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Small Money – Big Impact | Peter Fanconi | TEDxZurich


right now 2.3 billion humans are living

right now 2.3 billion humans are living in poverty 2.3 billions that’s one third

in poverty 2.3 billions that’s one third

in poverty 2.3 billions that’s one third of human population 2.3 billion can be

of human population 2.3 billion can be

of human population 2.3 billion can be defined to either being extreme poor or

defined to either being extreme poor or

defined to either being extreme poor or moderately poor 900 million individuals

moderately poor 900 million individuals

moderately poor 900 million individuals live in extreme poverty and the reminder

live in extreme poverty and the reminder

live in extreme poverty and the reminder is so-called moderately poor if you are

is so-called moderately poor if you are

is so-called moderately poor if you are defined being a person living in poverty

defined being a person living in poverty

defined being a person living in poverty the definition basically is a claim to

the definition basically is a claim to

the definition basically is a claim to the amount of money you are able to

the amount of money you are able to

the amount of money you are able to spend per day according to the World

spend per day according to the World

spend per day according to the World Bank today we are talking an average of

Bank today we are talking an average of

Bank today we are talking an average of 1.9 to 2.5 US dollars a day in order to

1.9 to 2.5 US dollars a day in order to

1.9 to 2.5 US dollars a day in order to pay for your nutrition pay for your food

pay for your nutrition pay for your food

pay for your nutrition pay for your food pay for your education pay for medical

pay for your education pay for medical

pay for your education pay for medical care and also pay for your housing if

care and also pay for your housing if

care and also pay for your housing if you have access to 2.5 dollars a day you

you have access to 2.5 dollars a day you

you have access to 2.5 dollars a day you will never ever be able to save any

will never ever be able to save any

will never ever be able to save any money you will never ever be able to

money you will never ever be able to

money you will never ever be able to invest any money and to build your own

invest any money and to build your own

invest any money and to build your own future it’s not only about numbers it’s

future it’s not only about numbers it’s

future it’s not only about numbers it’s actually about faces because that’s what

actually about faces because that’s what

actually about faces because that’s what we read the newspapers we always see the

we read the newspapers we always see the

we read the newspapers we always see the large numbers but what we need to

large numbers but what we need to

large numbers but what we need to understand 2.3 billion individuals or

understand 2.3 billion individuals or

understand 2.3 billion individuals or individual faces with stories with

individual faces with stories with

individual faces with stories with families with kids with fathers with

families with kids with fathers with

families with kids with fathers with desires with hopes with anxieties so

desires with hopes with anxieties so

desires with hopes with anxieties so what I tried to do initially I tried to

what I tried to do initially I tried to

what I tried to do initially I tried to spend a lot of time trying to talk

spend a lot of time trying to talk

spend a lot of time trying to talk trying to listen trying to understand

trying to listen trying to understand

trying to listen trying to understand what are the real needs of poor people

what are the real needs of poor people

what are the real needs of poor people today and I spent bulk of my time in

today and I spent bulk of my time in

today and I spent bulk of my time in so-called frontier markets or emerging

so-called frontier markets or emerging

so-called frontier markets or emerging markets where I usually don’t wear nice

markets where I usually don’t wear nice

markets where I usually don’t wear nice suit azar there as I do today spend my

suit azar there as I do today spend my

suit azar there as I do today spend my time somewhere on the road in a pretty

time somewhere on the road in a pretty

time somewhere on the road in a pretty miserable hotel usually and

miserable hotel usually and

miserable hotel usually and trying to fight my way together with my

trying to fight my way together with my

trying to fight my way together with my colleagues but to meeting people Africa

colleagues but to meeting people Africa

colleagues but to meeting people Africa is an example you might know today in

is an example you might know today in

is an example you might know today in Africa hundred and thirty million

Africa hundred and thirty million

Africa hundred and thirty million children and kids or in the age group of

children and kids or in the age group of

children and kids or in the age group of getting access to schools and

getting access to schools and

getting access to schools and universities out of this number however

universities out of this number however

universities out of this number however only fifty million are actually provided

only fifty million are actually provided

only fifty million are actually provided schooling and education and the reminder

schooling and education and the reminder

schooling and education and the reminder has no access there are excluded from

has no access there are excluded from

has no access there are excluded from any hope from any chance to actually

any hope from any chance to actually

any hope from any chance to actually visit a school and go and study this is

visit a school and go and study this is

visit a school and go and study this is a picture in Cameroon I’m not teaching

a picture in Cameroon I’m not teaching

a picture in Cameroon I’m not teaching here I was just taught a French lesson

here I was just taught a French lesson

here I was just taught a French lesson here because Cameroon as you know is

here because Cameroon as you know is

here because Cameroon as you know is french-speaking now

french-speaking now

french-speaking now poverty we need to understand if you’re

poverty we need to understand if you’re

poverty we need to understand if you’re poor you can be homeless or you actually

poor you can be homeless or you actually

poor you can be homeless or you actually live in huts without roofs you’ve got no

live in huts without roofs you’ve got no

live in huts without roofs you’ve got no heating you are exposed to nature 70% of

heating you are exposed to nature 70% of

heating you are exposed to nature 70% of the population today has no access still

the population today has no access still

the population today has no access still no access to piped water medical care is

no access to piped water medical care is

no access to piped water medical care is a disaster if you are modern if you are

a disaster if you are modern if you are

a disaster if you are modern if you are receiving a child the likelihood of

receiving a child the likelihood of

receiving a child the likelihood of maternal to death is extremely high and

maternal to death is extremely high and

maternal to death is extremely high and one-third of the population today still

one-third of the population today still

one-third of the population today still has no access to any recognised identity

has no access to any recognised identity

has no access to any recognised identity has no access to any electricity and

has no access to any electricity and

has no access to any electricity and keep in mind without electricity

keep in mind without electricity

keep in mind without electricity it gets pretty dark at night it gets

it gets pretty dark at night it gets

it gets pretty dark at night it gets dark starting at 5:00 6:00 p.m. and

dark starting at 5:00 6:00 p.m. and

dark starting at 5:00 6:00 p.m. and evening the only alternative is using

evening the only alternative is using

evening the only alternative is using kerosene kerosene is absolute disaster

kerosene kerosene is absolute disaster

kerosene kerosene is absolute disaster it brings a lot of illness and lastly

it brings a lot of illness and lastly

it brings a lot of illness and lastly poverty also has got to do having no

poverty also has got to do having no

poverty also has got to do having no access to any banking facility because

access to any banking facility because

access to any banking facility because only if you have got an access to bank

only if you have got an access to bank

only if you have got an access to bank facility you might be granted alone you

facility you might be granted alone you

facility you might be granted alone you might can ask for credit but if you are

might can ask for credit but if you are

might can ask for credit but if you are excluded from the banking system you

excluded from the banking system you

excluded from the banking system you will not be given the opportunity to

will not be given the opportunity to

will not be given the opportunity to participate in the society we all live

participate in the society we all live

participate in the society we all live in today now in order to understand how

in today now in order to understand how

in today now in order to understand how you can actually fight poverty and all

you can actually fight poverty and all

you can actually fight poverty and all of you know you know we have been

of you know you know we have been

of you know you know we have been deploying billions of US dollars or in

deploying billions of US dollars or in

deploying billions of US dollars or in development aid over the last decades as

development aid over the last decades as

development aid over the last decades as of today

of today

of today this is still the situation development

this is still the situation development

this is still the situation development aid has reached certain goals has

aid has reached certain goals has

aid has reached certain goals has fulfilled certain objectives but the

fulfilled certain objectives but the

fulfilled certain objectives but the four poor level we are seeing today is

four poor level we are seeing today is

four poor level we are seeing today is still disastrous the recent Nobel Prize

still disastrous the recent Nobel Prize

still disastrous the recent Nobel Prize winner Angus Deaton he actually calls

winner Angus Deaton he actually calls

winner Angus Deaton he actually calls development aid the modern colonialism

development aid the modern colonialism

development aid the modern colonialism and there are other very important there

and there are other very important there

and there are other very important there are people out there doing a lot of

are people out there doing a lot of

are people out there doing a lot of research they believe a aid actually

research they believe a aid actually

research they believe a aid actually kills and I want to show you now why I

kills and I want to show you now why I

kills and I want to show you now why I personally believe together with my

personally believe together with my

personally believe together with my colleagues working together with me our

colleagues working together with me our

colleagues working together with me our beside actually providing pure

beside actually providing pure

beside actually providing pure development aid you can really fight

development aid you can really fight

development aid you can really fight poverty Nelson Mandela poverty is not an

poverty Nelson Mandela poverty is not an

poverty Nelson Mandela poverty is not an accident like slavery in apartheid it’s

accident like slavery in apartheid it’s

accident like slavery in apartheid it’s man-made and can be removed by the

man-made and can be removed by the

man-made and can be removed by the actions of human beings poverty is

actions of human beings poverty is

actions of human beings poverty is man-made Muhammad Yunus forum a Nobel

man-made Muhammad Yunus forum a Nobel

man-made Muhammad Yunus forum a Nobel Prize winner and founder of the Grameen

Prize winner and founder of the Grameen

Prize winner and founder of the Grameen Bank we have created a society that does

Bank we have created a society that does

Bank we have created a society that does not allow opportunities for those people

not allow opportunities for those people

not allow opportunities for those people to take care of themselves because we

to take care of themselves because we

to take care of themselves because we have denied them those opportunities to

have denied them those opportunities to

have denied them those opportunities to take care of themselves that is not what

take care of themselves that is not what

take care of themselves that is not what Aid is about but what impact investing

Aid is about but what impact investing

Aid is about but what impact investing for example and microfinance and

for example and microfinance and

for example and microfinance and providing credits to individual that is

providing credits to individual that is

providing credits to individual that is basically providing aid and help to

basically providing aid and help to

basically providing aid and help to individuals to really work with their

individuals to really work with their

individuals to really work with their own perspectives and helping themselves

own perspectives and helping themselves

own perspectives and helping themselves it’s all about including the excluded

it’s all about including the excluded

it’s all about including the excluded how can we include 2.3 billion

how can we include 2.3 billion

how can we include 2.3 billion individuals in our society in our

individuals in our society in our

individuals in our society in our financial systems and please don’t be

financial systems and please don’t be

financial systems and please don’t be miss on the stake and people today who

miss on the stake and people today who

miss on the stake and people today who are excluded in the system they have got

are excluded in the system they have got

are excluded in the system they have got one desire they’ve got one hope they

one desire they’ve got one hope they

one desire they’ve got one hope they want to become included that is so

want to become included that is so

want to become included that is so important if you’re starving if you’ve

important if you’re starving if you’ve

important if you’re starving if you’ve got five children sitting and besides

got five children sitting and besides

got five children sitting and besides you and you have get you generate no

you and you have get you generate no

you and you have get you generate no income and you’ve got really

income and you’ve got really

income and you’ve got really difficulties to survive the only wish

difficulties to survive the only wish

difficulties to survive the only wish and the only dream you had

and the only dream you had

and the only dream you had and ambition is to make that next step

and ambition is to make that next step

and ambition is to make that next step to become included in society Ninh

to become included in society Ninh

to become included in society Ninh system you want to help you want to send

system you want to help you want to send

system you want to help you want to send your children to education you want to

your children to education you want to

your children to education you want to pay the medical care for your

pay the medical care for your

pay the medical care for your grandfather etc so it’s all about how to

grandfather etc so it’s all about how to

grandfather etc so it’s all about how to make people included how to push them

make people included how to push them

make people included how to push them into inclusion that is what microfinance

into inclusion that is what microfinance

into inclusion that is what microfinance is actually all about an impact

is actually all about an impact

is actually all about an impact investing because if you are poor most

investing because if you are poor most

investing because if you are poor most likely you have got no access to any

likely you have got no access to any

likely you have got no access to any capital just imagine yourself you know

capital just imagine yourself you know

capital just imagine yourself you know if you were to live in a poor country

if you were to live in a poor country

if you were to live in a poor country let’s take Cambodia as an example fifty

let’s take Cambodia as an example fifty

let’s take Cambodia as an example fifty percent of all the people living in a

percent of all the people living in a

percent of all the people living in a Cambodia or so-called poor if you are

Cambodia or so-called poor if you are

Cambodia or so-called poor if you are converting and you would like to develop

converting and you would like to develop

converting and you would like to develop and create an own business and help your

and create an own business and help your

and create an own business and help your family you want to buy you want to sell

family you want to buy you want to sell

family you want to buy you want to sell you want to produce for all of these

you want to produce for all of these

you want to produce for all of these factors you are going to need some money

factors you are going to need some money

factors you are going to need some money you need some investment you’re going to

you need some investment you’re going to

you need some investment you’re going to need to buy a couple of pineapples here

need to buy a couple of pineapples here

need to buy a couple of pineapples here in Cambodia you actually can buy

in Cambodia you actually can buy

in Cambodia you actually can buy pineapples and you can sell them with a

pineapples and you can sell them with a

pineapples and you can sell them with a margin of 25% but you need to have some

margin of 25% but you need to have some

margin of 25% but you need to have some money to buy 50 pineapples somebody

money to buy 50 pineapples somebody

money to buy 50 pineapples somebody needs to give you 50 dollars in order

needs to give you 50 dollars in order

needs to give you 50 dollars in order for you to take them along you know go

for you to take them along you know go

for you to take them along you know go from one village to the next village and

from one village to the next village and

from one village to the next village and sell your pineapples with a margin to

sell your pineapples with a margin to

sell your pineapples with a margin to make some profits if you do not have any

make some profits if you do not have any

make some profits if you do not have any cash you will never be able to buy a

cash you will never be able to buy a

cash you will never be able to buy a pineapple so you need some money and

pineapple so you need some money and

pineapple so you need some money and it’s small money if you ask your friends

it’s small money if you ask your friends

it’s small money if you ask your friends and family you will not receive any

and family you will not receive any

and family you will not receive any funding because most likely your friends

funding because most likely your friends

funding because most likely your friends and family will be poor as well you

and family will be poor as well you

and family will be poor as well you obviously can go to a bank there are

obviously can go to a bank there are

obviously can go to a bank there are lots of banks in frontier markets some

lots of banks in frontier markets some

lots of banks in frontier markets some of you probably have seen them who

of you probably have seen them who

of you probably have seen them who travel a lot the problem is banks will

travel a lot the problem is banks will

travel a lot the problem is banks will only provide you money for collateral

only provide you money for collateral

only provide you money for collateral for guarantee but since you’re poor

for guarantee but since you’re poor

for guarantee but since you’re poor you’ve got no access to any collateral

you’ve got no access to any collateral

you’ve got no access to any collateral you cannot pledge anything there’s

you cannot pledge anything there’s

you cannot pledge anything there’s nothing you have in your hands so a bank

nothing you have in your hands so a bank

nothing you have in your hands so a bank is not going to help you you can go and

is not going to help you you can go and

is not going to help you you can go and see your so called shark lender the

see your so called shark lender the

see your so called shark lender the shark clan the most likely is going to

shark clan the most likely is going to

shark clan the most likely is going to provide you with some money but research

provide you with some money but research

provide you with some money but research actually shows for the last 15

actually shows for the last 15

actually shows for the last 15 is that the default rate by receiving a

is that the default rate by receiving a

is that the default rate by receiving a funding by a shark lender is close to

funding by a shark lender is close to

funding by a shark lender is close to 90% as no way you will ever pay back

90% as no way you will ever pay back

90% as no way you will ever pay back that loan so the only other opportunity

that loan so the only other opportunity

that loan so the only other opportunity you have is you’re going to see a so

you have is you’re going to see a so

you have is you’re going to see a so called microfinance institution and a

called microfinance institution and a

called microfinance institution and a microfinance institution is going to

microfinance institution is going to

microfinance institution is going to give you a loan without collateral it’s

give you a loan without collateral it’s

give you a loan without collateral it’s going to be small initially this can be

going to be small initially this can be

going to be small initially this can be a loan of $50 in India for example the

a loan of $50 in India for example the

a loan of $50 in India for example the average we provide is 50 to 60 US

average we provide is 50 to 60 US

average we provide is 50 to 60 US dollars it can be $1,000 in Southeast

dollars it can be $1,000 in Southeast

dollars it can be $1,000 in Southeast Asia and it can be up to 2 or $3,000 in

Asia and it can be up to 2 or $3,000 in

Asia and it can be up to 2 or $3,000 in Central Asia for example but you’re very

Central Asia for example but you’re very

Central Asia for example but you’re very small loans and it’s a loan it’s a

small loans and it’s a loan it’s a

small loans and it’s a loan it’s a business a loan needs to be paid back

business a loan needs to be paid back

business a loan needs to be paid back that’s very important and there’s always

that’s very important and there’s always

that’s very important and there’s always an interest rate talked together with

an interest rate talked together with

an interest rate talked together with the loan so it’s a business so you

the loan so it’s a business so you

the loan so it’s a business so you provide money and accessibility to an

provide money and accessibility to an

provide money and accessibility to an individual who actually gets the

individual who actually gets the

individual who actually gets the opportunity to develop himself you

opportunity to develop himself you

opportunity to develop himself you become a business partner of a poor

become a business partner of a poor

become a business partner of a poor people who has no other opportunity in

people who has no other opportunity in

people who has no other opportunity in life impact investing is very different

life impact investing is very different

life impact investing is very different from traditional investing or from

from traditional investing or from

from traditional investing or from philanthropy so philanthropy is

philanthropy so philanthropy is

philanthropy so philanthropy is providing aid right it’s great support

providing aid right it’s great support

providing aid right it’s great support for a couple of years you can send your

for a couple of years you can send your

for a couple of years you can send your kid into school you might receive some

kid into school you might receive some

kid into school you might receive some books but it’s not sustainable it’s not

books but it’s not sustainable it’s not

books but it’s not sustainable it’s not going to help a family to develop

going to help a family to develop

going to help a family to develop independently that’s the difference the

independently that’s the difference the

independently that’s the difference the impact investing where you provide money

impact investing where you provide money

impact investing where you provide money the money needs to be paid back that’s

the money needs to be paid back that’s

the money needs to be paid back that’s the important system about that and it’s

the important system about that and it’s

the important system about that and it’s not only about because you want to make

not only about because you want to make

not only about because you want to make money as an investor but it’s

money as an investor but it’s

money as an investor but it’s psychologically totally important that

psychologically totally important that

psychologically totally important that the individual knows it’s a business

the individual knows it’s a business

the individual knows it’s a business relationship and it’s an opportunity to

relationship and it’s an opportunity to

relationship and it’s an opportunity to basically develop financially and

basically develop financially and

basically develop financially and economically and obviously by providing

economically and obviously by providing

economically and obviously by providing a loan you’re so sure that you can

a loan you’re so sure that you can

a loan you’re so sure that you can guarantee that there’s a social impact

guarantee that there’s a social impact

guarantee that there’s a social impact you do not want that the money spent to

you do not want that the money spent to

you do not want that the money spent to buy TV or car but you want to make sure

buy TV or car but you want to make sure

buy TV or car but you want to make sure the money is spent for the right course

the money is spent for the right course

the money is spent for the right course so you start to measure the social

so you start to measure the social

so you start to measure the social impact

impact

impact you start to understand if jobs are

you start to understand if jobs are

you start to understand if jobs are created if kids are in a better health

created if kids are in a better health

created if kids are in a better health if children can go to school and educate

if children can go to school and educate

if children can go to school and educate that’s what you measure that what impact

that’s what you measure that what impact

that’s what you measure that what impact investing is about the company I’m very

investing is about the company I’m very

investing is about the company I’m very proud and representing together with you

proud and representing together with you

proud and representing together with you know great staff working all over the

know great staff working all over the

know great staff working all over the world with ambassadors with board

world with ambassadors with board

world with ambassadors with board members but also with investors some of

members but also with investors some of

members but also with investors some of the most from Switzerland what we have

the most from Switzerland what we have

the most from Switzerland what we have been doing over the last 15 years we

been doing over the last 15 years we

been doing over the last 15 years we basically have deployed 3.5 billion into

basically have deployed 3.5 billion into

basically have deployed 3.5 billion into over 60 countries and we are touching

over 60 countries and we are touching

over 60 countries and we are touching about 30 million individuals as we speak

about 30 million individuals as we speak

about 30 million individuals as we speak today the orchard is providing every

today the orchard is providing every

today the orchard is providing every eight seconds alone and by the end of my

eight seconds alone and by the end of my

eight seconds alone and by the end of my little speech we will have deployed and

little speech we will have deployed and

little speech we will have deployed and granted 150 loans to individual people

granted 150 loans to individual people

granted 150 loans to individual people who would not have had any access to

who would not have had any access to

who would not have had any access to funding these are crazy numbers I’m

funding these are crazy numbers I’m

funding these are crazy numbers I’m fully aware of that but it’s big data

fully aware of that but it’s big data

fully aware of that but it’s big data and that’s also the message I want to

and that’s also the message I want to

and that’s also the message I want to convey with you

convey with you

convey with you it is small money but if you multiply

it is small money but if you multiply

it is small money but if you multiply small money and if you assure that

small money and if you assure that

small money and if you assure that there’s a social impact it’s small money

there’s a social impact it’s small money

there’s a social impact it’s small money big impact and I really mean big impact

big impact and I really mean big impact

big impact and I really mean big impact the examples I’m showing you all know

the examples I’m showing you all know

the examples I’m showing you all know the people personally George is living

the people personally George is living

the people personally George is living in Tbilisi Georgia has received the

in Tbilisi Georgia has received the

in Tbilisi Georgia has received the first loan three and a half years ago in

first loan three and a half years ago in

first loan three and a half years ago in order to build up his little grocery

order to build up his little grocery

order to build up his little grocery store now he’s planning to expand he

store now he’s planning to expand he

store now he’s planning to expand he actually wants to open up a coffee shop

actually wants to open up a coffee shop

actually wants to open up a coffee shop he’s an extreme happy individual today

he’s an extreme happy individual today

he’s an extreme happy individual today and he’s running his own business he

and he’s running his own business he

and he’s running his own business he would have had no chance whatever to

would have had no chance whatever to

would have had no chance whatever to start a business without receiving an

start a business without receiving an

start a business without receiving an initial loan three and a half years ago

initial loan three and a half years ago

initial loan three and a half years ago Carmen is running restaurant in

Carmen is running restaurant in

Carmen is running restaurant in Guatemala when I made comment the first

Guatemala when I made comment the first

Guatemala when I made comment the first time she was a beggar the first loan she

time she was a beggar the first loan she

time she was a beggar the first loan she took was $50 the $50 she invested in

took was $50 the $50 she invested in

took was $50 the $50 she invested in buying some pans and plates she started

buying some pans and plates she started

buying some pans and plates she started to cook some food at her home and

to cook some food at her home and

to cook some food at her home and started to sell it on the local market

started to sell it on the local market

started to sell it on the local market today

today

today shree loan cycles later Carmen is one of

shree loan cycles later Carmen is one of

shree loan cycles later Carmen is one of the proudest women I probably have met

the proudest women I probably have met

the proudest women I probably have met because she’s an intrapreneur she runs

because she’s an intrapreneur she runs

because she’s an intrapreneur she runs her own restaurant

her own restaurant

her own restaurant her daughter’s our University she

her daughter’s our University she

her daughter’s our University she employs four people in the restaurant

employs four people in the restaurant

employs four people in the restaurant and when I asked her last time what a

and when I asked her last time what a

and when I asked her last time what a plan while she owes she’s going to apply

plan while she owes she’s going to apply

plan while she owes she’s going to apply for next loan because she’s planning to

for next loan because she’s planning to

for next loan because she’s planning to open up two more restaurants and that is

open up two more restaurants and that is

open up two more restaurants and that is what I basically mean when talking to

what I basically mean when talking to

what I basically mean when talking to individuals right this is not aid but

individuals right this is not aid but

individuals right this is not aid but you basically accelerate and you help an

you basically accelerate and you help an

you basically accelerate and you help an individual to create your own fortune

individual to create your own fortune

individual to create your own fortune and your own future and that’s the

and your own future and that’s the

and your own future and that’s the beauty about really providing some

beauty about really providing some

beauty about really providing some access to capital and it is access if

access to capital and it is access if

access to capital and it is access if you provide food it will go nowhere if

you provide food it will go nowhere if

you provide food it will go nowhere if you provide books it will go nowhere you

you provide books it will go nowhere you

you provide books it will go nowhere you need to provide capital in order to

need to provide capital in order to

need to provide capital in order to really develop individuals and they are

really develop individuals and they are

really develop individuals and they are looking for it I want to give you an

looking for it I want to give you an

looking for it I want to give you an example from investment perspective

example from investment perspective

example from investment perspective because they’re always two sides on the

because they’re always two sides on the

because they’re always two sides on the one side is the individual being

one side is the individual being

one side is the individual being receiving funding on the other size it’s

receiving funding on the other size it’s

receiving funding on the other size it’s the investor take an example you provide

the investor take an example you provide

the investor take an example you provide 1 million US dollars over a period of

1 million US dollars over a period of

1 million US dollars over a period of five years the average loan now company

five years the average loan now company

five years the average loan now company for the last 16 years is one thousand US

for the last 16 years is one thousand US

for the last 16 years is one thousand US dollars in average the duration of a

dollars in average the duration of a

dollars in average the duration of a loan cycle in average is only 12 months

loan cycle in average is only 12 months

loan cycle in average is only 12 months so loans are being paid back already

so loans are being paid back already

so loans are being paid back already after 12 months you basically provide 1

after 12 months you basically provide 1

after 12 months you basically provide 1 million for 5 years you are going to

million for 5 years you are going to

million for 5 years you are going to reach out to over 55,000 individuals

reach out to over 55,000 individuals

reach out to over 55,000 individuals because you can recycle the money and

because you can recycle the money and

because you can recycle the money and every single loan reaches out to at

every single loan reaches out to at

every single loan reaches out to at least 10 to 15 members and friends

least 10 to 15 members and friends

least 10 to 15 members and friends within the family these are World Bank

within the family these are World Bank

within the family these are World Bank figures so think about that $1,000,000

figures so think about that $1,000,000

figures so think about that $1,000,000 in five years touches and increases the

in five years touches and increases the

in five years touches and increases the life of over 55,000 individuals on the

life of over 55,000 individuals on the

life of over 55,000 individuals on the other side an investor will basically

other side an investor will basically

other side an investor will basically receive returns because there is

receive returns because there is

receive returns because there is interest rate related to the to the loan

interest rate related to the to the loan

interest rate related to the to the loan of the last 16 years we have provided on

of the last 16 years we have provided on

of the last 16 years we have provided on an annual rate 4% return which in the

an annual rate 4% return which in the

an annual rate 4% return which in the current your low yield environment

current your low yield environment

current your low yield environment obviously is also a fantastic investment

obviously is also a fantastic investment

obviously is also a fantastic investment but that’s not the cause but it just

but that’s not the cause but it just

but that’s not the cause but it just shows you it’s a business

shows you it’s a business

shows you it’s a business over 16 years the default rate with 30

over 16 years the default rate with 30

over 16 years the default rate with 30 million loans has been lower than 1%

million loans has been lower than 1%

million loans has been lower than 1% which is absolutely astonishing this is

which is absolutely astonishing this is

which is absolutely astonishing this is lower then you know any bank would give

lower then you know any bank would give

lower then you know any bank would give you figures here in Western Europe the

you figures here in Western Europe the

you figures here in Western Europe the reason why the default rate is so low it

reason why the default rate is so low it

reason why the default rate is so low it is all related to pride and dignity if

is all related to pride and dignity if

is all related to pride and dignity if you are individual and you get a

you are individual and you get a

you are individual and you get a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get

once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get

once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get access to capital

access to capital

access to capital you will make everything happen to repay

you will make everything happen to repay

you will make everything happen to repay that loan so you’re going to invest it

that loan so you’re going to invest it

that loan so you’re going to invest it in whatever cause you have been granted

in whatever cause you have been granted

in whatever cause you have been granted the money for

the money for

the money for and lastly obviously you also have got a

and lastly obviously you also have got a

and lastly obviously you also have got a substantial environmental impact we call

substantial environmental impact we call

substantial environmental impact we call these three factors we call them triple

these three factors we call them triple

these three factors we call them triple bottom line impact who is actually the

bottom line impact who is actually the

bottom line impact who is actually the recipient of the money women play

recipient of the money women play

recipient of the money women play important role in providing micro loans

important role in providing micro loans

important role in providing micro loans the overall average is roughly sixty

the overall average is roughly sixty

the overall average is roughly sixty percent and I want to run you one

percent and I want to run you one

percent and I want to run you one example here we made a lot of research

example here we made a lot of research

example here we made a lot of research if you have got a male and a female and

if you have got a male and a female and

if you have got a male and a female and both are coming from the similar

both are coming from the similar

both are coming from the similar background and both of them would be

background and both of them would be

background and both of them would be granted $1,000 what is happening in most

granted $1,000 what is happening in most

granted $1,000 what is happening in most of the cases the recipient is going to

of the cases the recipient is going to

of the cases the recipient is going to be approached by a friend by a colleague

be approached by a friend by a colleague

be approached by a friend by a colleague and he would ask me if you’d be willing

and he would ask me if you’d be willing

and he would ask me if you’d be willing to provide some of this of this loan in

to provide some of this of this loan in

to provide some of this of this loan in order to double the loan so physically

order to double the loan so physically

order to double the loan so physically what happens the colleague would come

what happens the colleague would come

what happens the colleague would come giving the money I’ll double it by

giving the money I’ll double it by

giving the money I’ll double it by tomorrow now research shows that the

tomorrow now research shows that the

tomorrow now research shows that the women the female would be responsive in

women the female would be responsive in

women the female would be responsive in 3 percent of the cases and the male

3 percent of the cases and the male

3 percent of the cases and the male believe it or not will be responsive in

believe it or not will be responsive in

believe it or not will be responsive in about 27 percent of the cases which is

about 27 percent of the cases which is

about 27 percent of the cases which is totally mind-blowing and it’s all over

totally mind-blowing and it’s all over

totally mind-blowing and it’s all over the world to save picture it’s the same

the world to save picture it’s the same

the world to save picture it’s the same picture as well in here something you

picture as well in here something you

picture as well in here something you might want to think about on the weekend

might want to think about on the weekend

might want to think about on the weekend that’s the reason why women have a very

that’s the reason why women have a very

that’s the reason why women have a very different risk understanding than men

different risk understanding than men

different risk understanding than men have the cause remains the same also the

have the cause remains the same also the

have the cause remains the same also the man was to protect and wants to help his

man was to protect and wants to help his

man was to protect and wants to help his children but he’s got a different way of

children but he’s got a different way of

children but he’s got a different way of looking at risks there are several

looking at risks there are several

looking at risks there are several active

active

active is beside microfinance where you can

is beside microfinance where you can

is beside microfinance where you can basically help and improve it’s about

basically help and improve it’s about

basically help and improve it’s about renewable energy it’s about education

renewable energy it’s about education

renewable energy it’s about education it’s about providing insurance coverage

it’s about providing insurance coverage

it’s about providing insurance coverage you can empower women

you can empower women

you can empower women so microfinance has developed into all

so microfinance has developed into all

so microfinance has developed into all kinds of different topics and areas and

kinds of different topics and areas and

kinds of different topics and areas and is today you wouldn’t believe it it’s

is today you wouldn’t believe it it’s

is today you wouldn’t believe it it’s the fastest-growing asset class in the

the fastest-growing asset class in the

the fastest-growing asset class in the world the growth rate is about 30 to 40

world the growth rate is about 30 to 40

world the growth rate is about 30 to 40 percent and that’s beautiful because the

percent and that’s beautiful because the

percent and that’s beautiful because the money being pumped into the system is

money being pumped into the system is

money being pumped into the system is really helping and is reducing poverty

really helping and is reducing poverty

really helping and is reducing poverty dramatically that’s the last picture I

dramatically that’s the last picture I

dramatically that’s the last picture I want to show you I came back five days

want to show you I came back five days

want to show you I came back five days ago from Cambodia and this is all NASA

ago from Cambodia and this is all NASA

ago from Cambodia and this is all NASA we have been knowing her for several

we have been knowing her for several

we have been knowing her for several years when I met her first she was

years when I met her first she was

years when I met her first she was really a beggar she’s living at two

really a beggar she’s living at two

really a beggar she’s living at two hours out of seeum rep in agricultural

hours out of seeum rep in agricultural

hours out of seeum rep in agricultural area and she had nothing she asked for

area and she had nothing she asked for

area and she had nothing she asked for loan for $50 to buy a couple of hens

loan for $50 to buy a couple of hens

loan for $50 to buy a couple of hens because she wanted to sell out the eggs

because she wanted to sell out the eggs

because she wanted to sell out the eggs in the neighborhood so she was given the

in the neighborhood so she was given the

in the neighborhood so she was given the first $50 together with a one-day

first $50 together with a one-day

first $50 together with a one-day training session on some basic

training session on some basic

training session on some basic accounting standards just that she would

accounting standards just that she would

accounting standards just that she would know and understand what is a margin and

know and understand what is a margin and

know and understand what is a margin and what is the price of an egg she’s going

what is the price of an egg she’s going

what is the price of an egg she’s going to ask for now shree loans are cycles

to ask for now shree loans are cycles

to ask for now shree loans are cycles later on she basically has opened a

later on she basically has opened a

later on she basically has opened a total new world

total new world

total new world she has employed her entire family her

she has employed her entire family her

she has employed her entire family her friends are working for her it’s a small

friends are working for her it’s a small

friends are working for her it’s a small and mid-sized company with over 15

and mid-sized company with over 15

and mid-sized company with over 15 people working for her in the back you

people working for her in the back you

people working for her in the back you see a couple of hands and docks it’s

see a couple of hands and docks it’s

see a couple of hands and docks it’s difficult to see she’s got two and a

difficult to see she’s got two and a

difficult to see she’s got two and a half thousand ducks and I think about

half thousand ducks and I think about

half thousand ducks and I think about 8,000 hens and anybody of you who

8,000 hens and anybody of you who

8,000 hens and anybody of you who potentially you know will be somewhere

potentially you know will be somewhere

potentially you know will be somewhere in a hotel close to siem rep and have a

in a hotel close to siem rep and have a

in a hotel close to siem rep and have a breakfast egg that is most likely going

breakfast egg that is most likely going

breakfast egg that is most likely going to be come from her form and the amazing

to be come from her form and the amazing

to be come from her form and the amazing thing is

and the amazing thing is she’s making

and the amazing thing is she’s making profits on a monthly basis of over one

profits on a monthly basis of over one

profits on a monthly basis of over one thousand US dollars today and the

thousand US dollars today and the

thousand US dollars today and the average income in Cambodia today per

average income in Cambodia today per

average income in Cambodia today per month is $80

month is $80

month is $80 she has become one of the most my I

she has become one of the most my I

she has become one of the most my I wouldn’t call it wealthiest but

wouldn’t call it wealthiest but

wouldn’t call it wealthiest but successful businesswomen in the area and

successful businesswomen in the area and

successful businesswomen in the area and now she’s starting to help she’s

now she’s starting to help she’s

now she’s starting to help she’s starting to employ other people so it’s

starting to employ other people so it’s

starting to employ other people so it’s very small money initially but the

very small money initially but the

very small money initially but the impact is phenomenal

impact is phenomenal

impact is phenomenal and I would all like to ask you to

and I would all like to ask you to

and I would all like to ask you to participate in helping to include

participate in helping to include

participate in helping to include excluded the 2.3 billion colleagues and

excluded the 2.3 billion colleagues and

excluded the 2.3 billion colleagues and friends and families out there they want

friends and families out there they want

friends and families out there they want to be part of our system we can all help

to be part of our system we can all help

to be part of our system we can all help we can help with very small money the

we can help with very small money the

we can help with very small money the impact is phenomenal thank you very much

impact is phenomenal thank you very much

impact is phenomenal thank you very much [Applause]

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