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When is Wrong Wrong Enough | Aryn Frazier | TEDxCharlottesville


I’m sure that a lot of you out there can

I’m sure that a lot of you out there can remember being kids and going to the

remember being kids and going to the

remember being kids and going to the store with your parents and really

store with your parents and really

store with your parents and really wanting something and that might have

wanting something and that might have

wanting something and that might have been a candy bar or a video game or

been a candy bar or a video game or

been a candy bar or a video game or t-shirt I’m not sure how your parents

t-shirt I’m not sure how your parents

t-shirt I’m not sure how your parents responded to you but my mother who’s out

responded to you but my mother who’s out

responded to you but my mother who’s out there somewhere today hi mom hi mom she

there somewhere today hi mom hi mom she

there somewhere today hi mom hi mom she when I asked her for something that she

when I asked her for something that she

when I asked her for something that she didn’t want to give would sort of

didn’t want to give would sort of

didn’t want to give would sort of her head to the side and say yeah well

her head to the side and say yeah well

her head to the side and say yeah well people in Hell want ice water now

people in Hell want ice water now

people in Hell want ice water now sidestepping the fact that my suburban

sidestepping the fact that my suburban

sidestepping the fact that my suburban Maryland childhood was being compared to

Maryland childhood was being compared to

Maryland childhood was being compared to one of Dante’s circles this was also

one of Dante’s circles this was also

one of Dante’s circles this was also completely out of line with the somewhat

completely out of line with the somewhat

completely out of line with the somewhat demanding always determined to get what

demanding always determined to get what

demanding always determined to get what she wants and feel she deserves woman

she wants and feel she deserves woman

she wants and feel she deserves woman that I knew nothing illustrates that

that I knew nothing illustrates that

that I knew nothing illustrates that more than our time it drive-through

more than our time it drive-through

more than our time it drive-through windows my mother would pick me and my

windows my mother would pick me and my

windows my mother would pick me and my older brother Ryan up from burger king

older brother Ryan up from burger king

older brother Ryan up from burger king where excuse me up from daycare and we

where excuse me up from daycare and we

where excuse me up from daycare and we would head to Burger King and before we

would head to Burger King and before we

would head to Burger King and before we even placed our order they would already

even placed our order they would already

even placed our order they would already be at strike one because the line was

be at strike one because the line was

be at strike one because the line was too long and it was moving too slowly we

too long and it was moving too slowly we

too long and it was moving too slowly we get to the second window and we would be

get to the second window and we would be

get to the second window and we would be charged for french fries that we didn’t

charged for french fries that we didn’t

charged for french fries that we didn’t order and that was strike two now at

order and that was strike two now at

order and that was strike two now at this point me and my brother looking at

this point me and my brother looking at

this point me and my brother looking at each other in the backseat hoping and

each other in the backseat hoping and

each other in the backseat hoping and praying that the somewhat demanding

praying that the somewhat demanding

praying that the somewhat demanding always determined to get what she wants

always determined to get what she wants

always determined to get what she wants and feel she deserves woman that we knew

and feel she deserves woman that we knew

and feel she deserves woman that we knew didn’t reveal herself at the next window

didn’t reveal herself at the next window

didn’t reveal herself at the next window many times in my childhood this prayer

many times in my childhood this prayer

many times in my childhood this prayer would unanswered we would get to the

would unanswered we would get to the

would unanswered we would get to the third window and like clockwork I would

third window and like clockwork I would

third window and like clockwork I would be given a coke instead of a sprite now

be given a coke instead of a sprite now

be given a coke instead of a sprite now I’m sitting in the backseat trying to

I’m sitting in the backseat trying to

I’m sitting in the backseat trying to reason with her saying it’s okay I can

reason with her saying it’s okay I can

reason with her saying it’s okay I can drink the coke because quite frankly I

drink the coke because quite frankly I

drink the coke because quite frankly I was eight years old I just wanted a

was eight years old I just wanted a

was eight years old I just wanted a sugary drink anyway but she would ignore

sugary drink anyway but she would ignore

sugary drink anyway but she would ignore my protest from the backseat she would

my protest from the backseat she would

my protest from the backseat she would her head to the side and look out

her head to the side and look out

her head to the side and look out of her car window and say you know what

of her car window and say you know what

of her car window and say you know what I want to speak to the manager and she

I want to speak to the manager and she

I want to speak to the manager and she would proceed to tell the manager not

would proceed to tell the manager not

would proceed to tell the manager not just what was wrong with this specific

just what was wrong with this specific

just what was wrong with this specific visit to Burger King but what was wrong

visit to Burger King but what was wrong

visit to Burger King but what was wrong three weeks ago and how maybe this was

three weeks ago and how maybe this was

three weeks ago and how maybe this was indicative of a larger problem and how

indicative of a larger problem and how

indicative of a larger problem and how she felt she deserved to be treated as a

she felt she deserved to be treated as a

she felt she deserved to be treated as a customer at this establishment as I grew

customer at this establishment as I grew

customer at this establishment as I grew up and out of being an embarrassed

up and out of being an embarrassed

up and out of being an embarrassed eight-year-old this became one of the

eight-year-old this became one of the

eight-year-old this became one of the things I most admired about my mother

things I most admired about my mother

things I most admired about my mother but needless to say this was in direct

but needless to say this was in direct

but needless to say this was in direct contradiction with this idea that I

contradiction with this idea that I

contradiction with this idea that I can’t have things that I want because

can’t have things that I want because

can’t have things that I want because people in Hell want ice water let’s

people in Hell want ice water let’s

people in Hell want ice water let’s think about what that statement really

think about what that statement really

think about what that statement really means there are two parts one there are

means there are two parts one there are

means there are two parts one there are people out there somewhere presumably in

people out there somewhere presumably in

people out there somewhere presumably in health who desperately wants something

health who desperately wants something

health who desperately wants something that they are never going to have access

that they are never going to have access

that they are never going to have access to the unspoken extension is why should

to the unspoken extension is why should

to the unspoken extension is why should you have what you want what makes me so

you have what you want what makes me so

you have what you want what makes me so special the second part of that revolves

special the second part of that revolves

special the second part of that revolves around this idea of being grateful and

around this idea of being grateful and

around this idea of being grateful and it’s a reassurance that actually you’re

it’s a reassurance that actually you’re

it’s a reassurance that actually you’re not inhale you’re just in Virginia in

not inhale you’re just in Virginia in

not inhale you’re just in Virginia in the middle of August and yeah it’s hot

the middle of August and yeah it’s hot

the middle of August and yeah it’s hot but it could be so much worse in fact it

but it could be so much worse in fact it

but it could be so much worse in fact it could be so much worse that you should

could be so much worse that you should

could be so much worse that you should be grateful and that even when I can see

be grateful and that even when I can see

be grateful and that even when I can see better when I can reach better I

better when I can reach better I

better when I can reach better I shouldn’t ask for it because people in

shouldn’t ask for it because people in

shouldn’t ask for it because people in Hell want ice water that leads me to the

Hell want ice water that leads me to the

Hell want ice water that leads me to the question that I want to ask you when is

question that I want to ask you when is

question that I want to ask you when is it hot enough when is something bad

it hot enough when is something bad

it hot enough when is something bad enough when is wrong wrong enough for

enough when is wrong wrong enough for

enough when is wrong wrong enough for you to not just know that somebody

you to not just know that somebody

you to not just know that somebody somewhere should say something but for

somewhere should say something but for

somewhere should say something but for you to be the one who speaks up I had to

you to be the one who speaks up I had to

you to be the one who speaks up I had to answer this question for myself during

answer this question for myself during

answer this question for myself during my second year at the University of

my second year at the University of

my second year at the University of Virginia that year I was the political

Virginia that year I was the political

Virginia that year I was the political action chair of the Black Student

action chair of the Black Student

action chair of the Black Student Alliance and if you recall from july to

Alliance and if you recall from july to

Alliance and if you recall from july to august of 2014 a black man was killed by

august of 2014 a black man was killed by

august of 2014 a black man was killed by law enforcement agents every week

law enforcement agents every week

law enforcement agents every week culminate

culminate

culminate in the death of Michael Brown and

in the death of Michael Brown and

in the death of Michael Brown and Missouri needless to say by the time we

Missouri needless to say by the time we

Missouri needless to say by the time we got back to grounds at the end of August

got back to grounds at the end of August

got back to grounds at the end of August black lives matter and eliminating

black lives matter and eliminating

black lives matter and eliminating police brutality where my main focus as

police brutality where my main focus as

police brutality where my main focus as political action chair and if there was

political action chair and if there was

political action chair and if there was a movement than we were in it we had

a movement than we were in it we had

a movement than we were in it we had rallies on the lawn we marched through

rallies on the lawn we marched through

rallies on the lawn we marched through libraries we had a die-in on president

libraries we had a die-in on president

libraries we had a die-in on president Sullivan’s steps but still there was an

Sullivan’s steps but still there was an

Sullivan’s steps but still there was an undeniable feeling of distance between

undeniable feeling of distance between

undeniable feeling of distance between what was what this larger problem was

what was what this larger problem was

what was what this larger problem was and where we were you see police

and where we were you see police

and where we were you see police brutality was something that happened in

brutality was something that happened in

brutality was something that happened in New York and something that happened in

New York and something that happened in

New York and something that happened in Cleveland and something that happened in

Cleveland and something that happened in

Cleveland and something that happened in Ferguson it didn’t happen here but stand

Ferguson it didn’t happen here but stand

Ferguson it didn’t happen here but stand in solidarity we did and before I knew

in solidarity we did and before I knew

in solidarity we did and before I knew it was March now at UVA on st. Patrick’s

it was March now at UVA on st. Patrick’s

it was March now at UVA on st. Patrick’s Day students go out the restaurants have

Day students go out the restaurants have

Day students go out the restaurants have discounts and the bars have drink deals

discounts and the bars have drink deals

discounts and the bars have drink deals and kids congregate on the corner to

and kids congregate on the corner to

and kids congregate on the corner to partake in the festivities that st.

partake in the festivities that st.

partake in the festivities that st. Patrick’s Day a friend of mine asked

Patrick’s Day a friend of mine asked

Patrick’s Day a friend of mine asked whether or not I would be going out to I

whether or not I would be going out to I

whether or not I would be going out to I told him that I wouldn’t that I had some

told him that I wouldn’t that I had some

told him that I wouldn’t that I had some work to complete but that he should have

work to complete but that he should have

work to complete but that he should have enough fun for the both of us the next

enough fun for the both of us the next

enough fun for the both of us the next morning I woke up and the first thing I

morning I woke up and the first thing I

morning I woke up and the first thing I did was check my phone I opened the

did was check my phone I opened the

did was check my phone I opened the group message of the Black Student

group message of the Black Student

group message of the Black Student Alliance and the image that hit me was

Alliance and the image that hit me was

Alliance and the image that hit me was one of a black boys busted head and

one of a black boys busted head and

one of a black boys busted head and blood-stained shirt I squinted at his

blood-stained shirt I squinted at his

blood-stained shirt I squinted at his shirt at his chest first to make sure

shirt at his chest first to make sure

shirt at his chest first to make sure that the blood on his shirt was not

that the blood on his shirt was not

that the blood on his shirt was not indicative of a more deadly wound then i

indicative of a more deadly wound then i

indicative of a more deadly wound then i splinted at his face because surely this

splinted at his face because surely this

splinted at his face because surely this couldn’t be the boy who I’d seen not 12

couldn’t be the boy who I’d seen not 12

couldn’t be the boy who I’d seen not 12 hours before until to have enough fun

hours before until to have enough fun

hours before until to have enough fun for the both of us but it was Marty’s

for the both of us but it was Marty’s

for the both of us but it was Marty’s Johnson and I would soon find out that

Johnson and I would soon find out that

Johnson and I would soon find out that his body was pinned to the red

his body was pinned to the red

his body was pinned to the red cobblestone and his ankles and wrists

cobblestone and his ankles and wrists

cobblestone and his ankles and wrists shackled over suspicions of a fake ID

myself joy the venn BSA president and VJ

myself joy the venn BSA president and VJ the president of the n-double-a-cp at

the president of the n-double-a-cp at

the president of the n-double-a-cp at uva at the time got together and we knew

uva at the time got together and we knew

uva at the time got together and we knew that we had to do something we decided

that we had to do something we decided

that we had to do something we decided that we would have a dialogue talking

that we would have a dialogue talking

that we would have a dialogue talking about yes what it happened to marty’s

about yes what it happened to marty’s

about yes what it happened to marty’s but also the larger problem that was

but also the larger problem that was

but also the larger problem that was facing our nation we booked Clark Hall

facing our nation we booked Clark Hall

facing our nation we booked Clark Hall which should sit about 200 people and as

which should sit about 200 people and as

which should sit about 200 people and as soon as we got there about 20 minutes

soon as we got there about 20 minutes

soon as we got there about 20 minutes before the event was set to begin we saw

before the event was set to begin we saw

before the event was set to begin we saw a line snaking out of the door and mobs

a line snaking out of the door and mobs

a line snaking out of the door and mobs of people still descend

of people still descend

of people still descend in that direction and we knew it

in that direction and we knew it

in that direction and we knew it wouldn’t be big enough so someone made a

wouldn’t be big enough so someone made a

wouldn’t be big enough so someone made a phone call to a university administrator

phone call to a university administrator

phone call to a university administrator and we booked a Newcombe ballroom within

and we booked a Newcombe ballroom within

and we booked a Newcombe ballroom within minutes Newcomb ballroom fits four

minutes Newcomb ballroom fits four

minutes Newcomb ballroom fits four hundred and still as we got there and

hundred and still as we got there and

hundred and still as we got there and watch people pile in we knew that this

watch people pile in we knew that this

watch people pile in we knew that this space wouldn’t be large enough either

space wouldn’t be large enough either

space wouldn’t be large enough either this must have been apparent to the

this must have been apparent to the

this must have been apparent to the crowd as well because without myself or

crowd as well because without myself or

crowd as well because without myself or VJ or joy telling anyone to do anything

VJ or joy telling anyone to do anything

VJ or joy telling anyone to do anything they began to move over their own accord

they began to move over their own accord

they began to move over their own accord towards the outdoor amphitheater at this

towards the outdoor amphitheater at this

towards the outdoor amphitheater at this point me and VJ are running just trying

point me and VJ are running just trying

point me and VJ are running just trying to catch up to this crowd that we’re

to catch up to this crowd that we’re

to catch up to this crowd that we’re supposed to be leading and we realize

supposed to be leading and we realize

supposed to be leading and we realize three things we have no microphones no

three things we have no microphones no

three things we have no microphones no speakers and nothing to say still we get

speakers and nothing to say still we get

speakers and nothing to say still we get to the amphitheater and we’re standing

to the amphitheater and we’re standing

to the amphitheater and we’re standing on the grassy area in front of it and

on the grassy area in front of it and

on the grassy area in front of it and after the only part of our originally

after the only part of our originally

after the only part of our originally planned program has finished the reading

planned program has finished the reading

planned program has finished the reading of an excerpt from James Baldwin’s

of an excerpt from James Baldwin’s

of an excerpt from James Baldwin’s letter to my nephew no one wants to take

letter to my nephew no one wants to take

letter to my nephew no one wants to take this megaphone that someone graciously

this megaphone that someone graciously

this megaphone that someone graciously gave us joy says you and Vijay are the

gave us joy says you and Vijay are the

gave us joy says you and Vijay are the ones who like to do this public speaking

ones who like to do this public speaking

ones who like to do this public speaking thing one of you should speak Vijay

thing one of you should speak Vijay

thing one of you should speak Vijay holds the megaphone like his hands are

holds the megaphone like his hands are

holds the megaphone like his hands are on fire and he says you guys know that I

on fire and he says you guys know that I

on fire and he says you guys know that I pre write all of my speeches Aaron’s the

pre write all of my speeches Aaron’s the

pre write all of my speeches Aaron’s the one who likes to talk off the top of her

one who likes to talk off the top of her

one who likes to talk off the top of her head until they hand the megaphone to me

head until they hand the megaphone to me

head until they hand the megaphone to me and I know that I don’t know what to say

and I know that I don’t know what to say

and I know that I don’t know what to say but as I look out at this crowd of a

but as I look out at this crowd of a

but as I look out at this crowd of a thousand people standing in front of me

thousand people standing in front of me

thousand people standing in front of me I realized something but they don’t

I realized something but they don’t

I realized something but they don’t really know what they came to hear they

really know what they came to hear they

really know what they came to hear they just know that something went wrong and

just know that something went wrong and

just know that something went wrong and that they want to be a part of the

that they want to be a part of the

that they want to be a part of the solution I knew that for my mother the

solution I knew that for my mother the

solution I knew that for my mother the difference between a coke and a sprite

difference between a coke and a sprite

difference between a coke and a sprite was reason enough to always say

was reason enough to always say

was reason enough to always say something and so surely I could do so

something and so surely I could do so

something and so surely I could do so about my friends busted head so I spoke

about my friends busted head so I spoke

about my friends busted head so I spoke I apologize that we’d had to change

I apologize that we’d had to change

I apologize that we’d had to change locations three times but that we’ve

locations three times but that we’ve

locations three times but that we’ve been talking about police brutality

been talking about police brutality

been talking about police brutality since August and never before have we

since August and never before have we

since August and never before have we had a crowd that was more than two or

had a crowd that was more than two or

had a crowd that was more than two or three hundred people i talked about how

three hundred people i talked about how

three hundred people i talked about how yes there were a lot of unfamiliar faces

yes there were a lot of unfamiliar faces

yes there were a lot of unfamiliar faces in that crowd of all colors but it

in that crowd of all colors but it

in that crowd of all colors but it didn’t matter if you would come to

didn’t matter if you would come to

didn’t matter if you would come to events like this before what mattered

events like this before what mattered

events like this before what mattered was that they were there now and that

was that they were there now and that

was that they were there now and that they kept coming back I talked about how

they kept coming back I talked about how

they kept coming back I talked about how when they did come back yes we should

when they did come back yes we should

when they did come back yes we should talk about Marty’s because what happened

talk about Marty’s because what happened

talk about Marty’s because what happened to him was

to him was

to him was I ibly horrible but we should also talk

I ibly horrible but we should also talk

I ibly horrible but we should also talk about the society that we lived in that

about the society that we lived in that

about the society that we lived in that was bigger than Marty’s and bigger than

was bigger than Marty’s and bigger than

was bigger than Marty’s and bigger than UVA and bigger than Charlottesville and

UVA and bigger than Charlottesville and

UVA and bigger than Charlottesville and bigger than Virginia it was nationwide

bigger than Virginia it was nationwide

bigger than Virginia it was nationwide and we needed to dissect why it was that

and we needed to dissect why it was that

and we needed to dissect why it was that so many charge to protect and serve hurt

so many charge to protect and serve hurt

so many charge to protect and serve hurt their citizens in the coming days we

their citizens in the coming days we

their citizens in the coming days we would hear a lot about how marty’s was

would hear a lot about how marty’s was

would hear a lot about how marty’s was lucky to have lived and how we should be

lucky to have lived and how we should be

lucky to have lived and how we should be grateful that it wasn’t worse and of

grateful that it wasn’t worse and of

grateful that it wasn’t worse and of course we were grateful but we didn’t

course we were grateful but we didn’t

course we were grateful but we didn’t want to spend our time listing off all

want to spend our time listing off all

want to spend our time listing off all of the reasons that we weren’t in hell

of the reasons that we weren’t in hell

of the reasons that we weren’t in hell trying to justify injustice instead we

trying to justify injustice instead we

trying to justify injustice instead we wanted to figure out how we could get to

wanted to figure out how we could get to

wanted to figure out how we could get to heaven so we wrote towards a better

heaven so we wrote towards a better

heaven so we wrote towards a better University a 26-page document that

University a 26-page document that

University a 26-page document that outlines recommendations for how to

outlines recommendations for how to

outlines recommendations for how to create a more racially harmonious UVA in

create a more racially harmonious UVA in

create a more racially harmonious UVA in Charlottesville community in a year and

Charlottesville community in a year and

Charlottesville community in a year and a half since its publication we have

a half since its publication we have

a half since its publication we have seen increased black faculty the

seen increased black faculty the

seen increased black faculty the introduction of directors of diversity

introduction of directors of diversity

introduction of directors of diversity in each school in each department we’ve

in each school in each department we’ve

in each school in each department we’ve seen the introduction of an engaging

seen the introduction of an engaging

seen the introduction of an engaging difference component to the curriculum

difference component to the curriculum

difference component to the curriculum we’ve seen pamphlets given to citizens

we’ve seen pamphlets given to citizens

we’ve seen pamphlets given to citizens about how they can know their rights

about how they can know their rights

about how they can know their rights when dealing with police officers so

when dealing with police officers so

when dealing with police officers so that’s how I came to answer this

that’s how I came to answer this

that’s how I came to answer this question of when is wrong wrong enough

question of when is wrong wrong enough

question of when is wrong wrong enough thanks mom for inadvertently teaching me

thanks mom for inadvertently teaching me

thanks mom for inadvertently teaching me to be a little bit less grateful and to

to be a little bit less grateful and to

to be a little bit less grateful and to and to everybody here if life is a

and to everybody here if life is a

and to everybody here if life is a metaphorical burger king then just know

metaphorical burger king then just know

metaphorical burger king then just know that a little bit of wrong is always

that a little bit of wrong is always

that a little bit of wrong is always wrong enough to go ahead and ask for the

wrong enough to go ahead and ask for the

wrong enough to go ahead and ask for the manager thank you

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