of me and that was
my parents expected of me and that was interesting change where I was always
interesting change where I was always
interesting change where I was always trying to live up to their expectations
trying to live up to their expectations
trying to live up to their expectations and then a big change happen when I
and then a big change happen when I
and then a big change happen when I started believing in myself more than
started believing in myself more than
started believing in myself more than than anybody else and I had higher
than anybody else and I had higher
than anybody else and I had higher demands on myself than anybody else and
demands on myself than anybody else and
demands on myself than anybody else and I started to change my life so okay
I started to change my life so okay
I started to change my life so okay there yeah something I haven’t said
there yeah something I haven’t said
there yeah something I haven’t said before one more question perfect ok this
before one more question perfect ok this
before one more question perfect ok this is I’m quite curious to get your insight
is I’m quite curious to get your insight
is I’m quite curious to get your insight into this and I was I was I was asked
into this and I was I was I was asked
into this and I was I was I was asked this by someone who’d pursued
this by someone who’d pursued
this by someone who’d pursued entrepreneurship and then decide was
entrepreneurship and then decide was
entrepreneurship and then decide was reentering employment and this is what
reentering employment and this is what
reentering employment and this is what he had said to me he said I have this
he had said to me he said I have this
he had said to me he said I have this feeling that the idea of
feeling that the idea of
feeling that the idea of entrepreneurship and following your
entrepreneurship and following your
entrepreneurship and following your dream is kind of mis-sold popularly
dream is kind of mis-sold popularly
dream is kind of mis-sold popularly because he said that it’s equally as if
because he said that it’s equally as if
because he said that it’s equally as if not harder than actually pursuing a
not harder than actually pursuing a
not harder than actually pursuing a career and he says that he feels that
career and he says that he feels that
career and he says that he feels that there’s a little sense of an illusion
there’s a little sense of an illusion
there’s a little sense of an illusion almost as what he spoke of because he
almost as what he spoke of because he
almost as what he spoke of because he said that I tried really hard and I did
said that I tried really hard and I did
said that I tried really hard and I did things I was passionate and it didn’t
things I was passionate and it didn’t
things I was passionate and it didn’t work out what would you say to someone
work out what would you say to someone
work out what would you say to someone who kind of comes to you with this this
who kind of comes to you with this this
who kind of comes to you with this this kind of position it is harder starting
kind of position it is harder starting
kind of position it is harder starting the business is the hardest thing you’re
the business is the hardest thing you’re
the business is the hardest thing you’re ever going to do in your life if you
ever going to do in your life if you
ever going to do in your life if you think it’s easy you’re in the wrong
think it’s easy you’re in the wrong
think it’s easy you’re in the wrong business ah and you have to be a little
business ah and you have to be a little
business ah and you have to be a little bit crazy honestly uh because it’s so
bit crazy honestly uh because it’s so
bit crazy honestly uh because it’s so hard that the only thing that keeps you
hard that the only thing that keeps you
hard that the only thing that keeps you going is that deep passion for what
going is that deep passion for what
going is that deep passion for what you’re doing it doesn’t work out at the
you’re doing it doesn’t work out at the
you’re doing it doesn’t work out at the start it like it never works out at the
start it like it never works out at the
start it like it never works out at the start you make so many mistakes you’re
start you make so many mistakes you’re
start you make so many mistakes you’re losing money you’re not getting the
losing money you’re not getting the
losing money you’re not getting the results as quickly
results as quickly
results as quickly you want your self-worth is in the
you want your self-worth is in the
you want your self-worth is in the toilet because you’re having no success
toilet because you’re having no success
toilet because you’re having no success uh and it’s just a sense of what you’re
uh and it’s just a sense of what you’re
uh and it’s just a sense of what you’re doing is right and you’re so passionate
doing is right and you’re so passionate
doing is right and you’re so passionate about it that you have to keep going
about it that you have to keep going
about it that you have to keep going that that me how that when I went to
that that me how that when I went to
that that me how that when I went to speak to entrepreneurs in that group you
speak to entrepreneurs in that group you
speak to entrepreneurs in that group you know I didn’t know if I’d ever make
know I didn’t know if I’d ever make
know I didn’t know if I’d ever make money doing okay I can only get three
money doing okay I can only get three
money doing okay I can only get three people to come out to a free event how
people to come out to a free event how
people to come out to a free event how am I going to make this a business
am I going to make this a business
am I going to make this a business opportunity there’s no way but I almost
opportunity there’s no way but I almost
opportunity there’s no way but I almost didn’t care like I knew it filled me up
didn’t care like I knew it filled me up
didn’t care like I knew it filled me up so much that I had to find a way to keep
so much that I had to find a way to keep
so much that I had to find a way to keep doing it and eventually I turned that
doing it and eventually I turned that
doing it and eventually I turned that into a business but uh you’re going to
into a business but uh you’re going to
into a business but uh you’re going to make so many mistakes at the start and
make so many mistakes at the start and
make so many mistakes at the start and if you think that doing a business is a
if you think that doing a business is a
if you think that doing a business is a sec seem fun and cool it is but it’s
sec seem fun and cool it is but it’s
sec seem fun and cool it is but it’s also the hardest thing you’re going to
also the hardest thing you’re going to
also the hardest thing you’re going to do in your life so you got to be
do in your life so you got to be
do in your life so you got to be prepared for the hard work I we’re at
prepared for the hard work I we’re at
prepared for the hard work I we’re at the time Deepak think that are the
the time Deepak think that are the
the time Deepak think that are the questions maybe we’ll do it again for
questions maybe we’ll do it again for
questions maybe we’ll do it again for people who want to learn more about you
people who want to learn more about you
people who want to learn more about you where can they go the CV guide com one
where can they go the CV guide com one
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word the CV guide com you’ll find Evans
word the CV guide com you’ll find Evans answers up there shortly thank you so
answers up there shortly thank you so
answers up there shortly thank you so much Evan for your time I said it
much Evan for your time I said it
much Evan for your time I said it awesome thanks Deepak we’ll talk soon
awesome thanks Deepak we’ll talk soon
awesome thanks Deepak we’ll talk soon cheers right
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